Assuming I don't want to have an SBR is there any downside to having a 13.7-16 inch p&w .300 gun

>>64889506
Oh great we're starting the thread off extra retarded today.

>>64889509
I mean... carbon did bake the thread.

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ARE YOU READY FO ALL OUT URBAN WARFARE, /arg/?

>>64889506
>is there any downside
Yes.

>>64889519
I’m all lubed up.

>>64889506
.300blk was meant for shorter barrels, you're choosing a longer and heavier barrel for no benefit.

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>>64889519
hell yeah!

>>64889519
Make sure to wear soft armor too! Majority of combat casualties are caused by shrapnel!

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>>64889528
>>64889534
THEN GET READY TO R-R-R-UMBLE WITH THE CHADS AT BOTACH.

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Looking to get my first semi auto rifle, saw this Ruger Harrier with some magpul shit included on sale for 550
These things any good or should I just get a PSA as an entry level rifle?

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>>64889539
Based BALCS proponent. You also have to use soft armor with a lot of plates, including military SAPIs, ESAPIs, XSAPIs, for them to reach full protection. You get a slight performance upgrade with standalone plates as well, but it's not much. Primarily BFD reduction and a slight v50 increase.

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>>64889500
Joe Biden Aiming Concept?

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all out urban warfare pack

>>64889506
13.7 and/or 13.9 just happens to be the optimal length for 5.56. there's a reason the new British 5.56 guns and final iterations of the m249 have that barrel length.

>>64889519
I'm just gonna stay home

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>>64889566
maybe you should try getting a job so you can afford things desu

>>64889542
Ruger Harrier is rebranded Anderson for an extra $100.

You do you.

Any chance you could save up for a BCM at ~1k?

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>>64889571
My job and going to the gym after are all I have to do in life

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>>64889579
literally me

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>>64889579
same bro

>>64889579
Same and I am losing one and injured.

Ive got a couple of Trijicon MROs that I want to upgrade from. What should I be looking into buying? 5 sights total

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>>64889590
become a captain

>>64889593
>Ive got a couple of Trijicon MROs
Fucking why?

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>>64889590
sorry to hear bro

Keeping the thread retarded.

What is the benefit/point of a 1.70” scope height - my neck hurts.

>>64889603
Got them cheap. I'm trying to become a better person though

>>64889571
And wasting the money or this stuff? What?

>>64889330
>>64889333
>>64889336
Could you combine Binden with occlusion to get a sort of 1-button switch there?
Also, are there lower picatinny prism options than Absolute (1.42")?

>>64889576
>Any chance you could save up for a BCM at ~1k?
I could, the rifle I posted I could buy tonight though
The primary issue I'm facing is a state law one, they tried to pass a bunch of jackass restrictions that fortunately stalled out this legislative session and I would like to get a rifle before they try again so I can get grandfathered in if worst comes to worst and they do pass something

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>>64889613
whats the point of any optic height above lower thirds co? if you need to clear a giant ass LAM or you have pic related neck, idk if its practical for anything outside of personal preference

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>>64889632
I need to clear a DBAL-A4.

>>64889623
For me it's easier to super impose the dot if you cover the front of the optic, so you don't get an odd double image through the magnification.
Almost worth getting a front lens cover for the ACOG over it.

>>64889624
as someones whos been boned by state laws before; fuck the rifle, buy like 4 or 5 lowers and build them out later, i have three and thats all im ever going to have it seems like and theyre all bargain bin quality

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i can't afford anything anymore

>>64889637
>Almost worth getting a front lens cover for the ACOG over it.
Which one would you get?

I hate shooting ranges. No places here to go shooting in the woods. I don't want to pay extra because my can needs a gorillion hours to cool off

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>>64889632
A LAM isn’t the only way to aim under night vision

>>64889772
>doesn't have a mechanix can sock so he can just throw it over the can and leave

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Is picrel the only low mount available?
https://www.specprecision.com/rail-mount/ari-low-mount-optic-centerline-09-height-for-t2rds-and-3x-magnifier-combo.html

>>64889894
you realize thats an airsoft brand right

What do you guys think of Arisaka products?
I’m thinking about getting one of their lights and light mounts.
If I get a t2 so might get their mount for that too.

