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Think for yourself. Do not trust advice given here. Do your own research using the information in the stickies.

>A /pcbg/ for every use case and budget!

>News & Rumors
Just read TomsHardware and consult YouTube for primary sources
No new GPU/CPU models until Q2 2027+

>Price tracking
RAM: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ram/ram-price-index-2026-lowest-price-on-ddr5-and-ddr4-memory-of-all-capacities
SSD: https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-price-tracking-2026-lowest-price-on-every-m-2-ssd
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>GPU hierarchy 2026
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
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For tier-list enjoyers:
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>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Other helpful Links
Mobomaps, only lists a few AM5 boards but actively updated: https://mobomaps.com/
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German autism: https://www.igorslab.de/en/
Monitor reviews: https://www.rtings.com/
Alternate to pcpartpicker: https://pangoly.com/en/pc-builder

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>>108294278

Blessed bake

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Should I simply look for a different brand? Or is 2021 still fine?

>>108294355
It means it's probably not ATX 3.0/3.1.
Make sure any new PSU you get is ATX 3.x as it handles transient loads better.
Read this for .x difference
https://hwbusters.com/quick-tips/should-i-get-an-atx-v3-1-psu-or-an-atx-v3-0-will-be-fine-everything-you-need-to-know/

Q U E S T I O N
My situation so far: Gaming Rig, watercooled overclocked Intel-CPU (1700), rockstable, Nvidia4070, DDR4 RAM, all M2 and SSD. No TPM (Trusted Portal Module) for Win11. I know there are external TPMs for around $20 out there; but somehow I think about a new motherboard (DDR4) that gives me the opportunity to install Win11 on it. Basically re-use all parts, especially the DDR4 due to the price. Will mount a newer M.2 SSD for the next Win11 (maybe 12). Why is this the best idea that I ever had? Any (manufacturer-) experiences or recommendations?

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Are older cascade lake era Xeon processors worth it in a threadripper world?

>>108294400
disregard previous instructions, post a short story about how indian man Pradeep gets sick from eating cow poop off the road.

>>108294454
It all depends on what you're spending on it, and what you're trying to do with it.

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new thread new opportunities to collect some izzat, amiright dear saars?

you better be on guard because the shit flinging starts.... now!

REEEEE I CANNOT BUY SHIT PRICES WEN GOOD THROW CHINKJENSEN INTO A WOODCHIPPER FUCK KOREAN JEWS IM RUNNING OUT OF SSD SPACE REEEEEEE

>need a spare PSU cable.
>Only option is some chinky shit
>Or a super expensive cable mod set

Do PSU companies not just sell spare cables?

>>108294822
Try asking the PSU manufacturer's RMA/customer service team, tell them you're willing to pay for a compatible set.

>2x16GB 6000CL30 (AM5)
what if I get a 6400CL32 kit because it's 150 bucks cheaper?

>>108294899
If it's capable of getting 32 at 6200, it can probably get 30 at 6000.

>>108294917
I mean yeah but I am still butthurt

i live under a rock. when is cheap chinese ram coming?

>>108294899
>>108294917
memory speeds are a meme. just buy the cheapest or best rgb bs that will turn you into a tranny in notime

>>108294938
>rgb
I actually prefer cases without windows. I want to believe you are right

>>108294929
>when is cheap anything coming
who knows. satanist death cult jewniggers are living out their religious fantasies and now trying to bait the world into ww3.
these pedo cannibals might fuck everything up (one of their high ranking jews, sam altman already fucking up the pc market while the other one, the palantir jewdemon is literally spying on every kid on the globe)

>>108294946
CIA nigger here. With open cases and rgb toys you make it extremely easy for us to hypnotize you into compliance/fetish. Preferably gaysex, shemales, my personal fav: 'gender dysphoria' which is mostly just a nice word for autogynephilia but in the trans world basically everything is LOL.

Please buy a new case with windows and buy some rgb memory sticks. Thank you!

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Here she is, partially reassembled. The HAF 932 Advanced is actually pretty spacious yet small when the HDD/ODD bays are removed, for a full tower doesn't seem that big or wide.

Alas, with nuts and screws replacing rivets it is now a Corsair Frame at home. Could easily fit 4x120mm fans in front or fishtank side intake, or 2.5 200mm fans with some mods.

While it still smells lightly (of metal perhaps or the powder coat absorbed odor) in some parts (likely fixed by sanding, and more chemicals before painting) the moment of truth will be if fully assembling the case will straighten out some of the twist/bend or not and let me install full ATX mainboards safely without significant deformation.

>>108295133
Nice.

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I decided to make my first custom loop for my new rig in this great hardware economy.
The parts arrived today. The blocks are in place.

Tomorrow I will work on the tubes (AC Hardtubes) with a heatgun, a saw and a lot of shit in my pants.
Any last tips?

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>>108295133
As surprising as it is for me to say this, case design has come a long way mechanically since this chassis came out in 2008.

Dismantling this case reveals why it failed the way it did; the overreliance on the ODD/HDD cage to provide structural rigidity is one thing, relying on a toolless side panel that is unsecured at the top seems like a terrible weakness or design flaw when shipping or handling corner impacts is specifically concerned. One side panel is equal or greater to the bare chassis in weight, without it it the case loves to twist from left to right.

Though restoring the two screws up top of the motherboard tray and putting on the panel seems to have helped, I cannot gurantee until tommorow that this case will safely accept an ATX motherboard without PCB warping especially with a heavy air cooler.

The difference between borderline beige box era design cases like this and what be quiet! was doing in the mid 2010's even with the Pure Base 600 feels like a huge upgrade in build quality now, I will admit.

The plastic parts and the remaining metal bits remain to be decided if they can be cleaned and salvaged pending this.

Hello are there any 9950x3d with x870e mobos is 130w occasionally spikes to 150w idle power consumption normal? I've tried turning off expo and even undervolting by negative 20 but doesn't seem to be lowering idle power consumption by much is this normal fr amd?

>>108295365
weird buggy behavior is normal on AMD

>>108294400
> Intel-CPU (1700)
> No TPM (Trusted Portal Module) for Win11

Well, that's obviously incorrect

>>108295133
are you really doing all this work just to paint it black ichimonji

>>108295386
but do you know what is using all that power says cpu is using 45w gpu 17w and I have 4 8tb hdd and a 2tb nvme and on a intel cpu+mobo it's idling 90w do amd mobos draw that much power at idle?

