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Do you ever interact with others while at the gym?
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>>77110343
Obviously. Machines aren't always available.
But generally, I avoid machines women are using. I don’t like asking them to switch.
I did few times and they looked at me bad way, I hate that look. My mother used to look at me like that when she was mad at me. Hate that feeling.
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>>77110353
Ive been going to the gym for over 20 years and im socially autistic and i dont ever find myself in cringe situations, people dont really talk at the gym but if they do theyre generally an extremely highly social person that will carry the convo for you anyway
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>>77110343
I once went over to the squat rack, took off and loaded plates and started warming up, a really pretty chick walked up to me and said something but I couldnt hear her because I had 1 earphone in, so I just smiled and nodded at her and quickly started squatting. She was still saying something but I couldnt hear so I panicked and mid squat said something like "yeah squattings my favourite, big weights you know how it is", I thought she was trying strike up a convo about my workout.
I did a set, noticed her bottle that had been lying at the base of the squat rack since I started.
She was trying to tell me she was using it and I had racked her plates
I entered pure autismo and, while still resting the bar on my shoulders, tried asking her how many sets she had left, I stuttered bad and she didnt hear what I said. I didnt say anything else just racked the bar and immediately got my bag and left the gym
Driving home I realised I left my towel hanging on the squat rack
She was a proper bombshell, that shit made me start going at 6 in the morning instead of evenings just to avoid any chances of seeing her again
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>>77110548
you forgot to mention the spaghetti
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>>77110355
Fuck them, just ask them if you can take turns, you've got a routine to follow anyways.
80% gives the stink eye, no idea why, it's not like I'm hitting on them.
Those who don't mind, usually turn out to be super friendly, admiring me moving the pin super low even though im a dyel kek. Gives me a nice lil confidence boost
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Yes, because I'm, surprisingly, not an autistic retard who isn't afraid of social interaction.
I would say being social at the gym has helped me with that, too.
As before I started training I was very socially inept and had a fear of speaking to people.
If I see a girl looking at me, I'll give a smile. If they return it, on a later date I'll say hello and ask how they are.
The same with anyone at the gym, typically.
I live in a fairly small town, too. Where almost everyone is connected in some weird way directly or indirectly.
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>>77110343
yes, but not too much. im there to lift, not to exchange pleasantries. never with women because i have a gf
>>77110422
post nose
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there's a few dudes I nod, fistbump, say hey to too. some cute girls that get smiles or stares. I'm not super social tho and I don't hang out around the gym
>>77110343
it's insane this is like an 8/10 asian. they really just aren't that attractive outside of being thin. seeing dudes fawn over kpop girls that are 10/10 asians but are really like 7-8 compared to white college girls is nuts.
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>>77111008
They’re honestly just a lot nicer and easier to both fuck and date. What I mean by that is there tends to be way less deranged hurdles they put up compared to white chicks these days, its like dating in the 90s or 00s. I find them attractive, they find me attractive so we talk then go out. There’s way less schizophrenic mindgames and bpd spergouts from them over you texting back 10 seconds too early. The mindgames with asian women come after they’ve got you locked in, but that’s a different topic entirely and frankly every race’s women try to put your balls in their purse in LTRs.
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>>77110548
>towel plot twist
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>>77110548
Man, she shouldn't have been camping on equipment she wasn't using if she wanted to get upset that someone else did want to use it. Maybe she didn't, you don't even know. How were you supposed to know it secretly belonged to her just because someone left trash in front of it.
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>>77110343
What would you rate this /fit/?
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>>77110343
No. No real point. If I know some one I'll say hello, maybe ask if someone is going to be a while, or bitch to the staff about that one machine they never fix. Bro I'll bring in my own tools but it needs to be fixed.
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I have blown it with two cute girls at my gym. they both were receptive and at some point it went astray, I was in the middle of my set though and the bitch left because I kept trying to finish my work out
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I am ugly as hell, strike the meanest face possible, and stare down anyone who tries to come close but for some GODDAMN REASON people won't stop approaching me.
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>>77112121
Same haha, I'm super ugly and short, and also fat, but women keep coming up to me and asking for my number. I tell them to fuck off in my high-pitched voice, but the insist and tell me they want to sleep with me. Bros, how do I get them to leave me alone? I even try stinkmaxxing, but it doesn't help.
