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Söy hate is one big meat industry psyop. They have everything to lose with söy since it has amino profile identical to beef, can be made to taste like anything, has no cholesterol or saturated fat, is environmentally sustainable and costs pennies. Not to mention is a single block is like 50g of protein. It's everything good that meat isn't.
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>>77112237
Post physique vegan jeet shills
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How do you fuckers manage to make every single thread about Indians?
I am livid. Tired of hearing about it.
Anyway, love me some miso soup. Shit's so tasty and economical, even with dumplings added in
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>>77112234
>it has amino profile identical to beef
The problem with this statement is that you have absolutely nothing to back it up and the reason for that is that it's a lie.
Maybe next time you start a thread, don't begin with a premise that is so obviously and ridiculously false.
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>>77112234
Youre a by product of this faggot generation. You misunderstand the nature between man and beast, they exist to be used and eaten, the wolf worries not the opinion of the elk. We are 99% pleistocene before the last 80 or so years, you didnt get to say is this vegan? You ate it cause it was sustenance, and if you didn't you starved in the winter.
You can grind up almonds and call it milk you can dye onions red and call it an impossible burger, grow mold shape it like breakfast meat and call it bacon. Its not though it's a cheap imitation, and you need something to equate it to because fungus jerky doesnt sound appealing, and you cocksuckers want everyone to be as miserable as you.
There is no substitute for dairy or meats or all the things that makes a balanced omnivore diet, because youre body has been used to that for hundreds of thousands of years.
Onions is flavorless shit and can be an ingredient next to my chicken broth and meat, but it will always be a side ingredient not the main.
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>>77112234
Yeah if it wasn't for the estrogen inducing shit in it. I mean it can taste pretty good but all the taste comes from spices. I rather eat pork which tastes divine even without spices. More natural too. The organic or better yet organic wild pork is just heavenly. God himself made pigs this delicious. I pity the non-pork people.
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>>77112847
You are not a 'beast'. You are a domesticated human with no connection to the industrially farmed animal that you are eating. You could have a healthy vegatarian diet but you use stupid muh tradition reasons to cope about the fact that fundamentally you do not care about animal abuse if it happens in a factory that is out of sight and staffed by 73 IQ illegal immigrants. At least save yourself the embarrassment of your stupid argument and just admit that you like the taste too much to give it up and that's it
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>>77113093
Sóy is a plant..
>>77112847
stop larping as a neanderthal who hunts his own food with spears, it's embarrassing
>>77112808
you don't have access to to google?
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>>77114127
Ahahaha. Fucking christ what a retard. I didnt call myself a beast, the relationship between man and beast refers to man using animals. Holy christ it's hard to argue against someone who missed the point entirely.
Anyway weak hypocrite. Spoiler alert your phone was derived from materials in the Congo, Canada, etc that required deforestation, the call centers, and electrical plants that had to be built to support it, required massive environmental damage and animal displacement/ death. The housing estate you live in had to lead to the death and displacement of animals, same as the electrical plant to power it. That car you drove today contributed to Global warming which killed countless species. See youre like my faggot brother, who calls himself a veggie then eats gummy worms made of delicious animal collagen . Simply by existing as a human and consuming you kill species every day. When today is over a 1000 kids in India will die of C dif, because someone shit to close to their water supply. If I dont care about those things people dying and neither do you. Then who gives a fuck about the life of a chicken.
>>77114171
Funnily enough im a subsistence farmer. Anyone ever told you when you assume you, look like a dumb cuckold, who got faced.
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>>77114283
You can't blame me for misunderstanding your point about beasts because it was totally incoherent. First you said there was a difference between man and beast, but then you directly compared humans to wolves that 'worry not' about sheep. So I guess if there actually is a difference between man and beast and man is like a wolf then wolves are not beasts?
> If I dont care about those things people dying and neither do you. Then who gives a fuck about the life of a chicken.
So this boils down to all these other bad things happen so you can't blame me for doing more bad things. Do you actually think this is a good argument? If you saw a guy just torturing a horse by whipping it for no reason outside your house would you just not care? It is not that I care so much about the life of a chicken, it is simply that I don't want unnecessary suffering.
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>>77114283
>Anyway weak hypocrite. Spoiler alert your phone was derived from materials in the Congo, Canada, etc that required deforestation, the call centers, and electrical plants that had to be built to support it, required massive environmental damage and animal displacement/ death. The housing estate you live in had to lead to the death and displacement of animals, same as the electrical plant to power it. That car you drove today contributed to Global warming which killed countless species
All of those things apply to humans as well but you wouldn't use "humans dying in construction" as an excuse to factory farm people.
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>>77112234
I replaced one of my meat meals with tofu, about half a year ago.
I eat about 1.5kg tofu per week since then.
I haven't noticed any negative side effects from this, no loss of strength or mass, no estrogenic sides, nothing.
The positives are it's cheap as fuck, and it's easy to prepare compared with meat.
It tastes neutral.
