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When is the last time you cleaned YOUR guns?

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As little as physically possible so many years in most cases. Unless it's a collector piece I shoot guns until they stop working which pretty much never happens

Pic unrelated
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>>64888562
clean guns?
just buy a new one
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>>64888562
Am I on crack or is the front of the cylinder on that GP-100 shaved down?
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>drop safe
Stop dropping your gun wtf
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>>64888562
>Clean Your Guns
NO
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>>64888562
I need to replace the middle to corret the image un quality
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>>64888623
That's a Wiley Clapp model I think, which have melted edges on the cylinder/frame/muzzle.
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Won me an auction last night on a S&W 500 for $899 ($1000 after shipping and taxes). Gun certainly has some wear in the pics but its all cosmetic and will be easily polished away. Spending the money I saved on ammo instead.
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>When is the last time you cleaned
Ok, I'll do it this time
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>>64888656
I spy that cgs tool. A man of culture.
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>>64888562
I clean them if they're going into the big safe, whatever's not in the big safe just gets shot and lubed until the next time it sees the big safe. I love living in the desert where nothing rusts or rots.
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Is this normal wear for the under side of a Glock barrel? There's some on the top, too, but less.
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>>64888809
jfc warranty that thing before it kills you
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>>64888816
>warranty
this is a $80 overstock part from spectre supply, as long as it emits 9mm from a G35, it's fine
but, looking at that wear, I probably need to find something else, soon
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>>64888834
It were sarcasm, anon, that wear is perfectly normal.
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>>64888849
thanks, I'm too tarded to get that
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>>64888855
It does vary, some do more, some do less, notably people have said the GenV Glocks wear more noticeably than previous ones and it's often attributed to tighter fitment, and the finish on the barrel of course makes a big difference in how it will wear. It's gotta be really excessive to indicate an issue.
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>>64888873
It looked unusual to me, because I didn't even shoot it that much, but it might be because it's the only bare non finished barrel I got.
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>>64888877
One of my P226 barrels got smiley chatter marks after like 3 magazines, my old M&P still doesn't have any after ~7,000 rounds but the barrel hood shows some wear

It be what it do
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>>64888562
.22 enjoyers please how could I custom my MkIV 22/45 Tac a bit ? I want to like it, but I don't currently. Upper rail is too big, irons are quite meh. I'd need a small red dot, not mailbox-tier. Also 10 rounds but i'm stuck with that.
>when I say "custom"
I just mean small improovments with small new parts, not fully different slides or else. The overall aesthetic should remain quite the same I guess.
>also i'm euro
Tandemkross and Volquartsen (and maybe Ruger) are shipping to Europe through EasyExport. I could probably buy non-ITAR parts. But no mags, no full slides or frames, and so on. Any input could help, thanks, moreso from MkIV enthusiats.
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>Beretta rebate is going on so finally a good time to pick up a 96a1
>Check out how much an optics cut will be
>385
Wtf Langdon is out his damn mind.
Has anyone tried dual hammer? Not like it's that much cheaper.
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>>64888987
Langdon included plate, Cerakote, new front sight, and new decocker conversion

Dual hammer does the beretta OEM cut last I checked which isn’t as good and to get it close to how the Langdon cut is
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What should I add to the collection next
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>>64889002
Glock, p365, or another sp101 but in 22lr
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>>64888959
Look at vortex and holosun for small optics. No need for a trijicon rmr or sro on a 22 plinker. You can always remove the rail or irons. Maybe an enhanced bolt or trigger.

>yuro
Yeah can’t help with that.
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>>64889002
a hammarli 208 or other target 22lr
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>>64888959
If you are looking for low profile red dot mount, they tend to be sold by smaller companies like lobos or madd macs, is there anything available for europes?
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>>64889002
Walther P99, PPQ or PDP
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>>64888997
Hmm, I wonder if langstein will knock off some bucks if I ask for no new front sight and no cerakote. Probably not knowing that Jew.
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>>64889057
POV: you asked Langdon for a discount

Get the inferior beretta cut, a few shops do it.
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>>64888959
Grip panels in your favorite color/wood
Ditch the rails and get a Madd Macs or Lobos direct mount and put an RMR or Shield pattern optic on it

>>64889002
.22 silencer followed by a .22 pistola
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>>64888562
Haven't cleaned or lubed my 92 in ages. It's starting to not lock back on empty mags so I'm going to have to lube it soon. Could have been the ammo too.

>>64889057
They don't charge less for no cerakote, but you get it back quicker.
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>>64889118
anons have noticed that between frames the mag release is in a slightly different position so mags can either sit higher or lower in different frames. you might have a low sitting frame so you might need stronger magazine springs (?) or follower tuning or something to get the slide to lock back more positively.
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>>64889179
>OPERATOR
>TACTICAL
>RESPONSE
>PISTOL

This isn’t as bad as “grip zone”, but it’s close.
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>>64889213
t. not an operator or tactical response pistoler
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>>64889217
>tactical response
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>>64888562
>Clean Your Guns
I clean every time after shooting
I enjoy the smell of g96
I wipe down the frame with 91% isopropyl alcohol
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>>64889246
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>>64889218
Do you teach hide in ditch-like-bitch class?
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>>64889247
You can mix some gun oil into the IPA, that way its not fully degreasing the gun. We also sell a break cleaner that contains a very small amount of lanolin. Just enouth to prevent flash rust and dry skin
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>>64889077
Curse you Langdon!
>>64889118
Oh nice good to know
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Langdon cut doesn't seem overpriced, it includes the refinish and plate, and sights. You'll end up needing those things anyway.
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>>64889326
Si si, it’s a good deal senor!
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>>64889334
O sea, no son una tienda cara. Trabajan con Glock y son más baratos que Maple o Jagerwerks, igual que Battlewerx, pero más caros que Wager.
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>>64888809
Wear is actually great. It shows you practice with your funs.
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Touch grass they said
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>>64889287
Frame is polymer. I don't want a greasy frame.
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Does anyone make an extended guide rod for the beretta 92?
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>>64888891
Walther mogs based on this. It's honesty insane how cheap they are compared to their quality. It's a 1/4 price HK for something like a PPS.

Also in other news. Jay at EA told me a slide stop spring for a Five-seveN hasn't been available for 2 years. WTF FN! He's currently having them made as they're a common break item apparently.
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>>64889359
Many years ago I was at the local range and was talking to an RSO I was friends with. He mentioned that it was a red letter day as the man who made his very expensive custom 1911 was coming to visit. I hung around until the man showed up.

I will never forget the look of reverence on the gunsmith's face as his fingertips traced the holster wear on the 1911. The RSO looked a tad worried and apologized for not taking better care of it. The gunsmith waved him off and said "This is what I always hope to see and never do.