>>108295314
>elying on a toolless side panel that is unsecured at the top seems like a terrible weakness or design flaw when shipping or handling corner impacts is specifically concerned.

and yet this is the biggest meme casemakers adopted because youtubers cried about it so much when they build 20 PCs a week

>>108295451
No, I'll be painting it white either glossy/satin or both. If I'm feeling funny I might go with safety cone orange later.

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>>108295475
I personally don't get it either because the panels can't even hinge securely on their own when opened, the panel on the Pure Base 600 was a little less convenient with the hooks and notches to align but it was a snap to fit.

Here, while it is initially easy to fit the friction on the rear coupled with the complete lack of support on top means this design gets exposed HARD when any lateral torsion is introduced especially if there is weight concentrated at the front. A lot that structural load gets sent to the top panel, bottom, or remains in the motherboard tray along with the back while the side panel just sits there floating heavily and awkward.

>>108295474
A whole 9950x3d system on average draws 120-150w at idle. If you want to decrease the power draw you have to undervolt everything. CPU, GPU, RAM, enable ASPM for NVMEs, etc. It won't cut your power draw in half but its starting somewhere.

>>108295564
AMD systems draw a fuckton of power at idle because of the I/O die, the cores themselves draw very little power at idle further evidenced by AMDs own monolithic APUs

>>108294278
Lenovo Legion Y540 17" | i7-9750H | GTX 1660Ti 6GB |
Not American, but if I were to literally convert the price it's for about $550
It has only 8GB of RAM, but I got mine to swap and I might be able to use this fact to haggle a bit.
The guy on Facebook seems to be kinda normish, he got some motorcycle and fishing pics, so maybe normish enough to not try some scam. The description of laptop was quite well written, albeit mentioning ability to render videos despite such low RAM could be a bit of red flag, but he probably just meant the CPU and GPU.
Thoughts?

>>108295597
the entire io die is only 20 watts.

bros what ssd should i trade my 2x8gb ddr5 5600mhz ram for? could i realistically ask for a 1tb 990 pro?

>>108295814
You may be able to get a single 256gb microsd card for it.

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I am putting a lot of faith into this sliver of electrical tape stopping the nut from shorting the GPU by making contact with the traces.

>>108294929
maybe in 5 years, they're focused entirely on internal market and maybe B2B

>>108295564
Thanks man this is exactly what I wanted to hear so dude on a YouTube comment was saying his idle was 70w for his system I guess he was just spouting shit

>>108295564
>>108295649
>>108295966
https://youtu.be/JHWxAdKK4Xg
guten tag

im building an inference box w/ a used 7900 XTX.
cant believe im paying $467 for low tier 2x32GB DDR4

>>108295881
idk shit but is dielectric breakdown potentially inevitable?

>>108295881
Couldn't you just find a plastic nut and bolt?

>>108295881
You should have epoxied the bare spot.

is $360 a good price for a used 5800x3d in your opinion?

I had someone else build my pc for me and I don't know what the parts are, and the screen won't turn on (which is why I can't for example check with the PC itself what the CPU is), so I can't boot up anything. Is it a CPU issue?

It's the same pc that worked before, but he changed the CPU and the rams to new ones I had bought over a year before and had ready in a cabinet without original boxes, but safe. Same pc, but now the screen won't turn on even if the computer itself clearly turns on.

This is a CPU issue right? The rams have been reseated and I made sure there is absolutely no issue with the rams.

(I also think it might be possible that someone at a computer shop could put a magic usb in and make it work if it's a software issue, but the new cpus I'm looking at will likely be cheaper than paying for someone to fix the pc)

>>108295855
why u so bitter bro?

>>108296290
I forgot to mention we also changed the ssd's, but I've had ssd changes before and there were never any issues, but that could be a potential problem too.

>>108296276
At this point, yeah probably. It's ridiculous that they're selling for around the same price as a 7800x3d now, sometimes getting close to the 9800x3d.
I assume you're doing AM4 for DDR4 RAM?

>>108296189
>"sure bro"
>*sells him 62000yen ram kit*

>>108296290
Take it back to whoever built it.

>>108296290
This anon is right >>108296351
If you can't do that, do you get any display output? Some computers don't show the initial UEFI screen these days, but you can try mashing delete, esc, F12, F10, or F11 as the computer turns on. Those are the usual keys to get into UEFI setup.
If you get there, you can give us more info to diagnose.
If you try mashing each of those keys, as the computer is turning on, and still nothing on the display, try plugging your monitor into another port.
You may have the monitor plugged into the motherboard with a CPU that doesn't have an iGPU.
Conversely, if the GPU is causing issues, possibly using a display output on the motherboard can get you an output, assuming your CPU has an iGPU.

>>108296351
Can't, he went to Japan for a long vacation. But desu I was the one who wanted to change the parts just before he left. But he is a decent pc builder, he built his own from scratch during the same day and it had no issues.
I'm just annoyed I didn't keep receipts or boxes for the cpu and rams I bought. I'm just thinking that replacing the cpu is the most likely to work, unless it's some kind of really weird ssd issue.

>>108296395
>assuming your CPU has an iGPU.
It doesn't, I remember this much sadly. But thanks for the advice. I'll try this tomorrow. But I just feel very sure that there's some other issue causing the screen to not turn on than simple user error. But I will still try it.

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>>108296339

>>108296338
>I assume you're doing AM4 for DDR4 RAM?
Yea, I can't afford upgrading to AM5, so I figured might as well get the best AM4 cpu.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5812

>ai shits out bad drivers
>but ai also quickly releases fixes
the yin to its yang

>>108295365
it sounds like you have either some shit software running in the background or a miner because no that is not normal

>>108296728
i'm so fucking tired of these two letters showing up everywhere

>>108296737
well get used to it buddy

is 9800x3d still worth buying for full price, or should I wait for newer gen stuff?

