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>News & Rumors
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>>108262311
looks more like something that'd fit in a bar, pretty neat.

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I need a second 1440p monitor and I already wanted to get RE9. Are there any major downsides to this monitor? Because it seems almost too good to be true for the price.

>>108262354
my asus panel cost me $250 at the time with 15 less hz, that oughta be nice.,

>>108262354
Shitty stand, basic bitch IPS gaming panel.
Fine for a primary budget gaming monitor, it's probably overkill for a secondary screen if you got a nice primary.

When do we expect AMD, intel and Nvidia to release new product ranges?

>>108262463
Once the RAM apocalypse ends.

>>108262463
Q1 2027 the earliest, AMD isn't a rush to sell more advanced CPUs when they're doing well in both data center & client segments.
NVIDIA and AMD will continue to prioritize TSMC wafer allocations to more profitable processors than GeForce/Radeon products (as long as there's no production bottlenecks for the server/enterprise GPUs).
Intel is still too behind to care for whatever they're shitting out for the next two years in terms of desktop CPUs & discrete GPUs.

You wait™ for Intel products that come out after Nova Lake S.

>>108262463
gpus 3 year release cycles
cpus who cares

>>108262354
def buy a pulsar monitor instead
much better motion clarity

>>108262549
Pulsar monitors atm are as expensive as OLEDs (not to say that I think OLED are great, I still dont think the tech is ready for anything beyond TV/Phones/tablets).
I really wonder how long it will take for the price to drop (or if the tech will become forgotten/abandoned instead of cheaply widespread like freesync). 650 for one might have been good if FALD was incorporated as well but nope.

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So it looks like cleaning tar from the hexagon meshes is fucking impossible unless I pour acetone directly onto it and let surface tension do the work, but I don't have enough. I'd need a liter to dip the meshes in.

God, this is fucking sisyphus work. I need a better approach to decontaminating this shitbox than a fine toothbrush. Something to stick into each and every one of those hexacomb mesh holes to mechanically dislodge the tar from the edges.

>>108262463
I think it's far more plausible to just keep making what they already make or re-release old products than to launch new products most people can't afford and won't buy
if intel had brains they would launch bartlett lake for consumers and force aibs to make new and more ddr4 z890 motherboards
amd should re release am4 x3d
those products would sell, people would buy them
nvidia is smart, they already restarted production for the old 3060 12gb

>>108262624
products are designed and finalized on a 4-5 year timescale. any short-term change in price doesn't or only barely affects next and next-next gen's time to market

>>108262636
they already postponed zen 6 and nova lake to early next year, so the crisis is already making them change plans

>>108262590
yeah but you get world class motion clarity, so its worth it

if I have a 5700x3d and they launch the 5800x3d, should I upgrade? it's only 400mhz difference

>>108262546
>cpus who cares
I care. The 5090 will be good for 10 years.

>>108262615
Dish soap and a sink? If not get some purple power and mix accordingly. If too strong it will strip paint.

>>108262354
go read the RTINGS review.
but if it's a second monitor, why aren't you just retiring an old monitor, and why does it need 180hz?

>>108262699
Get a nylon brush for scrubbing as well.

>>108262463
>I NEED NEW I MUST HAVE NEW GIVE ME NEW
>GIVE ME WARM
>GIVE ME SOFT
late 2027.

>>108262590
I expect that in 2028 we will get the freesync equivalent. nvidia's new features seem to be on a 2 year delay to being affordable and unlocked.

>>108262641
not related to RAM retard.

>>108262727
you have to be retarded

>>108262624
>nvidia is smart, they already restarted production for the old 3060 12gb
Production of those dirt cheap Maxwell GPUs never ended, it keeps Samsung foundry and NVIDIA's OEM partners happy.

>>108262743
I can confirm, that anon is retarded.

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>>108262624
>>108262641
>>108262743
you are either ESL, underaged, or illiterate.

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>I'm the scalper now

>>108262699
>dish soap and a sink?
Maybe, I still got some E500 to try in the absence of TSP so I might try that after it dries so to not mix chemicals. Though I am weary of where to dispose them, cleaning the bowl of tar will its self be somewhat of an issue.
>strip paint
All the better if the underlying steel is intact, I may wish to sand before repainting anyway. My intent is to be rid of any and all odor from the tar.
>>108262707
If I don't have one already, though probably not small enough to wipe the hexacomb.

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Upgrade from 7600x to 9600x for 15-30 bucks yay or nay ?
(Depends on how much i can sell it for )

I like my thermals to be low.

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do not update.

>>108262862
I thought 7000 had lower power and better thermals though?

>>108262912
Man, I should have just fuckin bought the 3090 for the VRAM like a normal person, right?

>>108262812
wish there was an XL version
you guys like tiny cases
tiny fishtank cases for tiny little 'men'

>>108262939
idk 4000 series was good, VRAM bump across the lineup and big efficiency gains.
5000 series has just been a disaster from the start. it's an overclocked 4000 series with the expected instability from overclocking. then the vibecoded drivers that have something new breaking every patch.

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>>108262354
there's only 1 problem with it anon, its not ultrawide.

>>108262615
>tar
wtf, are you unironically trying to clean a pc tower that a smoker raped? the labor cannot possibly be less than just buying a new fucking tower.

>>108262971
are ultrawides actually worth it or is there so little support across titles that it just looks like shit?

