You don't need a holster

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>>64893904
You absolutely do if you’re going to carry a real gun around all day. I swear to god if you post some pipsqueak .32 or snub nose revolver you put in your pocket once a month.

>>64893904
There's only one type of gun I carry without holster and it's a setup not recommended anywhere. Most guns need holster.

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Man I'm a little nervous. My Bodyguard 2.0 is my first owned gun. I take my shooting test for CC next Sunday. I have shot it a lot, but I'm still what I think is a beginner in this world, and the distance is I think twenty-one feet. I can't go to the range till I'm back in town with my guns.

I think I will pass as I have apparently vastly more experience than the goddamn people who are signing up for the class. Shit, I thought I was irresponsible doing it with like 6 months ownership + shooting and consistency. Some of these people said shit like

>I have never shot a gun
>I don't own a gun
>I've held a gun six times in my life, and fired two shots

WTF? Why would you want to carry a firearm around if you're not going to devote time to gitting gud? Like seriously, I was over chilling and talking with the instructor, trying out his unloaded spread of handguns, clearing jams, following the drop-mag-rack-twice-visually-physically-inspect-firing-chamber shit like it was second nature, because it is. I like guns and I like being alive and I like others alive, so I was kinda terrified walking out of when class was over. I'm more frightened of gun owners than what's on my streets -- people who had to be taught how to check for an empty chamber MULTIPLE times and are now walking among us (tho I plan to carry chambered if I pass).

Any other anons getting their permit soon?

Pic is my BG 2.0 next to my ORB

>>64893950
>Horizontal
FUCK

>>64893950
Mentally ill individuals with such anxiety issues shouldn't have guns

>>64893950
You're going to be in for a rude awakening when you go to the wrong range and half of the people there flag the shit out of you and nobody cares.

>>64893958
I'm not crazy anxious, just shocked nigga. Makes me feel better with where I'm at tho

>>64893962
>rude awakening
I'm going to catch some bird shot bouncing around from idiot sneaking his shotgun in

>>64893971
>bird shot
You'll be fine. Watch out for the boomers with their revolvers and 1911s.

>>64893950
I don't know what the test entails but you'll be fine. As long as you follow the basics, you'll do well. I'm guessing this test exists just for CYA purposes

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>>64892606
The MAB P15/PA15/F1
(It's terrible to shoot)

>>64893950
Nice orb bro

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>>64893985
Oh also Unique made a bunch of old ass busted ass ratchet ass .22s, .380s and .32s until the 70s or perhaps later, the most modern of which might be the DES 69? (nice)

Also the 1935 A and S which are ancestors of the MAC50 mentioned

>>64893978
Kek

>>64893980
To get a permit in my state, you need:
>8 hours of classes (2x 4hr classes)
>pass a 50-round shooting test at 21 feet with X accuracy on target
>WRITTEN test (it's just safety and situations)
>Wait a week after turning in your passing grade to the sheriff
>Basically get booked for no crime -- fingerprints, lineup, all that
>Wait another week
>Permit arrives in mail

I'm still doing it all. I hope some of the people in my class retake or study harder. I heard some crazy answers when the instructor was asking.

>"Can you shoot a guy who HAS a gun, but since you drew on him, he's running away and has his back turned?"
>Of course not, wtf
>Several of them say "absolutely" because, "He's got a gun and could hurt others."

Another fucking zinger from these guys
>"Alright, so when you carry, you're going to want to carry with hollow point ammunition-"
>Dude raises his hand and speaks
>"Actually I'm renewing and I've always carried ball munitions"
>Instructor just pauses
>"Well, you really should be using hollow point."
>Gravy seal keeps going
>"See, I don't want to shoot someone to kill them -- I think that'd be a bad look in court. So I shoot with FMJ so I can hit the target, but not kill it."
>Instructor sighs and tries to tell him that FMJ penetrates really easily so if he has to draw and shoot he could easily hit something through his target
>Hollow point will drop someone real fast
>"No, I'm not gonna try and take a life." <---- this guy is trying to carry a lifetaking weapon around

The ex-mil guys who were doing the class and I talked a bit and basically said we both need to wear body armor now

>>64893998
T-Thanks... y-you too

>>64894022
>>8 hours of classes (2x 4hr classes)
>>pass a 50-round shooting test at 21 feet with X accuracy on target
>>WRITTEN test (it's just safety and situations)
>>Wait a week after turning in your passing grade to the sheriff
>>Basically get booked for no crime -- fingerprints, lineup, all that
>>Wait another week
>>Permit arrives in mail
What the fuck

>>64894028
I know, I know. It's actually a lot compared to others. Still, I actually am glad it exists. If all this scares off the tards from having guns around polite society, so be it

>>64894022
This is insane. I legit can't believe this is America
>"Actually I'm renewing and I've always carried ball munitions"
1911 owner spotted

>>64894038
No man, he says he's a gun enthusiast. I'm confused too. Zero understanding of what I learned when I was dong my RESEARCH GODDAMNIT!

>>64894022
Running away with back turned gun in hand is a retreating threat that can turn around at sny moment not an ended threat.

>>64894022
>>Several of them say "absolutely" because, "He's got a gun and could hurt others."
Is this a wrong answer?

>>64894030
>Still, I actually am glad it exists
Any sympathy I had for you is has been replaced with ten times the contempt. What an unAmerican opinion, holy shit

Even if you're just trolling/ragebaiting, the fact that many people exist with that mindset disgust me

>>64894044
>>64894046
Aight maybe I'm wrong. Help me understand.
I assume that if you shot a dude in public in his back when he's clearly trying to flee that'd be murder. Like how people catch those charges when pharmacists chase people out of their shops with guns and cap them on the ground.

>>64894047
Aight thank you for letting me know you will no longer (You) me. I will miss it though...

>>64894051
Chasing down a guy is one thing, but if hes just retreating while still armed thats a threat.

>>64894051
Prove he was trying to flee.

