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>What language(s) are you learning?
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

**Comprehensible Input Wiki**
https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Read the wiki:
https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
https://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
https://rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
https://rentry.org/refold
>Non-English piracy sites
https://fmhy.net/non-english

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>rebitugal
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>>222062431
transliterating в as w is cursed
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>>222062431
why are the french saying hello
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>>222063963
It's a joke about French people being called "frogs".
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The books have arrived, now I have to start reading them
>>222062431
>kvak
>kwa kwa
>quak
those are the sounds of ducks, not frogs
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>>222064341
What books?
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>>222064341
Is that something to cry about? Enjoy your books.
Anyway speaking of book imports, the EU is going to start putting up a toll fee on small purchase from non EU countries starting next month. If anyone wants to import books and the like from a non EU country now is the time.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2026/02/11/council-gives-final-green-light-to-new-customs-duty-rules-for-small-parcels/
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Is it bad ideas to learn 2 different languages at the same time
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>>222062431
Kvekk
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>>222065268
Yes, I'm doing it anyway though
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>>222062431
What are you guys' favourite open source software for language learning? I'll start with the obvious:
-Anki (the GOAT)
-FSRS (for making Anki something like 20% more time efficient compared to the old algorithm)
-Yomitan (for continuing Yomichan and adding really good Mandarin support)
I've heard good things about LUTE, but I've never used it.
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>>222062431
Why shouldn't I just abandon Japanese and learn Esperanto instead to make it easier to go back to Japanese?
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>>222065011
>the EU is going to start putting up a toll fee on small purchase from non EU countries starting next month.
The EU, ever on the bleeding edge of the art of taxing everyday goods for minimal gains in revenue.
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>>222070137
can you elaborate on how learning esperantoe is going to make japanese easier?
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>>222070269
People say that
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>>222070137
If your issue is learning how to self-educate on a language you will unironically get more skill in that regard and have a much richer body of input available if you do Latin rather than an artifical Jew-Spanish-pidgin. Even the free word order and synthetic nature of the language carries over.
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>cum cum
Haha :D
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>>222065268
I think the rule is they can’t be similar languages, else you’ll keep getting them mixed up when trying to learn.
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All my spanish inputting has only lead me to curse in spanish instead of english whenever something goes wrong.
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>>222070380
I thought about it and Latin is probably more useful (actually) and more pleasing to read but I don't want to keep hopping languages. For years before Japanese I kept dabbling in languages and I never learned anything. I just want to stick to it until I become fluent.
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How do I unlearn albionese and restore my monolingualism?
I think ill stard widh makingn spelink mistaks on purpos
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>>222065268
It'll take twice as long to make progress in both, which is a big issue because language learning is exponential. The better you get at a language the easier it is to learn more of the language, because eventually you can just read or passively input by listening rather than directly studying.
That's why the typical advice is always to learn one until you can passively input, then start learning the other. Don't start two from scratch at the same time.
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>>222064152
Ducks say crack crack
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>>222070840
Would it be ""кpaк кpaк"?
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>>222069605
Mpvacious is worth mentioning, not because it's good, but because it's open source and has functionality that I really need in mpv. But the UX is terrible.
At some point I will make my own mpv plugin using their code as a reference.
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>>222070534
good luck to you then anon if you stick with japanese. or latin.
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>>222070534
Well of course. Don’t abandon Japanese if your goal is to become as good at Japanese as possible.
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>>222069605
>>222070948
I use Memento: https://github.com/ripose-jp/Memento
I've never used mpvacious but yeah the UI looks brutal. With Memento you just hover over the word in the subtitles and click add to anki in the pop-up. Maybe there's something specific mpvacious does that memento doesn't, but it seems like they both accomplish the same thing.
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>>222071794
I just looked briefly, but it looks like it does individual words? Mpvacious is for sentence cards, and can add the audio clip which is the main functionality that I want. I just need a streamlined set of functions like: extract sentence -> adjust start/end of clip -> verify subtitle text -> create anki card.
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>>222062431
No they say croa
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>>222064341
why do your frogs say 'cum cum'?
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>>222072292
Yeah it's built around selecting specific words, but you can set it to pull the whole sentence the word is in by editing the values in the settings.
I don't think you can manually edit the audio clip with Memento. I haven't had many issues with that because it extracts the audio clip based on the subtitle timings. I just make sure my subs are perfectly timed before I start mining
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>>222064473
Some novels in English and my TL. Stormbringer, Treasure Island, Harry Potter, Don Quijote, Count Dracula, Holmes
>>222065011
Cryin' because other countries use wrong onomatopoeias. I hate EU every day a little more
>>222072374
Our frogs can get laid
>>222070399
You can mix them easly anyway if they're at similar level. I mean, someone stops you and ask about directions and for some reason you know how to say it in one TL, English, your native language, but you don't know how to say it in the other and you're lagging
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Best resources to learn mandarin tones?
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>>222074257
https://youtu.be/onsIEvJxuoo?si=oVK9pEhTkb0lGHNZ
Unironically listen/sing along to this song daily for a month. One section they go tone by tone and the sentence is just describing the tone and then making the tone sound over and over.
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>>222062431
>Finished up all of Adventure Time auf Deutsch
Time to start watching Regular Show in French, I guess? Hopefully the dub quality is good.
What series have you guys been watching to get that audio inpooot in? I think Cartoons are pretty good intermediate material since they're aimed at kids/teenagers so the vocab isn't literal babytalk but it also avoids overly complex jargon and structures.
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>>222065011
>, the EU is going to start putting up a toll fee on small purchase from non EU countries starting next month
wtf this is criminal, not even Brazil (which fucking LOVES tariffs) doesn't tax imported books, it's literally one of the few sensible things they do in tariff policy.
>>222065268
Dutch and German anons last thread mentioned that learning 3 languages at the same time is normal in their Gymnasium school curriculums, I reckon it's doable but obviously more hard work and more time sinking.
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>>222062431
>Kwa/kva
New fucked in the head map just dropped
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>>222077399
Watch some native French content like Tintin
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ALL HAIL GREAT /lang/ and its GREAT people:
I DEFINITELY won't go to Germany EVER, because the process of getting my degree certified + the additional training I need to undertake to work would take 3-4 years (that's like an undergraduate degree's worth of time).
I MIGHT return to German and ACTUALLY learn it maybe a decade from now (in other words, not on my to-do list for now).
I saw a great video of 1980s US special forces and they all looked jacked and every one of them spoke a foreign language.
One bragged about speaking Spanish (KEK, easiest shit), one spoke Russian, one spoke French, and one spoke broken Arabic.
I have been working out for 3 months now and took the /fit/pill and I want to take the /lang/pill and learn one language (just like those special forces).
I am thinking of learning a language that is fun and usable online from my room, so that's Russian.
Do it?
What do you think, PAVEL?
>>222070840
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8NuVeaMFZI
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>>222080197
Learning languages is dumb and unnatural.
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>>222077399
A few years ago, when I was finally turning the corner from learning material to native content, I watched all of Dragon Ball and the entire first season of Pokemon in German and learned a lot from each. I especially liked Dragonball. Loved DBZ as a kid but never watched Dragonball before in English.