>>108262951
RTX 5000 has different levels of hardware support like FP4, it's lazy to dismiss it as an OC'd RTX 4000 GPU.
RTX 50 GPUs are also more power efficient across the V/F table, that's not something an overclocked GPU can achieve.

>>108262686
It won't, in 10 years it'll also most definitely burn.

>>108262996
show me the performance on some power limited 5000 cards, when limited to their 4000 equivalents.

gay

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>>108263005
You do your own research faggot. RTX 50 GPUs run more performantly across the usable voltage bands compared to their RTX 40 equivalents.
It doesn't take a genius to know a 5090 generates more FPS @ 450W than a 4090 at the same power limit.

>>108262947
>Wish
That's what losers do. Real men make their own.

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coldclient
EfiGuard
amd_ags_x64.dll
amd_ags_x64.org
ColdClientLoader.ini
hyperevade.dll
hyperhv.dll
hyperkd.sys
hyperlog.dll
kdserial.dll
KIRIGIRI.dll
ReadMe.txt
READNFO-MKDEV.TEAM.txt
SimpleSvm.sys
steamclient_loader_x64.exe
watchdog.exe

>buy gpu 30 jan
>re9 promotion starts 10th feb
>ask nvidia if they can give me a key anyway
>they say no i have to ask the seller of my gpu
>cant do that, bought it on ebay
>try to buy a re9 key from somebody who doesnt want theirs
>get scammed out of $25

why don't i just start raping and murdering and fucking killing stray cats

why don't i just start fucking burning cats and stray dogs

Is the gigabyte gaming OC 5090 a bad one?

>>108263103
you can use it to bludgeon stray cats and fuck dogs in the ass with it

>>108263023
Sir, this is a gay thread.

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i'm using a 5800xt and i think temps are getting too high (cooler: msi mag a15, motherboard is asus rog b550f gaming wifi ii, case is asus proart pa602). i might've not used enough thermal paste. cpu is getting too hot even though it's running on eco mode

>>108263081
have you tried not being retarded?

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>>108263092
you will go to hell and lucifer will burn your soul

>>108263117
Have you tried killing yourself?

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/directx/shader-execution-reordering/

Using SER with the settings below running on an NVIDIA RTX 4090 showed a 40% framerate increase versus not using SER, and a couple of configurations of Intel Arc B-Series GPUs each showed a 90% framerate increase.

NVIDIA AND INTEL WON

HE BUYED BOUGHTED INFERIOR COMPETITOR'S GPU WITH NO REORDERING SUPPORT

>>108263146
Using SAAAR with the settings below running on an NVIDIA RTX 4090 showed a 40% framerate increase versus not using SAAAR

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>>108263143
you seem upset.

>>108263115
definitely repaste or make sure the mount is tight, that doesn't look great.

>>108263146
pic related

>>108263115
Check whether you removed the plastic seal on the AIO's cold plate, and also the mounting pressure.

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>>108262988
95% of all vidya released in the last decade on pc support ultrawide just fine.

>>108262912
Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering why it so bad on my 4090.

>>108263000
Mines on a water block and if my plug burns it's an easy replacement. After my warranty is up I'm putting a second 12vhpwr connector on since Gigabyte was nice enough to have a mount for one.

>>108262982
You are probably right, but it's a HAF 932 Advanced so I figured it would be an ideal case for DIY modding. Sunken cost fallacy getting that paint for what is half of the cost for a new mid tower. Less sure about full towers today though.

>>108262982
>>108263427
getting rid of smoke/dust is easy three pass, stop using chemicals

1. presoak with vinegar + HOT water + light brush scrub
2. coat with a paste --- 1/2 cup water, tablespoon of dawn soap, and enough baking soda to make a paste with the liquid mentioned before + SCRUB!!!
3. rinse and ENJOY!

Would you buy a new monitor or a new HDD right now

new hdd
monitors only goona get cheaper
hdd only gonna get more expensive

>>108263081
>>buy gpu 30 jan
>>re9 promotion starts 10th feb
Same shit happened with me when I got a new cpu and missed out on that Crimson Desert promo.

>>108262354
I'm going to assume this promo is for a Steam copy and not EGS, right?

>>108262354
27" 1440p IPS now costs $160 bucks and people are still saying these are for high settings

>>108263525
goddammit
everything just has to be so fucking expensive

>>108262488
>>108262500
>>108262546
>>108262624
Thanks, time to update my 10 year old pc before WW3 starts.

>>108263484
Thanks fren, I will try the kitchen soda method the next day. Hopefully it won't be too acidic compared to an alkaline degreaser or acetone.

>>108262311
good morning I hate cases and cables

>>108263146
>>108262912

>>108264059
Only no-lifers who immediately updated the new drivers were affected, given how quickly the version was pulled off.
You always give a few days, or even weeks, to let others play the guinea pigs when it comes to new products & updates.

Don't even know if I should get a 5090

>>108264112
Yes. It will be that best GPU available for at least 4 years.

>>108264112
i would say yes if it was early last year, but they are like $4000 now and rising so i'd say no, just get a 5070 ti or something and call it a day

>>108264145
lol? 5090ti will be out by next year.

>>108264159
The GB202 die maxes out with the Blackwell 6000 and has maybe 5 percent more performance. A 5090ti will just be an expensive 5090 with maybe more vram? No way it will be worth the cash, and very unlikely to even be made.