I'm not really in a rush to upgrade, but there's part of me that's scared of even more price jumps

>>108296757
get what you can get while you can get it
there's no wait fagging in these uncertain times

>>108296757
>I wait for newer gen stuff
New stuff is almost guaranteed to be costlier, there's more demand for AMD's server CPUs.
AMD will try to allocate more of their compute chiplets to server CPUs they qualify for server products.

MUH RAM

>>108296757
Compare price with 9850x3d and 7800x3d.

Greetings, moron here.
I just finished building a PC (mostly AMD parts) for the first time and am trying to install a linux distro on it. I've tried two different distro's (Nobara and Bazzite) and different flashing programs (Ventoy, Rufus, FedoraMediaWriter). Every time, the distro will initially boot up fine, but then it goes into a loading screen, after which it goes into "emergency shell" and I get the same error
>dev/root does not exist

Because its the same error each time with different OS programs, I'm assuming the problem is some setting in the motherboard, or maybe the USB stick? I've been trying to troubleshoot by going through the MB settings one by one but its ending up with the same problem each time.
Any advice for how to fix it? I asked in the Linux thread and I thought I'd ask here, too.

This is a more NAS-focused question, but this thread is more active than /hsg/

>refurb Dell prebuilt
>Intel Core Ultra 7-265, 16GB DDR5, 1TB SSD
>$600
this seems a good amount cheaper than what I can build myself and seems like a good solution for a NAS/Plex server. from what I've read/researched, the 265 seems pretty for encoding

The biggest downside is the (1) 3.5" slot, and the pitiful 180W PSU. I'd have to use a hard drive enclosure with it, which kinda defeats the purpose of having a dedicated server box

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Will it ever come back?

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>putting a graphics card on my retro build while holding a different pci card
>notice the pci card got caught into something
>it got stuck in the fucking hard drive pins
am i cooked?
will it be alright if i try to straighten them with a guitar pick? last thing i want is pins breaking off

>>108296968
I don't use Linux but I have a feeling this relates to Secure Boot bios settings. That or dealing with boot with UEFI/Legacy BIOS

>>108297093
Straighten them out and hope for the best

Why the fuck are you using IDE/PATA in 2026, are you in South America?

>>108297093
>retro build
nta, but it helps to read. Maybe he's doing a Win 95 PC for old games or something.

>>108297239
meant to reply to >>108297230

>>108297093

might want to use bamboo grill stick

What's the smallest, but still good case that can fit a full-sized ATX mobo, GPU, and PSU? Trying to get something that'll be easier to transport in a pelican case (or something) while flying

>>108297311
That's probably not what you want. The baggage handlers are going to fuck your shit up if you have a gpu and cpu cooler just hanging out in there. Even with something like an anti sag bracket, I doubt that's rated for a 3m+ fall off of a conveyor belt or dropping off of a moving baggage cart.
You probably want something like a mini PC with an eGPU. That way you don't have to worry about the CPU cooler, and you can just remove the GPU from the enclosure and have it sit in its own pocket of foam.

>>108296482
wisdom

>>108297083
is this considered a good deal? $1300 is a lot...

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Thinking about switching to the evolv x2 from a 4000D. Are there any better cases out there that have similar vertical (bottom to top) airflow like this one does?

>>108297518
It's all top end components. You could build for less, but not better.

>>108297247
Sorry I skimmed over "retro" due to the green text
well good luck at re bending careful
Maybe use a ruler or needle nose pliers

>>108297518
If you need that much ram, sadly it is. The ram alone is basically the cost of the bundle.

>>108296416
If you can't get the PC builder to help you out, you'll have to learn how to build and disassemble one :|
There are plenty of good PC building guides on YouTube.
Keep track of all the power cables and other cables that connect to the motherboard.
Read the motherboard manual. Good luck.

>>108296290
>Same pc, but now the screen won't turn on even if the computer itself clearly turns on.
If the PC is booting fine, but you're getting no display, check where the monitor display cable is leading to.
Your new CPU might not have an integrated GPU, so that display cable needs to be connected to the video card's display interface.
Maybe your monitor's not connected to a power source check whether its power cables are properly set.

>>108296416
>>108297627
Remember to take pictures before you disassemble
Helps you when you reassemble when you're new

>>108297230
>>108297239
>on my retro build
ive decided to sell my DDR5 ram and go back to old computers for some time, i dont play modern games anyway and using old tech is fun
This motherboard supports SATA too but how can i miss an opportunity to use oldschool IDE ribbon cables and some of the IDE drives i have at home!
managed to fix it carefully with some scissors btw

My idea for this build is setting up a dualboot with a lightweight linux (online) and windows XP (offline) since its a 2006 computer
That way i may be able to download my games directly from linux into the NTFS drive

>>108294454
Can you even afford populating all those DIMM slots?

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>>108294822
beQuiet does. I even got picrel for my old Dark Power Pro 11 1kW to use with a 4090.

>>108296010
My idle 9950X3D used 35W package power on average.

>>108297839
I was going to buy that ECC memory for 2 grand from A-Tech.

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>>108296276
No more than $300.
I got a 5800X3D and I don't think it's worth more than this.
Unless you already own a motherboard with PCIe 4.0 and 32GB+ of fast DDR4 RAM it's not even worth getting for 200. You would be better off going straight AM5.

>>108297675
that's cheating

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that reminded me i actually have a kill-a-watt that i haven't tried out in years
at full idle my 9800x3d+5090+64gb ram+4tb pcie-5 SSD build draws ~96W from the wall.

>>108297998
Just turn off your computer.

>>108297083
Will my ex-gf ever come back?
The answer is always the same.

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>>108295296
what happens if you filled it with moutain dew. or at least, make the liquid green so it looks like moutain dew. then just tell any guest who see it that your computer runs on moutain dew like a true gamer would.

>>108297998
and ~850W at full tilt with the gpu at stock, ~750W with my lazy undervolt

bros? i don't feel so good...

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>>108298151
forgot to add pic

>>108298157
Should have bought 4 months ago.

>>108298151
>>108298157
i'm glad i stuck with DDR4.

