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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases and your BUDGET and COUNTRY

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 7/9600X, 7/9800X3D
Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 9950X3D

*Multiple manufacturers report issues on AM5 platforms. New BIOS dropped.
*Raptor Lake microcode updating is mandatory

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (AM5 mount icky)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-7, MX-4, Duronaut, *PTM 7950, Kryosheet
*Most listings online are not actually 7950

>RAM
DDR5: 2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x64GB (high-end)

>STORAGE
[Keep NVME/SSD firmware updated]
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/
HDD prices also increasing YMMV

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt
-Used: 2080, 2080ti
*<16 gb constrained even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 9070, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 9070xt, 5070ti
-Native/High-end: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)
Consider Noctua/Akasa silicone pins instead of screws for case use

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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
Just read TomsHardware -- industry is screwed until RAM/SSD/HDD catches up ;_;

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
GPU: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/lowest-gpu-prices-tracking

>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, currently only lists a selection of AM5 boards but is being actively updated : https://mobomaps.com/
A PC build guide : https://igwiki.lyci.de/wiki/Build_a_PC
German autism : https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews : https://www.rtings.com/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder
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should have never sold my x58 board.
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BROS....
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are test benches a meme?
why do people make such elaborate test benches when you can just put a motherboard on top of newspaper pages near the edge of the desk so that PCI cards fit?
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>>108267914
they have a youtube channel
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>>108267925
oh ok that explains it
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>>108267914
Basically tech reviewers have the hardest job in the world.
They have to unplug a GPU, and then replug it into the motherboard every time they want to test a new GPU.
It takes literally minutes.

So, in order to save themselves these agonising minutes, they get some retarded bench set up that lets them do it more quickly.

Of course, this is completely inaccurate for benchmaking because nobody runs a computer like this and therefore the thermals are completely inaccurate for any real-world usage.
But, hey, being a youtuber earning thousands of dollars talking about GPUs is hard, okay?
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>>108267699
Are transients real or is it just something companies made up to sell you higher power psus than you need?
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>>108267969
ah i just want to use mine to test components, im not gonna test thermals or anything ill just change the thermal paste if it needs it
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>>108268002
They're real.
But also PSU Wattage isn't.

Wattage on a PSU just refers to amount of watts that a PSU is guaranteed to be able to convert consistently.
They can tolerate spikes and deliver power above their rating. It doesn't just cut off once your 850W is hit by a 851W load.
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>>108267914
>hit test bench accidentally
>probably stays in place
>hit motherboard resting on a newspaper accidentally
>probably falls onto the floor and breaks

and other such considerations
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yoda is a nigger?
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>>108268027
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QXg7Pf
>821 TDP
>1000w gold rated PSU
Should I worry?
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>>108268075
80+ gold rated*
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>>108267847
lol, lmao even
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>>108268075
get a higher wattage for transients or something thats highly rated for it, see op
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>>108267537
Va ghosting is not a big deal and nobody who owns a modern one complains about it.

Go ahead, overpay for some gimmick monitor just to satisfy your autism.

>>108268075
>another retard jewing out on his psu when paypigging for a 5090
go ahead, lmao, do it faggot. Also you'll want to source pvc dust mesh for the front of the case, antec flux pro is a great case but the size of the holes in the mesh is way too big, dust gets through ez.
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>>108268044
im not drunk enough to hit stuff accidentally most days
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How much are my 32GB of DDR5 (2x16GB) worth in euros rn?

i wanna sell, ive been offered 290€ so far which is about 9€/GB
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>>108268075
more than worry, absolutely do not do it.
i have a 1000w psu + 9800x3d + 5090 and load testing made it hard shut down. i undervolted the GPU and it hasn't happened since but the setup has *0* headroom. with a 9850x3d it will be even worse
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>>108268161
>pointless time-wasting question by not mentioning the specific model
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>>108268075
haha what kind of fucking idiot pays $5K for a GPU
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>>108268239
i didnt wanna dox myself

DDR5 Kingston Fury Beast RAM 32GB (2x16GB)
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bought a new PC
double the price of when I last got a new one in 2017
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Pular monitors not selling, very low hype for them
Initial stock did not even sell out and got topped up, even more now
People are not buying that shit
expect price drops eventually
people are hyping oleds only

>Flopsar

Anyone here tried it yet?
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motherfuckers will really pay an extra $30 for a different coloured internal component
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literally no point to a 1000hz monitor unless you're an absolute God of esports and want every possible advantage
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>>108268271
considering vsync without vrr is now usuable on 500hz oled due to the input lag, 1000hz will make vsync win? considering you just run vsync and no vrr for perfect motion?

>>108268099
>va glazer
literally the worst possible thing to shill, refer to post in last thread
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Does any other online retailer do bundles or is it just newegg?
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>>108268274
>considering vsync without vrr is now usuable on 500hz oled due to the input lag, 1000hz will make vsync win? considering you just run vsync and no vrr for perfect motion?
gibberish
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>>108268275
no other retailer on earth sells hardware in bundles, it's copyrighted
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>>108268279
A certain balding canadian man plays esports games with vsync on oled on due to the low input lag of oled
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any of you guys bought components off aliexpress? my buddy got an intel PC and it has worked well for him apparently but i have my doubts

>>108268254
adjusted for inflation?
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>>108268291
nah but even then
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>>108268274
>literally the worst possible thing to shill, refer to post in last thread
monitor-spec autists are almost as pathetic as audiophile fags who buy 1inch thick auxilary cables because they believe it gives them sexual powers. I don't care what you fags think about monitors past basic size, fps and feature-sets. Enjoy your burn-in sperg.
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>>108268271
I find it really odd how monitors at 4k resolution are being sold with 240hz/480hz dual mode options

like, no card on the market will get you 480 fps at 4k resolution, yet alone 240fps at 2k on ultra settings

beyond there -is- a difference between 120hz and 240hz, but its just insiginficant
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>>108268381
>my numbes are fucked but you know what i mean

why do you need 360hz at 4k when your graphics card cant do more than 150fps at ultra 4k
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How hard is it going to be to sell an unopened 9800x3d for like $425? Should I just wait until the promotion for Crimson Desert ends?
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>>108268397
even fishermen who dont use bait will catch a fish one day

gotta put your line down first though
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Reminder to waitfag until you make it.
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>>108268446
>>108264194
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>>108268446
nice bait waitcuck
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>>108268426
>will catch a fish one day
I wouldn't go that far. Probably more fishermen than fish with this market.
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>missed $400 9850x3d from jewegg
>was gonna buy it and sell my 9800x3d for $400 but nope
>decided to wait it out and see if newegg would do another chance at it or have another good bundle
>slept on already decent bundles
>now the bundles are getting worse or more expensive
Fuck it. I'll just buy it at full price. Maybe I'll just keep the 9800x3d in case the 9850x3d wants to magically short.
>inb4 hurr durr 2-3% improvement
gtfo with that gay ass reddit advice.
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>>108268537
>all this and more just when amd is also going to release a 12 core x3d chip on am5
subhuman
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>>108268545
Isn't that not until the end of the year?
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>>108268558
don't really care. i can wait. gonna buy one when they are available and cheap. no reason to buy a stop gap like the 9800x3d or 9850x3d just to later upgrade to a 12 core.
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>>108268574
>waitfagging this hard
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>>108268582
the cpus aren't going to run away. i already have one and it works just fine and is better than any intel chip with ddr4 or 5. what is the problem? not upgrading every time amd lets out a wet fart of a cpu with a 200mhz boost and 8 cores?
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>>108268592
I'm tired of waiting. You can wait all you want, but go be a fag about it somewhere else.
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waitfags get the rope and they dont get to wait for it
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>>108268605
>he can't wait so he wants to buy another 8 core x3d chip for an 5% gain in some slop game that runs at 720p
yeah totally not a "faggot"
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>>108268612
Please stop (You)ing me, I'm afraid I'll catch your gay at this rate.
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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrPpg3

I've applied some feedback I gathered from the other day(s). I don't care that I can save a few bucks here and there desu. The only feedback I'm looking for is improving the build.

