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>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE.
Post build list or current specs including MONITOR: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases.
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped.
Building guide: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC
>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 217, Flux Pro, Y40, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, Vision (Compact), Antec C8
AVOID: NXZT, 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 6500
>CPU
Budget: 9600X, 7600X, 7500F
Gaming: AMD X3D
Workstation: 9950X, 9900X
AVOID Shittel
>COOLER
AIO: Best Value: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Premium: Lian Li GA II Lite, LCD: TRYX Panorama
Double towers: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE, Noctua NH-D15 G2
>MOTHERBOARD
Avoid ASRock AM5 boards, CPU degradation issues still reported.
>RAM
Gaming: DDR5 2x16GB 6000CL30
Workstation/high end: consider 2x32GB
>SSD (OS drive)
Budget: NM790
Mid range: SN7100
Premium: SN850X
Flagship: SN8100
>GPU
1080p: RX 9060 XT 16GB, Poorfag Esports Gaming: Used GPU between $100-$250
1440p: RX 9070 XT, RX 9070, Budget: RX 9060 XT 16GB
4K: RX 9070 XT
Workstation: Radeon AI PRO R9700, CUDA Mandatory: Used RTX 4090 or RTX 3090 ti
AVOID RTX 50 Series: False advertising "5070=4090 performance!!", unsafe power connector, broken drivers, overpriced compared to RDNA 4 in most regions, threatening reviewers, manipulating and faking reviews, destroying game art direction with AI slop etc.
ALWAYS pair AMD GPUs with AMD CPUs for SAM https://imgur.com/a/6XSNJ9b
>PSU
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-har dware-busters/
>MONITOR
https://pcmonitors.info/
>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Mid range: Arctic P12/P14 (Max) (5-pack)
High end: Noctua NF-A12x25, Noctua NF-A14x25 G2
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I've been in the market for a 270k since launch but it looks like Intel isn't actually interested in fucking selling them. There were three in stock at my local microcenter but once they sold they haven't restocked. Now Microcenter bundles are coming with a slower rgb ram kit when they do restock. Bleh. I saw that On newegg they don't even have a product page right now. They were selling above msrp at $350 instead of $300 and the page said 500+ sold when I checked a few days ago. If newegg sold 500+ and each microcenter sold 3, thats somewhere in the ball park of 1000 units in North America from your two biggest PC retailers Almost like Intel doesn't want to sell them...
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>>108575011
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Quick_Sync_Video
I'm a professional video editor and need quick sync for my work
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Just want to say thanks to the anon who told me to overclock my 5060ti 16g, very close to 5070 performance when i need it.
But now i'm going to also look in to undervolting to extend it's life.
Because i really dont need all that performance when playing factorio.
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building a new pc here.
7700x + b650 gaming x ax v2 Microcenter combo
It will not post, cant get to bios. DRAM light stays red. I've tried changing ram, reseating, moving it around.. no good. GPU is not plugged in.
I have tried q-flash plus to update bios.. dont know what im doing wrong. Tried cmos clearing, taking the battery out. I'm in despair, this couldn't be more frustrating. I've never had this kind of problem before.
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This thread will be filled with fake questions to bump the thread up the /g/ catalog.
None of the "questions" asked in the previously deleted thread migrated to this one >>108569670
Previously deleted thread for ref.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/108569652/#108569652
You can stay here if you want to read all the crap the OP (Nicotroon) is posting alone.
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Any home theater fags in here? Looking for some no-frills 2.1 setup, something better than the logitech sets which have insane white noise nowadays, and more sexy than CONSONO 25 CONCEPT 2.1 set (pic). Any help please?
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Recently purchased and installed an under desk PC mount and found out my BT headphones won't connect past the table top of my desk. Tested another pair and the same issue persist where the will only connect when placed under my desk. My motherboard has built in wifi and those screw on antennas. I was thinking about purchasing a USB BT adapter but wasn't entirely sure if it would be pointless because it's solely a placement and interference issue with my desk assuming the extended range from the USB BT adapter would be the same as the wifi antenna's?
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Went looking for parts for a HTPC today when I saw this.
So, I guess Newegg is a pretty popular place to buy a sex doll?
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this one didnt even reach bump limit why did they make a new one
anyway yeah i wanna make a RAID array with old IDE drives on an old PC, thoughts? i have like 4 identical seagate 20GB drives, 3 of which probably have no issues
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>>108575829
>this one didnt even reach bump limit why did they make a new one
We're dealing with pic related a coal spamming troll that's obsessed with family guy wojacks and some other dogshit goyslop who keeps hijacking the OP and inciting brand wars, this was created early to prevent him from sniping the OP again.