Shoot your guns, people
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I bought the XD (non-gripzone) because it looked like the resident evil gun.
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>>64889370
The compensators that are guide rod mounted use them
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>>64889136
I believe I was the one that found this out actually. This was because I got aftermarket baseplates and they needed some fitting to work in all my 92s. I think this one is just dirty. I literally never clean my shit until they demand my attention. Picrel is I think the last time I lubed it.

>>64889179
Really like this. The text is clean, I'd still prefer without it especially the TRP. Not a fan of the hammer or rounded trigger guard.

>>64889287
Can you make something stronger than CLP to get my fucking LMT piston retaining pin to not be carbon locked?

>>64889252
Is there a way for us to share the sg go drills? I'm about to go autismo mode in this app
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>>64889594
No way to share drills as far as I can tell
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I'm tired of fat retard flagging me on the range.
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>>64889657
OH MY GOOOOOOSH SO KEWL
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>>64889594
>Can you make something stronger than CLP to get my fucking LMT piston retaining pin to not be carbon locked?
What do you mean with stronger than CLP? CLP as a lube is fine but as a cleaner its a joke
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>>64889673

Based 1301 chad
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>>64889644
Careful he is going to eat you.
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>>64889681
I took it out today and shot it under with timer for the first time, I can only do .25 splits with a 12gauge… I need to step it up since the LTT videos they were like .15 or something

I want to buy another to fuck around with, like the mossberg/870 conversion/adapter and then using top folding stocks
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>>64889636
F

>>64889668
It was doing a good job breaking up carbon locking but it was only temporary. I didn't want to pour something harsher into it but now I'm kinda tempted.

>>64889673
>>64889681
Anotha one
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>>64889688
I didn’t do this but it might make a lot of sense to make drills for each gun, so you can track your speed with 9mm vs 10mm or etc
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>gave my little sister a bunch of my pistols
>only have a 229, glock 21, and 92 for carry
ough
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>>64889687
>>64889688

They're fantastic shotguns. I haven't had one so smooth and easy to handle since my FN SLP Tactical.

What rounds do you use? I had the federal in the earlier pic but I've since switched to the Hornady low recoil and its phenomenal.
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>>64889699

Those are all great guns at least
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>>64889697
I was going to go further and have drills for holster, low ready, caliber. The gun type settings seem to have no effect which is retarded, and it doesn't seem like you can extend the start random interval?

I'm considering using the feature where it can beep in headphones, it was hard to hear sometimes

>>64889700
Hornady Critical Defense. One of the hottest shotgun loads that I know of.
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/hg/, recommend me your favorite speed strip/speed loader. I already ordered one from 5starfirearms
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>>64889700
Ficochi Defense Dynamics uses a similar wad as Federal Flite Control and is way cheaper. Patterns decent, I never plan on using slugs for HD so I could use a tighter choke
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>>64889710
Winchester Super X on the left, ficochi on the right. I think either 10 or 15 yards I should have written it down.

This stuff is on the softer side recoil wise and patterns tighter than the Federal 12 pellet 00 buck I was using for HD before
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Are S&W revolver grips normally a little sticky? I'm practicing drawing my new revolver and it really likes to bind on my shirttail if it makes contact at all
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>handguns general
>talking about shotguns
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>>64889705
Gun type is for real gun, airsoft, or dry fire. Or different sensitivity settings
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>buy PDP
>shows up
>no proof marks on barrel or slide
>"Made in Germany" on the frame
>serials on slide and frame are totally different
>wtf.png
>have LGS hold it while I email Walther
>apparently the frame is made in Germany, but the barrel, slide, and recoil spring are made and proofed in the US
>no markings because US law doesn't require it
I'm genuinely thinking about sending this shit back and asking for a refund.
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>>64889727
It's been like this for a very long time now, anon, should've done your research.
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i fingerfucked an m9a4 on my last range trip and i really want one but i also dont want to drop $1300 out the door right now
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>>64889732
>should've done your research.
True, but the photos from the dealer had the proof marks. I didn't even know Walther was doing this.
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>>64889727
No antlers, no buy.

Now that I think about, new USP come with the antlers under the trigger guards...are HK USA making the slides and barrels?
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>>64889744
I might keep this one and see how it runs, but this will definitely be my last modern "German" handgun. I don't trust cleatus to make my shit correctly.
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Please recommend me revolvers for concealed carry. PS I'm in California.
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>>64889668
Lube, I’m a big fan of your gun oil.
Have you thought about making an aerosol clp like ballistol?
Take your coom oil and make it a little less lube and a little more cleanly.
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>>64889710
NTA but I also have a 1301 and the Fiocchi worked fine when I first got it but then it didn't a couple range trips later and hasn't ever since. The Remington low recoil stuff also worked the first time when I tried it a couple months ago and then the next trip it didn't. No idea what the deal is.
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>>64889764
literally whomsdtve
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>>64889755
AFAIK, HK only makes the CC9 and the HK45 in the US.

But Walther is a bit sketchy...they are own by a airsoft company after all, and they outsource theirs knives in china, almost bought one thinking it was german.
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>>64889764
based
>>64889769
noshoot spotted
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>>64889756
What's your budget? Also, I don't know your gay state's laws, are there any restrictions on revolvers?
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>>64889764
I know an old guy at my range that owns a revolver with more notches than Texas Red on it. He lives is a really bad part of town.
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>>64889776
$600 or so. Preferably a snub. It must be on this gay list
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/certified-handguns/search
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>>64889789
You can't get a Colt Detective in California? Sad!
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>>64889789
s&w 60 (may be a bit hard to find for 600) or 637 (inexpensive and very light)
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>>64889799
Why not smith and Wesson 442? You can find no lock versions
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>>64889803
Because it has no exposed hammer
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>>64889756
SP101 3" in .357 Magnum
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>>64889771

All HK45 models, full and compact, the CC9, and all VP series.
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>>64889804
The frauds who wrote “combat revolver” manuals and training said that SA in combat is to never be used. That all your shooting will be from DA, wasting time cocking the hammer in combat will get you killed and how light the trigger is an liability
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>>64889764
what does "very few shooters" mean. Like yea nobody at USPSA uses revolvers, but for CCW, there is just "very few shooters" in general. Even cops almost always go their whole career without shooting someone.
>>64889756
340pd or 360pd. Use 38+p if ur a pussy. a snub nose revolver is just about the hardest gun to shoot so you better be well trained if you want to hit a silhouette past 10 yards.
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>HK45 has all the features I want for a carry weapon
>standard 10 round magazine (I live in an unfree state)
>45 ACP for muh fuddstopper power
>DA/SA
>external safety with decocker
>swappable sights
>runs everything
>EXCEPT hardcast ammo
Fugg. I guess I'll try some different brands but that's disappointing. Would be really nice to have the same pistol both innawoods and on the street with the only difference being what's in the mag.