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>>64894055
>>64894059
Ah, gotcha. THAT makes sense to me. I guess experience would teach me what the difference looks like. But I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction on that.
>M-Maybe... I'm the retard...?
It's not impossible lads..

Another hypothetical then: let's he is armed, but you shot him and it staggers him enough to where he's practically unable to operate his weapon. He is still trying, but you're not sure he won't bleed out first
>two piece?

>>64894071
>He is still trying
Do yourself a favor and mag dump him. Then call a lawyer. Then call the cops and say nothing.

>>64894022
cucknifornia?

>>64894071
I bet the prosecutors could argue that you could have been able to disarm him in that state and render aid. It's not right, but it's probably what would have happened.

>>64894071
Shoot until the threat has ended

>>64894084
Nah, but we adopt a lot of their laws

>>64894051
It really depends but there have been several cases where shooting someone in the back has been justified. In most states* defense of other people is covered in lethal force.

There’s tons of videos of criminals shooting at people while running away, really all you need is that you saw them still pointing the gun at you.

Video cameras make things more difficult, since self defense is base off your reasonable belief that your life is in danger but cameras could show a different story. Like you thought he was shooting at you but it was actually a car backfiring or something. Even if you were wrong but there was more than enough reason to believe you were right you would be covered: see a very realistic looking fake gun. In reality your life wasn’t in danger at all, but there is beyond a reasonable doubt that your life was in danger.

>>64894022
Can I come to your state and take this test for fun?

>>64894093
just be thankful your state didn't adopt our psychological exam requirement ($400 btw).

Look at all these infringements holy fuck. Fuck you SCOTUS.

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Love my AIWB from Legacy Firearms.

>>64894105
Go for it lad

>>64894109
WHAT. surely you fucking jest

>>64894220
It's actually $412.25 via Core Psych Corp (five hour psych evaluation btw).

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>>64894129

Also have this Vedder light tuck, it's alright. Kind of want something better.

>>64894244
based TLR6 user (it sucks and I have one on my hellcat)

Recommend me an IWB holster for a 92FS and one for a Gen 3 Glock 19

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>>64894244
>>64894257
I have the light only model. I went into a pond with it on (intentionally) a few years ago and the light turned on by itself (I know its not water proof) and wouldn't turn off until it took the batteries out.
I disassembled it and left it out to dry for a week. Sill works.

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Instagram guntube retard influencers are downstream of /hg/. Lest we forget who runs the world.

>>64894267

Mine is the light only model also. For what it is, I like it alot.

>>64894267
>>64894272
I just like the way it looks, so it stays on the 'cat

>>64894270
I want to do that but we cannot be sure anyone is going to be 100% honest with the 10 second count. Also I won’t do one hand since one hand shooting is for gay faggots.

>>64893895
>Holster Edition
That reminds me, where do I even start with chest holsters? It'd be nice to have the flexibility to choose between AIWB and chest rigs for different occasions.

>>64894270
I like the new challenge (I have many B8 targets)

>>64894272
>>64894276
For what it is, it's better than no light. I just wish they made a water proof version.

>>64894270
I'm a YouTuber with 200 subscribers and I make videos about what we talk about in /hg/ all the time

>>64894357
currently looking at a Viridian
https://viridianweapontech.com/new-ctl-custom-for-springfield-armory-hellcat-and-hellcat-pro
but I can't find a holster for it.

>>64894391
>can't find a holster for it
For a mini-rail solution it looks good. I wish S&W offered the Shield 45 with a mini rail. But yeah holster compatability is the big one.

>>64894358
link ur channel CHUD

>>64894358
>I'm beating you by a couple thousand subs
ha!

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>>64894270
Memes are so millennial unc-core and cringe.

>>64894636
You're 26 buddy not 16 now zoomer shut up and behave.

How feasible is it to get a USP in .45 for the purpose of sticking a light and a silencer on it so I have a home defense gun that won't blow out my cat's ears?

>>64894645
Cats are nature's silencers. Like a pillow silencer but wet.

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>>64893895
pic related when i carry my p229, it's one of the old ones with the legacy slide and no rail so it's difficult to find compatible new holsters for and shoulder holsters are comfy for big pistols. it conceals pretty well under a coat.
i don't love the thumb screws but other than that it's good. i can draw pretty quickly from it and with it drawn up tight it doesn't feel loose or weird. it's also much better for riding in cars.

>>64894645
Pistols with suppressors still require hearing protection, they are not whisper quiet, the chamber pop is will cause ringing in your ears unless you’re already deaf like me. If you want something really quiet you should look at smaller bore, like 5.7 suppressed or .22 lr/wmg

The bigger the bore the bigger the noise signature, 9mm 147 gr suppresses better than 230 gr .45 ACP.

>>64894645
subsonic .45 is louder than subsonic 9mm

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>>64893805
Sorry for replaying so late.

Like this, I swear to god, I could not take the barrel out.

>>64894645
What kind of cat are we talking about?

>>64894856
thats normal because of the coating. just give it a tap.

>>64894756
Which .22 works best with a can and a light?

>>64894856
Yeah I did that few times too

>>64894051
Hey dipshit what happened yo the pharmacist was he paysed a 911 call while dying dindu was choking om blood and was gave him an anchor shot after saying hold on he is still breathing.

>>64894030
Except all the tards got the exact same license you did lol.

>>64894756
>chamber pop
Putting thumb on the back of the slide is only scary the first time

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>>64893895
>holster edition
I know people used to CC G19s all day everyday for 30 years all around the world, but I can't manage to CC that small thing in a comfy way, even with a clipdraw, with my regular everyday white collar deskjob family man attire. And it still lacks a light. Granted that +1 base pad is far too big, but it's the smallest I can find in my non-US country. I mean do you need a special gun belt for your office suit pants in order to carry such a tiny gun ?

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>>64894641
I'm only 38½ years old, chud.

>>64894716
Is that a strapon harness?

>>64894645
The USP requires an extra adapter to attach a light. Not a great option if that's your stated purpose. If you already own the USP then have at it, but if buying new, might as well go with a modern 9mm, because this >>64894771.