>>108264186
it's funny seeing all of these gpus that are like 5 times more expensive than the base 5090 fe only get like 5 more fps in games

if you haven't bought a 9070xt or 5070ti by this time you deserve everything you get.

>>108264145
Yeah but what use is "the best gpu" in an era where heavy games that are worth playing are so few?

>>108264194
I passed on a 3090 to buy a 5070
I didn't buy an SSD
I didn't buy a CPU

>>108264214
>you deserve everything you get.
i also doubt your pcu could handle a 3090 when you bought a 5070.

>>108264196
Because it can play your favorite old game at 500fps and anything that catches your interest in the next 15 years? If that's not appealing then what are you here for. Just buy an old 306012gb, 12700k, DDR4 build and move on. It will suit you fine.

I still don't know whether to go 27" 1440p oled or 27" 4k oled

>>108264227
My system handled Vega and Hawaii, it could handle a 3090
>bought a 5070
Only because someone I knew was over in the states and it was the only sensible choice left

>>108264233
But every single good game ever released (with the exception of 20 titles maximum) can be played maxxed out with lower specs at 200+ fps? not only is the 5090 the shittiest flagship in recent memory, it also unlocks even less game than previous cards (3090 compared to 2080 and 4090 compared to 3090)

>>108264268
Then just buy an old 306012gb, 12700k, DDR4 build and move on.

>>108264281
Yeah so it's a pointless card outside of VR

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>>108264261
>Vega and Hawaii
bruh with 20 ms spikes to 528W

>>108264287
My system can accept two power supplies incase there was any doubt

>>108264315
>and he bought a 5070 of all cards kek

>>108264287
My 3090 worked just fine with an 850w Power supply.

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>>108264323
>850w

>>108264318
To be fair, it wasn't my money and the thought of a card that powerful I could undervolt to under 200W and stick into a quiet case had its own appeal
I can resell it for a profit and buy a 3090 later probably, only reason I didn't is because I thought I could nab a 5070 Ti but in hindsight I should have just gotten it for the VRAM alone, inefficiency and features be damned

>>108264286
Yep just stick to the 3060 12gb.

>>108264332
3 years no problem and the PSU is in another PC right now with a 5080. No issues.

>>108264332
>daring today are we
No, daisy chaining two 750W power supplies (one for the GPU, one for the normal system) in one system would be daring.

>>108264356
it was sarcasm bro.

No actually I am retarded for not buying a good condition 3090 when I had the chance, I could have used that VRAM for more than fun with stable diffusion, I could have also used it for doing CFD testing and particle simulation

>>108264186
???
https://youtu.be/p5pZuUmpIyY

>>108264452
750w with what connector? The bespoke 5090 Matrix and Lightning can pull 800w/1000w and barely make 5 percent gain. A 5090ti is a dumb product. It's basically reselling a 5090 for 2x the MSRP.

>>108264484
ok? it will still be stronger than the 5090 so it makes sense it would cost more.
if you were smart with your money you wouldn't have bought anything more expensive than the 5070 ti or 9070 xt.

How much of a hassle is it to install extra m.2 drives after building? I only have one for now but I know I'll want more down the time if and when I can get a better price.
Do you just have to remove the GPU to get at the other slots (or maybe not even that if its low enough on the board?) and can it be done easily enough while the motherboard is still in the case?

>>108262671
Probably not worth it. If you need more clock speed for productivity, you wouldn't be looking at X3D in the first place.

>>108264337
3060 isn't powerful enough but 5090 doesn't unlock anything outside of VR compared to lower (but not much lower) end tier cards though, you keep dodging the subject

>>108264494
gpu must be removed
other than that it depends on how the mobo has the heatsinks

Watched like 4 build videos with commentary to prep myself. It actually doesn't look too bad (but experienced builders probably make it look a lot easier than it is)

The worst recurring things seem to be
>putting in the CPU, which doesn't look hard but does look scary
>putting in the ram and cooler, I don't like the words "you need a lot of pressure"
>all these tiny little mobo connectors with bendable pins look like hell especially some of the hard to reach ones by the top of the case or in tight
>updating the bios, fuck this fuck this fuck this
Hopefully I can start building soon and it all goes well.

>>108264562
I built my first PC as a 16 years old with a terrible hangover and no prior experience in tinkering with anything
You'll manag

>>108263520
Which one do you need more? I have no use for another monitor, while I would love more storage. At $22/tb, though, I'd pass.

>>108264552
The 5090 is 40 percent faster than a 4090. It's not a 5090s fault that it's so overpowered nothing utilized it fully. If you just want old games you don't even need to be concerned with modern cards. Like I said Just buy an old 306012gb, 12700k, DDR4 build and move on.

>>108264562
go slow. go steady. when in doubt youtube, monkey see monkey do. DONT FORCE ANYTHING. re-read the manual.

>>108264562
>"you need a lot of pressure"
If you need more pressure than using your thumbs on both ends, the thing probably needs to be rotated before you snap it.

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>oled monitors down to almost $500 cad
>still cant bring myself to buy one because i use my pc 12 hours a day and spend most of my day web browsing

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is it over?

>>108264647
dell just came out with 240hz IPS panels for $150

monkey's paw: theyre 1080p

>>108264589
>40
more like 30 and that's a real small gap between flagships

>>108264589
there isn't a game you can play on a 5090 but not a 5060.