In regards to your RAID question I don't know anything about it except that it's a bitch to setup and lots can go wrong. But as long as all the drives you use are in good working order it should be ok, probably just bin the one you're suspicious of to be safe.
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You guys know there's no one actually asking questions in this thread right? It' just nicotroon and friend.
You never find it suspicious that the thread suddenly has 8x more traffic whenever he's trying to force a thread?
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>108575927
>No one wanted to wait for my garbage thread I announced I was going to early bake to hijack the OP and went to the new one already instead WTF!!!
>Must be theatother schizo no life I'm beefing with!!
Take your meds
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>>108575963
>If you're the OP you have to be able to answer every single question that gets asked with full knowledge and accuracy
Sorry I don't use RAID in the year 2026 when my PC is all NVME ssds. Autistic tard.
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>>108576125
Kys
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I love how much fighting goes on in pcbg threads. I seriously think this autism is the beating heart of G.
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>>108576283
https://www.pcgamer.com/russian-man-convicted-of-murder-after-killing- friend-over-amd-vs-nvidia-argument/
pcie add-in graphics boards are serious buisness
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>>108574942
Can it game?
Probably not the best price to perfomance monitor, but I like the sleek design.
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>sleek
that giant fat, faggoty reddit support panel/beam is 'sleek' to you? your taste is dogshit. Apple stuff is simply not designed for gaming, you're retarded to even think to ask this question, 100hz screen at best.
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I'm losing hope in Radeon
Lately, the rumors haven’t been very favorable for the red side. There are indications that AMD may not provide support for the future FSR Diamond on the Radeon RX 9000 lineup. If that actually happens, it would be a pretty bad decision for both the company and its users, since such an important technology would end up being restricted to future GPU generations.
Meanwhile, on the other hand, Nvidia continues to maintain a very solid ecosystem. In this scenario, if an Nvidia GeForce RTX 5070 and an AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT have the same price, for example, it's perfectly understandable that someone would choose an RTX 5070. Some reasons include:
Better professional applicability, with stronger optimization (Blender, AI workloads, Adobe Creative Cloud programs);
Better upscalers (DLSS 4.5 + DLDSR);
Reflex 2 support (coming soon);
Considerably better support for MFG and path tracing;
Lower VRAM consumption and better memory management in games (GDDR7);
Longer driver support and more "democratic";
More promising future technologies focused on improving visual realism and performance in games and 3D applications (RTX Neural Shaders, RTX Neural Texture Compression, RTX Neural Faces, etc.).
At this point, I’m feeling pretty hopeless about Radeon.
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>108576422
>Salty faggot is mad this thread is active so he's gonna spam it now to try and disrupt the conversation
Yeah I'm the troll though for making this thread
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This is honestly depressing.
Looking at Ray Regeneration here: Just zoom or watch the DF Video
WHY is it havier than ray reconstruction????
No upgrade from BO. No conjuction with Upscaler.
Another floppy redstone tech.
DISCLAIMER: Since many are pointing out the performance difference as a whole, this post was about Ray regeneration VS Ray reconstruction performance PERCENTAGE difference and VISUAL difference.
This screenshot is from Digital Foundry youtube video, I didn't choose to compare a 9070xt to a 5080 and i'm not doing it, the graphics card are pure reference used from them.
The problem is that an inferior algorithm that doesn't upscale the ray with the upscaler is heavier.
You can be fine with it, but it's just an observation, no need to be rude. i don't care.
For the ones that still can't get it, the difference will be the same even with a 9060xt and a 5060 ti since we are not talking about how the card performs versus the other but INSTEAD how the denoisers performs and looks against the other.
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>>108576400
>that giant fat, faggoty reddit support panel/beam is 'sleek' to you? your taste is dogshit
I would of fucking course use a monitor arm so I wouldn't have to see that fuck ass ugly beam like I'm doing right now with two Samsungs.
>Apple stuff is simply not designed for gaming,
No shit, I didn't ask if it was "designed for gaming", I asked if it can game, I'm not a no-lifer who's sitting at his masturbation-station 24/7, I do a LOT of bread winning graphics design and want to game on the side.
>you're retarded to even think to ask this question, 100hz screen at best.
You cannot even fathom someone having a different usecase from you, you don't have any ground to call anyone retarded
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>>108576505
>cannot even fathom someone having a different usecase from
We currently got two subhuman brand fags having a sperg war for control of the OP that's been going on for a few days nkw. This is 4cuck, 90% of posters are on the autism spectrum. And part of autism is being unable to see things from other's perspectives.
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Why does FSR 4 look like noisy crap on the vegetation and hairs in this game? It's like it's the work of FSR 3, because I have a hard time telling the difference between FSR 4 and FSR 2 in this game; they both look really bad. Adrenaline shows that FSR4 is active. Do you all experience something similar? Oh yeah, why am I recording the video on my phone? Because Relive refuses to record this game
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>>108576573
>someone who constantly spams the thread and makes up like 1/4-1/2 of all posts when he's not banned.