>>64893895
>Which holsters do you use for CC/competition and which will you never use again?

My Muddy River IWB has handled 3 different CC options over the last 10 years. I love it with all my heart; it is the best holster I've ever had (and I paid $300+ for a Wright Leather OWB to try that, only to hate it after a week - great holster, just OWB is not my thing). A fucking $50 holster has lasted me 10 years.

Muddy River doesn't offer a soft leather option for a light. I just bought a Craft Holster to try out that can accommodate a light and optic for my CC9. I'm optimistic; will be sad if I have to move on.

>>64894716
unfathomably based shoulder holster enjoyer

this is retarded but I want to carry my Five-Seven in one, it's (and the mags) absolutely fucking gigantic but 20+1 rounds of high velocity blue tipped ouchie bullets with .22 magnum recoil that's so light you could but a WML on it and it would actually make the recoil even lower actually sounded extremely rad, especially in the winter with a coat

no fuckin clue where I'd get one, probably custom I assume

>>64895004
Try doing that on a hammer fired.

>>64895045
Clipdraw theres your problem.
You need a real holster. You might think i need the smallest gun nah what you put the gun in matters more. A good belt and holster are needed. Clipdraws like wearing a plastic bag on your feet and calling em shoes.

>>64895095
where and how do you wear it? I've got an FN Reflex (the newer ones with the manual safety) and even with that small of a gun I stab myself in the thighs or stomach depending on the ride height

I got a Bradec holster since they're cheap and I was gunna use it as my like, tester holster to figure out where to even wear one or if I even like having kydex shoved into my cock area. I'm not worried about the gun ever going off or anything even in a nylon holster with the manual slide safety... so maybe a soft holster and mag carrier might work? I've tried it at like a 5-6oclcock and it's actually pretty comfortable. I really hate not being able to sit down or bend over without having to adjust my shit or just deal with getting jabbed somewhere... so the 6oclock was actually really comfortable but then your gun can show easily if you bend over and obviously has slightly more difficult access and its not out infront of you

>>64895095
Damn, I'm checking out their site now. Which one(s) do you recommend?

>>64895125
>where and how do you wear it?

I'm left handed, so 9 o' clock.

>I stab myself in the thighs or stomach depending on the ride height

I don't do appendix carry so I can't comment on that but when I'm out at lunch or wherever, basically anywhere sitting down, it's like a slight tug on the belt/pants. I carry with a ratchet belt from Nexbelt. I barely notice it but I notice it enough to feel weird when I am not carrying.

>I've tried it at like a 5-6oclcock and it's actually pretty comfortable

That is how I carried for many years, though since I am left handed that was 7-6 o'clock. Then I migrated to 8 o'clock. Finally I went with 9.

>>64895126

Muddy River? The soft-leather IWB. It's the best IWB holster I've ever had. It weighs nothing, has a stout belt clip, and never fucking dies. There is zero break in period, the shit is super flexible.

>Oh hey that's a good deal
>Seller does not sell to your state
REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>64895211
Then why not link it here, pal?

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>>64895211
Something the matter with your keyboard? Message him. Communicate.

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>>64894716
>Sig in shoulder holster
Hell yeah!

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>>64895211
>>64895278
>find a deal for a proper-ass full on registered-as-a-firearm, FFL required, background check, form 4473 modern long gun
>i am in a non-cucked state
>the vendor also knows what he is doing and knows the recent laws
>it arrives via USPS directly to my doorstep (signature required as a safety precaution rather than legal requirement) because you can do that in Texas.

then I woke up to see a message from the retard boomer on texas gun trader saying he only sells to LTC holders on a constitutional carry state

>>64895327
That greentext makes 0 sense. Apply yourself.

>>64895327
You can actually receive a gun like that in Texas? Who does 4473?

>>64895327
Enjoy it while you can, buddy. Those Cali transplants are growing.

>americans talking about american legislation
hand....guns?

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>>64895443

>>64895437
yeah bro the problem in texas is definitely the 2,000 white californians moving there, rather than the infinity mexicans and indians

Is there something better than racking the slide of an USP? The sound is just beautiful.

>>64895501
Don't tempt me, Frodo. I've wanted a USP for over 20 years. I've bought many guns since then but never owned. I'm practically edging.

>>64895501
Is it the ear-piercing rusty squeak that does it for you? Or the brittle glassy/ceramic clink of the slide? Or maybe the chattering of the spring coils scraping the dust cover?

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We USP postan?

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>>64895518
hey Burt!
>>64895527
yep

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>>64895501
>>64895518
You should here this piece of shit get racked. You can actually hear the recoil spring bunching up and scrapping the zamak slide. I told another anon that I might clean off the cat vomit and shoot a video of them firing.

>>64895594
*Hear
I swear I'm not retarded.

>>64895527
I love German/Austrian arms maker mottos.
>HK: No compromise.
>Steyr: Count on it.
>Glock: Perfection.

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>>64895505

I took my USP45T out yesterday after a couple months of not shooting it. Fuck, I had forgotten how fun it is to shoot controlled pairs with that thing.

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>>64895527

Yes.

>>64895537

Based

>>64895600

Whats based is that the original for HK was "In a world of compromise, some men don't." It got progressively shorter as the world got gayer.

>>64895600
What about Walther? Or Umarex--Umasex? What ever the parent company is call.

https://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-steyr-s9-9mm-handgun

Someone buy this so I don't

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>>64895608

>my photos in charge of being right side up

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>>64895527

>>64895632
>HK compromised on their motto of no comprise

>>64895635
One thing I need to do before dying is to decock a P220

>>64895645

True (sad)

>>64895649

Theres a P220 anon who posts in these threads, he kind of has me hankering for one since I like older sig designs and I love shooting .45

I've told my local FFL to keep and eye out for a 92fs and maybe I should tell hi to add P220 to the list.

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>>64895537

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>>64895654
they are pretty good. Kinda flippy. Im still looking for a p220 target master or X6, and a 227 ofc, since the grip on the 220 is a little small for me.