My question: Is it worth going Intel for the increased memory speeds? It seems AMD can only handle 6000mhz for some reason? At that point it becomes a fight between speed and cache?

(don't suggest Nvidia, I don't want to encourage them with AI frame generation)
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>>108268622
>no argument
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There's really not much point to a 9800X3D over a 7800
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>got scammed on reddit
>tell person to kill themselves
>reddit account gets permanently banned

i think i know why children are literally shot to death on this planet now, there is no such as a good person
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>arguing with a faggot and a waitfag at that
lmao kek I accept your concession lol.
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Is it truly over if you lose power during a BIOS update?
I want to say I lose power maybe 2 times a year but it just happened randomly for no reason a few days ago like 2 weeks before I'm looking to build as I'm waiting on parts and now I'm shitting myself
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>>108268629
the thermalright phantom spirit 120 is better. logitech mice are shit. their scroll wheels and buttons break way too often for costing $100. get something better made and more reliable or cheaper so you can replace it when it breaks. get a hellhound or smth. the prime is dogshit.
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>>108268664
I agree with everything but what's wrong with the gpu?
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>>108268629
Nvid-
>don't suggest Nvidia
FUCK!

But for real, looks fine for the most part. Maybe a different case. If you don't mind a white case, the Corsair 4000D RS Frame is on sale for lower than the one you have selected and it comes with 3 fans.
I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with a 850w PSU if you want to save a few extra bucks. Not necessary though.

If your main goal is to play games on it I would stick to AMD. If you're planning to do some more productive things then maybe consider Intel. I'm pretty sure AMD can go above 6000mhz, I think it's a motherboard issue though. Honestly I just kept it at 6000mhz and haven't felt the need to bother.
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>>108268678
nta but the Prime series Asus' lowest tier, and I think I heard their 9070xt Prime runs a little worse than the other 9070xts out there. I don't think it's a big deal, but I have no personal experience and it just depends on how you feel about the issue. Plus I think you can still get the 9070xt Prime for $699 if you buy it directly from Asus if you've made an account with them and logged in. That's probably as low as you can go on a 9070xt these days.
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>>108268655
What was the scam?
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>>108268678
the prime is loud. cheap. asus tax (pay more get less) and has one of the lightest coolers with the least amount of heat pipes for its price. a friend got a prime and i had a swift which i returned because it was too loud and ran too hot and replaced it with a hellhound. his prime is also loud under load but he doesn't mind. i would.
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>>108268664
I'm convinced the big brand name mice are scams at this point. After years of getting fucked in the ass by razor and logitech I just grabbed what I assumed was some cheap knockoff for $25 when my razor inevitably stopped working again. And its every bit the same quality and feel and has lasted me over 3 years
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>>108268537
>>missed $400 9850x3d from jewegg
Same, and I had a 9800x3d too. I wasn't even going to bother until the assholes at AMD decide to throw out a promotion for Crimson Desert, a game I've been wanting to play, after I bought the 9800x3d and the retailer wouldn't give me a code for obvious reasons.
>inb4 "b-b-but the game isn't truly free!"
Yeah yeah yeah, they configured it into the price thanks professor "I just finished business 101 with a B+ :)", but things are still better in life when their free. It also came with a little electronic air duster so now I don't have to buy canned air from the store and get carded for it because dumb asses won't keep inhaling it because I've been too lazy to buy an electric one myself.
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>>108268681
I originally wanted a white build but didn't want to have to clean it so much

I was thinking about dropping down the psu but I figured why not just go for 1kw and use it for future builds

>>108268704
>>108268696
Take into account

I think it's nearing completion, just need to find a relatively cheap good mouse/mkb

I do play a lot of arena shooters so I was originally looking at how light the mouse is as I need to do flick shots

(I'm using it for other high end games too)
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>>108268711
>>108268724

endgame gear makes really well-made mice and they don't cost that much. they may not have the best specs or battery life but no creaks or cracks. also easy to take apart and replace the switches on and great shapes. the software is good too.
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fsr is getting a little bit sharper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlaWLnyY_l4
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>>108268629
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VrPpg3
get the PA phantom spirit 120 evo cooler instead
and get the 9070 xt mercury OC if you dont want nvidia gpu, that's the best 9070 xt, requires a big case, it's a big card
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>>108268724
>I originally wanted a white build but didn't want to have to clean it so much
I've never had a white case but surely it won't get randomly dirty just by sitting there. Unless they also start to yellow like the good ole days.
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>>108268724
>I originally wanted a white build but didn't want to have to clean it so much
get a white build. my dark desk is full of dust and everyone can see it. wasn't a problem on my white desk.
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>>108268744
>>108268724
definitely absolutely buy this white build flavour of the month trend you will absolutely not regret this purchase by next year when white builds are no longer cool

this is definitely not a marketing strategy by component manufacturers to force you to buy brand new parts once the appeal of an all white build wears off
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Best 9070 XT models for the price?
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>>108268771
Sapphire pure
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>>108268754
What is this schizo rant?
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>>108268771
mercury oc expensive
swift poor
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>>108268795
Shut up and enjoy your white plastic.
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>>108268800
>I never had a white case
Reading is a little hard for you, huh?
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wish they would make 15mm thickness 200mm fans, I don't think I can fit a 25mm fan on top of my xb haf evo using a 160mm cpu cooler
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>>108268771
hellhound is underrated since it has no lights, dual bios and six heat pipes. it's also quiet and looks good.
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>>108268806
*farts on your gay face*
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>MONITOR section of the OP
>1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), ASUS XG27AQWMG (WOLED but not yet in stores)
Can anyone dumb down monitors for me?
The top row is what I get searching the OP ones. Bottom row is if I just search generic "1440p monitor". The price difference is quite staggering and I don't know if I'd really "need" top of the line since I don't even know anything about monitors.

Really I just want a solid 1440p gaming monitor for as little as I'd need to spend to get it. That isn't say I want to cheap out and get something shitty just to save money, but I also don't want to pay hundreds more than I have to for some very small improvements.