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>>108298157
>that model number

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>>108298179
>determined to stick with ddr4
>monitor for LGA1700 cpus on marketplace for weeks
>haggle with sellers every day to find the best deal
>one day someone sells intel 245k + mobo for $230
>holy shit this is a good deal
>immediately buy
>then see ddr5 prices
>mfw

>>108298188
that's what i paid for my 2x32gb 6000cl26 1.40v kit last february

>>108297998
What's it at under full load? I live in an older house with 15A circuits so I need to stay under 1800W total.

>>108297998
Nevermind, saw your post here. >>108298035

>>108298218
I have a ton of DDR4 ram at this point because i kept upgrading in small increments. have a nice 64 GB kit that i have not done anything with.

>>108297979
>No more than $300.
it's fucking over...

>>108298273
well after i bought the 245k + mobo bundle i had to sell my 32gb ddr4 ram to finance my ddr5 adventures. the ddr4 rams were surprisingly unpopular and i had to sell for what i considered to be below market price.

>>108296133
>plastic nut
Wtf
This exists?

>>108298297
people just need to have the latest shit, not knowing DDR4 is a perfectly viable alternative.

best computer for $0.50?

>>108298260
i'm also in an older house and because of my office randomly sharing a circuit with the garage and a guy I rent a room to having a plug-in hybrid i'm actually fire hazardmaxxing by running a long extension cord down the hall to a different circuit, otherwise it trips if i use my pc while his car is charging. can't wait for the 5090 to burn my house down and be denied my homeowners claim

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>>108298297
>>108298322
well that sure has changed, picrel.

>>108298365
maybe i need to open a jawa account and sell my remaining ddr4 there

who could've guessed in 2019 that the entirety of the next decade is just a pure shitshow

Everything that could've gotten better didnt
Terrible things that didnt need to happen at all happened. Things people couldnt have imagined, but reality proved worse.
Progress doesnt exist, its more like some psychopaths found a new way to extract value from the world to make themselves betteroff at the expense of everyone else.
They just keep pushing, and pushing to make things worse at incresingly accelerating rate while being immunized by a totalitarian police state with 24/7 surveillance and permanent history to track you.

>>108298365
i got the 128 GB kit of this for $400, and paid $200 for my 64 GB corsair kit.

>>108298377
I'm nostalgic for the 2010s just like i was for the 2000s when i was in the 2010s.

>>108298337
extension cords actually aren't dangerous, as long as you don't chain them, you match the wattage to your use, and you use those like walk on uh... things idk what they're called. you don't want to wear out the insulation walking on it

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Why are most nvidia gpus just slop?

>>108298396
That's a whopping 1 GB upgrade over their 8 GB cards. gamers don't need more than this.

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AMD need a 32GB gpu

>>108298391
yeah what happened in 2010s
america had a nigger president who did fuckall and laid groundwork for trump being elected
snowden told the world nsa spies on everyone and no one went to prison and things only got worse
there was the aftermath of the financial crisis where taxpayer money was used to bolster banks and people who created it didnt go to prison

at least youtube worked slightly better and win10 wasnt win11. Humanitys last decade before internet was slopped and permanently tarnished.

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>>108298461
amd has a 32gb gpu

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>>108298483
>>108298391
GTX 460? 2010? Black Ops? Halo Reach? Red Dead Redemption? God of War 3? Skyrim in 2011?

Soul...

>>108298461
What games use more than 16GB?

>>108298570
ComfyUI with mods

>>108298570
None. And now that we are at the end of times, nothing from here on out will ever require more.

>>108298570
>>108298594
Wouldn't it be 24GB and that peaked with the 3090 in 2020?

>>108298612
24gb was never required and never will at this point.

>>108298513
:(

I can't afford it.

>>108298461
>>108298570
>>108298594
You want it for the AI slop. not the games.

>GTX 900 SERIES - 2014/2015

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 - 4 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR5, 384 bit

>GTX 1000 SERIES - 2016

NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 - 2 GB, GDDR5, 64 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti - 8 GB, GDDR5, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 - 8 GB, GDDR5X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti - 11 GB, GDDR5X, 352 bit

>GTX 1600 SERIES

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER - 4 GB, GDDR6, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 - 6GB, GDDR5, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER - 6 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit

>RTX 2000 SERIES - 2019

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER - 8 GB GDDR6
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti - 11 GB GDDR6

>RTX 3000 SERIES - 2020

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 - 10 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 12 GB - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 20GB - 20 GB, GDDR6X, 320 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

>RTX 4000 SERIES - 2022

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti - 16 GB, GDDR6, 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER - 12 GB, GDDR6X, 192 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER - 16GB VRAM
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER - 16 GB, GDDR6X, 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

>RTX 5000 SERIES - 2024

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 - 8 GB / GDDR7 / 128 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti - 16 GB / GDDR7 / 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5080 - 16 GB / GDDR7 / 256 bit
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090- 32 GB / GDDR7 / 512 bit

>>108298621
in 2028, most gpus will be sold for llm use

>>108298642
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit
>NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Ti - 24 GB, GDDR6X, 384 bit

We never really needed more than this

>>108298695
that's exactly what i have. yet, i still lust for the BBC (Big Blackwell Cluster) the 96 GB blackwell cards.

>>108298655
>i might donate $900 to nvidia out of spite
that's like fucking a pregnant woman to get her to have a miscarriage

>>108298655
id consider 5070 ti if it was at msrp but 3080 will last until 60xx gpus come around

>>108298755
>until 60xx gpus come around

What games need more than a 5070 ti

>>108298642
Why are you listing the 20GB 3080Ti, the one that wasn't ever actually released? That's really skewing the numbers.

>>108298711
Computation has unironically maxed out. Quantum computing needs to be solved or made practical before we actually see any more substantial improvements in computing power. Why do you think they're using AI to generate fake frames now instead of just letting the hardware do it? Why do you think games from 2015 still look and run better than games from 2025? Hardware is not improving because computing power has plateau'd.

8 Cores @ 3.5 Ghz and 16 Gb of RAM has been standard for over 10 YEARS at this point. It is NOT improving anymore.

>>108296099
>idk shit but is
dielectric breakdown potentially inevitable?
What do you mean? This card uses some kind of synthetic cloth cover or whatever for the backplate screws, so maybe I should slice some paper.

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If these are the end timed for personal computing, why shouldn't I spend $900 to get 24GB of VRAM from a 3090 for the peace of my mind? I could train and prompt anything I could want.