Also, for good early input I do think nightly news type stuff can be helpful as it is made for the widest of audiences. I used to watch Tageschau every night for instance
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>>222082579
It is literally one of the most natural things a human can do
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>>222084106
No, it isn't. In natural way of life, person is born and lives where their own language is. They learn it from birth and keep it all life. They don't leave their land and have no need for learning foreign language
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>>222084165
Isolationist Zigger
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>>222084165
what caused your unnatural life where you learned english and were an outlier in your own heuristic?
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Finished reading Dune Messiah in german last night. Had it's moments, especially the ending but overall felt pretty convoluted at times and just not as good as the first book. My mom gave me a german copy of the OG Dune so I decided to read the sequel in german as well but think that was a mistake. I didn't learn german to read english translations afterall, so I think this will be the last such book I read.

Also kind of done with fiction for a while. Next book is gonna be Stefan Zweig's biography of Magellan the explorer and then this book I bought called Russland und China about their relationship.
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>>222083684
I will watch all of dragon ball and then DBZ in Spanish, so I can relate more with my LATAM hombres
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Best channels or sites for learning Swedish?
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>>222065297
>reddit
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>>222089586
I have no idea about learner targeted material, but if you want some native content to input max with check out SVT play. You will need a VPN for some stuff, though that's mostly licensed foreign content anyway.
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>>222089586
Lute + https://rentry.org/swedish-readers

Language Reactor + TV Shows (either rip from SVT or find on rutracker)

There's also some fan translations of Pokémon Red (GB) and some SNES JRPGs if you're into that.
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>>222080197
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>>222094011
Suffocate Jordie
>t. 225x10 bench, latin, french, japanese, chinese, started long after Jordie
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>>222062431
I have never actually seen a real life frog
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>>222096570
you're missing out
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>>222085204
I never learned English, its school education
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learn icelandic, read icelandic, write icelandic, speak icelandic
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>>222098696
Já, herra
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Does reading build only your passive vocab or are you having gains in active vocab also?
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>>222098696
Sannleikskjarnorkusprengja
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>>222100141
I think reading causes gains in vocab all around but the passive to active ratio depends on how active your current level is already. Like, if I read something in my native language I can integrate it into my active vocab effortlessly, because I already have such a strong model. Latin, where I have a much weaker active core, produces comparatively minimal gains in active vocab from reading alone.
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Advice for bridging the listening-reading gap? I can read graded readers with no issue (far too easy) but listening just doesn't cut it. Some examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gvZt7Ukx-I (from 0:35):
>おっ、こっちはブロントサウルスだ!
>ブロントサウルスだ、ふふふふ
>ふふふ
>そう(だ?)よ
>そしてそれは(some kind of dinosaur)

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