>>108264672
Not as small as the gap between the 5090 and 6090 will be.

>>108264714
Same can be said about the 3060 12gb.

>>108264720
The 6090 will be on a new node and will be an actually meaningful upgrade thanks to this

>>108264647
Monitor companies fuck around making 500hz displays yet oled still burns in, IPS has terrible contrast and bloom and VA smear is still mostly awful with rare exceptions. These retards have to stop what they're doing asap and figure out how to make minileds for cheap

>>108264574
Well I don't need the storage technically, but I'd have to make space and move a bunch of shit around and reconfigure a whole bunch of other stuff I'd rather not do (too lazy). Dropping in a big capacity drive that'd last me 2 years minimum is the easier (and way more expensive) solution. But the drive I'd need is like £600 up from the £350 it was last year. I was gonna spend that on a fancy oled monitor but, yeah the monitor would be a nice to have over the storage. The other guy was right, monitors are going to keep dropping in price, the storage simply isn't. More fool me for waitfagging.

anyone here undervolt their 9070 xt? settings?

Anons I need your advice, I am trying to find a prebuilt at a reasonable price i.e around 1k or lower, any good shouts?

>>108264729
Maybe but they will just cut the die in half. The 6090 will be 15 percent faster at best.

>>108264754
should I install the adrenalin full edition for that? I have the minimal install now for basic functions.

>>108264740
the last time I checked only the chinese bothered making miniLeds

>>108264754
>>108264774
don't look at what people get on online. everyone there says that you can get -100 easy peasy and 225W. look up a good video that isn't just wishful thinking. test real games. get real gains and stability.

>>108264761
Now that's a cope, the 6090 will be much faster than 15% and it'll feel like the actual 5090 we were meant to have

>>108264792
It makes sense not to invest in that technology because oled displays look great now and they self-destruct which means people keep buying new monitors and TV's. 4k is more than enough for most people so there's not much room to improve in terms of image quality.

I am upgrading my PC soon, I am waiting for the next gen AMD CPU, should I also wait for the 5090TI/60 series?

>>108264754
make small changes and keep it for anywhere from a few hours to a few days, and keep going until it becomes unstable, then dial it back.

>>108264908
no new GPUs from Nvidia in 2026 so 60 series is earliest 2027

>>108264908
if you're waiting for zen 6 then you're waiting for 2 years, that's not soon.

>>108264670
>dell just came out with 240hz IPS panels for $150
WTF
cheapest 1080p 240hz ips panes were like $250 a year ago

>>108264756
why get a prebuilt instead of picking out your own parts and having the retailer assemble it for you

>>108265015
https://www.tomshardware.com/monitors/gaming-monitors/dell-launches-new-budget-1080p-gaming-monitor-with-an-ultra-fast-240hz-refresh-rate-for-less-than-usd130-new-27-inch-ips-display-includes-amd-freesync-support-and-0-5ms-response-time

>>108263081
Why don't you paypig just start torrenting instead?

>>108264908
There will be no 5090ti. The 60 series won't be out until late Q4 2027. The new amd cpus have no release date as of yet.

>>108265080
I'm gonna buy this. Anyone got any Amazon recs for VESA mounts to clamp to a desk or something solid I can put on top of 3 reams of paper? I'm a very tall person.

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>>108263081
nothing of value was lost

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>buy HDD on ebay
>pretty """good""" deal
negotiate a few bucks off
>seller said he'd ship yesterday
>seller has not shipped
>seller has raised the price of the HDD on his page
>seller has fucked off and set his status to on holiday and shipping is delayed

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>>108265080
>>108265144
>27" 1080p

>>108265006
What if I'm waiting for intel?

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>>108265204
>waiting for intel

>>108264827
>the 6090 will be much faster than 15%
Nope. After a 4 year dry spell of no GPUs people will pay the $2500 MSRP for a cut down die that's 15 percent faster than a 5090. They do it now so why not maximize profit.

>>108265204
Then you have money for a platform upgrade so build now and upgrade later anyway?

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>>108264562
Nah nigga.
The worst part about building a PC is these fuckers.

>>108265206
Yes now tell me when they will release.

lol how are people still hating on the 5090

>>108263115
> asus proart pa602
Awesome case. I got the Wood Edition with Metal Panel.
It takes a thick ALF 420 if you mod the studs of the mesh cover.

> asus rog b550f gaming wifi ii
Why? It has no front header for your USB-C socket.
You should have gotten the ROG Strix B550-E that has one.

>>108265167
Grim.

But I guess for gaymers who can't afford a good GPU it makes sense.

>>108265211
I already have a 12900ks that does 90 percent of everything I want.

>>108265227
and the other 10%

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>>108265221
there are still people buying intel and waiting for them

>>108265218
The Intel chips worth buying may not be out until 2029, I am not joking.
Nova Lake-S is a skip generation, you can save this comment.
You'll know Intel is back when they don't have to rely on TSMC for their critical CPU tiles and GPUs.

>>108265232
no avx512

>>108265221
Because my $2400 5090 investment is now worth 4k and I will sell it in 4 years for more than I paid. Imagine having the king of performance for 5 years and being paid to use it.

>>108265232
I just lose some FPS in some CPU demanding titles. I still have good enough performance.