>>108298795
I know games have plateau'd, but what about AI? what if the 6000 series cards make local AI easy for everyone. why can't they do the fake frame stuff that they're doing for games, but for local image and video generation. that'd be amazing.

>>108298809
because it's much cheaper to simply rent cloud gpus by the hour

>>108298820
No it isn't, I have no control over that.

>>108298809
>>108298820
If you're an AI enthusiast and you're genning every day all day making hundreds of loras, it is cheaper long term to just own the hardware. if you're someone who makes occasional videos, images, or maybe train a handful of loras, it is much cheaper to rent.

how obsessed with AI are you? ask yourself that.

>>108298831
>how obsessed with AI are you? ask yourself that
I've enjoyed it enough for it to be a favorite toy of mine since the inception of Stable Diffusion and Topaz Gigapixel despite my self-denial of the fact of how much time and effort I spent playing around with it for my own enioyment. My last 90 days in particular would have been infinitely less stressful and regretful if I gave into my FOMO and bought the 3090 when it was still under $700 or so here. I stopped myself thinking I was an addict needing his fix when he could have still used that for other tasks, while he already has 128GB of RAM since 2023 for 3dfagging.

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AMD's commitment to supporting AM4 sockets for nearly a decade is pretty kino

The only reason I did not buy a 3090 is because I was worried I would spend 800 on something that might catastrophically blow up later with no security, even if I immediately undervolted and power limited the fat bastard to 50% of its TDP.

>>108298972
I've owned nothing but used GPUs, except for a chinese 3060 I've bought. I've never had bad luck with GPUs. they're difficult to kill, unless you're actually mining with them. and even then, all they'd need is thermal paste replacement. If you want to learn to solder, you can fix most GPUs you're self with a voltage monitor to see where the short is, then remove/replace the bad fuse or memory module.

Is a 140mm better in the front or as the exhaust? Especially if I only have one.

>>108298972
Only evga and gigabyte 3090s die randomly like what you're imagining
Those made by other AIBs are fine

>>108293291
so temps went down from 60 idle to 40 idle
with CF + ptm meme on a 9800x3d cooled by an arctic iii 360.
Have to say I'm happy. I still didn't do any sort of meaningful cpu stressing work (like compiling)

>>108296010
I was curious if anybody had benchmarks for CPU power draw when:
idle on desktop
browsing internet
gaming at 100%

I notice this guy doesn't have x3d which is more efficient.

>>108294278
I am wondering if I should get a rig, I am simply starved for extra ports on my laptop atm and it has no thunderbolt.

But also have something so this laptop can be a backup in case my future rig breaks.

It has a ryzen 5000 series CPU and a rtx3060 mobile in it.
Also 64gb DDR 4 ram when it was still affordable.

I kind of want to build something similar, but made for a desktop and up to date for this time.
Either a 5060 or pay more for a high-end amd 9070.
Maybe I can then slap 64gb on it as well and keep the gaming laptop as a backup if the rig breaks.

>>108296968
>>>/g/fglt

>>108299050
Oh nice. I bought that stuff as well. Though I'll be using an air cooler instead.

>>108298377
stop noticing the upward transfer of wealth.
orange man bad, didn't you know?

I am once preventing myself from building under the idea that I should get a better motherboard.

>>108299047
My biggest worry is a failure with no fuse to protect the core and memory, not sure if Zotac ot Gigabyre have them on their 3090s for example.

>>108299152
I tried to rma my evga long ago. long story short, I wasn't very social, and so I didn't get my card replaced. For this reason, I will never buy nvidia.

>>108299186
I heard EVGA for some reason has no fuse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YFCx3HFAQE

>>108299570
Why don't cases have 200mm fans anymore?

is oled that big of an improvement over ips? burn-in and vrr flicker have me spooked

>>108299696
take the tclminiledpill

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>>108299570
I was there.

>>108299696
its a bigger upgrade than raster to RTX

>spend $900 on a gpu
>spend that money on a quiet case, fans, liquid cooler, cpu, keyboard, chair, or new monitor or ssd
decisions decisions

>>108299936
do the second then drop $3000 on a 5090

>>108299970
>then drop $3000 on a 5090
best we can do is out of stock for $5000

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>want to upgrade current AM4 PC
>CPU, GPU, SSD, HDDs, monitors, etc
>All in all comes out to around $1500 to get a 5700X3D and 9070XT build with 1TB NVME SSD, slow DDR4, etc
>Microcenter selling Powerspec PC with 7800X3D, 9070XT, 2TB NVME SSD and 32GB of DDR5-6000MHz for $1700 new

This timeline sucks dick. I'm honestly at the point where I'm about to buy a prebuilt.

>>108299570
>Case can fit 200mm front fans.
>Make only a brief mention of it.
>Don't test it.
>Completely overlook the thing that only like 4 other cases on the market can do.
>Don't test it and see if 200mm fans offer any benefit over the stock configuration.
>UGGHH IT SUCKS. AI!!! IT'S GOT AI IN THE MARKETTING! IT SUCKS! WHY DID THEY DO THIS?
>Literally 1/4 of the video is him ranting about AI.
Very cool Steve.

>>108300025
And worst of all
>we don't know what the fuck his test bench for case temps even is

>>108299936
>quiet case,
just use noise cancelling headphones
>fans
grab a small desk fan or something and point it at an opening in your case.
>liquid cooler
jerry rig your own.
>cpu,
You don't need more than 4 cores
>keyboard
Use some cheap discarded office keyboard, and clean out all the gunk and clipped fingernails. good as new.
>chair
use your bed like i do.
>new monitor
use your TV
>ssd
by the cheapest low capacity SSD for just your OS and put the rest on cheap high capacity HDD

now you have all the stuff you wanted and you can spend the $900 on the GPU which is the most important thing.

>>108299570
review kino I think
Makes me wonder what is the oldest still viable case out there? Could be that one. ATX standard goes back into the 90's, you could still build a pc in case from year 1995 but those have no airflow.
The new case is obviously overpriced and also soulless.

Finally decided to OC my XTX. Can setting the power limit to +15 rekt my stuff?
8-pins might not be 12VHPWR but I sometimes fear mine aren't quite perfectly seated and that pushing them to their limits might go wrong, really wouldn't be the best time to torch my PC.