The manospere were lying to me all this time.
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>>77114322
No my point is. That I know 1000 babies are gonna die today, and again tomorrow, cause of choices someone else made. Yet I do nothing cause I dont care. You now know too, and you'll do nothing . So If we dont have that compassion for human suffering, why have it for animals? Your fellow man suffers everyday, why do animals matter? Im asking legitimately without malice.
>>77114334
I legitimately dont follow what youre saying. Human suffering is not the same as animal suffering. You contribute to the deforestation because you buy the products, animals just live in the wake of that. If your house starts flooding because of global warming youll move a polar bear cant. Animals dont contribute to your destruction on a widespread scale, we do to animals. They are the victims because you want a cellphone, so if Ill kill the polar bears who gives a shit about a chicken who wouldn't exist at all unless I was hungry. Also thats where youre wrong buster. Just like yourself likely, I hate people, most people I know are not better than cattle, wagies, working in a box all day, cobbling their wooden nickels, and going back to their other box. If it came down to it, id 100% eat people. Do you really care about your fellow man that much.
>>77114337
Yawn. You do get venom, because there's nothing more pathetic than someone who offers no opinion, but criticizes others. At least these other gentleman had the intellect to provide a stance.
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>>77114381
I think that we both care about 1000 babies dying and we would do something about it if there was something that we could concretely do. The world is just so complicated that it is easy to ignore this stuff, but if 1000 babies were in front of us I bet we would do our best to stop some psycho from torturing them. Tell me, what I could actually do to stop 1000 babies dying today? I do my best to not buy things frivolously. Things like my computer, I admit, have contributed to suffering, but I realistically cannot live without it because I need it for my job. Skipping meat is a very easy choice for me to make that has no impact on my health, and allows me to contribute less to an industry that causes a lot of suffering for no reason
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>>77114381
>I hate people, most people I know are not better than cattle, wagies, working in a box all day, cobbling their wooden nickels, and going back to their other box. If it came down to it, id 100% eat people.
ok kinda based
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>>77114406
So it's actually very preventable. 1 in 4 people have toilets in India. The rest believe in the Brahmin tradition, where I shit you not a witch gets you if you shit anywhere but beneath the stars. Thats why most Indians shit outside, and thats why those babies die, because they shit too close to their water supply. The truth is if I could stop those 1000 indian children a day dying, I wouldnt because there is already 1.4 billion of them, and that number is increasing. In my life time we went from high 6 billion to 8, and that is a problem resource wise. It's like id like to cure cancer, but its the only thing still culling us.
Im sure you do your part, and I did come on strong, shouldn't have implied youre weak or called names, but what im saying is everything we do wrecks shit, and its hard to care about chickens.
For example I always thought being a pescatarian was more environmentally responsible. However after the new Attenborough documentary, we've already overfished 90% of the world, those trawlers nets to catch fish indiscrimately also catch squid, sharks, etc who just suffocate on the deck , and we're actually stealing krill from whales to give to our dogs.
We fucking suck as a species, everything we do is selfish. So its easier for me to not care about an animal bred to be slaughtered vs these poor fucks in the ocean who were born free.
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>>77114171
>you don't have access to to google?
Wow, thank you for showing me the evidence for your outrageous claims. You sure owned me, conclusively proving that beef has an identical amino acid profile to ꜱoy. I feel so foolish.
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I should stock up a fridge of tofu ready to eat.
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>>77112892
>he fell for it
imagine getting filtered in 2026 kek. he got desu'd and onion'd
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>>77112808
>Tofu is a highly nutritious, plant-based protein, providing all essential amino acids with roughly 17–22g of protein, 180 calories, and 11g of healthy fat per half-cup of firm tofu. It is exceptionally rich in calcium, manganese, iron, and selenium. As a versatile, cholesterol-free food, it supports heart health and bone health, particularly for vegetarian diets
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>>77112294
>all these jeet replies
Ive only seen fecaloids drink cow piss and eat cow shit, but never cow milk.
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>>77114127
>you are born with no previous wiring, genes and instincts! You inherited nothing from your ancestors who lived a certain way for 100.000+ years!
Do you think that you in your pathetic 25 years of living will overwrite everything your body needs to function properly?
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>>77114171
>Google said it so it must be true.
Google also says a man can become a woman and race isn't real.
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based thread, I love my holy seed slime sludge slop saars
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>>77115604
For a moment there, I looked at their faces and forgot about the ball of slop, about them being jeets and jeets being disgusting. I saw working men, poor men, meeting together to eat food, to give their bodies strength to keep on going. I felt empathetic, like we weren't so different, after all. I can't bring myself to hate men for sharing bread. Then he started pouring the green liquid and I was immediately reminded of what I was watching.
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>>77112234
>is environmentally sustainable
Do you realize how many acres of rainforest have been cut down just to grow some beans for tofu?