>>64888562
Today, actually. It's long overdue though.
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>>64889810
the 3-4 pound trigger on single action is a "liability" but the same trigger on a 1911 is "tactical." Still, you never see anyone use SA on a iCore match.
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>>64889812
Ben is just being a dick and I don’t know why he gives all these Indian “firearm” accounts engagement

But honestly, revolver shooters aren’t doing a lot of shooting because they’re spending so much time reloading

>>64889820
Revolver triggers IIRC are below 2 pounds when cocked.
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>>64889810
I'm not going to argue with combat revolver clappers, they have their own weed. These revolvers don't look right. Chief's special has a hammer. Consider the following abomination to understand how I feel about removing hammer from a revolver.
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>>64889822
That thing is so sexy
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No reliable gun chambered in a common, known-good cartridge is truly obsolete. Wasting time arguing otherwise is sorta retarded.
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>>64889821
>Revolver triggers IIRC are below 2 pounds when cocked.
Who told you that?
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>>64889710
>>64889713
>>64889768

Bad pic, but this was patterned with Hornady low recoil at 10 and 15. No complaints.
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>>64889821
>I don’t know why he gives all these Indian “firearm” accounts engagement
Ben is cool but he spends way too much time on the internet. He spends all his time teaching classes and shitposting, it's a bit depressing honestly.
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>>64889830
1 lb 9 ounces
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>>64889842
1 lb 13 ounces
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>>64889812
>340pd or 360pd
those are expensive minmax guns that sacrifice everything to be as light as possible
>Use 38+p if ur a pussy
best used with 38+p
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>>64888656
Is this one of those japanese toolboxes? I've been looking at one seriously for this same purpose, specifically it needs to be long enough for a 12" brass bore rod
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since we're talking about revolvers, anyone have experience with s&w model 640? seems like it would be a good carry revolver since it has the internal hammer and is a bit heavier cause stainless steel.
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>>64889846
2.5 lb, but I never shoot it. I put my performance center up for consignment today so I can’t compare.

My model 10 and the M1917 would be more indicative of the revolvers the “combat gurus” of the time were talking about
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>>64889857
Also, I have no experience with modern snubs
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>>64889817
Just use 255 grain jacketed ball.
I doubt the hard cast will really make a huge difference.
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>>64889817
Hardcast is a meme, just run .45 ball. Paul Harrel has some tests on his “bear” meat target and .45 ball delivers penetration.
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>>64889856
It's the best model they currently make if you don't care about weight. You can polish the stainless infinitely and it takes .357 if you really want to. Basically every other concealed hammer j frame smith makes is painted or coated in some way and they get cruddy as fuck after a couple years. When the gun is raw stainless they actually have to pay attention to what they're doing and can't just bead blast it and coat it before sending it out the door.

I like the 60 but I already have a J frame with a hammer and its not really that important.
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>>64889736
> the photos from the dealer had the proof marks
Wrong stock photos for a SKU is unforgivable, I'd be pissed to not receive exactly what was pictured.
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>>64889722
Yeah but you still set that on the drill itself. So I'm not really sure what the point is other than hinting what the drill is. You can just do that in the description though.
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>>64889825
the m1911, carbonated engine, and gamecube are obsolete, but they are still widely valued.
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>>64889817
>hardcast ammo
Get a P220
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>>64889847
they are only like 1100. There is one on caguns for like 900. They sacrifice literally nothing over any other J frame. The trigger pull is actually better because it has a titanium cylinder.

.38+p in a 1.875 inch barrel with only 5 shots is getting close to dangerously underpowered.
>>64889857
MMM model 69.
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>>64889807
>tfw noodlearms had me shaking after several cylinders
>plus uncomfy default grip
I really need to change the grips and workout if only to not appear a suicide risk.
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>>64889884
might as well get a 227 then
>>64889890
>weak
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Advice for lubrication? Been carrying a Tisas B45R for around 2 years now but it's constantly been having failure to feed issues because the slide seems to get stuck moving forward unless it's sopping wet with oil. Tried Hoppes oil and that stuff burns off immediately after a few mags whenever I'm at the range. Tried motor oil (0W20?) and it lasts a bit longer but still experiencing the same issue. Could very well be my weak ass wrists not handling the recoil properly but any advice is welcome. Also picked up a Beretta M9 and worried I'm over oiling it so do let me know what you guys use or where I could go find this info for myself. Don't really trust the people on Reddit for sound advice so I'm trying to avoid that whenever possible. Heavily considering switching to the Beretta for daily carry for that same reason. Thanks in advance.
Oh and before anyone asks why I didn't just go for a glock or something instead of a 1911 to prevent the issue entirely I'm just stubborn as hell and kind of a tard. Just really wanted one as a first gun so here we are.
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>>64889944
>Also picked up a Beretta M9 and worried I'm over oiling it so do let me know what you guys use or where I could go find this info for myself.
I have just the video.
https://youtu.be/p9bOT_d60LM?t=58

Failure to feed. Hmm, what is the bullet doing when failing to feed? It might be more of a magazine issue. Or is the slide like 1/4 of an inch from going into battery. It might be a 1911ism and not a oil issue.

Have you tried replacing the recoil spring?

I use coomlube (nano arms, we call it coomlube since it's milky white), mostly because it's made by an non, but also because it's good.
https://mokasraifus.com/product/nano-gun-oil-universal-50-ml/
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>>64889951
>non
anon, I didn't mean to call him a non
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>>64889908
>227
If it was still in production, sure.
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>>64889956
>won't buy a used gun
ngmi
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What's the best .45 for conceal carry if I don't live in a cuck state? Glock 30S?
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>>64889951
Thanks for the reply. Yep, basically as you described. Most times the slide is just shy of going into battery but stopping short about 1/4 of the way there. Replaced recoil springs with a wilson combat spring (15lbs?). As far as over-oiling I know it's not exactly an issue to have more oil than needed within reason but I hate having it get all over my hands when handling it. Thanks for the tip by the way I'll definitely check out your suggestion.
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>>64889981
>Replaced recoil springs with a wilson combat spring (15lbs?)
what caliber bro.

commander .45 (4.25) is 18-22 pounds, government length .45 (5) is 16-20 pounds (could go lighter but why)

nano arms is nice since it comes with a needle applicator, you don't need alot of oil, you just need oil where you need it. slide rails, barrel lugs, bushing is basically it on a 1911.
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>>64889867
>>64889870
Thanks buddies, I'll buy a box or two and see how the gun likes it. I'll have to watch that video later as well.

