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Whistleblowing inside here.
Stay far away from Thorne products
Been working at the summerville plant for about 5 years. About two years ago we got bought out by a private equity firm.
Things been getting shittier and shittier but hey its a job, I usually dont give a fuck but we have gotten pretty egregious with the things we do, and surprisingly get away with?
Anyways lots of raw ingredients come with big silica desiccant gel packs in them. Each about 650g of the stuff.
We kept not taking them out and they would get broken in the run and you cant seperate them from the powders and it would have to be trashed.
Big wig super genious who has never stepped on production floor decides just sift out what you can then mill the rest into powder and nobody will know.
Now they dont even want us to try and remove the packs, just toss it all in, let what breaks open breaks open, sift what little is sifted out (A normal run might have 20 packs in it, thats 13kg of silica desi gel. You might sift out <1kg and the rest gets milled up into powder)
It seems super fucked up to me, but idk if anyone here will give a fuck. But hey, is what it is
fuck em
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>>77116419
here's a gem for your trouble (whistle)blowing anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m5Ey23OGMo&list=RD7m5Ey23OGMo&start_r adio=1
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>>77116555
this is what went through after 13kg of desiccant
what possible information can this 'test' be useful for
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>>77116558
dawg you need to report to FDA that is a serious safety issue. I hope you have proof of your boss saying to allow desiccant into the product.
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>>77116565
see link here for anonymous reporting.
https://www.safetyreporting.hhs.gov/SRP2/en/Home.aspx?sid=eb18fb28-a0e e-4268-a028-e65f9e52e89d
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>>77116574
you arent wrong but i am risking my neck out here anon, easy to say when its not your livelihood on the line. This department is like <50 people and not many of us have access to these kinds of documents
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>>77116592
>invstgate
my bosses are not smart people...
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>>77116595
best case scenario they fire you and you get to sue them as a whistleblower and get a gorillion dollars.
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>>77116674
they come with the raw materials shipped from china
>>77116668
see above. my bosses are not smart people
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WITNESSING
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>>77116884
Based go take your millions anon
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>>77119387
>silicon dioxide is a filler in most of thorne products desu
>silica gel is not the same thing
It's exactly the same thing. The dessicant packs that say silica gel and do not eat are silicon dioxide that you can eat. Ingest anyway, wouldn't chew it.
If it was known to be toxic in any way do you retards really think 100,000 food and supplement products would have it in flimsy paper packs.
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>>77119569
If you say so
I have poured thoudands of kilos of silicon dioxide
I have seen silica gel milled to fine powder
They don't look like the same thing or flow the same way. Not same color.
Just my experience you could be right
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In this episode of /fit/, a disgruntled employee on a PIP (performance improvement plan) with scope of being fired due to poor performance wants to sink the company on his way out. What hijinks are going to transpire in this episode of whacky 4chan greentext posts when anon founds out that... *record scratch* *freeze frame*... SILICA GEL ISNT TOXIC!?!?!?
>Scene change
>https://youtu.be/w15oWDh02K4 begins playing
>a mid 20's dishellved man is sat at a computer with dirty laundry and beer cans strewn across the floor in his mums boxroom
>zoom in and scene begins
Hi, my name is anon. You're probably wondering how I became a top level whistle blower. Well you see, I was once a straight working HR abiding citizen just like you. Until I saw those damned silica packets... I knew since day 1 they were risky business. You see, it says "DO NOT EAT" on them. It doesn't take a genius to know that they're as sketchy as a detroit hooker 2 days away from their food stamps hitting their doorstep. Anyway, let me cut the chase. One day the big cheese caught me cranking hog in the female toilets and.. well you get the picture. I was on a 1 way bus ride to cannedville, population: me. That's when it hit me. I've been dumping raw materials into the industrial mixers without proper oversight for years. That's at least 12 metric tons of silica packets delivered straight down the gullets of the Joe Schmoe's of America. How are they even alive? I don't want to hear how I'm responsible. Sure, it was me who dumped the raw materials into the vats. But so what? At the end of the day, cranking hog in the bathroom stall is a personal matter, and Susan from HR is a fucking bitch for reporting me....... she's stood behind me isnt she?.... WELL THAT HAPPENED!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa_RSwwpPaA starts playing
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>>77119918
Correct I'm just saying my personal experience is they do not look like eachother
I've seen both milled into fine powder and they don't have the same properties
I don't know the significance of that. Could be nothing. Just my experience, I don't have an explanation
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>>77116419
i hate to shill reddit here but post this info on /r/nootropicsdepot
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kek that's fucking hilarious if true
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>>77116419
shit could you try contacting u/misteryouaresodumb over on reddit? he's the owner of nootropics depot and has done callouts about fucked up companies before, im sure he's going to want to hear about this
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>>77116419
put me in the screencap
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>>77116419
Op, silica gel is nontoxic it says do not eat on it bc its a choking hazard but if you are grinding it into powder thats a nonissue. The worst thing thats happening here is your retarded boss is fleecing customers by diluting the product by a few %.
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>>77122031
hey I did preface all this with I dont know if anyone will give a fuck
been doing this a long time so theres normal bullshittery and then there is higher level bullshittery. Even all the other dudes here who dont normally give a fuck were like damn, this is kinda fucked up.
Didn't hear shit saturday but ill update if any leaking panic comes out today
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>>77122118
TY for saying this lol. It really weirded me out.
I am a little higher up than the rank and file, I am a good employee that was, at least, under the impression of trying to spread a little awareness of the shift in culture. We used to be serious about the quality of the product. Now we aren't and we will do pretty much anything we can get away with.
Take it at face value. If you dont care because it's 'non-toxic' thats fine. Its kind of indicative of an over all approach to quality, not that we are actively attempting to poison people.
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Here is the outlet of a big filitration system for CLEAN water to clean some of the machines.
This one is used for cleaning the two large rotary blenders. Any 23-32 ounce powder that gets mixed into water/milk/etc comes through these machines. Fibermend/Protein/Mediclear, etc
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>>77122567
I wonder if you could send these over to a news station
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>>77122755
i'm not sure they are breaking the law
supplements are barely regulated
morally wrong yes, illegal? ehh.
whistleblower my help with the alert to the fda
but if i get caught posting this shit on here, or going to media or influencers i dont know about all that
i'd rather not find out
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>>77116419
Wiow good find.
Yes silicone dioxide is absoluteyl toxic. its used as a lubircating agent for the machines and excipient just found in the powder. Its considered "safe" by corrupt FDA standards. Silicone dioxide is literal glass dust that fucks up your gut and intestines when ingested.
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>>77122782
u wont