What are the bare minimum or recommended specs I should look out for on a monitor to seriously considering buying?
Any standout brands that are very good to go with (or ones to avoid at all cost)?
And how much am I really losing if I go for a cheaper option?
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i'm sick of my bx500 being my boot drive and freezing all the time so i got an 870 evo. is there a way to just clone my entire install from one drive to another? macrium reflect?
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>>108268837
>The price difference is quite staggering

Buy cheap shit and see how good you feel about it afterwards.
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I'm sure china will attack taiwan if the iranians cause enough trouble from the goymutt-jewmaster pedophiles alliance, I'm so angry I didn't buy all the hardware I wanted before it would happen
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>>108268917
Buy it now retard. If it will happen it isn't happening right now.
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>>108268921
I don't have the money, already bought stuff
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>>108268917
What all do you need?
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>>108268771
Taichi is pretty good.
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>>108268945
ecc ddr4 for my 2 servers, hdds and coolers
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>>108268318
>you are a monitor sperg if you point out shortcomings of VA
>you are some sort of ascended extreme user if you point out short comings of VA
the fu-
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>>108268950
Probably fucked on the ecc ddr4 memory already, definitely getting fucked on the hdds, and probably okay on the coolers for now. Let's hope such things won't happen.
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Currently have a 3700x and a 6700 xt with 16gb ddr4. Given the current geopolitical affairs i am afraid in the near future there may not be components to be bought. Should i prioritize buying a 9070 XT or buy a new CPU and new mobo? I don't have money for the ram. I use Linux.
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>>108268971
get the gpu
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>>108268381
eShit games hit 480fps just fine
and the dual mode is 1080p since you don't even understand how they work
the point is motion clarity and input lag benefits

>but its just insiginficant
both are blurry but it's an improvement but still very far from clear

>>108268384
you know more games exist other than a singular AAA title at 4k, you know your windows desktop exists

>>108268655
that's what you get for buying used
stop being poor unironically

>>108268837
>solid 1440p gaming monitor
one of the ultra cheap qdoleds 400bux or an even cheaper ips for like 150bux
about it
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>>108269001
now show crt
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>>108269008
look at the example on the left
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>used 5800x3d is more expensive than a brand new 9800x3d
?????????!?!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?
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>>108268744
Does IKEA furniture yellow with age?
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>>108269070
Does IKEA furniture make it that far?
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How bad is an AMD 3900x paired with a 3090 in current year?
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Does Newegg keep track of which component they sold you? Let's say you bought a component, and if it's been opened, it goes on sale. So you decide to buy a new one under the price, but then return the new one as the old one. Would they check for this?
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>>108269107
People did this in smaller retailers in /my country/ I'm guessing systematically in a larger scam type thing, the end result is commiting a crime
but I guess in mega conglomerate goyslop retailers you can do this, until It becomes illegal aka they find out
>discussing how to scam

Stop being poor

>>108269070
>>108269095
nothing wrong with IKEA parts
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>>108269121
The real scam is not offering price adjustment like other retailers.
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Thoughts on the Flux Pro?
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>>108268653
i would buy one just for a reroll at a better imc but i have an asrock board and dont really feel like taking that risk.
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What do we think of the Magnus desk?
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>>108269186
go XL its larger
seems good but expensive
pretty sure you can get away with half the cost for a adjustable desk
dunno about quality on motors and stuff
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Any cool 'hacker' tech, I like the aesthetic. Think "hackerman" in Kung Fury. No I am not trolling.
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I'm a poorfag and managed to buy a 5090
The only flex is having a pro 6000 I'd say
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I'm gonna be a fag and buy a Hyte X50. Apparently it comes with no case fans though. What case fans should I get for it?
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>>108268229
I'm running 9800x3d + 4090 on a fucking 750W PSU and been doing so for more than two years now. No undervolting or power limit either. He'll be fine.
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>>108269186
gay as fuck and pales in comparison to a desk made from a real wood top attached to some adjustable height legs

cable management is so fucking lame, boo hoo waaa waaa eww there are some cables around my desk :(( how will i cope while gooning to anime
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>>108269344
>>108269186
I'll be honest I thought it was much more expensive, like $2500 for the desk.

I don't know, I find it hard to believe it's worth the price tag they charge, considering the company is made by shitty businessmen
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>>108269186
It's based as fuck. Wood is for gay edgelords still living in the 2010s. Cable management is based because it's gay as shit to see them around like an unkempt incel who goons to anime, and helps prevents something getting snagged on the cables and dragging something down.
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>>108269356
Why yes I much prefer some stamped chinese pig-iron mild steel over a custom sourced, planed, 100 year old oak tree

You have no taste and enjoy garbage.
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>>108269373
>$500 Stamped Chinesium
>$200:Finest Indian Plooywood
>$1670 Authentic Artisan Hipsterwood made by a gay couple in Vermont

Grim
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>blah blah blah I'm a gay nigger
Whatever, boomer.
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>>108269403
Money is worth the thing you buy with it.
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I'm all in on shorting RAM prices. Bulls on suicide watch soon.
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Redpill me on Miniled

Is it really THAT good?
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>>108267699
>>108267699
Any PSU recommendations? My setup is a 9800x3D/4080S, both heavily overclocked.
Current PSU is a 10 years old Gigabyte GH750 which I'm getting kind of weary of, I always avoid running tasks that max out both CPU and GPU just in case.

It's probably overkill but I was looking at 1000w PSUs just to be safe and hit peak efficiency, my options locally seem to be :
>NZXT C1000 ~180€
>Corsair RM1000x ~ 180€
>FSP Hydro Ti Pro 1000w ~220€
>Montech Century II 1050w ~110€

Not sure if there's much point going for such high end PSUs, would really appreciate some thoughts about it.
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>>108269481
1200w
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>>108268971
GPU. I've the same CPU and haven't noticed it being a bottleneck in games. I'll likely replace it with a 5700x soon but not really a priority.
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>>108269488
>>108269481
>1200w

my 285k 5070 ti is going to have a 1000w
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Time to see if Nevos Balm removes the tar.
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>>108269574
tar?
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>>108269481
Get a good 800W Seasonic, don't even bother with other brands.
Pic related is my setup, GPU overclocked + 25% power limit, hits 400W, CPU hits 140W~150W under full load with retarded PBO.
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>>108269587
Company smoker raped this HAF 932. Testing to see if these nylon bristles can dig into the hexagon mesh to dislodge the residue.v
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>>108269597
warm soapy water and and a lot of scrubbing should do it

i would be careful about using boiling water, i used boiling/scalding hot water hoping to clean a snes controller and the plastic melted
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I have a generic power supply made somewhere in Bangladesh or Manila. So far I don't think I have any problems right now. It's 18 years old. Should I replace it? Any psu you can recommended for under 15 USD
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>>108269597
>>108269605
nah, probably needs to be soaked in some weird chemical to dissolve the stuff
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Is it fine to leave a computer in storage if it has an AIO? Specifically it's a Corsair H100 that saw no issues in 8 years of use. I'm only keeping the old machine for nostalgia but if I throw away the cooler I'd have to spend money on a replacement at some point.
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>>108269597
For the love of god buy some purple power/simple green or whatever is similar and get it cleaned in less than an hour. You've been posting for weeks.
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>>108269619
I tried acetone and it worked but I never tried dish soap versus normal for a full scrub and submerge, didnt want to strip more of the powder coat since it protects against rust I think. I should have tried this first before going for the stronk chemicals.
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>>108268241
That price would be nuts I found it for $3050 with taxes and fees. Which is still nuts but new 5090s have seemed to start at $3700
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>>108269637
>purple power and simple green
I'll check those out assuming we have something similar if this doesn't work, my first piece seemed promising so far but a day in the sun will confirm that.
>You've been posting for weeks.
Working for less than 3 of those days actually testing due to irl reasons, let me cook something up here I might actually finish it this time.
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>>108269660
I've scrubbed 60 year old grime off engine blocks with that stuff. Some second hand smoke is child's play. Mix it only as strong as you need.
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>other monitor issues
>degrade your experience from minute 1 to the end of its life (which you don't know when that will be, could get a dead pixel the year after you bought it)

>oled monitor issue
>give you the best possible experience from day and only merely, possibly, probably, if you squint, begins to start being bad some unspecified time at least 3 years into the future, if ever, that you don't even know if you'll live to see

seems like common sense which is better it's really not even a question
no one else realizes how lopsided this issues comparison is?
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>>108269657
>it's a dogshit gigabyte model

HAHAHAHAAH holy shit
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>>108269641
I've cleaned up smokers houses before.