I think he called himself 'baron fartkonnen'. he is cool but clearly craaaazy. gossip says he was the owner of the r/pcmasterrace subreddit
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LMAO AT THIS LITTLE NVIDIKID DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO GO TO HIS SHIT THREAD THAT'S GONNA GET DELETED IN A FEW HOURS ANYWAY BECAUSE HE PUT A BLATANT BRAND WAR IMAGE FOR THE OP PIC
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Should have spent "a few" more bucks and enjoy state of the art and lack of frustration...
That's what I'm thinking . This forum for months has been full of justly disappointed people (including myself). And today was the peak.
I wouldn't be here if I had 5070ti. I wouldn't read all this AMD-inflicted pain that y'all are translating into reddit posts.
Just note for myself from the future:
Don't rely on temporary emotions when deciding what product to buy. Nvidia is shitty but state of the art is state of the art. Of course they are ripping people off, who doesn't? But it's just money, you will be better off with a few dollars less but better mental heath. Just search "Redstone launch" or "FSR4 int8" and remind yourself what you want (what you are paying for) to avoid.
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What can be done about radeon path tracing peformance in HL2:RTX?
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>>108576690
Stop pretending to be me, stop appropriating my preferred schizophrenia outlet.
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>>108576625
I love you lord fartkonnen. You and the aussie 7900 XTX anon are my favorite posters.
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I was a huge fan of AMD. I've had many gpus over the years, ranging from the hd 7970, r9 390, and currently the 6900xt. I also have bought a 3700x, then 5800x, then a 5700x3d in support of a "good company".
After AMD moved RDNA 1 & 2 to "maintenance mode," they've shown their true intentions of prioritizing short-term profits over long-term customer satisfaction and return customers.
For reference, my previous gpu, a 980 ti received day 0 game optimizations for over 10 years. AMD's 6900xt couldn't even make it 5 full years.
Due to their lack of priority support for a very capable architecture that is likely still being sold, as well as other blunders such as the Radeon Vii ending support after only 2 or 3 years, I can no longer recommend them to family/friends or my employer (part of my job is provide hardware upgrade paths for our 1,500+ servers).
Goodbye AMD 6900xt and future purchases. Hello Nvidia 5070 Ti. I sadly hope Intel can save us all from these two companies.
Edit: This goes far beyond "day-0" support. At the end of the day, AMD backpedaled. They wanted to reduce support for RDNA 1 & 2 but the backlash was bad, so they corrected to save themselves.
The fact they played into "amd ages like fine-wine" to sell objectively inferior products, then attempted to reduce support for products still in their prime, is telling. At this point, it's prevalent they will drop support for products they're STILL selling as early as possible.
Hell, they were still selling vega powered laptops a couple years ago that had noticeably bad, "maintenance" support.
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On a scale of 10 how bad is this backlight bleed?
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any active Edifier Bookshelf speakers together with their T5 sub. If the speakers have sub out connect your PC to the speakers and then the sub out to the T5s line in. If they dont have a sub out connect your PC to the line in of the sub and then the line out to your speakers. If you insist on having a 2.1 setup out of the box I think Edifier had some solutions here too, alternative Klipsch exists.
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>108576814
Fake njudea sponsored benchmark
This is the real performance
Also DLSS implementation is sabatoged on this game due to AMD partnership and looks fucked up and blurry
Only good way to play Radeon Desert is on an RX 9000 series GPU
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>>108576789
sounds more complicated than just having power+amp+sub in one box and then just passive pair of speakers, doesn't it? what do I need separate power systems for? also separate amps, sound processing and shit
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>RE9 Requiem gets properly cracked
>without Denuvo or HV now you can get even more fps while enabling pathtracing
is this why the usual schizo is seething
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Ugh guys I really like coming here to read about computer parts but some of these fanboys clearly lost their minds. The nvidia fanboy seems to be in an especially bad mental shape. Such a sorry sight.
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>>108576902
This is great news for the overwhelming majority of us
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>>108576912
>Filename
Kek
Aye aye sir! I'll hit them with a Smart Access Memory Broadside!!
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>>108576959
*KABOOOM*
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>>108576975
*HISSSS*
*KAPOOW*
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>power+amp+sub in one box
I only know that the Klipsch Heritage 2.1 system had an amp inside the sub but I tried it and it had very noticeable static noise. I don't think most independent subwoofers have an amp for passive speakers and not everyone wants an amp on the desk. Active speakers and sub are not that complex you only need to make sure you can connect everything to each other
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>>108576912
>The nvidia fanboy seems to be in an especially bad mental shape.