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>>64893950
>>64894022
>bodyguard 2.0
>hollowpoints
kek I can barely get Winchester white box to cycle properly, let alone Sig Elite Defense.
TUI ammo on the other hand cycles like a dream.

>>64895689

Killing the P227 is a goddamn travesty

>>64895278
So many sellers won't listen to reason, you know that living in OR. Some retards will take things a step further than literally every other vendor because they don't want to have to think about it or read anything.

>>64895639
Trip on seg I haven't seen you in a while

>>64895677
Vibe

>>64895700
Obese

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Why would anyone buy one of these things? What's wrong with you people?

>>64895634
I've had this bookmarked forever but I can never get the motivation to buy one, and I'm suspicious if the one I get from the bin will be as clean as the pictures
https://www.sarcoinc.com/steyr-m9/

>>64895721
Yeah but some do it just to filter out idiots and will ship. I've had that to happen two or three times, they just flip a toggle and enable your state if you give them good reason

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>>64895527
I've never even held a USP in my life, kek

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Universal Sexy Pistol

>>64895799
tight tolerances

I took the Viridian CTLpill (with holster)

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>>64895834
Tight clearances

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>>64895868
HNNNNNNG

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>foreign polymer slop

I wish to divest all of my .22lr handguns and possibly my beretta 92fs. What single handgun should replace them.

>>64895868
>>64895799
>>64895527
tfw sold my mk23
$3400 makes it hurt a lot less

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Found on plebbit

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>>64895971
GEE Lock

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>>64895980
I already have one so far. Gen 5 17. What else would you get? Mainly looking for full sizes.

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>>64895971

>>64895972
No doubt

>>64895909
That cat having a seizure? Unfortunate

>>64895990
The 92fs is a fantastic gun. Cz has a superior trigger though. I could just get a five-seven and cope through the ballistics .

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>>64896000
I was saying get a 2011, just as a range toy or a project gun

Kimber Warrior DS, it's a budget 2011 at 1k with 9mm, .45, 10mm, and a 10mm long side variant.

>>64895929
cool stock image bro, I like the elite tactical ballpoint pen

>>64896006
all my nighthawks are in the shop :(

>>64894017
>ratchet
2012 called. They want their slang back.

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>>64896038
Oh, behave.

>>64895099
There's a few companies that make them, Falco came up pretty quick in a short search.

>>64896005
Don't put anons on game until we get one to mog them with

>>64896038
2020 called they want their fent addicted delinquent back

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>>64895980
Glowk

>>64896272
I find it fun how pistol buttstocks and even pistol caliber carbines are back in vogue. The frontiersman mentality of using the same cartridge in your lever action and your six shooter being modernized into using the same mags in your handgun as your long gun is really cool. I really gotta hunt down a Camp 45 to pair with my 1911.

>>64896297
Im not a fan of rifles in pistol calibers, here its take away a license slot (its like self cucking). US Lube would buy AR9 for plinking desu

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>>64895501
I bet you hear it.

>>64896405
I forgot to admit, I am slightly retarded and can't convert videos for shit.

>>64895305
What mag holder is that. Falco doesn't make a horizontal closed holder.

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I have both kinds of holsters. Bianchi Pancake and Bianchi Shoulder rig. Everything else goes in my pocket.

>>64893919
It's too bad you wear those faggot skinny jeans. Men wear clothes with pockets that are actually useful.

Now, where all the white women at?

>>64896314
If you don't appreciate the value of a .22lr rifle, you are a no-guns brown

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>>64896628
Im shooting pic related since 5-7years

>>64896000
>I could just get a five-seven

outside of feels theres no reason to get a XxFive-seveNxX when every other company makes a comparable or superior product for cheaper.

>>64896635
>peep scope
boom boom

Is your name Robert or Bob by any chance, gramps?

>>64896628
.22lr in general sucks. It’s not so much the round, but the guns.
>>64896670
Comparable in being shit ballistics maybe.

How do I cc in sweatpants?

RANGE DAY

>>64896761
babby browning or some other lightweight pocket gun

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>>64896889
Tomorrow in my case

>>64896761
>his penis print isn't bigger than his cc print
NGMI

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>>64896761
Arrowhead tactical sweatpants are approved by Colion Noir, so you know they're good! He even wore them to the Joe Rogan Experience podcast, where he discussed how they good they are for conceal carrying a handgund (such as his Staccato CS). Point being, if they're good enough for a based Black man like him to naturally and organically name drop on the JRE podcast, then they're definitely good enough for a lil yt boi like you.

https://arrowheadtacticalapparel.com/

>>64896761
I recommend J frame + Desantis clip grip. No belt. No holster. Exposed hammer for an extra retention point. Perfect with string tie pants.

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>>64896761
Enigma

>>64897165
baste

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>>64895527
Damn, Expert 9 with a threaded barrel and a can looks nice. Shame I can't find that in Europe. But I won't complain and buy a can for my Tac9 and post it in here.
>>64895537
I was convinced you had a cool special NERV case until I bought my own USP and realize it's a sticker on the regular case and I can have the same.
>>64895123
>clipdraw is your problem
I don't know really ; with the clipdraw or in some basic kydex, both are cumbersome and i'm switching from one to the other unsatisfied.

>>64896272
>>64897052
Will the prosecutor be more severe if you shoot a based black man with the whitest painted Glock (from Austria) ?

Ramjet y/n glock?

>>64897561
why do you need to comp the absolute wrist shattering power that is 9mm? what are you gay.

>>64897667
I hope you dont even shoot 9mm what are you a fucking woman? Shoot .38 special +P out of an airweight with wood grips like a man.