>>64889884
I'd rather not give my money to SIG. I own an M18 to practice with for my gun quals but they're dead to me solely because of how anti-consumer they were literally up until the airman got shot.
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>>64889756
>>64889789
>>64889796
Reminder that C&R guns are exempt from the roster, so any gun from 1976 or older is legal. Single action revolvers are also exempt from the roster. Virtually any revolver can be converted to single action, so you can nearly get any modern revolver legally too (outside of modern snubnoses that don't fit the minimum size requirements, but C&R snubbies are still fair game).
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>>64889881
>carbonated engine
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>>64889988
Oh I should have clarified, it's a .45
Government length. Double checked and it's a 16 pound spring I have. I've been oiling just about everywhere you mentioned so I'm kind at a loss as to what the issue could be. Maybe just need to try a new oil.
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>>64890013
Step it up to a 18-20 pounds recoil spring. That’s what I use in my .45s, specifically the 18 lb round wire or the 20 pound flat wire.

Something can be robbing the slide of energy going forward, the disconnector spring tension could be too high, a feeding/magazine issue, or maybe something else.
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>>64890034
Dude thanks so much for the advice I'll give all of that a shot! Have a good one
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>>64890001
>The 92FS and CZ-75 are C&R now
What a time to be alive
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>>64889974

There are a lot of good options, the glock 30 like you said, the USP45C/HK45C, Commander length 1911, M&P .45.
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>>64889974
Make it Glock 41
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>>64889821
Ben made a living shooting paper and pretending he had a clue what happens when the target shoots back. He's a fucking clown.
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>>64889867
Hard cast isn't as prone to deformity and path changes like soft lead encased in copper is. Especially on animals with harder and thicker bone.
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>>64889756
If you want a snub there's the kimber k6s, which might be a little out of your price range. Other than that there's the Diamondback sdr and Smith and Wesson J frames. Smith and Wesson probably have the most spotty QC right now, but best aftermarket. Although most people don't buy revolvers for their aftermarket.
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>>64889856
I carry mine pretty often iwb. It's ok, basic but I kinda want one with removable sights and a shrouded hammer or at least a slightly bobbed hammer. The best thing about it is with rubber grips there's nothing to poke my tummy so it's very comfortable.
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>>64889719
It’s a gun in your hand isn’t it? We should include lever actions
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I remember back in like 2013 people said beretta m9 was unreliable don't get it. hated it in the service. etc. now all of a sudden m9 is extremely trendy and highly regarded. what happened? I've never shot one. was that just glockfags back then fudding or what?
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>>64890594
Factory new 92s are far more reliable than clapped out military m9s.
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>>64890594
The ones in the military would go tens of thousands of rounds without being maintained properly and would be used for shit like hammering spikes into the ground for tents. I work with a guy who absolutely hated the M9 in the military because "the finish had worn off of them so during the day, the light reflecting off of it would blind you at the range". Yeah, no gun is immune to being clapped out
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How come nobody ever recommends or talks about the Sig SP2022? Seems like a well-made firearm from the time SIG was still respected.
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>>64890699
As far as I can tell it's because some of it is polymer. I agree I've always thought they were cool but I guess if anyone wants an older Sig they want to go all the way and have a completely steel gun like a 226 or 229.
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>>64890594

I noticed the same thing, I was here 2011-2012 and the Beretta was reviled, same with the 1911. Now they're both constantly talked about here, not that I have a problem with it, I like both guns.
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>>64890699
same reason why people dont talk about the P220: they forgor
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>>64890699
Its a budget gun with the same issues as the ar 18. Everyone knows its not the best, its not even the 2nd best or the 3rd. It was made to meet a pricepoint. Which is fine in a vacume when its only compared to the 1 gun it was made to undercut but there are a fuckload better designs in the same price range and you also have used guns to compete with. People used to say shit like 2022 is 80% of a 226 at 50% of the price. And its true 80% a good enough gun but that missing 20% you feel it in performance if you ever had the chance to shoot em side by side. The 2022 was a worse gun. They also did some what scummy stuff to keep the price low. This is based off 2010 pricing. Sig 2022 350-400 dollars which sound good right thats cheap. Except it only came with 1 mag. spare oem mags were 40-50 each. Meanwhile the more expensive glock that you were too poor to afford is 500 and comes with 3 mags. the spare mags were 20 dollars. If you wanted 5 mags total all of a sudden what you saved on the cheaper gun is gone. Holsters ahaha.
Then you got the polymer frame. Polymer means light right? Lighter than a metal 226 but still really heavy for a polymer gun. The frames are heavy. People dont want to admit they are poor and are buying the good enough gun with better guns exist. It wasnt cheap enough to be that budget gun everyone would buy. It was cheap for a "sig".
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>>64890699
People used to not be able to shut up about it, because it was a Sig and it was very inexpensive. But they're gone now, out of production maybe? Dried up at least, they're not $250 anymore, so out of sight out of mind
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>>64890728
>>64890749
>>64890762
Thanks for the info, guys. I was curious after rewatching The Bourne Identity
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>>64890800
Lol. The promotional shot on the website has the gun out of battery
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>>64890804
That's funny I recently went down a rabid hole with that too due to the Bourne Trilogy. I was looking into those 2000-era guns along with the Walther P99 just as a thought to find something used and cheap but not super old yet. Haven't bought anything but I still might if I can find a good enough deal on either one.
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>>64888809
Defective. Warranty that shit.
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>>64890649
I had a new old stock issued to me in the army in mid-late 2010s or whatever and I have something positive to say. At least all the cosmetic damage on the clapped out models isn't making them perform any worse; they start out that way. Also a female officer ND'd me with one at the range of fucking course.
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I am one of those freaks who prefers a DAO auto pistol. Which gun does /hg/ think has the best DAO trigger?
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>>64890843
>best DAO trigger?
Sig's DAK system.
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>>64890809
They probably didn't have an actual holster for it laying around so they just grabbed another one

>>64890827
Yeah, I really have an affinity for handguns made from the 70s to the turn of the millennium. I still want a USP even though I have my expectations tempered to the sea floor

>>64890843
I tried a P250 the other day and that trigger was terrible
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>>64890594
People tend to regurgitate whatever they’ve been told, but military M9s were fucked for multiple reasons
>25k round service life per the contract IIRC, guns were shot way beyond that. Same issue with the M60, the frame/receivers were meant to be replaced but never did
>ammo supply infected with proof loads, Olin/winchester accidentally released an unknown amount of ammo into the pool that was like 50-60k psi (double that of standard 9mm)
>improper maintenance, the locking block is supposed to be replaced before it breaks, letting it break damages the frame.
>Army chose cheaper 3rd party magazines that had a worse finish that trapped sand inside the magazine and would cause it to jam in sandy environments
>the gun wasn’t really sand proof, people meme about the big hole in the slide but the bigger issue was sand getting into the hammer strut area fucking with the hammer
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>>64890853
I meant that their friend in the army would tell him that it’s ass and will get you killed and everyone believes him.