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>>77110360
why is it that people are either
>so awkward they can not talk to you and avoid eye contact
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>those that actually give you enough to have a conversation literally will not shut the fuck up and let you get a word in
Where are the normal conversationoids
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>>77110343
not in the gym but in the swimming pool. Iam doing my laps. Take a small break at the wall. Chick 2 lanes further swims up to me. "your freestyle is so effortless and you are not even out of breath can you give me any tips" I notice that she doesnt even have goggles. Scold her about it. Tell her how does she even want to free style without goggles go on and on about posture. tell her about wearing a swimsuit instead of a bikini. I could visibly see how her smile turns into disgust and remorse. She just nods wants to end the convo as quickly as possible. She says thanks and never talk to me again that day. Took me a week to realise she was flirting. Have played this convo in my head probably a 100 times since then, Still dont know what a propper response should be. How the fuck do you wanna swimm without goggles...
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Does saying "you too" to the front desk people when they say "have a good workout" count as interacting?
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>>77113274
>Still don't know what a propper response should be
Along the lines of
>Come down to the water
>I'll be your teacher for the basics
>let's stay in contact so that I can help you become as good as me
>What's your phone number?
Forget her, you'll find someone else, just learn from your past, plenty of fish in the swimmming pools, anon.
What you can learn from this story is to be understandable of novices.
>How the fuck do you wanna swimm without goggles...
Because she didn't know how to swim
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>doing rows
>girl comes up and asks if i can give her a hand with putting back her plates from hip thrust because of a stiff/sensitive hand from an injury
>friend later gives me shit say that was my hint for me to make a movie
>i simply viewed it as me convenient as one of three other people around
Sometimes I can't make heads or tails over whether other people are being coombrained freaks or I'm some autist
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>>77113274
Dont worry my dear lil anon, a hoe that doesn't wear goggles is not worthy of you
Nah but realisticly, if she really wanted to talk to you she wouldnt have ended the convo after the advice you gave her, unless you had a bitchy tone while talking to her
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>>77113558
>I think one girl smiled at me the other week
Incel here who only fucked 8 women at 33, when a girl smiles at you means she is flirting? Because i heard when a woman has a crush on you she will give you a hard time because she doesn't want to feel rejected.
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>>77110343
>lose weight
>put on a lot of muscle
>able to carry a conversation with a face that doesn't look bad
>still seem to get zero attention from women i'm actually interested in IRL
>can't get any good matches on dating apps
I didn't get fit for women, but I thought women would at least come with getting fit. I feel like such a broken person.
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Alright boys I need some opinions
>girl from the gym with big tits and decent looks but a bit thicc
>she comes up beside me on the treadmill one day
>tells me "I am not creeping on you there is better air flow here"
>I laugh and tell her its all good
>about 2 months late
>I am benching 2 plate for reps
>on my last set this same girl come up and says "good job" and smiles
>I smile and say thanks
>she says "I can't even squat that much"
>I just smile and don't know what to say
Does this girl like me? Is this girl just an extravert and I am just projecting her liking me? Did I fuck everything up by not being able to think of more to say to her in our brief interactions? Should I talk to her tomorrow? (she is in the gym almost every day when I am)
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>>77113886
The thing is that if I embarrass myself I worry that it could become a source of friction for me going to the gym. I know if I fuck up then I will absolutely dread the prospect of going back and seeing her at the gym again
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>>77110343
I get in and get out.
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Yep
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>>77113573
>I didn't get fit for women, but I thought women would at least come with getting fit
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>>77110343
I stare at the ground or wall and avoid eye contact and people still talk to me sometimes. I'm mostly polite about it, 3 dudes regularly say hi or fist bump me and random guys and girls will occasionally compliment my lift/strength
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Yea I say hi to guy friends. I don't bother hitting on girls though. Even the ones who are obviously showing interest.
People are there to work on themselves. If you try to force it with girls it's a turnoff. Better to just be a nonchalant dudes and focus on your own physique.
Once your physique is good enough they will literally throw themselves at you. Or not. Doesn't really matter though, you're there to get jacked not to get laid
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Looksmaxxed autist here, many times girls will now approach me and try set up dates
Ive had it happen twice just at the gym
> girl from the gym left her phone # in my cubby with my stuff.