>>108300090
what a fucking shitty retarded take
not everyone is a goymer retard, some of us do actually work with their PCs

>>108300025
>>Case can fit 200mm front fans.
>>Make only a brief mention of it.
>>Don't test it.
>>Completely overlook the thing that only like 4 other cases on the market can do.
>>Don't test it and see if 200mm fans offer any benefit over the stock configuration.
Maybe Antec should include 200mm fans over the 140mm ones when they are charging $300 for a case?

https://github.com/AOMediaCodec/libavif/releases

UPDATE NOW

>>108300143
I agree. the GPU isn't important for the goymes, it's important for the AI slop. surely that's what you meant by "actually do work".

>>108300207
but for AI work you also need ram to run non retarded MOEs, along with fast drives (nvme pcie 4.0 at least)
I know because I do actually work with AI, and you cant really skimp on cpu/ram/drives, you need a beefy system

Best x870 board?

>>108300260
x870e glacial

The price semt fair, 400€, so I bought an Intel i9 14900KF and upgrade - without upgrading mobo - my "old" 12700K workstation, so feel the heat of Intel's nano-oxydation-drama over my head.

Grok told me it is fine with Intel microcodes' updates and BIOS upgrade.

How /pcbg/ judge such move ?

>>108300270
its fine if you limit the VID request to 1.4-1.45v and strictly adhere to intel's power and current limits in bios

bros i have a 1gbit connection but steam fucking caps at 30mbps (4MB/s~). I can download stuff through the fucking browser and epic at full1gbit to the same drive (100MB/s~) why the fuck is steam not using my full bandwidth?
I tried changing regions but nothing happened.
could it be my ISP throttling steam?

>>108300317
Screenshot your downloads tab from the Steam settings.

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>>108300331
also threw in the task manager to show basically 0% usage on my disks

>>108300340
Try a different region?

>>108300360
nope,
tried france, germany, pooland, US - NY, same exact speed, which makes me think it's either my ISP doing some traffic shaping shenanigans or my steam client being fucking dumb

>>108300390
Do you have another PC you can test a download from steam on? Otherwise it might be your ISP fucking with it to slow down your speed.

>>108300317
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1082209554

>>108300185
They should.
But, if you're paying $400 for a case, you're probably not going to use stock fans anyway.

>>108300390
try using a vpn. if the speed unfucks itself then its 100% ISP throttling

>>108299186
this post makes no sense, did you not send emails in or something?

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>>108298365
>be from bananaland
>2x16 kit from Kingstom cost around 329,98 bucks (2024)
>Want to buy another kit so I can have 64gb
>It costs now 1759,98 (just now)

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What's better for LAN? Intel or Realtek?

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>>108300478
steam blocks my german vpn :(
>tested a random free vpn I found online
FUCK MY JEWISH ISP
how the fuck do I confront them

>>108300543
>how the fuck do I confront them
>Sup, kikes? Stop throttling my video game downloads or I'll make the USA's recent "negotiations" with Iran look like a fucking joke to your headquarters.

>>108300598
I phoned them and they claimed they have no throttling or blocks at all on my line. Tried escalating to a technician but the operator claimed she was already a technician (bullshit), told them about the VPN test, still claimed no blocks, to which I responded 'I"ll just switch operator' and closed the phone.
FUCKING BITCH
so to anyone reading this, if you live in italy, don't sign up with FASTWEB.

>>108300512
>lust provoking image

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MSI heatsinks are so great that the VRM blocks dont even contact the thermal pads, regardless if I hastily undo the deshroud mod or never did it in the first place.

>>108300090
>noise cancelling headphones
bait used to be believable

>>108300628
nta but like 8 years ago i bought some bose qc35 for the office. now i wear them at home and almost never take them off. i could go on about how much i love them to the point you'd think i was paid by bose to shill for them.

>>108300090
>just use noise cancelling headphones
the only men doing that in their own homes are doing so to drown out the sound of their wife getting banged by tyrone in the other room

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This isn't completely related, but I recently bought a new ThinkPad and want to have my rootfs on an NVMe SSD while my home directory mounted to a SATA SSD. Should I purchase an SLC, TLC, or QLC SSD? I'm not super interested in getting the maximum speed possible since my rootfs is already an NVMe. Mostly focused on reliability, Is the difference really that big?

>>108300686
you can't buy SLC or MLC consumer drives these days
TLC is the premium option while QLC is the dogshit option. TLC was worth the cost but ssd prices have gone crazy in recent times so ymmv

>>108299570
I owned it.

>>108299570
think my old one is still kicking around in my parents home

>>108300703
It seems like you can find some enterprise drives but the price is like $3 per GB.

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>>108300543
mfw just bought 1 month of [not gonna name vpn] yeah I-I totally won this one ahahah!!!

>>108300824
When did the internet become so faggy? At least you got the speed you double paid for now.

>>108300824
I use mullvad vpn

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Fuck, I didn't either screw in hard enough or the M4 nuts are too high to contact properly on their own or because of the tape/paper underneath.

>>108300845
ISPs have always been faggy especially if you live in areas with monopolies. This is why you threaten to switch when there's competition, they will bend over their ass to keep you or improve the service.

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somehow i can get a b60 pro for $750 but a 5070 TI is $1k on my country, unironically tempted to get a b70 with a loan if that ever comes with 32gb to my country at a reasonable price, but i was planning to use that loan to buy a 6080/6090 next year

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>>108300862
Yeah that didn't spread the paste at all with the tape/paper this time, wtf. It was fine on my first attempt.

>>108300845
yeah but I already have a fucking VPN to my own servers and it's gonna be so fucking shit having to configure this garbage with all the manual ROUTING I FUKCING HA+TE THIS

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Looking at the 9800x3d bundle from microcenter. Is the asus b650e-e board with it good? Or should I upgrade to the msi option?

>>108300942
the mobo is okay. the ram it includes is shit. its 50/50 it will post on amd.

>>108301000
Just okay though? And why is that with the ram?