The m9 is fine, it just kneecapped by the army for not letting beretta improve on the existing design and shitty mags. Beretta kept making improvements over the years but the army never adopted them, they never moved away from the Gen 1 locking block while Beretta’s Gen 3 might not need to be replaced ever (some people report extreme round counts without replacement).
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>>64889673
>>64889687
Dude, I honestly feel sorry for you. You're clearly passionate about firearms, but you only ever post from indoor ranges, which are abysmal shooting experiences. What shithole state do you live in where you don't have access to quality outdoor ranges?
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>>64890850

I'm similar, 80s through mid 2000s is peak handgun era to me.
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>>64890867
Not him but I only ever shoot at indoor ranges because the outdoor ones near me are run by fudds and have retarded rules. One near me doesn't let you bring magazines with greater than 10 capacity. I live in PA, it's not even a cuck state!
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>>64890867
I pay 400 dollars a year to go to a really good indoor range where the ventilation is good. No rules for rapid fire or drawing from the holster, don’t even need to qualify. The quality outdoor ranges are member only and have year+ waiting lists. Action bays are available at a few outdoor ranges but you need to become an RSO to use them

I am mostly interested in shooting handguns so it doesn’t bother me. I can get a lot of shooting in if I don’t have to wait for ceasefires to change targets
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>>64890850
>I still want a USP even though I have my expectations tempered to the sea floor
Why would your expectations be low? It’s one of the goats.
I hope you don’t listen to one retard who’s only used to shooting tricked out handguns with the latest trigger jobs and optics cuts. He was simply expecting a stock duty grade gun to be like a custom 1911 or LTT 92 just because it’s kind of pricey or some retarded crap.
Go ahead and reply to me guy you know who I’m talking about. Give me that (YOU). I’m waiting.
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>>64890906
>It’s one of the goats.
no doubt
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>>64890867
Nothing wrong with a little lead poisoning. My indoor range is usually empty so fuck it.
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>>64890909
USP9 MY BELOVED
>>64890902
Drawing from the holster usually ends up with retards shooting at their feet.
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>>64889744
The USPs are still made in Germany. I don't recall the specifics, but something about German proofing law changed, so they don't have to put the antlers on the slides anymore. That's why newer production has the antlers lasered on the lower instead.

>>64889771
>>64889808
There are some HK45s manufactured in Germany, but the majority that you see in the US are made in the Georgia factory. The VP9s were originally all made in Germany, but in 2020 production also began in the US. The CC9 is the only handgun from those mentioned that is truly 100% only ever manufactured in the US.

>>64890895
I actually shot at a popular (i.e. CROWDED) indoor range last weekend for weather (pouring rain) and logistics reasons (meeting a coworker midway to shoot together) and holy fucking shit it was such a terrible experience.
>range rents full auto + people with super safe AR-15 SBRs blasting on either side of you
>bad ventilation, hard to breath
>non-stop gunfire so can't communicate for shit
>can't draw from holster
>can't engage multiple targets
>can't move and shoot
>can't use a shot timer cause too much gunfire
>regulated time on range is strict
>crowded with long waitlist
>amateurs and tourists galore
>only one person can shoot at a time unless you want to pay double for another lane
>garish LED lighting
>expensive to boot

I feel blessed to have access to multiple outdoor ranges with tac bays of various sizes and extremely long ranges. Going back to an indoor range again was really eye opening. If it were all I have access to, I probably wouldn't be as into shooting as I am today.

>>64890867
Grim.
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>>64890925
I accidentally swapped my last two replies. Gomen.
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>>64890906
> Go ahead and reply to me guy you know who I’m talking about. Give me that (YOU). I’m waiting.
I will admit my LTT USP with a match hammer had an exquisite SA trigger that would print one hole groups at 7-10 yards due to the OPTIC CUT and SA trigger on par with a 1911. 2.5 or less pounds.

The DA trigger was pretty bad, worse since I was comparing the full hammer down DA trigger to a beretta while the USP is supposed to be at half cock.
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>>64890920
a guy shot himself with a P320 there a few months ago, the RSOs warned him
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>>64890925

Yeah, I was just pointing out what is manufactured in the US by HK right now. I'm glad they keep the USP german made, its hands down my favorite pistol.

Separately, on the range issue, I have the misfortune of the outdoor ranges near me sucking total ass. I only go if I have to zero a rifle or whatever, otherwise I shoot rifles on the family land (five hours away).
The indoor ranges here are actually super nice and not run by angry old autists.
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>>64890867
My issue is outdoor ranges are an hour or more away. Plus, so I hear anyway, they're more regulated for the privilege to use their facility compared to pay for a lane and shoot. An effective filter I suppose, but not friendly to a poorfag new shooter.
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>>64889644
If I show up and there are more than 1 or 2 other people on the pistol range, I go home. The average American does not have the mental capacity to safely handle firearms. I've seen things at gun shops and public ranges that have made me question whether we should actually let these people own guns.
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Shooting indoors is a great way to see if you can perform under stress.
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My advice to people seeking good ranges is to shoot local USPSA matches. They'll be held at places that have tac bays. The other people competing will also tell you where they train too. This will key you in to better ranges if you're struggling to find them through Jewgle. Ofc, it's entirely possible you just live in some God forsaken corner of the US that doesn't have good options.

>>64890965
That's really the only real benefit I can think off (aside from weather considerations).
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>>64890906
>Why would your expectations be low?
So I'll be even more pleased when I get my hands on it
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>>64890965
What stress?
>>64890977
>local uspsa matches
What if they don’t do any here?
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>>64890991
>What Stress
Shooting indoors is a very stressful thing for some people, just look at this thread.
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>>64890991
>What if
Have you checked practiscore, or are you asking hypothetically? If you don't have local matches or ranges, then that's unfortunate for you.
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>>64890984
Kind of what happened to me desu.
I thought it would be kind of bad but it was in fact quite good.
I always thought they were fuckhuge guns but was surprised they’re actually a pretty normal size; even the .45 version is the size of a Beretta 92. It certainly fits smaller hands better than the Beretta.
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>>64891020
That girsan is actually heat

Does it run?
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Shooting in the woods is so comfy. This isn't an option for people in most states. Heck, you can practice drive-by shooting if you want.
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>>64891020
Luv me some Browning designs. Anyone have experience with the new MAC Hi-Power repros? Who actually makes those, I know SDS just imports everything in their catalog.
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>>64891026
It is an option but I drive a lowered s2000 so I can’t get into the woods
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>>64891024

Like a tank. Just got it last weekend and immediately put 300 rounds through it no issue. Fantastic shooter at 15+ yards too. Bouta take it out again today.