>We texted and both liked similar music and went to a music show together (SeeYouSpaceCowboy) , the show was fun but we didnt really talk to each other just kinda stood in the same area, the week after that we went out for coffee and I was so anxious and didnt know what to say ever, we didnt go out again after that and I started going to the gym at a different time, when I would see her we were still polite but it was just awk
Im not bragging before somebody accuses me, i am diagnosed aspie and once I start speaking wpmen look confused at first then repulsed soon after
I can literally see it on their faces when they talk to me from a flirty smirk and squinted eyes at first to a sideways concerned glance, eventually that looks becomes one of repulsion as if they smelt something bad.
Im not even retarded, im functioning but my voice is SO fucking monotone, I stim because i dont know what to do with my hands, I have weird overly stiff body language, everybody treats me like a literal retard
No gym for my life lmao
......pt2 INCOMING
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>>77110548
people that try and talk to people with ear phones in are the retarded ones
especially if they are working out or jogging with a dog leash in their hands with their phones in their pockets - it's hard to scramble to pause and listen to them - and its NEVER really important, anyways
if she ever gives you shit for that, just ask her why she thought you would be able to respond competently when listening to something with your hands full
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>>77114305
>My guy do you not go out places? Do you not see pussy everywhere every single day? Why are you focusing on this one chick?
do YOU not go outside? the reason guys fixate on a girl like that is because its extremely rare for a guy to receive a compliment or any attention at all from women and when they do they usually think about it for days, weeks, years afterwards.
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>>77113822
>>girl from the gym with big tits and decent looks but a bit thicc
>>she comes up beside me on the treadmill one day
>>tells me "I am not creeping on you there is better air flow here"
damn dude you fucked up. you should have said
>haha well i think the air flow would be better if you were running in front of me so i could smell the air flow coming off of you
that would have been your way to tell if she likes you or not
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No. I don't interact with anyone anywhere. I mainly just look at the ground and have a frown on my face everywhere I go as I always live with the thoughts of being a compete loser in my mid 30s. I wish I could interact with people at the gym, or on the train, or at a workplace, or just out in public. But everyone I come into contact with I can just tell how they are all happier, friendlier, richer, more successful, and more attractive than I am, so there's no point in speaking to them because I offer nothing. They don't deserve to have a cretin speaking to them.
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>>77112101
I share your sensibility in small part. I think the gym is a very very poor replacement for bars in terms of meeting people.
But all is fair in love and war. You can approach women at funerals and get that grief pussy if you want.
I once got some grief pussy and that shit was crazy. She started crying right after I nutted in her belly button.
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Just b yurself
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>>77113274
the more i read these stories the more i realize how much more important "game" is than lifting; instead of answering her directly, make the conversation fun, women love that shit
anon here >>77113353 has the right idea, especially with the "I'll be your teacher" line to get an excuse to touch her without it being fucking weird
lifting is great but my guess is that there's a lot of guys wasting their time lifting when they should be socializing and talking to girls instead
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>>77116243
>he more i read these stories the more i realize how much more important "game" is than lifting
>have attractive genes
>dress well
>lift
>get game
>have no chance with similarly attractive females because you can't possibly be single unless you're deranged
Can't win.
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idk man, i knew an ugly brown manlet (5'4) who legit just walked up to girls and started rizzing them up, literally no fear, just talks to any girl he wants
dude lives in his car, addicted to cigarettes, and has this weird sort-of pimp laugh (almost exactly like A Pimp Named Slickback), yet he gets more pussy than me because he literally just walks up to chicks and starts to talk to them
i realized that all this "looks" stuff is just cope and an excuse to not do the actual hard part which is legit just approaching and talking to girls; fit and attractiveness helps but if you're not talking to women, they're useless
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>Enter gym
>Do air drumming between pull ups and bench press sets while looking at the floor
>Do 1h30m of boxing while moving like an autist and hitting the bag so hard you can hear it throughout the whole gym (bathroom hallway next to the sandbags, people constantly looking my way on the way there)
>35min of interval running like a spaz while mouthing lyrics
>Avoid eye contact the entire time
>Leave
>Rinse and repeat
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Since we’re sharing girl interactions at the gym;
>laser focused doing bicep curls
>cute zoomete working out next to me
>after a set I suddenly feel a tap on the shoulder
>the girl says hi and wants to ask me something
>uh sure
>she ask me when did I graduate high school?
>sternly tell her 2015
>she says oh wow you look way younger
>haha thanks
>put the weights back in the rack
>still had 2 sets left
>leave gym in a small panic
it’s unironically over for me
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Oh you niggas losing it over some bitches doing some small talk with you?