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>>108265243
That's what I don't get. People did the same with the 4090 and there was still another VRAM card with 24GB. What were they thinking the 5090 would do?

Oh wait I do remember them talking about a 9080XT with 32GB VRAM

>>108265221
5090 is an unrepairable product with design flaws unlikely to last 5 years

>>108265270
What?

>>108265270
lol

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>>108265255
>AMD sourcing GDDR7 memory chips for an RDNA4 mid-generation card.
Pure fan fiction. They're already struggling to affordably source GDDR6 for these cards.

>>108264562
>>putting in the CPU, which doesn't look hard but does look scary
Can't really go wrong with modern LGA.
>>putting in the ram and cooler, I don't like the words "you need a lot of pressure"
That one does feel scary, it can feel like you're snapping the motherboard in half, but it's fine.
>>all these tiny little mobo connectors with bendable pins look like hell especially some of the hard to reach ones by the top of the case or in tight
Only the tiny single wires for the power/reset buttons and status lights are a pain.
But even if you bend those pins they'll still be fine.
All other connectors only go in one way and it's basically impossible to break them.
>>updating the bios, fuck this fuck this fuck this
It's not hard and it's designed in such a way that the chance of it going wrong even when you experience a power failure is close to zero.

>>108265215
What are you talking about?
That connector is perfectly fine.
And you don't even have to use it if you don't care about the front panel USB ports.

>>108265204
unless you're buying a laptop you're going to be waiting a decade.

>>108265270
You said the same about my 3090 and it's still going strong.

>>108265080
>IPS
>27" 1080
???

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>>108265314
3090s have an obvious power delivery flaw.
Video card repairers are so used to repairing a blown DrMOS on these cards.
Worse part is, the replaced DrMOS is likely to die again if you don't undervolt & power limit the GPU.
>Didn't happen to me yet
Doesn't matter, even overbuilt cards like the Strix & Aorus Master 3090's DrMOS were dying.
It's a matter of time.

3080/Ti & 3090s are steady income generators for these professional repairers.

>>108265210
>They do it now so why not maximize profit.
People are buying 5090s for the vram and it will be the same for the 6090. Expect to see alot of 5090s getting dumped onto the market after the 6090 gets released because a good amount of people running 5090s are doing so because of the vram and ai. They'll simply try and dump the cost of the 6090 on to whoever buys their burnt out 5090.

I don't expect that to happen because nJudea is just going to paper launch the 60 series anyway. They'll make an excuse to simply halt production of consumer cards altogether.

>"we stopped manufacturing the 50 series because we make 60 series now."
>"what, you can't get a 60 series because we only made three?"
>"just buy a 50 series then."
>"no we're not going to sell you a 50 series because we make 60 series now."

AIO coolers are overrated

>>108264112
You would be paying a hefty premium over MSRP and still not getting enough path tracing power.
Only if you want/need it for AI you should consider it.
I'm waiting for the PTX 6090 while gaymen on a RTX 4090.

>>108265340
FUD or truth nuke? Call it
This is why u buy Quadto/Workstation cards, low power draw + lots of VRAM and a cooler swap and you're theoretically gud

>>108264112
7800XT is perfectly good

>KTC M27T6 (miniLED)

Is this monitor being shilled in the OP actually good or are you guys just memeing?

I chose a 5070 over a 3090 to deliberately stop myself from becoming terminally addicted to prompting anime tiddies in Stable Diffusion no matter how much my depressed artistic ass wanted to explore the full potential of relaxing after a stressful weekend having fun generating no compromise resolution and lora prompts along with video generation.

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>>108265369
It's the truth, professional GPU repairers know those 3080/Ti & 3090s are all on a timer.
KrisFixGermany is one of the best video card repairers in Europe.
He fixed DerBauer's botched 4090 Strix XOC mod, and he's swamped with GPU repairs from all over Europe.

There's a reason why NVIDIA totally overhauled the power delivery for the 3090 Ti.

>>108265379
miniLED on monitors is a joke
oled all the way

>>108265387
PICK UP A PENCIL NIGGA

>>108265402
Does the 3090 Ti actually have proper power delivery or is it still running out of spec past the shunt resistors? I saw someone mention something.

I did plan on power limiting that Gainward or Strix 3090 that I almost bought to 250W but remembering my 980 Ti power tripping I still doubt it would have been sufficient.

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>>108265215
>Plugged this thing into my motherboard and then had to unplug everything for reasons
>Ended up ripping the plastic part of the plug on the motherboard
I somehow managed to get the plastic part back on, but god damn that was the most ass clenching thing ever.

>>108265421
3090 Ti's power delivery & board design is basically a safer version of the 4090, it's completely different to the riskier 3090.

>>108265221
Well because it's a high end product that is both disappointing performance wise and stil relies on weak, shoddy connectors?

the 5090 being the best gaming gpu doesn't make it praiseworthy, every single flagship throughout history has been the best at the time of its release
there is simply a world of difference between a 1080ti/4090 and a 2080ti/5090 for instance

>>108265410
I did, bought a Wacom Intuos Pro to supplement my graphite sticks before damaging it a few days in by dropping a piece of metal pencil on it.

My feelings of lust and intrigue is still very high though because if I wanted to I could capitalize on a niche market segment quite well. Also my girlfriend is a likewise horny lunatic and reinforces my moral corruption.