Yeah I feel bad for him. I think few weeks ago he talked about not doing too well mentally. Few months back he mentioned he lost his virginity to a streetwalker and got hpv warts. Its an ugly story. I always tell people to be patient with him and throw him a fake reply when they see his threads, that keeps him happy and busy.
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>gpus got another 5-7% more expensive
>ram stays kinda same with disappearing offers
I was supposed to win by waiting. hmmm, I call this pro gamer move: increase timeframe. launch wait more.exe
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guys i just bought a new setup. not bought but yk setup a new custom pc my self i have gigabyte b850 mobo ryzen 7 9800x3d 32 gig ddr5 rams and rx9070xt the setup is fire but i have a very annoying issue. in certain games acc ig all games i played when im on windowed or windowed fullscreen my game feels wayyyyy smoother than regular fullscreen. I play minecraft,cs2.rust, death stranding etc etc and every one of these games i had this common problem where fullscreen makes the game feels like choppy and unsmooth even tho im getting more than 200 fps including rust. but when its windowed it works like butter and everything works perfect and not to mention I get more fps on cs2 with windowed fullscreeen than regular fullscreen. i deleted the drivers bla bla downloaded them back and it did not work. i resetted the whole pc it did not work. im ab to lose my mind. i dont wanna play rust in windowed mode nor mc. and my fps counter is way inaccurate too. in rust steam fps counter annnnd rust it self fps counter says im getting 180-220 fps but in adrenaline app it says im averaging 70 fps im ab to lose my mind. i spent shit ton of money. i been USING AMD CARDS SINCE RX590 came out and never seen this much bs w their card. GUYS PLS HELP
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>>108577214
>Good luck with that, you're never buying anything again
hehehe then I will simply increase timeframe by tenfold. I can easily wait another 40 years or so.
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So like… are they ever going to address the frame pacing issue?
It’s just been straight silence since they dropped redstone. Kinda annoyed how long it’s taking them to fix a very annoying problem. Is it possible this is an issue they can’t fix?
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>>108577295
>frame pacing issue
But enough about JeetForce cards
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>>108577288
>at least 60
Im going to be exactly 87 young, perfectly ripe age for a pc upgrade. imagine the pcs we going to have 40 years from now.
good chance I will be stacking LEV gains (longevity escape velocity) too, gaining a pretty big boost to my potential overall gameplay time.
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I have an announcement to make :
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All of these posters are me.
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Looking for upgrades to my main PC, which has pic related specs
Are there any upgrade possibilities to my main PC, perhaps? I was thinking about doubling my current RAM to 64GB or maybe 96GB, but does that mean I must get identical RAM sticks or can I add different RAM 3600 C16 sticks to work with my current ones? I am also thinking about adding another m.2, either 2 or 4TB... Any other recommendations?
I use my PC for livestreaming, video editing and some rendering. Minimal to zero gaming, though...
I also have a backup PC with these specs:
>Mobo: ASUS TUF B650 Gaming PLUS WiFi
>CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600X
>RAM: Kingston Fury Beast 16GB DDR5
>GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB
>Storage: Kingston NV2 2 TB m.2 nVMe
>PSU: Cooler Master 650w GOLD
>Cooler: CM ML240
Are there any parts on my backup PC that I could add to my main PC, perhaps? Probably not since it's an AMD PC and my main is Intel, so I should leave it as it is, right?
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>>108578139
>I use my PC for livestreaming, video editing and some rendering. Minimal to zero gaming, though...
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you can mix and match ram but you can only run them at jedec standard so probably only 2133mhz for ddr4, that said your pc is good already i wouldnt upgrade anything un;less you can find good prices on storage
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This autistic fuck is gonna punch a hole in his wall in an hour or so when the mod finally wakes up and nukes both his shit threads off the board and bans him you just know it lmao. Make sure to report everyone.
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Hi, my pc that I purchased secondhand recently died on me, so I’m looking to start building one of my own. I’m not 100% sure where to start. Any suggestions on builds would be helpful!
Budget: $1400 max, anything below is much preferred Location: USA Use: Gaming, rendering, streaming Peripherals: All covered. OS: Windows 11
Games I play/expect to play: * Dead by Daylight * Fortnite * Call of Duty * Resident Evil series * RDR2 * Mortal Kombat 1 … just to name a few.
New or used components are okay; 1080p or 1440p; and, at least 1TB of storage and 16GB ram. I also don’t have a Micro Center near me, if asked. I’d like a white/pink build, but I’m open to anything!
Thank you :)
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OK good night. Nvidia anon is probably high on ritalin, tryna swindle his thread into relevancy.