>>64896405
>wide putin synth starts playing

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>>64869283
Did you ever pull the trigger on that aluminium framed M&P 2.0? You should be aware it's the worst of both worlds because it's a striker that doesn't have the reduced mass or recoil dampening of a polymer lower and a metallic frame without a crisp trigger, pronounced safety nor a hammer to thumb during holster manipulation. The only real advantage is that the slide is better sealed in extreme conditions but this is a double edged sword because it will be more difficult to remediate after being compromised

>>64896038
Stereotypical negroes still use the term 'ratchet' because it's how they think 'wretched' is pronounced and spelled

>>64897667
But its 44% off felt recoil

>>64897667
Training with a compensator allows you to get better at shooting in a way that shooting one with out doesn’t allow. It doesn’t eliminate recoil at all but reduces it, and “should” allow you to shoot faster controlled pairs. It’s all about shooting faster and training to predict what your muzzle is doing under recoil.

As a duty or defensive gun, less recoil is less recoil. The ramjet avoids issues with other compensator set ups.

I saw a post in another thread about the lengths people on 4chan go to seem to “not be a try hard” they literally try hard to not seem like someone who’s minimalist. “Look at my stock Glock!!!!! (Proceeds to spam it for months)!” “What’s an out of production super old gun I can buy but some how keep up with modern guns????” “Look at me I carry a 80 year old revolver” they spend more money, more time, to get something worse than a modern equivalent, and also proceed to suck at shooting. But since they aren’t a “tryhard” they think they’re superior and if they had a red dot, a 9mm, or an actually good gun they would be just as good as anyone else and that they’re purposely handicapping themselves which actually make them the better shooter.

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>>64897725
45super black cherries. at least for now. we have bears here.

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>>64897835
>Training with a compensator allows you to get better at shooting in a way that shooting one with out doesn’t allow
niggers tounge me anus lad. stop posting

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>>64897835
There you go again, dredging up the past completely unsolicited
>duty or defensive gun
That anon never even specified what his philosophy of use for it was. You're just projecting your own compensator preference for carry and drilling
>avoids issues with other compensator set ups
It's still introducing even more muzzle flash to your sight picture
>ramjet
More like Ramjeet for wristlets that get filtered by 9x19, get fucked

Any anons have experience with Odin holsters? Looking to order their IWB Valknut model for my USP compact 45

I dont see any problems in wanting a low recoil 9mm for fun this conversation is just pure feeling and emotion.

>>64897929
>>64897948
Two people feeling that they’re called out

Hmm

About shooting with a compensator, it allows isolating different skills. Like training your trigger control at speed. Seeing the red dot faster, shooting a heavier recoiling gun and then a lighter recoiling gun, you see what your input does to the muzzle. Shooting faster will make you better at shooting faster, getting a comp makes you shoot faster. You will be better without the comp when you take it off.

>>64897964
A compensator isn't fucking weighted clothing from Dragonball Z. It's a helpful tool for experienced shooters but a beginner's trap for novices

>>64897964
cute opinion do you have a single fact to back that up or just guntubers telling you the ramjet is da best for s00per fast splitz.

>dryfire one handed with all fingers on the gun
>dot doesn't move
>dryfire with just the thumb, web of hand, and trigger finger
>dot moves up and left.
How do I get gud. I shoot low left after I've shot about 200 rounds of earthshattering 9mm btw

>>64897969
I literally just regurgitated what multiple grand master, world champion shooters, post on the internet for free

>>64897968
How do you get experience? By doing things

If the compensator makes him go out and shoot more, so be it.

I agree though, it’s a beginner trap but they could always take off the comp and realize they shoot just as fast

That settles it. Im gonna get a Ramjeet.

>>64897985
>grand master champion shooting
>Duty/Defensive gun
pick one you fuckin retard.

>>64897991
I regurgitated Ben Stoeger, Joel Park, and Aaron Cowan, and some others.

Less recoil is less recoil. If there was such a compensator that allowed less recoil but without the history reliability issues with attaching mass to the barrel, then why shouldn’t it be used?

How can I carry a single action revolver without looking cringe? Do I have to become a rancher?

Ramjeet vs pmm vs kkm barrel+comp?

>>64898013
I think ramjet was the lowest profile and attaches without threads (positive).

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>>64897962
>IWB Valknut model for my USP
I've read good things about Odin Holsters. Since you have USP money then you wouldn't be worried about their price above the just-as-good brands like WeThePeople

>>64897986
Aight, let us know if it affects your slide reciprocation or filthies your barrel muzzle worse


>>64897964
>feeling that they’re called out
You're very obviously referring to the Colt Police Positive with
>super old gun I can buy but some how keep up with modern guns????” “Look at me I carry a 80 year old revolver
The namesake of which isn't even in the thread in spite your attempt to summon him with a crotch post >>64897165
And
>stock Glock!!!!! (Proceeds to spam it for months)
is just you whinging about the past because your head is leased out rent-free

>>64898004
there is no free lunch anon. the fact you dont understand that is truly frightening.

>>64897962
>>64898036

I was actually going to post asking for a holster for my USPc45. I'd like one that can take it with the TLR3.

>>64898036
No I was calling out that retard (not ppanon) who wanted a single stack sig DA/SA for carry while ignoring the S&W 3914 which is thinner if not the thinnest DA/SA ever made

And many others over the years who as newguns pick deliberately bad and obsolescence’d guns with hard to find parts, holsters, or magazines even.

You’re taking this quite personally. How about you just stop being a try hard

>>64898038
The low profile threadless attachment of the ramjet reduces the amount of mass used on threading, iirc it’s aluminum, so a small aluminum compensator shouldn’t cause any reliability issues. (Should not). I don’t remember anyone having issues with it. People had more trouble with over tightening WMLs than with the ramjet

>>64898070
i work with metal and guns. what the fuck are you even saying.
>people have trouble with WMLS
okay? retards are retarded

>>64898083
Screw on WML attachment on Glocks would cause malfunctions if it was too tight

Per Streamlight
Some GLOCK .40 caliber pistols, models 22 and 23, exhibit feeding malfunctions, either nose
down or nose up (stovepipe), when used with tactical lights. The problems tend to occur with
individual guns, with some pistols becoming totally unreliable while other identical, even close
in serial number sequence, guns have no problems. Most models 22 and 23 are reliable.
A sensitive gun may malfunction with any tactical light - the TLRs, the older M models, and
even GLOCK’s own brand. There is evidence that the problem sometimes develops with use and
may progress until the pistol is unreliable, even with no light attached.