>Workplace
>Part time chick act too much like a princess, not that intrested
>Slowly she starts growing on me she has some worthwhile traits
>She gets close to me, like putting her breasts on me when she has to explain stuff, making flirty small talk "theres something on my butt, anon?" anon we're there's only couples here we can't be the two singles here
>First free day i have slide on her dm's and ask her out
>Sorry anon i'm just open that way i already have a bf
>Realized i've been played because i didn't gave her the attention others were giving to her
>Been an year now, still in my head, always spooked to encounter her again, self worth so low i might just put a tombstone there
What the hell bros i guess that oneitis has to hit us soon or later but this way it's fucking brutal, i can't trust no hoe no more i swear all i can do is lift and pursue my hobbies i swear to god i can't understand women no more, i tend to get attentions but this one wounded me too hard, i don't feel like trying no more.
On the other hand i'm working on some career gains rn, all i'm striving for is to find a quiet headspace where i can stay chill, but goddamn i'm fukking hurt still.
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I work out at night so there aren't many people around by the time I'm there. There's one guy I see fairly often. I started off just friendly nodding to him, he did the same then went off to my workout. After a while we started talking a bit more. I must've been grunting too loud or something without realising cos I finished a set one time and I look over to see him looking back at me, smiling and nodding approvingly. Now its progressed to the point where after every set, we're looking over at each other after each workout, shouting encouragement. Probably seems a bit gay but honestly it's done wonders for my motivation and keeps me encouraged.
Getting a mirror for my homegym was the best purchase I ever made
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idk if this is the place to post it, but my gym bully made me smell his ballsack in the locker room. after that he went into the shower and started moaning, i think he was jerking off and is actually gay. it was all so sudden, he just grabbed my hair and pulled me down into his balls and said "take a wiff" and then moaned a bit
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>>77113822
You should have told her "what are you talking about, there's an AC vent 5 machines down, go over there for airflow"
She would appreciate the earnest and thoughtful advice.
>>77114249
Anon what the fuck have you done.
You've traumatized the girl so much she can't even leave the house after being kidnapped. Her parents and boyfriend are wondering where the fuck she disappeared to 4 years ago and the police consider it a cold case but there's still time for you to let her go.
You weren't supposed to actually listen to Alex Jones' "the girls are free at the gym you can just go pick one up".
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>>77110345
>Sometimes I nod my head and shake hands with some people I know but NEVER EVER women
It's autistic but also genuinely funny if you seem slightly foreign and politely say hello and shake hands with the male regulars but completely ignore the women. If even you're a beta they don't like, it WILL annoy them you dare to be friendly to the men and not simp over them.
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>>77110548
>She was a proper bombshell, that shit made me start going at 6 in the morning instead of evenings just to avoid any chances of seeing her again
Bro you should always have a camoflauge plan in place if shit like this happens. Like a bench you can dive under, or a pillar to dart behind, or worst case kneel down and throw a towel over your head. Use video games for more ideas. You need to immediately disappear from sight.
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>met my first gf at gym sauna then i was 17
>Met my second gf at 21 also at the same gym sauna(both my ex's became friends later)
>Now I'm scared to talk to women at my gym because there's is 90% chance the will put me in "creepy guy at the gym" video on the tik-tok
>Didn't have a gf since 2022
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>>77110343
MY SONS ARE ABOUT HIS AGE. GOOD LOOKING KIDS WHO ARE FIT. THEY DESPISE ASIAN CHICKS. DON'T KNOW WHY. NO MATER HOW HOT THEY ARE THEY JUST DON'T FLIRT BACK. THEY LIKE WHITER THAN WHITE GIRLS. "STACEYS" THEY ARE CALLED. WON'T EVEN LOOK AT NON WHITES ALL WHILE PRETENDING THEY AREN'T RACIST.
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HE'S PROBABLY VERY RACIST . WANTS TO BE LEFT ALONE. HAS A GF AT HOME. CAN'T STAND CHINKS ANDTHE WEEBS WHO LOVE THESE FUCKING WEIRDOS. PLAYS HOCKEY ON FRiday nights with all white guys and one indian token friend.
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>>77116978
>go back and not give a fuck, thats the chad move. she might respect you more if she sees you around and youre not some coward ducking down.