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I really don't get why a lot of users here are saying that they don't care about upscaling because only true rasterization matters. When the game engines require you to use upscaling, when the whole industry is moving toward upscaling, just saying that you only care about pure raster just sound a lot like copium.
It doesn't matter if you have a 7900xt/x and only play on 1080p. FSR4 still would have prolonged the lifespan of your card. The only reason people saying that they only care about pure raster is because we didn't have a great upscaling alternative. And if you say fsr3 is just as good as dlss, then you need glasses.
Making FSR4 exclusive to just the new gen is such an nvidia move. I was hoping that fsr would catch up in the future when I bought my 7800xt. It seems amd is finally catching up to nvidia, but immediately started pulling from nvidia's playbook.
All the AMD fanboys on this sub that love to hate NVIDIA, though with good reason, don't seem to understand that AMD is the biggest fanboy of NVIDIA at this point.
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>clean PC for first time ever
>easy
>apply thermal paste
>videos make it easy
>ACTUAL RETARD
>paste is actually super sticky
>the tube is not as smooth as videos make it seem
>use spatula
>sticks to spatula
>make the actual meme thermal paste image
Holy shit anons, I'm too retarded and I'm super pissed right now at myself, thank god I won't change the thermal paste in a few years, but any advice for retards like me to apply thermal paste?
Just in case I used Thermal Grizzly Duronaut
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>>108578717
>any advice for retards like me to apply thermal paste?
Work smarter, not harder.
These things work better than thermal paste anyway.
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Did a humble PC upgrade today.
I replaced the two fans on my 280mm AIO with these be quiet! Silent Wings Pro 4.
PC runs about 3C cooler now, and the fans are virtually silent.
Nothing flashy, but it's cheaper than upgrading RAM.
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>>108578746
ram prices are not a issue when someone else pays for it
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>>108578818
yes, and also replace all thermal pads with higher quality ones and apply a big sheet of thermal pad that covers all the backplate, all of those things help with thermals and longevity and you only need to do it once, but most people are too afraid to touch their stuff so they don't do it
>>108578795
it will 100% happen and it'll be a bust, "out of nowhere" because everyone will be like you, pretending it makes economic sense until they can't pretend anymore
>>108578812
very few people are paying for the current prices in the ssd/ram market
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>Will it actually make a noticeable difference?
It will not but hey it's easy for next time.
duronaut is easier if you heat up the tube a bit.
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there's a guy on youtube that tests thermal pads and putty, snark's domain, he recommends putty over pads but I like pads more because my case is horizontal, the best ones on his list are upsiren 24w and fehonda 15w, but you should read his list and maybe buy putty
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Really only worth it if you already need to change the thermal paste. In that case you should change out thermal pads aswell as I think somebody else mentioned. Ptm isn't an upgrade it's just thermal paste that last a bit longer.
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What's the verdict on waiting right now?
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I asked in the other thread but back with more monitor related questions. Is there a preference between 27" and 32"? Wondering the best OLED gaming monitor suggestions for a budget of around $600. Also want to know what is the best monitor arm(s) that will hold the OLED monitor (Landscape) and 24" LED (Portrait) together, the Google dev setup. Thanks.
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Holy shit, those HDD prices. I literally went to see if I can get like 8 or 12 TB for my server. Fucking HDD prices are literally worth a down payment on a car. Wtf happened
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>Ai datacenter buying out all of the computer hardware
Fuck jews. None of this money is real anyway and yet they get to buy a couple years worth of inventory off of consumers, and we have to literally pay $1K just for some TB of harddrive.
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>>108580256
You must be confusing it with the MacBook Pro, Mac Studio doesn't thermal throttle, it has a heavy copper heat sink
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Copper is much better at transferring heat than aluminum. Ofc, it's also much better at being heavy and expensive, so going full copper for your heatsink isn't common in mainstream consumer ATX towers.
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I mean 5080 is nice but imagine getting one instead of waiting for 80ti.
Every generation I observed the plain 80 always seemed like a very gimped, overpriced version of an otherwise extremely powerful card and this changed nothing with the introduction of 'titan' or 90 cards.
I just like to get the best value for my money.
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>>108581340
>Steam Frame 'sometime within first half of 2026'
>80 super uplift 'q3 2026'
we eating good this year and the next 2 years we eating like kings.
>j-just 2 more years
It should be around 2 more years! Think about it:
new AMD apus will be insane performance leap for consoles, which in return will increase the average quality of pc games (by destroying limitations lmao). new standards in console performance could hit the market like what? 27-28-29?
>my gentleman and scholar opinion made roadmap:
4k getting cheap, hdr displays, VR tech reaching its maturity, -We are around here right now- new strong apus, new standards in performance, new generation of strong gpus (rtx 60xx, which finally unqeustionably solves all the performance issues around VR and 4k tracing), and around the time when 60xx gpus hit market steam starts selling the updated version of steam frame, with slightly more res, better display tech and all the bugs and issues with steam frame solved and updated.