The hardest choices require the strongest wills.

>>108265221
Too much money

>>108265387
>5070
I'm sure this thing can still do image generation though

its video gen where you have to compromise

>>108265402
What are the most reliable GPUs? Would a 5090@Wireview pro 2 be really reliable or not?

>3060 and 3070 can be modded to double memory capacity
>5070 can only go up to 18gb instead of 24gb
Proof the 5070 is a 5060 and the 5070 Ti is the actual 5060 Ti.

I feel like one GPU support leg is insufficient, or that they should bring back the original ATX spec of PCIE cards being secured from both sides.

krisfix germany is a coward and a liar and deleted all of his fearmongering videos after being proved wrong over and over again

>>108265443
>'m sure this thing can still do image generation though
It can, but I doubt it is that much better than 8 at avoiding OOM compared to 16/24GB. Besides didn't SD list 24GB in their system requirements way back?

>>108265455
>What are the most reliable GPUs?
A 4090 GPU implanted on an XOC 3090 Ti board (with faster GDDR6X chips).
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/worlds-first-rtx-4090-super-scores-up-to-16-higher-than-standard-4090-custom-liquid-cooled-gpu-has-3090-ti-pcb-and-faster-gddr6x

>Would a 5090@Wireview pro 2 be really reliable or not?
I'd undervolt (+OC) the 5090 and set a 480~500W power limit to give it a bit more safety margin.

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>>108265474
He's making a decent living thanks to all the broken 3090s, I didn't even filter the review comments to get those 3090 owner feedback.
He doesn't need the publicity. He's swamped with work.

>>108265476
have you used image diffusion before. you just use a lighter model

If and when my Zotac 5070 arrives, first thing I'm doing is undervolting (worked well on my 3060 Ti).

But how do I protect myself from fucking up the GPU VBIOS or something if it becomes unstable? My 280X is fucked because installing any driver results in those voltage settings getting applied and instantly crashing the GPU. Unless it doesn't work like that with Afterburner on newer cards, or if this is an AMD only issue.

>>108265517
>have you used image diffusion befor
I have used SD on 8GB of VRAM since 2023 with 200GB of Lora files downloaded since. But I would prefer having extra headroom for once in my life sometimes.

>>108264194
Why would I when my 6800 XT is working perfectly fine for the games I play? Yeah the AI support is fucked because >AMD but I will live.

>>108265167
>>108265144
I'm old and I don't need more than 1080p
Simple as

My next monitor will be a 32" 4K later on this year but I don't wanna use an ancient strobing BenQ with my new PC

Also again anyone rec any decent brands for a VESA mount on Amazon for clamp or large heavy base that will sit on 3 reams stacks of paper?

>>108264194
this but blackwell 6000 instead

>>108265568
>I'm old and I don't need more than 1080p
Everyone says this until they get an opportunity of using 4k for more than 1 week, for both work and media in general (games, videos, etc). The jump in image quality, text clarity and screen real estate is enormous.

>>108265587
Basically everything can run 4k now with realistic settings.

>>108265568
>>I'm old

switch to a 42" or bigger OLED TV
having a remote >>>> everything else tbqh

>>108265495
NTA but I've been very skeptical about the Gigabyte AORUS 5090s, they're using thermal putty that's known to leak in vertical position but even horizontally, doesn't that mean the thermal will get much worse much faster compared to standard 5090s?

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https://youtu.be/QFSzI8EBftE
holy fuck the path tracing kills raster dead

>>108265600
Yep. Sitting on a couch like a human is sweet.

>>108265617
im guessing in a week theres a patch that fixes the weird shading of her face

that doesnt seem normal

>>108265379
People bitch when someone posts premium monitors in the OP.
Most of the display recommendations in the OP end up being value/budget monitors like that KTC miniLED.
That miniLED is fine for what you pay for, but don't expect premium quality and any future firmware updates.
There are no perfect monitors atm, you pick your poison even if you buy a four figure 4K OLED.
I wouldn't pay full price for any of the currently available monitors.

>>108265616
Gigabyte claims to have fixed the thermal gel issues, but I wouldn't buy it anyway.

>>108265617
another game that ignores 30 years of faking good lighting to safe a few bux. like do old games that look good have the same problems? no? this game is just slop then.

>>108265617
>>108265625
So many games make they eyes look like they are shell shocked. FF7 Rebirth is a huge offender. They look like WW1 trench warfare survivors.

>>108265617
>one good path tracing game every year

YAAAWN
I still find it absolutely hilarious that both PT AW2 and CP77 don't have properly working reflections on mirrors

>>108265616
thermal gel issue was only for the earlier batches. they announced they adjusted the quantity applied so it should be fine now

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>>108265587
But I'm waiting on the pulsar monitors to fix their shit before I buy

Someone just rec me a VESA clamp or thick base mount goddamnit

>>108265600
I already have Samsung QD-OLED tv downstairs with an old DDR4 PC for my media

>>108265660
What GPU do you run?

can 5060ti 16 do 4k gaming decently? what resolution is the sweet spot for this gpu?

>>108265709
4090

>>108265723
its more a local llm gpu since lots of vram but poor gaming perf
youd want a 1440p monitor for it

>>108265524
Modern GeForce cards' vBIOS sets strict performance & overclocking limitations to protect the GPU (& brand value).
You need hardware mods or an extremely exclusive OCing vBIOS to worry about custom voltage values fucking over your 5070.
Most RTX 50 GPUs can't even request beyond 1.075V, bad things can start to happen past 1.15V for reference.