I'd might wanna switch out the slide stop for a shorter one, my monkey thumbs kept getting in the way of it. Excited to carry it tho, been rockin a Glock 23 for the last decade.

Wonderful chonk of steel.
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>>64891036
>I drive a lowered s2000
BASED
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>>64891046
It’s a shame that custom hipowers never caught on with people, the FBI used some but they dropped it for single stack .45s (after Les Baer / Para Ordinance double stack .45 wasn’t reliable enough).
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>>64891028

I have the L9A1 copy, I fucking love it. Its worth swapping out the extractor spring, though, like in all hi powers, but it shoots fantastic.
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>>64891058
>Browning Higher-Power
NGL it looks pretty cool
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>>64890594
The mo was junk. They cracked, broke, failed to function. That's what happens when you use one. They are popular now because people aren't using them hard. It's a bunch of range queens that think they know. Paper punchers shooting what amounts to low recoil training ammo and thinking they know better than the soldiers that lived with the failures. There is a reason the Marines held on to the 1911 platform till 2023. It's better.
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>>64891070
(You)
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Knowing P320 will be the meta in ~20 years because reens used it makes me sick
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>>64891046
>shooting women with cancer targets
Ummm... >>>/pol/ is that'a way, sweetie.
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>>64891110
He’s training for his Canadian healthcare license exam
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>>64891110
>shooting women with cancer
It's the humane thing to do. Just can't bait them.
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>>64891080
look at the bright side, anon.
there's a chance that some of its fanboys will cleam themselves out from the genepool by carrying it
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>>64891129
It will be probably fixed at that point there'll be a M18A4 or something that actually works well
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>>64891117
LMAO
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Posting "hand" guns in /hg/
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What slide should I get for this frame?
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>>64891222
A Glock slide
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>>64891238
And cut it?
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>>64891256
Do whatever the fuck you want with it faggot I'm not your mother holy shit
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>>64891222
You should throw that frame away. Buy an aftermarket one with the proper grip angle. Then get an aftermarket slide. And aftermarket recoil spring. Aftermarket lower parts kit. Aftermarket barrel. Literally nothing Glock. The best Glocks have almost no Glock parts.
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>>64891272
#glockperfection
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>>64891222
Anon, this is your mother. I want you to be a good boy and put a Colt 1911 slide on it, okay?
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>>64891279
>>64891277
>>64891272
>>64891258
anon just join a discord or something. talk to new people.
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>>64891272
>handgun of Theseus
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>>64891197
Took this after my range trip yesterday. Friendly reminder to clean your guns! >>64888562
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>>64891295
What’s the 1911 with the squared trigger guard?
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>>64891311
Turk clone of the Staccato XC. I've been bad about logging round counts but I've put roughly ~1000 through it and the only failure has been due to a light strike. I think it was an ammo thing since I just bulk buy whatever the cheapest non-reman brass case in bulk.
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>>64891350
Top right? Not turkcatto
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I clean my guns every chance I get. It's relaxing.
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Shooting and then cleaning a carry is always satisying.
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>>64891374
Ah, she's just a 22. Browning makes these cute downscaled 1911s in 22 and 380, and I think it's fun having 1911 manual-of-arms but smol and shoots 22 LR instead of 45 or 9.
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>get into shooting
>fun and engaging for the year or so
>going to the range multiple times per month and getting the fundamentals down, dry firing a lot
>fundamentals solid, want to do more
>no practical shooting clubs/matches of any kind in my area
>every range is infested with fudds
Well, it was fun while it lasted. Guess I'll just start collecting.
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>>64891516
PSA has good deals on surplus Beretta 84BB Cheetahs and CZ82s right now if you wanted one or two cool pieces of Euro history to collect.
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>>64891516
Any steel challenge?
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I am enjoying the RXM
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>>64891516
I can't imagine that one of the RSOs at the range you go to can't recommend a way to improve
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>>64891557
wow damn that really is just a gen 3 glock 19 huh
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>>64888585
I’ll allow it.
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>>64891516
I bet you can tighten up your groups more
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>>64891541
Those barrels are cool. Are Wilson and Nighthawk the only companies that ever made/used them?
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>>64891647
I saw Les Baer made some under the “Prowler” model line. They were popular for competitive shooters to eke out more weight without going full sight block or ribbed barrel. I can attest they do cut down recoil versus a standard bushing 1911, nighthawk claims it tightens the lockup so you don’t need as heavy as a recoil spring.

I saw a STI 1911 with one.

Unfortunately the barrel maker who made the barrels has closed their doors. You could do the same with welding a EGW Cone Comp and trimming off the comp but for what purpose, you have a compensator already!
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>>64891570
It looks like what every custom glock that isn't a race gun or meme project ends up looking like.
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>>64888562
Postan' time.
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>>64891610
Oh I definitely could. Maybe I need to change my mindset and do best I can with what I have. Stop aspiring to practical shooting and just get super into target shooting. I have access to a 100 yard range, so maybe I could make accuracy at distance my niche.
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>>64891775
Hell yeah!
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>>64891668
This blank could be cut down too. How is the barrel on that Elite Professional made if you can tell?
I assumed Wilson/Nighthawk were using barrels that were one piece to start with, but reading a little more about cone barrels you fit the hood, then attach the cone, and fit the front of the slide. Is that why cones are more accurate? Otherwise it would just be a bull barrel with more weight at the end which is what I thought before. Who used to make those barrels?
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>>64891775

I'll be doing something similar with my USP45 Tactical (I'm >>64890946) I have the TLR3 on there now but I'm going to get the rail adapter and put a TL1 HLX on it. I emailed KT Mech and they said they can easily make me a holster for it.
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>>64891792
>>64891801
Please do not look too closely at the rail attached to my gun. Thanks bros.
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>>64891799
The true wafered bull barrels are monolithic, one piece. So an extra wide piece of bar stock is used to machine the entire barrel so the wafer is as thick as the slide.
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>>64891775
What's the fucking point of spending money on a USP tactical just to cheap out on literally every other component? You're the guy who buys a full Daniel Defense AR and then sticks a fucking Amazon optic and foregrip on it.
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>>64891830
He’s European and selection is limited.
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>>64890910
I always shoot indoors and don't even have any lead poisoning.