Less than, within or around 2 more years my dear sirs, and computers will become serious business! (I repeat for the slow autists: standardized 4k cinematic performance, casual, comfortable, affordable VR, computing power go brrrr)
So when I tell you to wait™, I mean it.
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>ASUS ROG Swift OLED
So I'm eyeing up this monitor, a 4k 32" and something that is 144hz or higher but there are many versions, OLED, WOLED, QDOLED. What are the difference between these panel types? I'd like whatever has the best looking colours? I've been using a TN panel for far too long.
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>>108581505
>I wish I bought the 2080ti though
I would power kick jensen's nuts but 80-80ti is always a classic case of saving more by buying more. lately it seems to be the also part of a very strategic, profit maximizing release schelude.
>6090 funny number
the retard number going to increase demand, isnt it?. I also target a 6090. Reason nr1 I wanted the 5090 to be a comfortable 30-50% stronger. (probably around nvidia marketing numbers) reason nr2 is I wanna be the owner of a new gen 90tier slop factory... and it also going to have a funny name.
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trillion dollar company with no concern over the opinions of gaymers they dont have to target shit.
but jensen will have his cringe jokes about it
>and our new gpu -kids going to love this hehehe- the rtx 6070
will do the same with 6090
then jensen's paid guerilla marketing troll bot army and reddit kids will spam and force those meme, because its low effortm cheap and works...
we are in the middle of a dead internet theory speedrun
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>>108581831
most bookshelf passive speakers I know use those speaker cables you either have to screw in yourself or preferable use banana plugs. From what I found now the one you posted has a Speakon NL4 output and there seem to be adapters to banana plugs but I cannot guarantee you in any way that this works cause I never used Speakon outputs myself.
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>>108581814
with datacenters spawning, elecricity bills climbing unreasonably high, water getting polluted, your wank station consuming 800w an hours your best and only long term option is moving out of the city to plant solar and batteries, grow food and fuck prime 21 year old vagene.
honestly I stopped caring about tdp. we getting elecricity cucked you gotta disconnect from the cattle utilities and move away from the city.
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>>108582721
37k is the best score
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the average normie paid a small car for their 4090 prebuilt and its slower than a 9070xt
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This motherboard only has one 4 pin slot, and I have three fans that need to be plugged in. How do I make this work? And there 4 pin adapters I could use or something?
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I'm just in a better place than I was financially and whilst the 5080 is a great card, I think it will have issues at 4K before too long. So, I'm going to spend the next couple of years telling myself that I can justify that 6090 when it comes out. (As long as I can get it close to MSRP)
I didn't even really want to upgrade to 4K, but I was kinda forced into it.
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>I didn't even really want to upgrade to 4K, but I was kinda forced into it.
I'm sitting at 1440p as I prefer fps. The sad thing is even with so much power some games only manage barely over 100 fps at native res. Devs really need to start optimizing again instead of relying on upscaling and fake frames.
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These idiots posting Time Spy/Extreme graphics scores post 2024 are just poorfag coping with benchmarks that were released for the GTX 900 & 1000 era of GPUs.
There's a reason why the creators of that benchmark included Steel Nomad in the free version of 3DMark.
https://benchmarks.ul.com/news/3dmark-steel-nomad-is-out-now
The CPU score is the only relevant Time Spy/Extreme result today, because these ancient benchmarks are CPU/memory bottlenecked on modern gaming PCs.
It shows how well you've OC'd the CPU & memory compared to others with the same CPU.
There are better CPU + Memory benchmarks like PyPrime anyway.
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4090's average is 304 FPS, 428 FPS world record.
9070 XT's average is 250 FPS, 357 FPS world record.
https://www.3dmark.com/search
>the average normie
People with +70ns "tuned" DDR5 memory latencies and 0 3DMark Legendary ratings for their hardware should stay humble.
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>>108582834
Not really.
3 pin is PWM power. 4 pin is DC power.
Most fans can run on both. But, DC is pretty shit compared to PWM.
What you really want to do is get a cheap fan controller that will let you control your fans via that and bypassing the motherboard entirely.
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>>108582814
>the average normie paid a small car for their 4090 prebuilt
Well if they were retarded they could sell their 4090 and buy three shitty 9070's and bellyache on an anonymous image board about how they didn't get ripped off. XX90 series are an investment.
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>>108582866
>Devs really need to start optimizing again instead of relying on upscaling and fake frames.
Never going to happen. It makes games cheaper and easier to make, and dev budgets are already so bloated.