I changed gyms a month ago because I was flirting with the new gym qt receptionist for like 2 weeks and she was responding positively and when I got her instagram she didn’t accept my follow and I haven’t back since. The good news is that I made huge gains in the new gym
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>>77113274
>Still dont know what a propper response should be.
You tell her she should have goggles, give your pair and say she should swim 2 laps to check out how much of a difference it makes, you will stay here and watch for any mistakes you can. You then point out one obvious mistake you spotted, like head not being down. She should then start talking about it making a difference or whatever, doesn't really matter what her response is, what matters is you say that you can't really spot any more mistakes without having goggles on and watching closer by swimming behind and that you could meet up sometime for that. Congrats, you scored a date. If things go well, you escalate that one into a coffee or whatever else.
The girl gave you a clear "I want to interact with you" signal. Your job is to find a plausible excuse to interact with her more.
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Two people were waiting for squat racks today while they were full but stood at different sides of the area. I started to leave when they both tried to take my open area. They started arguing and looked at me and I just shrugged and walked away. Is that an interaction?
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I thought I was pretty good at acknowledging people as they nod or say hi at the gym (back when I went; homegym now). But my GF at the time informed me that I get super locked in and ignore a shitload of people, and I didn't even wear headphones/earphones. Whoops.
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>>77113822
>tells me "I am not creeping on you there is better air flow here"
The proper response here would've been "it's okay I don't mind if you creep on me" said in a cheeky tone. You gotta understand that women, especially hot women, usually never have to explain shit about anything, so when it's the girl who goes out of their way to say they're not creeping, you know you have her attention. Do what I did and use the autism to learn how to pick up on hints of the good kind.
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>>77110548
I would laugh at you if this wasn't something that could totally happen to me one day. Sadly, you can't outlift bad social skills and autism.
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>>77112942
This lmao. There are always like one or two girls in the gym that I frequently make accidental eye-contact with and I can see they are looking at me more than I am at them and I can't shake the thought off of me that they are just judging me or talking shit about me to their friends.
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>>77113274
Anons are laughing, but honestly if a woman can't handle you sperging out early on then you'll quickly begin to hate her. I once started talking about Philopoemen to a girl one day and she hung in there for every autistic word. It was great.
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I would have an easier time jumping out of a plane than attempting to flirt. I literally cannot imagine that a woman could have any attraction or any positive emotions towards me, and I'm not joking. 26 years old by the way.
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>>77116268
feeling physically attractive can boost your confidence and this should help your game too, but of course some guys can't shake off their insecurity even when they are fit and effay so they shouldn't focus on looks too much
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>be me, khv, white, 37
>go to gym 5 days/week
>decent looking but awkward and introvert
>cute pajeeta at the gym
>actually really pretty face
>a bit too skinny4me but nice boobies
>i actually like her
>we make eye contact now and then but that's about it
>one day on my way to the gym
>crossing the street
>she crosses from the other way
>looks directly at me, smiles and confidently says "Hi!"
>i say nothing
>still see her daily
>no more eye contact
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>>77113274
>Still dont know what a propper response should be.
If you want to talk to her, just go
>sure, I'll show you
and then you swim some laps together while you continue talking. whatever they asked for was just an excuse to spend time with you.
I did that shit plenty of times, kek
>girl back in HS asks if I can burn photos from a party we both went to onto a CD for her
>burn my photos onto a CD in advance and hand it to her when she rings instead of inviting her in (she even showed up in incredibly skimpy clothes, kek)
>girl tells me after the sports club session that her and her friends will go and grab some drinks
>"okay, have fun you guys"
>girl in university asks if I can help her with a homework
>take a picture of my solution and send it to her
I don't really regret any of those though. I was oblivious at that moment, but it also wouldn't really have led anywhere, so it's just funny with hindsight. I have nothing in common with women, whenever I take an opportunity I just end up bored to death and regret it.
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>>77116299
>but I'm into quality over quantity
this is just cope
no one is saying to try and sleep with every single girl you come across, just talk to them, if they're fucking lame or a normie, you just say you have to go and leave, if you find one thats actually fun to talk to then try to go deeper
i get it though, rejection is hard
i got rejected by a girl i didnt even really like and i felt like i had a fever for like three days straight
onto the next
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>>77116714
that's exactly how i fucking feel bro
at work this chick used to come into my office asking the dumbest fucking questions and asking how i was and stupid shit like that
eventually, i give her my number which she accepts but she fucking never texted me (this was months ago)
now this fucking broad doesn't even want to look at me and pretends like fucking nothing ever happened
what the fuck is wrong with these bitches????