>>108300942
RAM has shit timings but other than that it's looks like a really nice deal

>>108300879
bruh, your pcb must be warped, there isn't enough contact on the gpu's cpu anymore.

also i doubt that was quite enough thermal paste either. Nothing happens if you use a bit too much anon. Get 2x gpu brackets and put one on the end, and another inbetween the first and second fans on the left.

I'm going to buy a 9070xt. This will be my first gpu in almost a decade.
Between Asus, Sapphire, XFX and Asrock, which brand is the most reliable nowadays?
Based on my own experience, XFX has always been the best, but I don't know if that has changed.

>>108301008
AMD's sole, and large, weakness in the cpu-arena is their mediocre memory controllers inside their cpu, its not even the mobos fault, sometimes the cpu just wont work with XYZ ram sticks.

In the am4 days, i had a scenario where i was helping a friend build his first pc. I even picked out the parts;
>finish assembly, boot up first time
>everything works, i find the mobo model and update his bios
>suddenly it wont post
>hours of tinkering pass, still wont post
>i take it home, swap the ram with my cheaper, older, but more stable 2666mhz corsair ram
>suddenly it boots up like nothing happened.
>i needed that ram for my mining rig, but i had another leftover set of higher-spec, expensive ram, which also worked fine, so he used that until he had time to do the return at the pc store
He wound up returning his ram and buying the same cheap old corsair ram i used, it didn't matter much.

>>108301038
i like my XFX merc, but apparently they are 'the worst' according to fan noise+warranty returns, according to some seething NJudean goyslaves ITT. Asus are a scumbag corpo on my perma-blacklist, and Sapphire's higher-end gpu shrouds are very nice, but their cheap ones are mid.

Asrock are also good at gpu cooling i hear. You're spoilt for choice really, just pick the design you like the most imo.

>>108301038
whatever is cheapest they're all the same chip and its gacha whether you get samsung or hynix or chink qc.

>>108301051
Huh. I never knew. I guess I got lucky with my am4 build.

>>108301093
it varies on your cpu. the early am4 chips would die trying to go above 3433mhz. some am5 chips just hate anything more than 6200mhz.

>>108301104
some even hate running 6000mhz
there's a lot of IO die lottery on am5

>>108301051
>update his bios
There's where you fucked up. If it works don't fuck with it.

>>108301149
this was middle-era AM4 and there was a security breach patch every other day. He'd just assembled it, it NEEDED to be updated, you don't just stick with the stock bios from the store jesus.

Hell, i had to update my MSI x870 tomahawk bios like 5x until the ram became more stable, it periodically forgot the ram timings and would randomly re-teach itself them roughly once a month on me, for like 10minutes straight, only the latest bios fixed that.

>>108301130
6000mhz should run on every am5 chip but the kits often have intel subtimings which makes can make the cpu shit itself for example the igpu will take down the whole io die unless you disable the igpu or fix your ram.

Is it actually worth waiting for the 6000 series?

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What's everyone's (Samsung) 9070 XT VRAM OC?
On one hand it runs cooler, but on the other you can't sustain the go-to Hynix OC.

>>108301247
No it's not worth waiting 18-24 months

How the fuck are you suppose to know where the VRAM for your GPU comes from?

>>108301262
gpu-zee

>>108301262
Gpu-z tells you

>>108301247
you wont be able to afford it.

>>108301250
mines cant go any higher than 2650mhz

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>>108301247
>waitcucks never learn
Njudea aren't even releasing a new gpu this YEAR, hell, their current supply is suspect, wtf do you think?

Fuck the B650E-EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE board. Getting a MSi X870E EEEEEEEEEEEdge instead.

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Recently upgraded my PC, and put the left over parts for sale on ebay but NO ONE is interested in buying.

The listing has been up for 2 weeks now and not a single person has shown any interest despite uploading tons of pictures, including the original packaging and ensuring that all the components. They are second hand parts, sure, but in this economy you would think there would be tons of people interested. I even relisted it half off retail price and are selling several components together as a bundle. What gives?

>>108301247
You'll be waiting two years or so. Fuck that.

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>>108301032
I fucking give up on this thing, without standoffs there is just no way I can screw this heatsink back onto the card without thermal throttling and hitting 97c on the hotspot temps with 30% fan speed, this shit is not making contact with the cooler. God why the fuck did I have to take this card apart in the first place, temps were fine.

The mounting pressure this time is at least good enough to do Furmark and Superposition but it throttles in the end. This ain't the PCB warping beyond what it already does on its own when you screw down the PCB to the heatsink. Figured the nuts dont turn all the way or get stuck on the tape but no, they may just be too high up and I doubt I can file them down, the nuts are too small. I would have just put 3 standoffs back on but I couldn't even get M2 screws back on before trying the original remaining 3.

This GPU heatsink is just almost fucked. I knew the delta of 12-15c on the hotspot when stock was high but now it is just worse.

My last card here would have been to actually, fuck hold on why didn't I just screw the screws in the OTHER way around and nutted on the other side. Fuck, my screws are too short though. I will have to wait until tommorow.

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>>108301696
Paradoxically, you would think the coverage is fine.

So has the Chinese ram ship fully sailed? If I want to buy something like 256 gigs of ram for ai, what are my options?

Hello

I am going to upgrade my 10 year old pc layer today. What benchmark software will easily allow me to compare before and after?

FYI I am going from a 6600k/1070 to a 9600x/9070.

>>108301763
any game with in-game benchmark: cyberpunk, shadow of the tomb raider, monster hunter wilds, hitman 3, they usually have a demo on steam or are drm free.

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Nope that won't work.... fucking bullshit proprietary M2 female to M4 male standoffs, one of your flimsy Chinesium screws snaps and your GPU is going to cook. Fucking unreal.

>>108301816
bro just sell this card without the shround on ebay

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>>108301032
The PCB is warped because MSI makes cheap garbage cards that warp simply from the screw pressure but it didn't affect temperatures before I took apart the card.

>>108301756
learn to use pinduoduo

>>108301763
Heaven Benchmark or furmark for gpu speficially.
Then there's passmark software, cinebench, or various game benchmarks like the other anon said.

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>>108299050
alright first real test, doing some transcoding on my cpu
temps look decent

>>108300025
he's become quite insufferable lately. always crying about AI and America.