Can't remember what my company used but it was similar to some kind of oxyclean.
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>>108269709
What's dogshit about it?
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>>108269727
nothing that dude is just a bitter poorfag
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>>108269727
10°c hotter than the aorus master
gigabyte customer service
also has dogshit thermal putty that will need to be replaced sooner than other cards
+ no pin monitoring, if you don't go Astral you have to get a wireview on top

>>108269798
poorfags always go for the low end custom models though
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>>108269705
OLED is king. The monitor cost you $1.50 a day for it's glory. Just get a job or pick up change off the street to buy another one in four years.
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>>108269817
Putty last forever. The thermal paste will pump out years before putty fails.
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So I got an expensive high end PC, what do I play now?
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>>108269481
get a seasonic
they've nailed the 12vhpwr cable design on their psus. mine had nearly perfect current balancing on the first install and minimal vdroop (~0.130v at 600W) meaning it doesn't even get warm with the matrix 800W bios (~0.160v at 800W) which is pretty amazing
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>>108269905
>anecdotal evidence
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>>108269817
>poorfags always go for the low end custom models though

god forbid people buy things
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>>108269910
...is the best kind of evidence when it comes to consumer electronics
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>>108269891
requiem

battlefield 6

fuckin

that french game
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I need to take a break and ask a question.

Can we fix this bend, or is it fucked?
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>>108269929
yeah you can bend it back

it aint gonna be perfect tho
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>>108269910
Sorry you need a Youtube fag telling you what to buy. At least they make a profit off your dumb ass.
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>>108269921
Only when you gather a lot of them.
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>>108269936
>if you don't listen to unreliable anecdotal evidence then you are definitely listening to ecelebs instead!

logic leap of a braindead retard
no wonder a single, isolated comment is enough to convince you of anything
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>>108269929
you can always re-bend metal back, but the metal itself is stretched now, it wont hold perfect lines ever again.

if you can, warranty it or buy a new one. Rear panels are pretty important for gpu+motherboard stability. Jewing out here could cost you more long-term.
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>>108269923
well that doesn't sound very appealing...
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>>108269910
>>108269941
eh, i'm not here to convince you of anything, just sharing my 2 cents
im the anon who switched from a shitty atx2.4 rm1000i to the focus gx 1000w atx3.1 on my 5090 astral because the former's 12vhpwr cable was a mess which didn't balance unless I fiddled with it for >15 minutes, and even then, vdrooped by 0.260v and got warm at 600W near the PSU end
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>>108269934
>aint gonna be perfect tho
I just need to make sure that it sits reasonably straight on the floor, mounts fans, and lets the side panels on snugly without rattling. Corner impacts are no joke.
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>>108269975
the only PSUs I'd get are the asrock PG series that have a heat protection system, coupled with a wireview for uneven voltage shutdown
you don't need to change an entire PSU if the cable is shitty, just get a standalone cable, Corsair has good 12V ones
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>>108270003
corsair's type4 socket at the psu end is bad. it has too much play and the construction of their 12vhpwr cable also allows the pins to move a lot, like 1-1.5mm, by design. I've already tried 2 cables and they're systemically plauged with the same problem.

the only fix is to get an atx3.1 psu with a native dual ended 12vhpwr cable that's properly designed, which excludes MSI's since theirs seem to have issues with unplugging itself over time.
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>>108270021
>the only fix is to get an atx3.1 psu with a native dual ended 12vhpwr cable that's properly designed

So an AsRock PG-XXXX.
Granted, it's not a popular enough PSU to have any feedback on the cable unplugging itself or not but on paper it's perfect.
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>>108270042
asrock could be good, no idea. if someone with an astral tests it, then we'll know for sure.
all i'm saying is that seasonic is a known-good brand to me
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>two weeks ago re-seated my 12V2x6 cable
>have to do it again today cause one pin is past 9.2A
this cable is so shit to handle even with combs and the ASUS IVS cable is even worse cause pin 5 and 11 have a small branching cable on top making it even worse. I'll just buy a new one with a prebend 90 degree connector. I don't even know if this IVS shit does anything other than being a marketing gimmick and ASUS likely knows this otherwise they would sell replacement cables instead of telling you to buy another PSU.
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>>108270079
well I hope you got your 12V GPU for work because there are no games worth the cable headhache
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>>108270079
My 4090 has been plugged for two years with a fucking 3x splitter and I haven't touched it once since then
Don't be paranoid
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>>108270102
its schrodinger's connector
it might be melted when you remove it
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>>108270102
I have an Astral. I can literally see the ampere and know when they are too high
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>>108270079
asus is the chinkiest chink company
i'd only buy their motherboards and gpus at most and avoid all of their other electronic products
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Looking for budget OLED
anyone got something on Samsung G50SF LS27FG500SUXEN?
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When I get my 5070, I'm never unplugging the included adapter cable from Zotac from my Seasonic PSU's 8-pin connectors.
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Never messed with fan speeds before. What's the best settings to tune my case fans and my PS120SE fans so that way it's silent while idle but can keep my shit cool when I game? I'm just worried I'll set it wrong.
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Oh it's fucked, we might be fucked. This case may be only good for scrap if that can't be bent back. No way this won't cause problems for motherboard seating or risk structural tearing on components.

This was the first thing I should have checked when the case shipped last year, before I even made any attempt at decontamination or deriveting.
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>>108270334
If you reinstall the plate it will probably be straight. It's meant to be attached to something. Sheet meat does that.
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>PC stops having video/peripheral signals two months ago
>Replace PSU, no change
>Send it to repair shop
>They replace the CPU and remove the GPU (both died, probably dead before I replaced the PSU)
>They tell me it's working again
>Bring it back home
>Plug it into wall, turn it on
>RGB flashes for a brief moment, instant shutdown
>Try again, it boots up
>Still no video/peripherals
>Drain CMOS, no change
I just don't know anymore. Is the case's grounding fucked up or something? It's 13 years old.
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I live with my mom and I don't pay a cent
guess I'll buy myself a 5090 despite being paid minimum wage instead of investing
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>>108270470
Based. Though you should have bought in December.
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My fren has Pentium 3, 256 mb ram etc, samtron CRT and a related mouse and keeb. Is it ewaste?
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>>108270389
It was rattling before with the case assembled near the top, but I assumed that was due to a missing rivet and not because it physically bent forward and popped it out.