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>>64898118
thank you grok, for reminding me that 40cal is fucking gay

>>64898011
Conceal carry a Ruger Single Seven.

>>64898048
I just checked the Odin valknut I mentioned. They don't have an option for one with a TLR 3 sadly.

>>64898011
carry an NAA

>>64898167

Damn. I'll pribably have to go custom, sadly

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>>64895476
White Californians can't live without 30 illegal aliens doing all their chores for them on a daily basis, immigration numbers exploded in large part because the new Caliwalis need such a large volume of 'help' just to function.
>inb4 bullshit
I see it every day. The average white Californian is akin to an Dubai slave owner who keeps his workers in cages at night. The Californians just add insult to injury and give the neighborhood that would've been affordable to you to their help instead.

I've never seen a Springfield gun in these threads. Is SA gay?

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Can anyone give any knowledge or advice on target pistols? I wanna do Bullseye shooting and maybe one day olympic style shooting but I don't really know where to start. Would something like a Ruger mk IV be okay or would I need to look into something like a Hammerli 20x series pistol or would getting a Pardini with the 22lr and .32 conversion parts cover me for everything?

>>64897346
Depends if its lubed with the whites gun oil,too. Ultra Arctic is white AF

>>64898426
Burt has a poverty comp 5 inch (prodigy) that he reportedly said was his favorite gun to bring to the range

I really want to get the new Master Class 10-8 performance but I have issues with some of the features

Suppose you are limited to 10 round magazines in a carry pistol. Given 2 pistols exactly the same size (both straddling the line between compact and full size) and the capacity constraint, would you rather carry:
>9mm pistol with 10+1 capacity
or
>.45 ACP pistol with 8+1 capacity

>>64898511
I would recommend the 9mm, but personally carry a .45 1911 since I know I’m good with it. I might be even better with a 9mm/.38 super 1911 but those are kind of gay.

Putting rounds on target is more important than effect on target, as long as you’re above a certain ballistic threshold.

My friend who doesn’t shoot, owns one gun too large for carry, is asking me this bullshit. He literally wanted to get a .40 since it’s more powerful within the 10 round limit. A compact .40 will kick his ass and he could barely shoot a 9mm IMO. I want to pistol whip him the next time he says this dumb shit

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Sig and sloppa

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>>64898646

>>64898036
The image wasn’t to summon that faggot but to actually show that I know what I’m talking about when carrying a gun. Not larping with some airsoft holster or pocket carry once in a blue moon. I literally carried a compact, extended spare mag, in sweat pants to pick up some dominos

>winchester 115gr brass fmj for $0.22/rd, free shipping
not great not terrible

>>64898706
9mm is doing ridiculously good, I'm looking at .308 on ammoseek and M80 NATO loads have gone from 65 to 75 cpr in 3-4 months.

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>>64898678
The only reason I got it is it was their $10 deal, and I'm out of leftovers and need to go shopping.
Usually if I get it I'll get 2 tallboys but I should stop drinking for a few months.

>>64898800
how long will it last though?
i'd wager until the midterms, and then ill regret not buying more for the next couple years

>>64898829
Unless your state is having local gun law bullshit going on my recommendation is to buy ammo now. Best case cheap US made slumps to 18-19 if the Republicans sweep so its not going to get much cheaper than now.

>>64897561
They're nice, I like mine. You don't need it for 9mm but it can be fun.

>>64897757
I don't think anyone has ever quantified the "recoil absorbing" characteristics of polymer, I see this fudd getting thrown around constantly with zero substantiation. It's 9mm it's not going to be that bad.

As for your comments on the reliability wrt the Garand test: the mag got stuck, which they never cleaned or switched out. It's entirely possible the mag got shit inside and it wasn't the gun itself. Not really a double edged sword given it's proven itself to be the most reliable striker fired gun in many tests like this. Consistently beats the 92 because it doesn't have an exposed firing pin to get all fucked up.

Is New Republic good? Looks like they're the cheapest where I order. I pretty much only shoot federal since that's the only one I really have experience with.

>>64898426
I really wish I could buy guns from HS produkt.
Buying a rebranded gun quirks my ocd.
Id get an echelon or .380 hellcat.

>>64898426
I want to buy an M1A does that count?

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>>64898511
Literally me. Just pick whatever makes you confident and that (You)'ll go to the range to train with, that matters a hell of a lot more than caliber. I'm a 45 fudd because of said magazine cap and having confidence in ye olde muh stoppan' powah round, but outside the beloved 1911 world the Germans make cool 10 rounder 45s.

But I also tell my friends that if you have to ask, stick with 9mm. Sufficient for the vast majority of situations and well-developed thanks to a century of military/police/civilian use. There's a reason why everyone who got 10mm and .40 curious for a decade all went back to 9mm, barring a few outliers who genuinely found their niche better served by the other caliber.

>>64898904
>handguns

>>64898927
He wanted to talk about Springfields!

>>64898932
>Handgun General - /hg/

>>64898827
Honestly a screaming Sicilian supreme pizza is as good as most chain pizza IMO

The other day I ordered dominos at work, spend 25 minutes picking it up, then ate a 3/4 of a large pizza in 4 minutes

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>>64897312
>I was convinced you had a cool special NERV case until I bought my own USP and realize it's a sticker on the regular case and I can have the same.
I printed it myself, some other anon did the same but on a bigger scale, that was cool

I should post on /ak/ the thing I did for my desk, a NERV and H&K logo

Why is /hg/ markedly less homosexual than say /arg/?

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>>64898975
Pic related.

>>64898990
Because you can buy a rifle at 18 but a handgun at 21

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New year new reloading project.

Manufacturing 30 Mauser/tok brass out of free 223 will unlock ammo independence!

>>64898998
I don’t understand that shit at all

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>>64898998
>in america you can buy an AR-15 but not a beer if you are 18 yo

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>>64898070
>s&w mini 39
Based?
I didn’t even know that gun existed.
It looks cute, like a Serbian Baby tokarev

Should I get that for my marathon gun? Ngl. Looks better than the sig.