The problem simply isn't bad enough. You have something like RE9 with PT and on a 5080 at 1440p with DLSS and FG it's still only getting 112 FPS. But that's still way better than the console experience. It still looks massively better than the PS5 running it at 30FPS. And all a developer or publisher is going to do is shrug and say "Just turn the settings down, you represent <1% of people who are playing on these settings".
Obviously AMD can't even run it, but they're like <5% of the PC market so they literally don't matter.
All you can really hope for is that you can get a card that runs it at a native-enough setting to not be a huge barrier when using technologies which are going to become more and more commonplace, and hope that they manage to get them looking as close to native as possible. There was a brief window around the time Starfield and Monster Hunter Wilds came out where games were running bad enough for it to actually be a problem that effected the sales of a game. But, that's just not the case any more.
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A Canadian with a tuned 13900K + 9070 XT holds one of the best Steel Nomad records btw.
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*Best of all 9070 XT benchmarks
Yet we ended up with this guy.
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>>108582874
>4090's average is 304 FPS, 428 FPS world record.
>9070 XT's average is 250 FPS, 357 FPS world record.
Which is still a bit sad. There are obviously quite a lot of people with more money than sense (and technical ability). Something is really pulling down that average.
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I will go watch some ZEN 6 porn. You faggots dont even know how good its going to be when those 'morpheus' cpus arrive. (Stays on am5 slot ;) )
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Zen 6 so epic I think I will name my first born son 'Amd'
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>>108582935
It's graphical feature bloat that's making it hard for these games to run at "max" settings.
The avatar game literally hid it's max settings behind a wall, and I think even cyberpunk has a process you have to go through to actually enable max settings.
The days of simply buying the best gpu on the market and playing the new AAA title are over simply because of the options that developers can simply tick a box in ue5 to enable.
Developers know that future proofing their games for hardware a decade out is good business. Look at all tye games that came out in the gtx to rtx transition era that look like absolute shit today simply because the developers had no access to raytracing and modern anti-aliasing.
Go watch threat interactive to see why these processes to optimize games are left to the pages of technological history.
It's always going to be a rush for developers to get bullshots of their latest game running on whatever supercomputer to convince people using potatoes as systems to buy them. The 5090 and 4090 will inevitably fall into the same category as the 8800gt and the 1080ti.
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>>108583052
>9070xt (16GB) - 650€
>5080 (16gb) 1200€
paying almost double for 15% performance increase hmmmm, no, I dont think I will KEK
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>>108583000
It's sad that you're making a big deal out of it.
3DMark benchmark results are published online by default if the program has the network connection to upload results, you need to opt out of automatic score uploads.
Those results include people who were running the benchmark to verify hardware configuration issues. You're assuming those people were unable to correct the problem.
It also includes scores of janky CPU pairing because some guys like to collect Legendary marks from uncommon/nonsensical hardware configs which would obviously bottleneck a 4090.
If people took the time to download 3DMark and run their benchmarks, they'll understand the need to address their (significantly) below benchmark results.
If they can't reinstall Windows, run DDU, install fresh display drivers, or toggle XMP/EXPO on, they don't matter.
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sample size is just one but I tried now a CableMod and a MODDIY 12V2x6 cable with my Astral 5090. The CableMod StealthSense is better to handle with five comps and no sense pin cables but one pin would sit at 6.3 A and as consequence the others went through the roof with 9.1 peak at 600w. The MODDIY cable is worse to handle cause of less comps but the balance is nearly perfect with the lowest being 7.8A and the highest 8.5A. Maybe I was just unlucky with the CableMod cable or those spring leaf terminals of the MODDIY cable actually do something.
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Fair enough, but thays what all these developers are using in conjunction with anti-aliasing. Like I said look at threat interactive video where he basically breaks down the fact that alot of these developers are not only relying un upscaling to get better framerates but are actively cheesing the way that upscaling and frame generation work under the hood to create "higher fidelity" graphics.
Same shit that will inevitably end with things like dlss5.
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>>108583119
only 5090 ownership provides bragging rights.
no shame in being average. just elegantly flash your 5080 (it equals a 5,5" penis), you let people know you are armed and take this seriously. its not like the 5080 is a giant schlong. its like flexing a toyota camri my dude. yeah its nice, it does its job, but its just a toyota camry. better luck next gen, you might get a rtx 69
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>>108583176
>Like I said look at threat interactive
That guy is an actual grifter, I haven't watched anything super recent but the ones I have seen were straight up deceptive. Just him begging for donations with a bunch of tech babble incoherently mixed in to make himself appear knowledgeable.
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>nice trolling
Is he really wrong though? (He's not)
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Neither of those things are necessarily true.