>>108265617
Also water is wet.
No shit more accurate lighting is going to look better. Why do you think real-time ray tracing has been the goal for like 10 years now?

it's like some people's brains got completely wiped by nvidia.

>>108265724
Based. I should have bought one when they were MSRP.

>>108265649
tbf Grace does look like that

>>108265524
If you're worried about system instabilities caused by your GPU overclock, never set the overclocking profile to apply on OS startup until you're sure the settings are stable.
If you fucked up, learn how to enter Windows Safe Mode and uninstall Afterburner (you can keep the OC profiles).

>>108265587
WTF YOU TALKING ABOUT YOU NEED TO SCALE THE OS YOU GET 0 SCREEN REAL ESTATE

>>108265524
>>108265735
yeah don't mess around with vbios wtf are you doing lol. just use msi afterburner or whatever software for your curves and such

>>108265783
you just have autism

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Should I buy this?

>>108265783
I have to zoom in 1080p especially for text sites

>>108265871
Sure.
It's probably gonna increase in value after.... well, you know...

>>108265871
Yes if you have the money. Post it here if you do. I want to see the seething.

>>108265871
>9000

at that point hiring a team to larp out your videogame might be cheaper

When should I sell my spare new in box 64gb vram.

>>108265914
Now.
Prices are starting to go down.

>>108265920
Why would it go down? Dips are expected.

>>108265931
its already at a price that excludes most consumers
like people will either buy am4 system and ddr4 or not build at all

>>108265947
Well then price has stabilized? In that case holding on to it makes no difference.

>>108262463
Nvidia is vibecoding drivers , I don't expect them to give a fuck about consumer GPUs anytime soon.

I should dust off the Pokemon cards I have in my basement from the 1990s and see if I can trade them for computer hardware

>>108265956
if you just want the money then sell now
if you want to keep it then put it in your pc

>>108264647
OLED is a meme, nothing special about it
t. using LG C3 right now

>>108265931
Why would it continue to go up?

>>108265340
>3090 evga
retard not everyone has evga

>>108266019
It doesn't matter you seething faggot, even the better models like Strix, Suprim, and Aorus Master 3090s are dying.

>>108265783
Nobody uses 200% nigga, I use 27 inches at 125% and it works just fine, if you are worried that much about it buy 32 inches.

i've been waiting since covid when everyone was mining to build a PC. it feels like there's never been a good time to do it.
keep waiting?

>>108266037
I have 3080ti TUF for 4.5 years, I have repasted it 2 times already, when is it dying?
retarded nigger, probably a waitfag too

>>108266053
The good time was Mid-2025 to November 2025.
You missed your chance. Sorry.

>>108265992
Will your next monitor be oled

>>108266053
keep waiting for what?

My prediction:
Once everyone could afford high-end hardware, the sff scene will see a surge.
The neat and compact look will essentially become the norm, and everyone is going to try to shove high-end gear in as small a space they can.
Sff is an ever growing trend, and judging by the "sff-ready" gpu's showcased last year, even the manufacturers know where the market is going.

>>108266068
Seething retard, all it takes is one random game for your card's DrMOS to randomly die.
Repasting your GPU die won't unfuck its vulnerable power delivery design.

>>108266053
Expect the price of everything to go up because of the war in the middle east. Unless OpenAI crashes and burns pc components will go up.

>>108266075
I had AOC 144hz4k27" IPS monitor dying on me a month ago, trying to revive it with soldering new caps on internal power supply.
If I fail I'll just get newer IPS 4k monitor.

OLED monitor costs around twice as much and has tons of issues depending on the panel you picked.

>>108266017
No supply would generally make the price of a high demand resource go up.

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>>108266112
>t.

>>108266176
There is supply.
RAM didn't stop production. It's just that the AI stuff bought out a lot of it.
So, they increased production. Now there's more being produced than being purchased at the prices that are offered.

>>108266045
NO THEY USE 150% WHICH IS 1440P BUT 4K PRICE AND PERFORMANCE TAX

>>108266186
Except I own a better video card than yours.
I dare you to run OCCT's GPU transient switch test overnight, that should accelerate the degradation of the DrMOS.

>>108266191
Even if you use 150% you still get better image quality and text clarity.

>>108266210
NOT ON OLED LOL!!!

>>108265617
>That fps hit.
I can't wait till we get to the point where games will run super well with PT on.

>>108266213
Anon, who is talking about OLEDs?

>>108266205
kek

>>108265617
why contact shadows are disabled in raster? you don't need path tracing or even ray tracing for that, seems like a huge waste of power for marginal results

>>108266214
next gen. Sony forcing AMD to put it on their hardware now because they want it in the PS6.

>>108265300
>you don't have to worry about connectors if you just don't put your computer together

>>108266053
Much of 2025 was a good time. Most of 2023 was a great time for stocking up on SSDs. So it goes.

>>108266570
I really wish I got to buy more MLC SSDs before they stopped production.
Now buying used is a crapshoot and overpriced.

Fuck TLC NAND.