I'll have to assemble with screws and nuts to check for sure.
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>>108270418
maybe your house's mains is fucked
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>>108270213
samsung oleds
>bad plastic knob that breaks after use (bad samsung qc in general)
>insane matte haze coating

>>108269705
oled burn in isnt even an issue before all the things that are potentially bad with it that you have to deal with

>>108269450
>IPS/Va smear
>Can't be used on the desktop because weird text artifaccts
>Dimming algo varying from unit to unit (Pro tip they are all ass)
>Unsuable on TVs for gaming as they are all lcd and very slow
Niggas really get juked into buying this ass because of mah burn in?
I mean ok
It has brightness I guess is a thing, but OLED TVs have better brightness too

I guess it's better than edgelit because you get better uniformity even if its miniled or something but still
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>>108270642
I actually want a matte OLED
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>>108268259
it costs as much as a 5070 TI.
it's only an improvement for VRR.
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>>108269589
>>108269905
Seasonic has always been the enthusiast / prosumer option, no idea why people even recommend anything else.
They also manufacture a lot of PSUs for other brands and enterprise ones.
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I posted yesterday about getting crashes after a new gpu and tower switch, i reseated my RAM (ddr4 32x2 3200 mhz vengeance lpx) and then my computer just wouldn't boot but the dram error light was shining. I messed around a little and now the computer boots in the 1&3 slot. Two questions:
>Should it be fine to use the 1&3 slots? They're not the mobo recommended (mb b550 gaming plus)
>Does pic related look like corrosion and if so how do I fix it? I've blasted everything with compressed air so it's stuck
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Is buying a Gentle Typhoon clone still worth it in the current year over stuff like the Silent Wings 4, Phanteks T30 or Noctua NF-A12x25?
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>>108268381
aren't those monitors 240hz at 4k and 480hz at 1080p?
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>>108268537
please tell me you bought a 7800X3D too, and will buy the 11800X3D too.
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Vulkan is the future
DirectX Windows 11/12 is a deadend
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>>108270677
Seasonic is good but they aren't alone
I've based most of my decisions using the psu tier list and I've never been disappointed
you should get the cheapest good PSU you can find, not a [insert brand]
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>>108268629
>>108268664
I assume you've done enough research to know that you need a full sized motherboard, otherwise if you never plan on adding another NVME or PCI cards, you should consider a mATX board.
GPU probably doesn't matter, I would lean towards some of the AMD OG's though, like sapphire and powercolor.
monitor seems excessive. you can probably only max it out in esports on low and most monitors tend to look blurry when not operating near their maximum refresh rate. I would just go 240hz, especially since you'll have to replace it in 5 years because it's OLED.
check out glorious gaming brand, I bought a mouse from them and it's been good for the few years I've had it. sensor.fyi is a cool website.
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>>108270773
I'd rather pay 5-10% more and get known reliable with 12 year warranty.
I've been using Seasonic exclusively since around 2009 and never had one fail, meanwhile several in pre-builds or builds by others have that I've owned.

There's a reason people shill it even though it barely has any official advertising compared to others.
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>>108270678
It may be alright. Just see if it hold the overclock profile.
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>>108270812
I started the computer using 1 and 3 and now i just get critical process died bluescreens again, so it seems the ram was sort of a separate issue. Fuck.
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>>108268659
help
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>>108270822
Did you put your old GPU back in?
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>>108269008
if crt is so good why does it not exist?
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>>108269186
seems fine for a single monitor setup.
cramped with 2+ monitors.
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>>108270842
CRT is heavy and large
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>>108270835
No, haven't tried that yet. Given that the bluescreens are now instant after motherboard boot, before I could at least almost reach the desktop and dick around in safe mode a few minutes, you have any idea what the issue could be? If it's my m2 ssd getting totally corrupted i will kill myself, i have 4 years of files on that thing and I don't think I backed them up enough.
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>>108269625
I wouldn't.
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>>108268629
the 3000D is an okay tower, but its pretty boring and barebones, maybe look at a TRYX or HYTE tower.
Intel is shit, stick with your choice on AMD, if no products are DOA, you will not have to upgrade the cpu at all for the next ~5+ years without any issues at all.
My last Sennheiser was dogshit, i recommend HyperX cloud headsets at that price point, my AudioTechnica m50x USB is godtier for me however, especially once i replaced the earpads with better aftermarket ones.
Your choice of monitor is a bad meme at that price point, get an ultrawide if you're only going for 1 monitor, and get a ~180hz max one too, 500hz is stupid, most games wont even output that fps at the engine level.
Spending $800us on a 26.5inch monitor is just masochism to me.

Based choice on going all AMD, aside from me also being anti-ASUS good choices for the most part.
My only other nitpick, is i personally don't like putting all data, gaming and the OS on one drive, i compartmentalise into multiple drives to keep a level of redundancy. I have dedicated drives for data, the OS+essential drives, and gaming. Works great for me.
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>>108270859
Try removing everything extra possible. GPU, SSD, HDD, USB devices, and see if it boots. Just boot drive and RAM. Then if it works add components till it fails again.
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>>108269705
TN is obviously superior. who gives a shit about angles when you sit in your chair in front of the monitor?
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>>108270859
get another set of ram to test with if you own anything from the DDR4 era. Or put your current ram into another computer to see if it boots.

Still seems like either your ram is fucked, your mobo ram sockets are fucked, or both. Bad time to have fucked ram, if you lived near me, i'd just give you a set for free gathering dust in my closet but whatever.
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>32gb ddr5 4800mhz ram
>bought for $330
should i sell this at a higher price or use it bros
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>>108270910
I doubt you would make much off of that.
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>>108270892
TN/VA are the best for those who respect their dollars, the ghosting issue is just shilling and paranoia, imagine buying a monitor where you have to stress about just using it, and forever staring at parts of the screen, fearful of burn-in.

Its antithetical to being a pc master race user, buying something doomed to die, at a premium no less.

>>108270910
stop asking this question, just use it, its not even good ram.
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>>108270678
where did you read you're not supposed to use 1/3?
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Been on a 1080p pc for the last decade+ over my last 2 builds. Finally upgrading and will be able to easily handle 1440p.
But going from 1080p to 1440p I'll need some new monitors (or at least one for my main gaming display, second one is whatever). What's the best way to go about a monitor upgrade?
>1) keep using 1080p with my current monitors after the upgrade, buy 1440p monitor(s) when there's a good deal
>2) get a cheap/budget 1440p monitor for now, upgrade to a better one on black friday or when there's a good deal, then use the old one of my secondary
Do monitors even get good discounts or is it like all the rest of the parts in current year
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>>108270910
>>108270916
oops meant to say 64gb

>>108270917
then why does it cost me my kidney
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>>108270825
just take it to a shop if you want to be a little bitch.
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>>108270858
so gay and fat.
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>>108270926
1440 is a stop gap.
1080 or 2160.
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>>108270825
Every PC owner should have a UPS.
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>>108270943
1440p is the tranny resolution.
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>>108270943
4k is dumb if you play competitive multiplayer
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>>108270926
embrace the light anon. Throw your 1080poverty monitors in the trash where they belong.

monitors get discounts, but nothing worth waiting for. Get a nice ultrawide.