What's a good pocket holster?

>>64899036
In America you can drive a two-ton pickup for five years before you're allowed to buy beer. Laws don't have to make sense in any context, except for the chamber where they're voted on.

>>64899039
I tried telling you about it years ago you stupid fucking faggot, kill yourself

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>>64899064
I had to grow up to appreciate DA/SA and then the logistical advantage of a subcompact parabellum.

Also
>find a S&W 3914 at a good price
>but it says Ladysmith
MFW

I've only ever shot striker and DA/SA guns, but SAO is starting to intrigue me. How much does the thumb safety hinder drawing/shooting?

>>64899142
Not at all

>>64899064
I think I remember now
I saw the ladysmith name last time and threw a fit since people are going to think I’m trooning if I wield a gun like that

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Idea for my next project, the enhanced conceal carry close quarters battle pistol

2011, 4-4.25 inch barrel, .45, prodigy compact grip, 9/10 round 113mm infinity mags. I need to tune the infinity mag since it doesn’t feed past 6 rounds with the stock follower and spring.

Drop leg holsters are kino.

Anyone have experience with shadow systems CR920P?

If I didn't work construction I could carry bigger pistols like you guys do, I'm limited to my g43 or a snubbie. Would it be gay to get my g43 cut for an optic? It's so much easier to shoot with a dot

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Acquired. Even though i didn't realize there are two different versions. I want the smaller 10 round one to shove up my ass. Hoping they start selling base plates as accessories. Will call tomorrow to ask. Also this is my first post in like a year so welcome me back. Idk if anyone even remembers me but I was the guy that stuck my P320 in a vice and hit it with a hammer. I also used to post my integrally suppressed Ruger MkIV and other assorted firearms next to Yuengling bottles.

>>64899244
How would it be gay

A 407K or eps carry

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>>64899283
I remember that

>>64899244
why do you carry a gun onsite?

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>>64898070
>stop being a try hard
Having my slide machined for an optic will void my lifetime warranty. It's too risky now that this model has been discontinued

>>64898678
>Not larping with some airsoft holster or pocket carry
I understand

>>64898845
Then what's even the point of an aluminium frame
>entirely possible the mag got shit inside and it wasn't the gun itself
Fair

>>64898881
They are a decent low cost brand. Used to be all from the Czech Republic, but they recently opened production in the US. They are a little undercharged, but I haven't heard of any catastrophic issues from them yet.

>>64899371
Don't get me wrong, there's not much point to aluminum frames other than people not trusting polymer or for a more premium feel. I just have never seen any evidence other than anecdotal that polymer absorbs recoil better. Most people don't shoot enough in one sitting for it to even matter anyways.

For M&P, just get the cheap polymer option or go for the steel.

Fun fact in your pic, the firing pin block is stepped with the stock trigger to help the feel of the wall. If you use an aftermarket trigger it will make it feel like shit which is why most kits have a rounded one. The more you know.

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>>64899518
I experienced more felt recoil with my aluminum grip module than with my polymer grip module but that’s with a .45 2011

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>>64898706
>>64898800
Fiocchi 115gr 9mm is 19.2 cpr shipped from Gman right now, that's pretty insane because it's been 21-24 cpr for months. I dunno if it's a typo or what but get while the gettin' is good. I've successfully ordered from Gman before but I don't know how far they'll go to honor the price
https://www.gmansportingarms.com/product-details?id=42431022

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>>64895095
Been rocking this 1791 Fair Chase for about 2 years, but the tuckable leather IWB from Muddy River is tempting. Might just have to give it a shot.
I do wish their standard leather IWB had options for thicker gun belts but the thin steel clip has been working with my old Army riggers belt for years.

>>64899296
Construction is full of the biggest pieces of shit. You can't trust any of those guys.

>>64899545
Stunning research contribution.

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>>64893895
Left handed and only 20 bucks on amazog. Carried daily for almost two years. The previous one was a POS but comically fits my tracker knife perfectly.

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>>64899371
That's a weird place to put braille on a firearm.

>>64893895
Any good metal-framed subcompact pistols out there? I like my CZ 2075 RAMI, but I was wondering what else is out there.

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i want one of these badly even though i'm sure they're a bit shit, i wish atf weren't fags and let you import them secondhand from canada or something.
i'm almost at the point of making it a long term project to make one here in the states but that's beyond my current skillset

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>>64900057
Why can't you? 7.62 tokarev case dimensions are close enough to 9mm that all it would probably take is a custom P226 barrel chambered for it and a different recoil spring. Unless the 9mm magazines won't take the extra length.

>>64899296
Felons are employed, potential drug addicts, you often work odd hours and have to go to sketchy gas stations so you are more likely to encounter more than just people who have jobs.

>>64899858
C S X
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X

>>64900266
instructions unclear; purchased a train

>>64899244
>Would it be gay to get my g43 cut for an optic?
You don't need to worry about that (you're already gay)

>>64899858
There are very few metal framed subcompacts because subcompacts are designed for deep concealment/light weight. As the other anon mentioned the CSX and CSX-E are options since they have Aluminum frames, and they're the only current ones I'm aware of. I'm inclined to hit you with a why.jpg when it comes to metal framed subcompacts. I kind of get it when people obsess over metal frames in full size pistols, for GTW or competition use because sure, metal frame durable, weight good for recoil, yada yada. But the only purpose of a subcompact is to take up less space and weigh less so I don't even see a metal frame as desirable for my subcompacts. They're going to be unfun to shoot no matter what, so I don't want to spend more and have more weight just so I can say it has a metal frame.

Personally the only metal frame pistols I own are old ones that only see range use.

>>64899244
>Would it be gay to get my g43 cut for an optic?
Say "no homo" in the comment field when you send it in, and everything is going to be ok. Also, it's a glock, you could probably find a slide that is already cut.

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After asking here a year ago about a random YouTube Short I watched and then couldn't find, and no one had any idea what the fuck I was talking about. I found the product (but not the same video).