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>>77121189
reminds me of this guy lmao
https://youtu.be/sMr1ddukSQ4
he succeeds on the first try and then gives up KEK
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>>77116714
yeah, if you for whatever reason do not give a woman the attention she thinks she deserves, she'll try to make it sexual and make you fall for her. which doesn't mean she'll ever actually do anything with you though.
she just wanted to prove to herself that she can get your attention, and when she did, you dropped you.
you can only go through that cycle so often before it leaves you jaded and refuse to see anything from women as sincere, even when one of them ends up being sincere about it.
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>>77110548
>girl trying to tell you that you took her place
>respond with complete disregard "yeah squattings my favourite, big weights you know how it is""
The irony, is that in your autistic sperg out, you made the most alpha move possible.
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>>77121631
>what the fuck is wrong with these bitches????
you didn't pay attention to them, which put a dent in their ego, so they had to prove to themselves that they can grab it anyway.
once you did, they lost interest because it was more like scratching an itch to them.
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>>77121749
thats my first conclusion
how do you turn it into fucking though? is it even possible or does she immediately decide shes not going to fuck you even before she starts playing this game?
>>77121743
autism was so strong he accidentally spit the hardest game without realizing it and still fumbled it...
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>>77121613
>this is just cope
No, it's wisdom. If I get a 7 today I still don't have what I want and feel like I can get, but now I've involved some poor sap whose life I would fuck up if I found it and they might fuck my life up too. It's like wanting steak eating a loaf of bread instead. Sometimes, single is better.
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>>77121990
>wisdom
LMAO no
how the hell is talking to a girl fucking her life up?
are you a genuine psychopath?
if you're a normal person and you realize you don't like her just tell her its not going to work out or bail
like i said, not every interaction with a female needs to end in sex or in anything much
how the hell are you going to find "the one" if you dont even talk to women??
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>>77122011
I feel like you're just spamming words because someone disagreed with you, and you decided you were right beforehand.
I'm more attractive than you and if I start chatting up mid chicks it's going to lead them on and I *could* get laid, statistically. And what's the fucking point anyway?
>maybe she's friends with a 10
I'm sure she would love that maneuver.
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>>77121572
It worked out actually
IMO some autism is fine, just be unapologetic and comfortable with yourself enough to make the shot however awkward
Thinking that everything needs to be perfect and shutting down if it's not is a bigger problem
Women these days are just as weird half the time
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>>77122020
>spamming words
reading comprehension issue
>you decided you were right beforehand
non-argument, show me where i'm wrong
>I'm more attractive than you
irrelevant
>if I start chatting up mid chicks
then dont chat up mid chicks, chat up women you find attractive, problem solved; how are you struggling with this?
>maybe she's friends with a 10
you just made up that strawman
the point of my whole argument is to go up and talk to women, go ahead and reread what i wrote
in no place at all did i say to talk to ugly women or women you dont find attractive
i said to go approach women
how the fuck are you going to find "the one" if you leave it to chance??
how is this hard to understand?
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>>77114308
>>We texted and both liked similar music and went to a music show together (SeeYouSpaceCowboy) , the show was fun but we didnt really talk to each other just kinda stood in the same area, the week after that we went out for coffee and I was so anxious and didnt know what to say ever, we didnt go out again after that and I started going to the gym at a different time, when I would see her we were still polite but it was just awk
I realize this is probably larping but it's definitely a real phenomenon that's assuredly getting worse in the looksmaxxing era: guys who focus on looks, do in fact look good, but are awkward fucking weirdos who can't maintain a normal conversation for 60 seconds.
Girls absolutely care about looks and it will help you with one-night stands. But girls despise boring... boring being "doesn't cause me to experience emotional highs and lows." Unfortunately that emotional slop is disgusting to me and most men, but that's what gets them going. The fun, outgoing, social guy will do better than the good looking boring guy for *maintaining* relationships.
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>>77122129
>the point of my whole argument is to go up and talk to women, go ahead and reread what i wrote
The first post your dumb ass replied to was about me striking out with two crushes. Not to mention not asking for advice in any way, so chat up your mid chicks and leave me out of it.
>how the fuck are you going to find "the one" if you leave it to chance??