>>64891117
Fucking kek
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>>64890946
Do you have a Mark 23 to try that TLR-3 on? I'm curious if the USP lights will fit mine.
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>>64891058
Custom hipowers never caught on because the best hi power trigger is worse than a $300 1911 trigger.
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This time the hose wont squirt in my eye :D Also lable machine got pimped to be fster and produce less fucked up labels. Good shit
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>>64891880

Sadly I don't, though the Mk23 is on my list. AI says it won't fit, take that for what its worth. I plan on relegating the TLR3 to my compacts.
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>>64891830
See here for the answer >>64891832
I'm currently trying to get a good rail from DefenderCo but they are sold out and i'm not sure the guy will send it outside the US. About the light, it's rather simple : Olight in the only 100 bucks model available. Streamlight goes for x3 or even x4 here. I just can't let myself getting fucked this rough. Microcomp goes for 100 bucks, from the US. Sights cost me more than 200 bucks, imported from Israel. The X-Grip style mag extension, imported from the US too, with a serious markup. I'm waiting for an extended mag lever from Spain (60 bucks). Every mag, 15 or 18 rounders, goes for 100 bucks. The can I need to buy will cost between 550 and 750 bucks. And so on.
also
>money on USP Tactical
600 eurobucks slightly used, stock, in very nice condition. I paid twice the price for my brand new Glock 45. Used USP are not considered expensive nor rare in Europe.
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>>64891902
I have the rail adapter already but I was just curious if the lights made for the USP would fit. Mixed information on the internet.
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>>64891775
>For USP FULL-SIZE FLAME
I hope that Olight doesn't detach from your dust cover and blow up at your feet. Godspeed anon.

It's a pretty cool setup though. How do you like that Hogue grip? You should also add an extended mag release to finish pimping it
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>>64891775
Embrace tradition. Reject modernity.
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>>64891942
The texture on your USP grip looks amazing. The texture on mine is too smooth.
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>>64891923
>olight flame
See>>64891914 but yeah
>extended mag
See >>64891914 again ; I ordered it, waiting for 6 months...
>hogue grip
I do like the standard model, on both my USP, my Glocks and my Ruger. They handle quite well. The beavertail model on Glocks is too slippery tho, I don't use them anymore. In all fairness, I'm thinking about switching all my Hogues for basic hockey tape or else. I don't know.
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>>64891775
You are the European anon, right? Your build is awesome anon!
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>>64892004
I'm a europeon yeah. If I wasn't I'd post a USP with a real rail, I promise.
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t. noguns eurofag looking to buy first piece

I'm leaning towards a DA/SA (probably a HK USP), is that a bad idea for a first gun? I'm looking to do some casual range shootan and possibly CCW if I manage to get the license for that and not just have it locked in a safe unless im going to the range.
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>>64892035
>is that a bad idea for a first gun?
No, as long as you practice with it often (as you should). If you can master the DA/SA then you will find it easier to shoot pistols with any type of trigger. Don't let strikerbros scare you away from DA/SA, it's really not as hard as they make it out to be

How likely is it that you'll get this CCW in a timely manner? If you can get it easily or quickly and are into HKs, then go for one of HK's compacts (USP compact, HK45C, P2000/P2000SK/P30SK) since those are not too bad to carry while also being fun to shoot at the range.

If the CCW is a long/difficult process, I'd go with a full sized handgun first because you'll be more likely to practice with it and you won't be carrying it soon anyway.
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its so funny how quickly this general went from mass dick-sucking the beretta 92 to the USP.
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>>64892035
personally I'd recommend a glock 48 if its reasonably priced. its big enough to not be unfun to shoot but slim enough to CC easily.
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Haaaaaalp!!!
Bros, where the fuck can i get a couple 15 round mags for this px4 compact??
Why are they so hard to come by?
I just got this gun for a EDC and i really like it but it only came with one mag
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>>64892017
I remember you feeling insecure about your light and rail adapter. You got an awesome gun Anon, people who you might think criticized you sure own a hi point, a dagger or some other lowly glock clone.
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>>64891532

Who the fuck does PSA get to write these? This was painful to read.
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>>64892119
The dagger is based thougheverbeit
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>>64892132
probably saying that in response to boomers asking stupid questions
>>64892114
I'm not seeing any anywhere :(
should have thought of that before you bought it lmao
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>>64892132
Probably AI
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>>64892114
RTG parts seems to have some.
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>>64892076
>If you can master the DA/SA then you will find it easier to shoot pistols with any type of trigger.

That was my reasoning, and the lighter trigger after the first shot seems like a really good feature.

>How likely is it that you'll get this CCW in a timely manner?
The process can take around 2-3 months. It's not that long, the catch is I need to give a reasonable motive to own and carry a firearm. I believe I have good reason to carry one, however that is up to a commission to decide and that is inconsistent at best.

Regarding caliber is .45 reasonable to look at, or should I stick to a 9mm?
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>>64892228
9mm is so much easier to shoot for a beginner.
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>>64892228
>is .45 reasonable to look at, or should I stick to a 9mm
What is your local price difference?
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>>64892223
Thank you fren
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>>64892235
To be fair I haven't looked at it prior, but I checker now and the price per bullet seems to be pretty close. Even then, price isn't a very concerning factor for me at this stage of my life.
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>>64892262
In US it's between 5:3 and 3:2 ratio and considering how close they are at making hole in paper at close range, with 9mm you just get more bullets to practice.
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>>64892228
Another nice thing about DA/SA is that it's effectively always a SA after you fire your first shot, with the bonus of being able to "restrike" without recocking the hammer or slide in the event of an exceedingly rare light strike. With a USP you can carry it decocked and on safe for the added peace of mind, and depending on how fast things are starting to go south you may have enough time to bring the hammer back to be ready. HKs are pretty solid all around if you have the money for them.

As a 45 fudd, 9mm is good. Much friendlier recoil to play with, faster velocity so flatter shooting, ammo is easier to come by, more rounds in the magazine, more guns chamber for it. Genuinely, I tell my friends that if they have to ask just stick with 9mm.
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I hit 30 and I now got a strange urge to get a 1911 in 45 and get my gf pregnant.

The biological clock is real.
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>>64892303
Weird. I hit 27 and had a strange urge to plaster the wall with my brains.
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>>64892273
Cheapest 9mm is like 40% cheaper than the cheapest .45 I can find at a local gun store's site, but looking at the averages, not just the cheapest ammo price difference is probably around 20%.