>>108270927
>then why does it cost me my kidney
because you were a waitcuck, and you deserve to suffer.
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>>108270972
>720poverty
>1080poverty
>1440poverty
>2160poverty
>2880poverty
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>>108270972
>ultrawide

RUMAOOOOO
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>>108270888
Tried my old 2x8 ram sticks, changed to my old gpu, used the 1&3 slotd it didn't work any better. At this point it seems that either the windows boot files are corrupted (okay) or my hard drive is fucked (catastrophe). I might try windows repair options but I need to read up on them so I don't wipe my shit.
>>108270894
as i said RAM seems to be fine, but i honestly wouldn't mind shelving out $1k if the alternative was the wiping of my files.
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>>108270990
There isn't a single mass-market desktop monitor above 2160p right now.
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>>108270996
how many funko pops do you own, rabbit-kun?

>>108271005
bruh, get another motherboard. maybe your cpu is fucked too, do you have any friends who have last-gen pcs who can help you irl?
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>>108271006
are you sure about that?
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=512002880
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>>108267699
have not yet begun my research. hoping to gather some initial feedback and opinions.
my budget is $5-7k, but i'd be willing to go up to $10k if it made a significant difference
country is USA
my use case is twofold:
1. mirroring and regularly compiling a massive codebase (think chromium, AOSP, etc.)
2. hosting and performing inference "training"/optimization on moderate to higher end LLMs
i will never be using the machine for anything other than this, so i can strip out anything that would help with gaming, crypto mining, etc. i care about literally nothing other than the two use cases i listed

i'm going to be building it all effectively from scratch, so i'm open to suggestions on basically everything: brands, expense ratio between GPU and CPU, points of diminishing return, etc
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>>108271018
ah yes shark are preys now
I'd snap your neck with one hand too
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>>108271018
Don't have any friends with old pc parts and I really don't want to start buying replacement parts without knowing if it's even the issue, especially for annoying shit to change like mobo or pcu. I do have an old SSD from windows 7 and I think it was my boot drive, so maybe I should plug that in?
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>>108271036
probably r9 9950 and rtx 5090.
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>>108271047
every person i befriended online and met irl were confused and somewhat intimidated but sure, whatever helps you cope about your shitty, small monitors kek.

>>108271049
give it a shot if you're dead sure its not the ram/mobo. Which it probably is, did you ever defrag your OS drive? you're never supposed to defrag ssds/m.2s.
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>>108271018
>place one monitor in front of you
>place the second monitor to the right or left of the main monitor
wow that was hard
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>>108271059
that is pretty much exactly what i had been looking at so far, although i had selected the 9950X3D because i know nothing about hardware (i'm a software only fag) and generally assume more expensive = better
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best esports monitor?
I don't think I need more than 240hz but I want 0 motion blur.
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>>108271069
PPI is far more important than monitor size since size is relative to how far you are from the screen
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>>108271089
x3d is extra cpu cache which the benefits are mostly realized in gaming. some professional programs benefit from the added cache but I'm not sure which ones.
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>>108271097
just buy oled

gsync pulsar and dyac for certain cases
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>>108271101
ppi is based on resolution and size though. so how can you say size matters and size doesn't matter in the same sentence?
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>>108271059
2x 5090s
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https://youtu.be/xeqf8OUBcmk
tl;dw, oled > pulsar, because color and response time. only reason to buy pulsar is because you are worried about burn in.

now I need to find somebody who compares TN v Pulsar v OLED.
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>>108268855
Maricum works. Get a gen4x4 nvme ssd. Bx500 is garbage.
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>>108271121
because a "big screen" by itself doesn't mean anything, and all big screens that aren't TVs just have shit ppi
the first ultrawide with actual good PPI will be a 34' 5k2k
I'm sure there are some but none of them are oled though
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>>108271005
Have you also checked to make sure you got all your MB standoffs in the right spot. You can have one off and short out the board. At this point your MB seems like the problem or cpu.
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>>108267699
Spent 50$ on this Gigabyte MZ32-AR0 motherboard to have it shipped from someone on Facebook marketplace, who had no idea what it was. He got it from a friend who owned a data center throwing it out. And he shipped it to me, in a used Amazon box with newspapers as padding, with a random server psu in it too, and a free floating heatsink. There was no cpu cover. It came with bent pins galore. I wrote it off as soon as I saw the damage. He offered a full refund. I declined, told him I knew it was a gamble. Spent all night working on it. Even bought a special magnify glass stand to go and try to fix some pins thinking i would need too. Some how, some way. I got it to fully boot. That's like $800 for $50. Starting to think 50% of the pins in a motherboard are redundant. Stressed for 10 hours, no wobble
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>>108271069
No, never, unless there was some setting that turned itself on that did so regularly. Since there seems to be an issue with the ram slots maybe me installing the driver fucked up windows files because the ram messed with it and now it can't boot?

PS: i just realized i have my old mobo + cpu in the closet, i have swapped out my psu, mobo, cpu, gpu, ram, hard drive and case since 2022 so i can build an entirely new PC, use it to back my shit up if the m2 still has it and then do whatever the fuck i want! Holy fuck i think it's coming home lads
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>>108270701
Ball bearings in that fan is a no if you're a fan noise schizo.
Gentle Typhoons were originally designed as server fans.
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Man I'm too scared to sell my 4090 I think I'll actually keep it in case my 5090 die or something
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>>108271083
>wow that was hard
>i love my small monitors i have to swivel my head to look at, and refocus my eyes!

>>108271101
thats why you need 1440p yea, its a good thing that they can't stretch pixels sideways, which is what you seem to be implying with your autistic response.
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>>108271142
https://youtu.be/n-mw3bP93ew
tl;dw, oled > tn, color. motion blur is the same but it's only on the more expensive dyac2 zowie monitors that can compete with oled.
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Ignore this little poverty faggot >>108271198 who thinks he knows something about quality displays when he's using a budget AOC 1440p VA ultrawide monitor.
He has 0 experience of owning good display panels, his last monitor was an Acer trash heap.
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>>108271228
>triggering some monitor-phile retard soo hard, he remembers my fucking life story because i live rent-free in his head, months later
I love how salty you are anon, i don't remember you at all, are you the paypig with a 4090 who thinks he's hot shit too? kek
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>>108271245
Stay in your poorfag AOC VA lane, you have 0 credibility.
Not to mention this retard paid full price for one of the loudest 7900 XTX model ever released.
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>>108271253
so you're not only talking out of your arse, you don't even have a 4090 to brag about? kek.

>0 credibility
i've been gaming on pcs for well over 25 years, i have irl friends with gaming rigs of varying quality, i have plenty of comparisons to work with, and i was converted to the church of Ultrabased by a friend with a much worse ultrawide than mine.
I could upgrade to a better one tomorrow, but i have no reason to, as this one works great and its not OLED so it runs as well as the day i bought it.