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the original cables that came with my PSU has terminals you can move by 1-2mm. The consequence is that depending on their position they can melt the connector with over 10A or be in balance. ASSUS quality. The terminals on the CableMod cable are fixed in place and look uniform but here I suspect the pins on the GPU are not well balanced. Both the PSU and CableMod cable had the same pin at low ampere but this might be just coincidence.
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>>108583200
>Is he really wrong though? (He's not)
ok run down and prove the statement:
>5080 Is way better Price/Performance with DLSS5 and FG though.
its simply untrue.
dlss5 got me excited tho. meme worthy and the potential immersion gains are too heavy to ignore.
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>Just him begging for donations
Inevitable for anybody putting themselves on camera. My opinion isn't exactly his but he's the only person I know of thats actively pointing out the state of modern gaming graphics design. I don't think its as big of a niche as the gaming industry would have yoy believe. Very few people who actually play video games even know what anti-aliasing even is. Neither do they know or can tell the difference between a screen space reflection, planar reflection, and raytraced reflection.
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>ok run down and prove the statement:
No path tracing :
DLSS, especially preset L can be used at a significantly lower internal resolution than fsr
Path Tracing:
Lmao it doesn't even need to be said
Long Term:
Only one of these gpus will still be supported 5 years from now
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>Can I see it?
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DLDSR 4k@1440p kinda killed my wish for a 4k monitor
The clarity jump is already so huge I can't believe I'm not already 70% of the way there at least.
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ok I let you see it.
leaked fsr diamond* footage
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Can you please help me choose between these?
>Dell 27" Plus S2725QS
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-plus-4k-monitor-s2725qs/apd/21 0-brnd/monitors-monitor-accessories
>Gigabyte 27" M27UP
https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M27UP
>MSI 27" MPG 274URF QD
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-274URF-QD
>Msi 27" MPG 274URDFW E16M
https://www.msi.com/Monitor/MPG-274URDFW-E16M
Or maybe secret 5th thing? How useful are gimmicks like usb-c?
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>>108583189
>steel nomad heavily favors nvidia cards
No it doesn't. The avg fps difference between the 9070 XT and the 5070 Ti for that benchmark is within 4 FPS (9070 XT favored because there's more XOCers for that card vs the 5070 Ti).
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>>108579602
when they said you will own nothing that meant data as well. you will rent ze cloud server and store your data over there. you want your masters with direct access to your data, because its the safest thing to do.
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>alternatively, if the AI bubble crashes
that would mean israel lost which would mean usa sacrificed 350million people for israel and lost. this is the new normal. jews will now start to push extremely hard for survelliance state.
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>>108583543
They're for different use cases
TV are too big and as such have too low PPI for how close you are to a PC screen, unless you only play solo games in which case yes they're the best choice at a >1m sitting distance*
Can't see myself playing any pvp multiplayer game that isn't a fightan or a racing game on a TV screen though
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They were always that bad actually.
Find any PSU cable and you'll see how sloppy the pins are.
It just rarely mattered because there was insane amounts of safety margins on PCIe/EPS cables.
12VHPWR took away nearly all of the margin for error.
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Who is DLSS for exactly?
Playing Crimson Desert at 1440p on a 4k tv with my 5070ti and the picture just looks very blurry and smooth with DLSS on and set to quality. Lots of foliage/grass doing weird morphing shit too. It looks way crisper with it off entirely.
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I'm really starting to have issues with my 8GB of vram at 1440p in almost every game now. Ideally I'd like a 9070xt, but this would mean having to purchase a new power supply and takes me to almost 800GBP, I'm thinking of buying a 9060xt instead for 380GBP on Amazon. My questions are, is the leap from 9060 to 9070 worth the extra price, and is 380GBP (511 dollars) a good price for a 9060 16GB? I have no frame of reference for tech prices, but I am aware everything is fucked everywhere. For clarity my current GPU (6650xt) does work fine, but struggles with vram.
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>slowly but the bubble is definitely shrinking.
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>>108583543
> 4k monitor is scam
I'm enjoying that scam for 10 years now. Started with SLI configurations now using a 4090. No going back, only forth. My next display will be a 5k2k, 5120x2160p UltraWide. Once I get hold of a PTX 6090 i.e.
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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dGPv6h/pny-vcg507012tfxpb1-geforce -rtx-5070-12-gb-video-card-vcg50701 2tfxpb1
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https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/benchmarking-nvidias-r tx-neural-texture-compression-tech- that-can-reduce-vram-usage-by-over- 80-percent
Don't worry.
Nvidia has you covered.
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AMD really catching up to nvidia in video editing now, 9070 xt only 25% slower than the 5090 and davinci was cuda-shill paradise for years, if rdna5 is popular and lots of people buy it to the point blackmagic actually has to improve their stuff on amd's media engine the 9070 xt will age like fine wine for production
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Take it to the help counter before you leave
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