>50g
Likelihood is that 40g of that is just crude nitrogen. Most of the time protein quantities in food are measured by testing for nitrogen. Just like the old tests where adequacy of protein intake was determined by "nitrogen balance." Except the testing can't distinguish between real protein and crude nitrogen.
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>>77115756
I don't see it as a mest substitute. I see it as garbage that doesn't even qualify as real food. My question to you is why would you ever eat it if you have better and healthier options like meat? Even sourdough bread would be better than tofu.
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>>77112234
I don’t hate tofu, but nothing about it seems worth it. I know you guys argue it’s cheap, but you’d have to eat a whole pack just to get 28g protein.
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>>77115913
>My question to you is why would you ever eat it if you have better and healthier options like meat?
Because hyper-optimization and utilitarianism in regards to dietary behavior is a sign of mental illness.
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>Some people like to eat feces therefore it is a valid diet
You're using the same logic to defend sõy. Just because you can consume it doesn't mean anyone should. Your logic can also justify literally any insane behavior imaginable, up to and including chopping off your own genitals.
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>hyper-optimization
Imagine thinking that buying meat instead of sõy is "hyper-optimization." I spend zero time thinking about which one to buy. I simply go to my local farmer and buy meat.
>utilitarianism
You mean consuming healthy food? You're the one spending so much mental energy on this subject. I simply buy and eat meat because it's nutritious and delicious, and I don't buy or eat onions because it's disgusting and nutrient deficient. You have to twist your mind into several interweaving spirals to think that I'm the one who's overthinking anything. Onions is for gay homofaggots.
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>>77114381
>I legitimately dont follow what youre saying.
Are you stupid? It's pretty simple to understand.
>Humans die as a result of society through construction, traffic, climate change, ect
>Animals die as a result of society through construction, traffic, climate change, ect
>"no it is wrong to murder humans for food"
>"Yes it is okay to murder animals for food because they will die anyway due to society"
>f it came down to it, id 100% eat people. Do you really care about your fellow man that much
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>>77116404
Thanks for proving my point. I appreciate it. The fact that you're getting so emotional and using vitriolic language and euphemisms when talking about ꜱoy reveals you have some deep-seated bias for whatever reason against a traditional food, shown to have a myriad of health benefits, consumed by people for centuries.
Have a great day, the discussion is over.
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>Thanks for proving my point
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>are you Pythagorean o algo?
Is this zoomerspeak? I have no idea what that means.
>It's a fucking bean, what's your problem with it
Basedbeans are not real food. They provide no value to your diet and in fact have been proven to be detrimental due to the isoflavones and glyphosate. They are both estrogenizing you and poisoning you and provide little to no nutritional value. So again I ask: why should anyone consume basedbeans instead of meat or eggs or fruit? Why would you willingly eat something that is poisonous, hormonally disruptive, and nutritionally deficient when you have access to something that is healthy and nutritious? Furthermore, why would you be promoting such toxic food to other people?
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>incomplete protein
50% recommended serving of 2 amino acids per serving of two amino acids abundant in rice and wheat, literal nonissue unless you exclusively eat ꜱoybean
>estrogenizing
They contain a phytoestrogen which binds 100x less to estrogen receptors and activate them 1000x less. They block up estrogen receptors and provide basically no signal in high concentrations - they're SERMs. Of course, it doesn't matter because you'd have to eat 45000kcal of ꜱoybean every day to receive an active dose.
It's perfectly okay to not like the way something tastes though! I'm not a big fan of lentils, but larger beans are okay.
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>>77112847
>fungus jerky
kekked
10/10 post and correct on all counts
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>>77114322
>You can't blame me for misunderstanding your point about beasts because it was totally incoherent
He absolutely can because he literally said "the relationship between man and beast," clearly suggesting that they are two separate categories. So the fact that you interpreted that as "man is a beast" means you are either ESL or retarded or possibly both. I would expect nothing less from a cholesterol-deficient vegan.
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>>77117679
>why should anyone consume basedbeans
oh, nothing major, just reductions in CVD mortality
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/9/4/324
primary source of spermidine, strongest correlation of any dietary molecule for longevity
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8612618/
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>>77117771
That's not a thing I was arguing for. You can and should eat meat and beans together, the best diets have a large variety of nutrition sources.
>>77117813
I greentexted the strawman arguments every ꜱoy thread has repeated since 2015. If you're triggered by being called out, it's because your argument is straw thin and a decade outdated.
Fuck off back to tiktok now newfag.
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>>77112234
Meal idea:
>1 block tofu
>1 lb ground beef
>white rice (however much)
>break up tofu or dice small
>sautee ground beef till med-rare
>add in tofu
>add chili oil, onions sauce, and other vaguely Asian liquids
>serve over rice with chopped scallions
>add eggs if you’re a fucking maniac
What would the macros be? Pretty fucking crazy right?
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>>77118159
>If you're triggered
I'm not triggered. I just pointed out that you're a low test pussy who doesn't even directly respond to the people he is literally quoting and therefore no one should take you seriously about the sōy-estrogen connection.
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