My merc also works fine, as i manually adjust the fan speeds, its in a quality case so the noise isn't bad anyway, and i have a good headset with noise cancelling.
You seem really upset, you gonna cry now or what? I know you're too big a pussy to post your poverty-rig, so post your hand, you read like you're very brown.
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>>108271295
Yes people, listen to this seething retard who's justifying of running a 1440p budget ultrawide VA AOC with a MSRP XFX 7900 XTX.
This shithead obviously knows what he's talking about.
My Big Beautiful Country doesn't want your trash monitor.
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>'I have friends IRL!'
Sure you do, lmao. The insecurity is palpable.
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>>108271151
thank you, i will get an nvme ssd later but for now i'm just gonna put it on the sata 870 evo. i've actually got an nvme wd black sn850x in there as well, but i have some video editing stuff on it that i'm too lazy to move, unless the difference between it and the 870 evo is crazy.
and yeah, the bx500 sucked dick. i'm kind of grateful for it because it was a nice price for a poor student, but that was 6 years ago now and it's brought me a lot of suffering constantly freezing my whole system when any disk usage is happening
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>>108270274
any 600$-ish 1440p 27" OLED that works well with linux?
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I still dont get the hype about oled
>ips looks great and you literally never have to worry about burn in, can turn the brightness a bit lower to counter the "bloom" effect
meanwhile oled
>requires constant babying with turning brightness annoyingly low which makes things look shitty
>having to turn your monitor off any time you're going to be away for a bit
>having to use other pixel saving software to compensate
>might still get burn in after 3 years if you play any games with static huds

Meanwhile I've had my ips set to a really high brightness and I leave my PC and monitor on when I sleep and no burn in after 9 years of use.
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Is there actually any merit to these "all 3090's will eventually fail" cases or is it all just FUD for people not undervolting, power limiting, and keeping their GPUs under 70-80c?
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>>108270470
Buying 5090 is investing
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>>108271142
>>108271221
https://youtu.be/17taCHBoGpk
and I've seen a few videos like this, where people prefer the 1080 zowie panels for cs/valorant, but the 1440 oled is better for everything else.
also interesting about this video is the guy has a 7800x3d and 4070ti and can't even maintain 600 fps in valorant at 1080p.
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>>108271417
That's what they say, that the card has insufficient vrms
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how do I make my RX 7600 stop fucking crashing
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>>108270713
yes
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>>108271523
We told RDNA3 card owners before, people like (you) bought a buggy GPU and some games are going to reveal the hardware flaws.
That GPU architecture is hot shit when the monolithic RX 7600 GPU is experiencing crashes to this day.
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>>108271539
that reze and cat posts are me, unironically
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>>108271523
disable your overclock.
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>>108271552
3090 uses 8 pins...
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>>108271555
Don't talk to retards. It never ends well.
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>>108271549
Sell that pile of shit or downclock the GPU boost frequency.
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like 1 month ago i got an rx9060xt (i had a gtx 1660 super before)
would this be good enough to support it?
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EH8g1Ws
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>>108269574
>>108269597
Tried orange oil yet? The stuff that solves fat and even glue.
Alternatively (cheaper) Turpentine.
And dishwasher?
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>>108271555
NTA 3090 FE uses a 12VHPWR
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>>108271568
you're buying a gpu stand for a 2-slot card?
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somewhere there was a massive table made by autists documenting every power supply and its overall quality with notes about common user issues and other stuff
i cannot fucking find it, i cant see it in the op either, does anyone know what im talking about
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>>108271634
Could be this, it's outdated.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
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>>108271667
wasnt that, it was literally an excel sheet i think
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>>108269105
Zen 2 is less than ideal for gaming these days regardless of GPU due to CCX plus CCD cache splits.
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I did not realize OLED consumes as much power as a CPU.
this is literally just techtuber technology for people dumb enough to have 5090s and 2 KW desktop setups.
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>>108271727
will never buy an oled, dont care how much it apparently changes my life when i see the color quality.
the fact it still has a burn-in issue makes it dogshit. ill consider it when they fix that
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>>108271748
that's another thing wrong with it. this is tech for CONSOOMERS.
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>>108271295
anyone who can tolerate VA is retarded lol
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>>108271748
>ill consider it when they fix that
not possible to fix thanks to the O in OLED
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>>108269166
No dust filters in the front and side panels, only in bottom. Has no wheels and no option to install wheels, will be near impossible to move once packed with heavy hardware. Also no metal panel option. I considered it temporarily when looking for a case that can take an ALF3 420 in top, ended up with a ProArt PA602 Wood Edition Metal Panel. No regret. Required some customization but is perfect now.
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>>108271772
doesnt have to be oled. something with the color quality and inky blacks of an oled, without the fact its ruined if i leave my pc on overnight, which i do all the time
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>>108271748
I feel like OLEDs are only worth it for TVs or if you only really use your PC for gaming exclusively. I couldn't imagine using one to shitpost for hours.
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OLED is simply the best, back when my Switch OLED was my only OLED device I willing chose to play several multiplats games on it instead of on my PC with an IPS monitor
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>>108271790
>xhe owns a nintendie product as an adult male
>xhe also prefers 20 fps to 120+
opinion discarded.
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>>108271727
50-70w is not a lot. Halogen and Incasadent light bulbs use the same amount. So does your AMD CPU system at idle. Using the microwave for 30s is way more power than your monitor.
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thoughts?
why are there no 2160 TN? at least none that are in stock. I guess because TN has found its niche as the gaming panel, and gamers don't care about resolution?
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>>108271332
>>108271318
brown, sad and mad, lmao. I look forward to the next time my banter makes you cry. Seethe at my superior pc and genetics :)

>>108271727
if power costs are high in your part of the world, this is something to be concerned about i suppose. But its really not that big a deal anon, and i say that as someone who memes on OLED.

>>108271766
another monitor-phile, yawn.
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>>108271801
the weakest one is 50W. I don't use any of that other tech you're crying about except an AMD CPU.
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>>108271806
what kind of crack do you have to be on to want a 4k TN panel
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>>108271823
so 4k is a meme resolution?
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>>108271817
I live off-grid.
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>>108270701
just get noctua
i still have ancient gentle typhoons but after a decade theyre sounding like server fans
noctuas have been aging more gracefully imo

also noctua better with warranty

if you dont believe me i can post pics/im also OP
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>>108271806
No, because gamers that are willing to shell out for a 5090 for high refresh rates at 4k skip straight to OLED. OLED is better than LCDs in basically every way except burn in, but, if you're already lighting money on fire, why care about burn in.
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>>108271818
everything in your fucking houses uses more power than 50-70w.

you vacuum your dirty as fuck virgin palace right? thats between 500-1500w.
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>>108271832
4k and TN just have very different audiences
i dont know what use case youd enjoy having both
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looking for a seasonic vertex px 1200w
out of stock or unavailable everywhere. i thought it was one of their mroe recent releases, is it EOL or something?
my psu is fucking dying after 9 years.just looking for the next unit to carry me another decade
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>>108271817
The monitor is one of the most important PC interface, and you're bragging about your entry level VA-smear AOC.
You are the one with brown standards, and I'll be happy to call you out for the coping shithead you are.
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>>108271142
nobody knows if jewfus fucked up by running it at ulbm mode instead of pulsar with vrr on due to running it at 360hz