How would you find "the one" if you don't wait for one you really like and just go for the best one in the room you're currently in?
>how is this hard to understand?
Good fucking question.
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>>77111008
Since they all look the same, you're either attracted to that phenotype or you aren't. It's a personal preference thing.
Personally I think East Asians are one of the ugliest races. Good skin is the only thing they got going for them. Notice how Asian chicks with bad skin become automatically capped at 5.
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>>77122668
>They are the only other race than white who can attain beautiful bodies
LMFAO, if black chics have one redeeming quality it's the ability to have hot bodies when they're actually lean. Latinas even more so.
Just because your average black is either chubby or a hampig, average latinas being slightly better, it doesn't mean fit ones won't body mog asian chicks 9 times out of 10.
Face wise white women mog no doubt, although there are some hedious ones out there too.
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>>77113573
Been fat, gotten lean, got fat again and leaning out for good atm. Ive seen both perspectives all too well. There is much to unpack in your post and ill try to make this as simple as possible, truth is very very simple. There is something in that mix that you do that causes you to either not get what you seek or you are straight up denying it to yourself in some this isnt my identety/doing x is beneath me/im better than x sort of way. Lets hear it, what is the one situation that stands out the most in your memory. The one in which you absolutly thought you knew this had to work out in your favour but it didnt ? Also im not knocking you for anything here, my point is that its very easy to tap into some sort of trapped in your own head mode and deny yourself being in the moment which is a pre requisite to make moves to feel to live it... Basicly to get some in any area of life you gotta be vulnerable and make yourself open to vulnerability, you cant try to preemptivly outmanouver taking an L, thats a victory in ego but not in the love departement. Let me know if this is close, do you in any way feel as though there is some overreaching, ultimate standard youre trying to live up to that has a different face attatched to it than yours, sort of along the lines of "being objective" adhering to something yoi heard or once ?
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>>77113822
Why dont you just chad it up and just talk some nonsense ? Who cares if you sound smart or say it all the way right. Dawg, anything you verbally direct at her that matches and or slightly tops her level of "aggression" to you is a signal you can gauge actuall potential with. Like right there the creep shit, you could do some acting, some creative stuff play a role, under the guise of "jokes" say what you really feel or want amd have the plausible deniabillity give you the confidence to just try something like "oooooh i was looking foreward to getting harassed actually" or "oh is that so" woth a slight smug smile looking her in the eyes. Idk man just acknowledge that its cool and that you want pleasant things for yourself be cool if she possibly dont want you like that and take it from there being cool with it either way and just see where you can take it with her. Just engaging in the moment without a plan will get you further than aaaaanything else. I think your problem boils down to you not allowing yourself those nice things.
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>>77116714
Aaaight ima just try to keep it simple because i too have had that happen to me and it took some various different povs for me to understand it
>jobless but on my gym grind
>decide fuck it no more dirty subar jobs i got a whole ass cert and shit
>apply at a jewler
>fuck it this gon take as loooong as it goin take
>write a fucking application for 4h straight
>send it
>mfs tell me no 3 days after
>know what yeah fuck you but thatnks for the signal
My point is you gotta get through the hunger shakes, the pump shakes the this is my first sparring match shakes you dig. Years ago i had this one happen to me
>be 20%bf
>still confident like at 15%
>at the gym regular as fuck again
>ugly chick AND not my type at all at the front desk will not leave me the fuck alone
>bitch injects herself in every fucking convo i have with the regulars
>bitch works me for a month straight and an acquaintance i trusted wrongfully so said i should take her advances
>fine go out thinking you know what since everybody is sayong a safe bet is something i shouldnt miss out on i figured aaaight experience why not
>bitch 30 min into the date flips the script like she the hot one in the i won the breakup sorta way and becomes weird as fuck on purpose
I got played too bro but it aint that deep simply because it speaks volumes of them rather than you, theeese mfs are so absolutly worthless and insecure to themselves that they have to play theese elaborate games just to exist. Its basicly they wanna knock you down a peg/steal or fuck up your mojo so domt take em serious. You either shoot your shot and be cool with whatever its going to be or you leave it all together, i never seen anything good come from anything in between. Your feelings are valid shit sucks and its digusting too, dont beat yourself up because you "fell" for it tho, you needed that combat experience all that happened was that this chick did you a favour and exposed the cracks in your abilities. Focus on the upside for you