I got a 5070 TI and when installing it moved my stuff to another bigger tower due to size issues. I restarted, installed my downloaded drivers (admittedly a few weeks old) and restarted and now i get constant blue screens on startup. Even safe mode gets bluescreens albeit slower. I've spent 2 hours trying to fix this shit, it's fucking over

>>108266622
DDU?

>>108266622
make sure everything is plugged in.

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>>108266186
these waitcuck memes are hysterical lmfao

>>108266622
reseat your ram and double check all ssd/hdd plugs.

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>>108266615
Yeah I never ended up buying a nice big(ish) MLC drive. I suppose sometimes, FOMO isn't a bad thing.

>>108266648
I'll try that tomorrow, but i didn't move the ram out of the motherboard when changing tower. Then again i did have occasional memory related crashes before...

>>108266627
Problem is i can't actually do anything in windows, it crashes instantly and on 5 minutes in safe mode. I used a reset point to go back 2 days but it didn't seem to help, but it looked like the drivers were uninstalled.

>>108265379
I bought a different miniled monitor recently and the HDR is pretty nice. Being able to watch content and game in HDR is big.

>>108266680
any movement in the motherboard can ever so slightly dislodge ram, you gotta reseat it. Blue-screens are usually ram-related.

>>108266696
Do you have an igpu? If so just uninstall drivers withe the GPU removed. If not you could try a fresh install of Windows.

>>108266739
I'll try that in the morning, thanks
>>108266757
Maybe, i also have my old gpu. I don't want to freshly install windows because i have an m2 ssd with invaluable files on and can't risk it being wiped. I should have made a backup, god damn it. I even considered it but thought this was going to be a quick in and out

>>108266778
Just boot up windows on an old drive. But first see if you have an igpu. See if things work fine with it. That or put your old card back in. You may have accidentally fucked something up in the case swap.

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So how should I tweak this? I don't need to get every drop of performance out of my RAM, and I would rather not spend a month tuning it, but I would like to run "good" timings. I've been running furmark+TM5/furmark+ycruncher and this seems stable, 6200MT/s was unstable (might have been stable with GDM on), VSOC is misreported, it's 1.25V.

Can we get a "How best to optimize your new PC" section on the OP? Like things you do on day 1
>removing retarded bloated windows features
>enabling xmp and rebar and whatever else in bios
>overclocking
>driver optimization
>etc
Would be really nice

>>108266966
>>>/g/fwt

>>108266944
lower vddio to 1.25
trefi to 32768 or 65535
trfc to 600 or 500
twr to 48 or 30
trrds / trrdl / tfaw to 4 / 6 / 16
twtrs / twtrl to 4 / 12

>>108266966
>enabling xmp
g.skill has a really nice site with pictures and everything for that.
https://www.gskill.com/community/1584933243/1646893264/How-to-Enable-XMP-EXPO-for-DDR4-DDR5

>>108267002
Alright I'll try some of these. My RAM temps are already pretty high, ~up to 79C during some of these stress tests, and I've read that tREFI and tRFC are very temperature dependent

>>108265476
There's some retardedly bloated image models out there but using fp16/fp32 is pointless when q8 and fp8float exist. You made the right choice.

>>108262311
Just bought a new 5090 for $3050

Did I fuck up?

>>108267044
>My RAM temps are already pretty high, ~up to 79C
don't overclock then. put a fan on it. your ram may already be thermal throttling when you game. it can help with micro stutters and "random" instability.

>>108266966
You don't need to do anything other than removing bloatware (if yours came with any) and enabling XMP/EXPO. Anything beyond that is either too advanced for general advice (i.e overclocking) or goes against optimization in the first place (installing """"""booster"""""""" software). There are specific advices for specific parts but again those are more "advanced".

>>108266944
Did you stick with win10 or suffer Win11
Just bought the same mobo

>>108267080
the rounded corners are an indication that he is on windows 11. if you don't have them and you are on windows 11 you don't have a gpu driver installed.

>>108266966
If you want to discuss optimization, you'd be selling your gaming PC and buying a PS5 Pro or GeForce Now for game streaming and putting your PC money into a $5,000 8k TV.

That is the most "efficient" way to optimize a gaming experience, arguably.

>>108267067
I have yet to see what it is in real workloads, it only gets that hot at peak in furmark+TM5, furmark+ycruncher gets to like ~65C peak. I have a NH-D15s so I'm not sure if I can even fit one of those things over my RAM.

>>108267080
I've been on Win11 for a while

>>108267112
if you don't play games that much sure

>>108267170
flipping the fan was enough to lower my temps by like 10c. honestly i hate how ram gets hot now. so stupid.

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>>108266944
oh neat another 2x48 kit.
i had to give it .01v more vdd than is in picrel to be stable.

I bought a Chinese laptop off of Amazon, some Kaiger brand but theirs a few brands with what looks like the same laptop. It's got a Ryzen 5 7430u, 16gb of DDR5 ram and a 512gb SSD. Bought it for like 400 USD off of Canadian Amazon. Honestly the build quality seems good, IPS screen is decent and nothing fishy or shitty about it at all so far. My only thing is like....can I trust this thing? I should probably like wipe the windows install and re-install it from a USB in case of I don't know backdoors but this laptop has legit zero bloat no bullshit apps or anything.

TLDR: Can Chinese laptops be trusted/should I keep this or spend 200 more dollars on a similar name brand one?

>>108262463
2028 at the earliest

>>108267353
if youre canadian youre already owned by china