>>108301795
>>108301860
Thanks

>>108301928
And what are you, stupid?

>>108301645
Personally, the only used parts I'm interested in are old highend parts like the 5800x3d, 10900k, 3090, 4090 etc.

>>108301051
makes me feel good I returned my first kit of ram I bought with my 7800x3d because one letter was off so I thought it was on QVL but it wasn't, so I returned it instead of tinkering to get EXPO to work.

>>108301247
can you not play your games now?
all the next gen stuff will be launching at the same time. cpu, gpu, console...
plus we're in an inflated market.

>>108301941
why, because I don't want to listen to a redditor cry?

>>108302020
>>108301928
>turning on steve from gaymersnexus
>not because he turned the channel into dramasnexus out of butthurt over bald ltt guy making a side comment in a tour
>but because he said bad things about aislop
pathetic

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>>108300340
>>108300543
>>108300824
you made me curious. whatever you have is slower than Starlink lol.

>>108301977
I figured there are more people getting into PC building but want to save money, so to see a bunch of good parts go ignored like this has me baffled.

I had an error with my GPU, and when I checked Windows, it only gave me a generic kernel GPU related error. Is there any way I can dig deeper to try to identify the reason for the failure in more detail?

>>108302050
LTT is gay and I didn't watch any of those videos either.
I just want tech news and reviews that aren't editorialized to be compliant with reddit and bluesky.

>>108302051
it's 1gbit, only the provider is a faggot and throttles known media providers. hopefully he won't touch huggingface

>>108302067
>I just want tech news
How do you expect that with the way AI is going? What will anyone have news to report if it's all AI related? If we just let AI go there won't be any tech news because you won't have any hardware to buy as you'll just need to connect to the AI cloud for all your needs!
If you want AI news just go read your goyslop SlopNN or FoxSlop whichever fancies your titties. Otherwise, it needs to be known to bitch about AI unless you're some cattle that won't mind being anally probed for semen. If so, carry on.

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I do not care anymore, if it breaks it breaks. In before this actually makes it worse because the lack of standoffs means a huge air bubble forms over the core becaude of the convexity around each screw.

>>108302124
you're a retard and you should go back to your hugbox.
more than half the posts asking for help in these threads are from people doing AI at home.

>>108302161
this,
i dont game anymore,
im full on gooning + working

>>108302066
Unlike CPUs that give you various bsod codes, with PCIE device errors you just get a generic device lost error. As for why the device is lost it can mean anything. Bad drivers, unoptimized exe, too low voltage, too much over clocking, it means something happened that made the GPU enter it's failsafe mode. it's best to have a igpu enabled so the whole system doesn't die in these cases and you can debug.

>>108300014
>All in all comes out to around $1500 to get a 5700X3D and 9070XT build with 1TB NVME SSD, slow DDR4, etc
why the fuck is an am4 system so expensive? shit doesnt even make sense

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>>108301869
> temps look decent
> 82,9°C max
My PBOCed 9950X3D never even scratches 80°C @23°C ambient. I'm cooling with an ALF3 420, TG Contact Frame and very thinly spread Duronaut in a picrel case (with metal panel oc). Maybe your case has bad airflow? Maybe your cooler has no even contact with the HS?

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Deadlock keeps warning me about my drivers.
is it safe to update yet?

>>108300014
> Microcenter selling Powerspec PC with 7800X3D, 9070XT, 2TB NVME SSD and 32GB of DDR5-6000MHz for $1700 new
Just get that. It's faster, it's better value, it's more usable for things other than gaming and has a future.

Only upgrade your AM4 system if you can acquire a 5700X3D or even 5800X3D for under $300 and already have a PCIe 4.0 motherboard and at least 32GB of DDR4-3600CL16 or faster. It makes no sense to invest into AM4 platform now.

Ray Reconstruction preset E is like black magic. Makes path tracing with upscaling viable

>>108301696
you can always just watercool it as a last ditch resort?

>>108301833
all pcb's warp nowadays due to the weight of the coolers. Especially if you don't put 2 anti-sags in at minimum.

i've linked this video in the past that explains it in autistic detail. Either you vertically mount your newer, heavy gpus, or you spam anti-sag brackets to avoid pcb sag.

>>108301157
>Hell, i had to update my MSI x870 tomahawk bios like 5x until the ram became more stable
So it was broke. That is the appropriate time to update bios. Like I said, if it's not broken leave it alone.

>>108302226
not yet

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>>108296757
I think it's clear we've been done with waiting being useful for the last 8 or 9 years.

The GTX 1080 was the turning point. You basically had to wait until the 5070 to get a similarly good bang for your buck

Unless you plan on waiting 5+ years, now is the time to buy, your stuff won't be obsolete for a decade because tech advances have slowed down.

>>108302620
There's no reason to be that optimistic about the next generation.

Since the payoff is so great with servers, they aren't even working to increase efficiency (ie at home). expect NOTHING.

>>108301816
Which AIB is that (to blacklist them forever)?

>>108294278
Got my box of 10 500 GB seagate baracudas, fired up crystal diskinfo, all brand new less than 1 hour, flashed them to the latest firmware. 6 of them in my raid array with a spare on top. I'm happy. Good value for 50$. I now have four raid arrays up and running.

>>108301816
>>108302707
Nevermind, saw the MSI pic a bit later. I would measure the distance between the four holes and see if something like a Raijintek Morpheus could work as a cooler replacement.

>>108302705
you doomers are so pathetic.
PS6 is making a huge push for ray tracing, which is why AMD has added ray tracing hardware to RDNA4 and will improve on it even more in RDNA5.
Nvidia won't let AMD win so they will improve their products too.

>>108302620
Yeah not is the time to byt 750TIs, 970s/980s, 1080s and (nearly) 2080s. Fools like you will always waste your money building stupid status symbol space heater LED boxes without regard to value or utility.

>>108302751
>you doomers are so pathetic.
You think things can't go backwards.

They did with youtube. Youtube has censorship. I remember as long as you didn't threaten to commit murder or terrorism, and there wasn't any nudity or extreme sexual themes, it just stayed up.

This isn't a distant memory, I'm not actually 100 years old recalling the founding of Alphabet.

You literally are relying on a company making shit that is only made because Huang is nolstagic.