>>108271390
>9 year old IPS panel
>glazing ips in current year
actually keking

>>108271727
I am laughing hard as hell

>>108271806
va took over the ultrapoor segment that tn had before
even worse actually
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>>108269041
It's just because people do a calculation and think they can get away cheaper by keeping their AM4 motherboard and DDR4 RAM instead of buying new. This may be true but you oc would get much better value with AM5, even with a slower CPU than that, faster games and productivity and a future upgrade option. I still own and use a 5800X3D in a secondary PC, it's the holy grail of gaming on AM4 but only worth getting under 300 bucks in my opinion. You get decent AM5 boards for 150-200, a 7800X3D for 300 and 32GB of DDR5 from 250. It doesn't make sense to pay 640 for a 5800X3D.
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>>108268558
>>Isn't that not until the end of the year?
2027 at the earliest
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>>108271842
>WAH WAHH WAHH
>INSULTS
sorry OLED salesman. I am energy conscious and your monitors consume more power than my fridge and my satellite internet. keep coping about your excessive spending habits instead of talking about the point, which is that OLED consumes more power than LCD.
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>>108271852
Seasonic might be focusing on higher margin Prime TX & more affordable Focus/Core PSUs for everyone else.
There's plenty of competition for a higher-end, Vertex-tier PSU for PC gamers.
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new bread

>>108271872
>>108271872

migrate when you want

also convince me in the next thread not to buy the $130 Dell 27" 240Hz IPS monitor
its fucking tempting
i need to find a blurblusters review
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>>108271841
I think that's the real point. excessive spending habits.
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>>108271843
4k without motion blur or burn-in of OLED.
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>>108271883
the ppi will look like straight ass
I would rather buy a 300 bux 4k ips or something
but if you are ultrapooring it and need a gaymen monitors i dont see why
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Is it wrong to say the seething about OLED is more the fact its being talked about in enthusiast/performance circles rather than LCD?
LCDs are cheaper than ever, yet it's bitching and moaning about OLED.
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>>108271883
1080p should not go past 24".
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>>108271883
I've said it before >>108265167 , it's a 27" 1080p monitor.
Buy it if you don't care about that atrocious pixel density (81 PPI vs 92 PPI 24" 1080p or 109 PPI 1440p 27").
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>>108271895
no it's because every time you try to discuss LCD monitors a bunch of faggots start flaming you and telling you to buy an OLED.
I have purchased 2 monitors in 20 years. why the fuck would I want an OLED?
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OLED or nothing, simple as
I've tried everything and honestly playing on OLED has been more impressive to me than going from a RTX 2060 to a 4090
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>>108271877
>Prime TX
doesnt seem to have any listings in stock either. what the fuck even is their current lineup thats available
the focus stuff is fine but i was hoping to get the best possible unit and just never think about it again for over a decade. i dont mind the premium tax
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>>108271891
low ppi is fine for old people like myself

when you get old, you wont care about dot pixel density as much

i got the power, just dont care for squinting at 4K and having to scale the OS weirdly

>>108271897
i sorta agree but ive been using 27" 1080p for a decade and its fine
thats why if i ever get 4K/1440p, i must get 32+"

>>108271898
dumb frogposter but you have valid pro cons


ill let the thread know if i go full retard and buy it, you can laugh at me if i do, i will do it for the team
gonna sit on this decision for a week
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>>108271890
is IPS motion blur really that bad?
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>>108271907
If you're in the US, Seasonic may have deprioritized the region due to tariffs.
They are also pivoting to enterprise (AI) customers.
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>>108271908
my biggest gripe with my 4k monitor is that it's 27". this is a 1440p screen size. I don't even think 32" would be big enough for 4k desktop.
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>>108271908
>low ppi is fine for old people like myself
if anything the older you get the better monitor you need to avoid eye strain
higher ppi and not looking at shit would help
I'm old and I forgot how bad anything below 140ppi actually looks
standard 1440p 27" 105ppi looks like fucking ass too honestly
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>>108271914
The motion blur won't matter for most people unless you've experienced CRT/Plasma TVs before.
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>>108271916
UK customer, i dont know if that makes it better or worse. everything just seems out of stock from seasonic.
the only 1200w units available are just rebranders like NZXT and MSI. not really ones i trust
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>>108271920
ive never considered eye strain
i think you've convinced me in that regard

i will save up for a 4K 32" OLED and i hope that shit isnt ass when memorial day rolls around

i gotta save up
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>>108271903
You're asking people who care about the new thing about old thing.
If you're still content with LCDs there is very little out there that would leave you disappointed.
Doubly so if you are holding on to monitors for 10 years average.
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>>108271914
it's worse than my 1080 TN panel. I don't like the colors either. dark scenes are too dark, bright scenes are too bright, and you can't discern any details in either environment when I had no problems with my washed out TN.
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>>108271926
The new Fractal PSU is made by Seasonic, but it probably has Focus/Core tier internals.
https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/zardon/fractal-ion-3-gold-1000w-psu-review/all/1/
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>>108271926
Look at FSP Hydro PTM
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>>108271927
current 4k oleds also are less sharp than true rgb lcds
look way better than 1080p or 1440p though
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>>108269107
they don't check or track shit and fuck you if you're a scammer
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>>108269657
It's amazing people sell shit like this on ebay and it goes fine but I almost get scammed over 10 times less money
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>>108268754
> you will absolutely not regret this purchase by next year when white builds are no longer cool
I did two builds in white Silent Base 802 with metal panel and never regret it. Timeless design like a LIEBHERR fridge will keep its cool forever! I wonder how much cringe adolescents suffer with their aquariums and immature bling when they grow up.
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>>108271985
people are less likely to notice or care about small expenditures.
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>>108271960
never heard of that brand, are they their own manufacturers or a new brand or something?
either way, same result. i dont know whats going on. only available option i can find is almost £300 which seems a bit excessive
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>>108272005
FSP has been around forever
Considered on the same teir as Seasonic, Superflower, etc
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>>108272017
good to know, dont know why i never knew. can include that in my search as least
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>>108272005
they make OEM but recently you couldve gotten lots of FSP hydro (best on the market) 1k watt over the holiday
stock seems depleted

also seasonic had a lot of good deals for PSUs on woot but again you missed the window since last month, 3 months of deals since nov to jan

https://www.amazon.com/FSP-Modular-10-Year-Warranty-HG2-1200-G5T/dp/B0CNBFGVQT
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>>108272043
thanks, seemed to find something worthwhile. converting to usd, its not that much more expensive
im mostly baffled that theres a psu brand on par with seasonic and superflower that i never heard of.
if im being baited into a dogshit power supply ill be very mad at you anons
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>>108272097
Check hwbusters.com in OP
I pulled a result from one of the 1200w best PSU categories
FSP at least has a decent warranty here unlike foreign support Super Flower
Be quiet has questionable warranty

I like Corsair but you'll be paying a premium for 1200w

Again don't take my word, look up reviews bro
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>>108271823
Muh spreadsheets would benefit immensely from more work area, or more legible numbers. At home I use two LCD monitors, 1920x1080 and 1600x1200, the latter in portrait mode.
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>>108271917
27" is perfect for desktop and with 4k you just get very good pixel density.
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>>108272097
my new dream rig uses a 1000w FSP hydro, no issues so far.
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>>108271917
4k is for 32 inch imo

27 is too small for 4k. resolution for ants-tier
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>>108267699
>Multiple manufacturers report issues on AM5 platforms.
I thought it was only ASRock?

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