This thing (called the Green Light, apparently) is such a cool idea that I wish other manufacturers used backplates for it alone. I hate Glocks. Will never buy one again, but God damn this is smart.

When you draw your gun, the holographic panel appears red until you hold it close enough to be centered with your vision where it'll instantly transition to green. It does this because it's an optical illusion like a trading card or book with pages that has an image which would change depending on the viewing angle. Consequently anything that's a man-sized target within point blank range will be "green lit" the moment that the barrel is center of mass from your perspective without you ever needing to look down the irons and completely removes the need for a red dot (outside of night time situations). The acquisition rate because of how this thing works is quite literally instant and always correct simply because it cannot turn green for you unless it falls under the right viewing angle.

>>64900380
Only way this is going to take off is if it can be applied like cerakote or something, otherwise its just doing what red dots do.

>>64899678
A 2011 or some other FCU gun is where (You) can test polymer versus aluminum. Polymer absorbing recoil is also one of the ideas behind the 2011 design back in 1990s, it’s been a thing for competition shooters with the Pachmeyer grips. A fully Pachmeyer’d gun would have the wrap around grips, rubber mainspring housing, and a rubber grip safety

>>64900403
It's explicitly for Glocks because only Glocks use backplates. For what it is, it's a very clever idea and that's why I wish more companies had them. Throw one do these on the back of a Shield or a Bodyguard and you have effectively the uncontested carry until the end of time. The only weakness would be, admittedly, low light, but the capacity to just draw and mag dump and know you're hitting center mass with almost exact certainty and not need to worry about nerves or anything else? God damn.

>>64900436
>only Glocks use backplates
That's not really true

>>64900440
It's mostly true, so it's true enough. None of the other major manufacturers use them except... Springfield? S&W, Sig, Colt, CZ, HK, FN, etc. don't have a single pistol with a backplate in the same manner that Glocks do.

>>64900380
presentation drills will fix it?

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>>64900380
>>64900436
> It does this because it's an optical illusion like a trading card or book with pages that has an image which would change depending on the viewing angle
What makes it worth $50-200 when you can buy one of those photos for $5 that do the same thing?

>>64900452
Incorrect. Back plates are extremely common on striker pistols. Non glock pistols I own with a back plate:
PPQ
CW380
Hellcat
M&P 2.0

>S&W, Sig, Colt, CZ, HK, FN, etc.
Off the top of my head M&P, P365, P10S, VP9, 509. The only manufacturer you named that doesn't currently make a pistol with no back plate is Colt and all they currently make are 1911s and revolvers.

>>64899546
thanks I just bot 3k. Normally Gman is the home of brutal anal rape on shipping costs but free shipping makes it a great price.
>>64900380
I remember hearing that this thing has a 15 MOA. than I decided not to buy one.

>>64900500
>I remember hearing that this thing has a 15 MOA. than I decided not to buy one.
Uh yeah no shit retard it's designed for short range engagements. Did you expect it to work at 50 yards?

>>64900500
If it’s 15 moa that means the green only shows up within a 15 inch circle at 100 yards, 1.5 inches at 10 yards? You pretty much have to align the irons sights to get the green to show up.

Like use a red dot at that distance

>>64900509
I mean, that a red dot is much more useful and probably intuitive to use

>zero (0) lights that sits flush with the Micro Hellcat except for the 100 lumen TLR6
It's over

Anyone have recommendations on steel frame compacts? Gave all my small guns to my sister because her hands are somehow fucking tiny.

>>64900516
is its dark enough to need a light 100 lumens is kenough

>>64900503
>Did you expect it to work at 50 yards?
It doesn't exactly have the same result as a 15MOA red dot but a 15MOA dot at 50 yards would cover about an 8" circle. That's not that bad. Regardless, 15MOA at typical CCW engagement distances is a sub 2" circle so that's perfectly adequate if it is indeed as fast as or faster than a red dot.

>>64900511
A red dot is more versatile, but if you could put a 15MOA holo plate on the back of, say, a pocket pistol like my CW380, and it works as advertised, it would be vastly superior to a red dot. I don't think a single soul is suggesting that thing is for a pistol that will be used at range, but it does make a lot of sense for CCW *IF* it works as advertised.

>>64900516
Why do you need ten billion lumens on your fucking hellcat? It's a micro compact, not a full size home defense pistol. 100 lumens is plenty for ran-into-a-nigga-in-a-dark-alley

>>64900518
Shadow 2 compact is steel, steel framed compacts are a competition thing, to maximize IDPA equipment rules

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>>64900518
p229, but thats aluminum. I think only 19/2011s have steel small frames. probably some shitty pot metal euro gun like a star too. a makarov too.
get a colt commander and pretend to be Bennie from bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia

>>64900519
>>64900523
Is it enough to temporary blind/disorient a future lawyer/doctor/engineer?

>>64900518
Bersa TPR9C

>>64900526
The p229 shouldn’t even be considered a compact.
It’s like a Glock 45 or P30 in terms of size.

>>64900220
The frame of the NP762 is a lot longer than the P226
I wasn't certain about it, but I got my P229 and a round of 7.62 Tokarev, and the Tok round is longer than the magazine well.

>>64900561
Digging through the ammo shed reminded me though, is selling stuff on /k/ allowed? I have a bunch of old tok ammo/7.62x39/x45 and other gun shit I'd rather sell to a local anon but I don't think I've ever seen people offer to sell things on here and I don't particularly want to get banned for it.

>>64900518
Taurus Roscoe

>>64900544
>temporarily blind
You're cracked. What do you think flashlights are? Phasers set to stun? If you pull your gun, you shoot. If you want to try and dazzle a 220lb feral use a flashlight. It's not going to work, you'll just piss it off and it will charge you.

>>64900544

you weaponlightfags watch too many movies. some "1000 lumens" (actually 220) light isn't going to cause your assailant to shield his eyes in terror like he's about to be abducted by aliens, he's just going to run at you with his knife or whatever anyway. All your weapon light is there for is to help you with your shot placement.