>>64892292
>I tell my friends that if they have to ask just stick with 9mm.
But then how will I pretend to be Solid Snake with a baby MK23 SOCOM??
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>>64892303
I also want to get your gf pregnant
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>>64892102
i want a 92 but thats just because i have aspergers and am fixated on it
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I coonfingered a USP last week and it felt chunky as fuck.
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>>64892312
>But then how will I pretend to be Solid Snake with a baby MK23 SOCOM??
Guns for funs need not follow any rules, besides the rule of cool. No "practical" considerations need to apply.
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>>64892303
I hit 28 and realized I wasted my youth and missed key developmental milestones necessary to be a considered a normal person.
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Finally finished fitting this cheely steel grip. A tad too heavy for carry, back to the drawing board for the ultimate conceal carry battle pistol project.
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>>64892383
>ooo oof sorry i cant develop as a person because i didnt have a gf in highschool!
>gotta be a chud now, sorry!
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>>64892415
really, the full-size 1911 that is 100% metal is too heavy to carry?
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>>64892321
Yeah, me too.
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I need to finally clean the cat vomit of this piece of shit.
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>>64892303
>>64892307
>>64892383
>>64892417
i am 26 and well ahead of my peers in all metrics and im still an angsty chud that wants to punch holes through my drywall
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>>64892426
It’s a 2011 broski, it’s just on the edge where fully loaded with 10+ rounds of 230 gr .45 it’s too heavy.
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>>64892438
I was well ahead then threw it all away. I regret my decisions everyday.
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>>64892432
Jennings anon! Hi!
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Took my turk GI 1911A1 and USP45 Tactical out today, I forgot how much fun it is to shoot .45
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>>64892442
>fully loaded with 10+ rounds of 230 gr .45
god I need this
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>>64892417
I wish it was simple as getting a gf
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>>64891777
Witnessed!
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>>64892442
Boner. I need one of those novak delta rear sights so bad. I emailed novak about it but they seem to have no interest in bringing them back. Maybe harrison or dawson would do it.
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>>64892516
Mine is a Millet rear sight, not a Novak.
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>>64889808
>>64890925
VP9s are still made in Germany, including the VP9A1 models. Both my wife's VP9A1 K and my F are imported guns, and both were bought last year. If it doesn't have German proof marks, it's because there's a workaround for guns solely marked for export and HK were being jews about it for a while there with the VP series. Thankfully both my wife's and mine have the proof marks, just on the trigger guard instead of the slide unfortunately.
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France makes any handgun?
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>>64892606
The one where you pull the trigger and a flag comes out maybe
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>>64892615
lol
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>>64892606
Manurhin makes finest revolvers for the french gendarme. They might also have made the famas, but that's not relevant here.
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>>64892636
the GIGN doesn't use the manurhin anymore, they haven't since like 2002 and even then they only kept them around for morale
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Anyone else go shooting today? Sunday evening is my regular range time, shot these plus a turk 1911, turk BHP, and a glock 43
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>>64892132
The average American reads/writes at a 5th or 6th grade level.
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>>64892114
https://www.beretta.com/en-us/product/beretta-px4-magazine-9mm-15-rounds-packaged-JM4PX915

One of the good things about beretta is that they sale almost everything on their own site.
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ok, stupid question time. I've been out of the pistol game for awhile, but lately I've been considering getting back in. I'm after something hammer fired, optics ready, full sized for home defense/range fun, 9mm or .45 and preferably sub $1000. Any thoughts would be welcome.
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>>64892875
https://www.beretta.com/en-us/product/m9a4-full-size-FA0060

With the rebate, it's gonna be close to $1,000
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>>64892875
For $1k I'd look at budget 2011s
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>>64891668
Who was the barrel maker that went out of business?
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>>64892875
Kimber Warrior DS if you can get it below 1k
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>>64892946
I don’t know, that’s the reasoning given by Wilson and Nighthawk discontinuing it.
Perhaps the juice are behind it, they want to circumcise our barrels
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>>64892415
>cheely steel grip. A tad too heavy for carry
nigga I could have told you that. Carry guns didn't almost entirely transition to polymer because it looks cool. Everyone wants a metal gun but nobody wants to put up with metal gun shit.

>>64892705
I wonder what the level is if you exclude browns who are barely literate and white trash who dropped out of high school.
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>>64892766
Thanks...i actually looked the day before i posted my question and their site said the mags were unavailable
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Visited a workshop for the disabled, that was chilled :D
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>see thread
>want to get another gun (already have two)
>realize I'd have to practice with more guns every two weeks
>tfw can't even do the grip trainer-with casing in the middle drill for more than three trigger pulls
>don't even do timed drills, just punch paper
>lose desire to buy
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>>64893411
Just buy more ammo then. If you havent stocked up on your carry ammo of choice here is your sign.
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>>64893430
Last time I was in a fun store, instead of getting a nice M9A1 I just bought more practice ammo for the same price.
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>Management called and closed the office for the day
God damnit I wanted an easy 8. I guess I'll swap the screws on my optic today. They finally came. Fuck you Fedex.
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>>64892885
>https://www.beretta.com/en-us/product/m9a4-full-size-FA0060
>>64892935
>>64892959

Thank you
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>>64893479
>tfw HKParts shipment got delayed over the weekend
>delayed again due to blizzard
Even when there's no inclement weather, HKparts orders seem to take forever to arrive. I'm convinced they tell USPS to go as slow as possible
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>>64893514
>I'm convinced they tell USPS to go as slow as possible
The last post master general was a fucking retard who "reorganized" different parts of the mail delivery system and actively made it worse in the name of downsizing. The pay is also mostly dogshit unless you're 7+ years in (can take over 10 to top step depending on the craft). At least we blew 1 billion on a shit new vehicle for thousands of carriers that can't actually replace the aging fleet fast enough. Lmao.
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>>64893411
Lots of ranges will let you rent the cool guns you want to buy, get it out of your system
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>>64893561
None in my immediate location
t.cucknifornia resident
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>>64893514
>UPS
>USP
huh
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>>64892615
That's not funny
>>64892636
I'm talking semi auto handguns.
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>>64893611
Isnt there a hollywood gun range or is that Las Vegas.
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>>64893479
>Tfw easy day due to blizzard plus my +2 mag followers/springs are coming in for my 365
Maybe later this week the snow will be handled and I can do a reliability test before installing them in my carry mags.
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>>64893630
Anon... how did you know I was getting USP parts in my USPS shipment
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>>64893635
You don't really have many autoloader options. Unless there's something I'm missing, this is probably your best bet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_Mle_1950

I see them here in local gun shops in rural PA from time to time so they can't be too rare. As for the Reddit-tier French comments, just ignore them; real Americans never forget the French contributions since our country's inception.
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Guys, today the stranger thing happen to me, as usual I was field stripping my Glock 17 and as I was pulling the barrel out it got stuck in the slide for some fucking reason! It got really stuck to the point I had to tap it with a rubber hammer. I can't be the only retard who this happened to.
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If you’re in line to buy the HTX-1 from optics planet, STAY IN LINE! They cannot make you leave
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>>64893700
Like, stuck a little sideways, not properly locked in?
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>>64893611
called2arms in modesto.
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>>64893895
>>64893895

New thread, migrate whenever
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>>64892454
How've you been? One of these days I'm gonna actually film myself shooting them.

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