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>>64889900
I prefer Militech

>>64889871
Reviews on that seem pretty bad. I had a SilencerCo one and the plastic bits on the outside all melted so I can't imagine a cheaper mechanix made in vietnam bullshit is good

Is there even such a thing as a cover that can handle high round counts

>>64889900
reddit

OK so hear me out
8" Geissele super duty
Maybe?

>>64889994
In 300 blk
>>64889752
I'd try and get a stacked dot but its not the worst using 4x as a dot in a pinch.
Trijicon has all of their ACOG covers and flash killers on Amazon $80 for the whole kit.
You need the flash killer for the front cover I believe.
Putting the front cover down over an optic for room clearing or whatever is an old school kind of thing I hear.
Id probably just stack a dot on top though unless you don't like it.

>>64889905
I've used the mechanix suppressor bags for years now with no issues. Just have to cut the little plastic tag inside.

Do those silicone oven mits work for supressors?
I've been meaning to pick one up to throw in a range bag.

Not AR related but Hotweels passed recently RIP in Peace

>>64890036
yes
>>64890051
about fuckin time

>>64889905
This works great
https://www.cole-tac.com/product/vulcan-suppressor-pouch/

>>64889896
I am silly.

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>>64889506
No it's fine.

>>64889545
Hell yeah, soft armor with plates is the goated move. I kinda regret getting a jpc 2 just because it’s damn near impossible to fit soft armor in with the plates. I should be able to get soft armor cumberbunds and a groin pad though so I should still be gtg. I might consider upgrading in the future though because I don’t imagine it lasting too long if I start training more

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First for pressure of the back variety

>>64890151
I like my back pressure like I like my women.
High

>>64890065
>made in USA
hell yeah

>>64889894
Don't the Sigs and Holosuns come with a low mount?

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I don’t think it’s worth the 1 year wait and the extra $500 to import it, but well, it’s here. I still need to find a Colt N1 stock though, this one looks like shit

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>>64890176
Here bro just right click -> save parts as... on this image

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>>64890176
>>64890208
Then mount a light

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>>64890176
based and CAR-15 pilled

>>64890209
>buy quad
>do some weird shit to mount the light
Those even come with a picatinny mount.

>>64890171
Can you reuse that for a prism optic?

>>64890225
As long as the prism is Aimpoint Micro footprint I'm not sure why it wouldn't work, but I've never tried it.

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>>64890223
Not retarded enough

14.5” or 10.3”? If you could only have one, which one?

>>64890246
14.5

>>64890246
12.5”

>>64890252
What length gas?

>>64890246
i cant even feel less than 14.5"

>>64890257
Wtf are you, a scarecrow?

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>>64890255
Mid length.
Chrome lined.
CHF.
ASR Brake
KAC FF RAS with 0.25” dremeled off the end
and to top it all off…
AN
ELCAN
SPECTRE
1-4
THATS RIGHT
I LIKE THE ELCAN NOW
IT HAS GROWN ON ME
I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT

>>64890258
i dont know

>>64890268
Muzzle break is an interesting choice, idk if I’d go with it personally. Also yeah ive heard elcans are great optics, just expensive and ehhh eye relief

>>64890274
i forgot to say a silencerco saker k

>>64890246
14.5" mid-length all six ways since Sunday brother.
10.3" is ancient garbage and I'm tired of validating the neckbeards who pretend it's still the shit because it's committed the most war crimes.

>>64890279
>because it's committed the most war crimes.
I mean youre kinda selling it anon

>>64890279
Well what makes it ancient garbage? And are carbine length 14.5”s really that much worse?

>>64890293
>Well what makes it ancient garbage
We learned that adding an extra 1.2" of barrel solved reliability and lethality issues brought up by simple things like running unsuppressed or shooting people further than 40 yards
>are carbine length 14.5”s really that much worse
Nah but mid-length is the modern gassing for 14.5" barrels and the original question didn't specify so I picked the best gas system length.

>>64890316
Fair enough for the gas length, I didn’t think to ask so I was just wondering, because those brownells socom 14.5”uppers are really tempting every time they go on sale

On the topic of 14.5, who makes the best? Eyeing a Geissele one. How's their MOD 1 differ from a super duty and is it worth the $300 extra? Kinda want one of the HBAR ones for no particular reason

>>64889462
YO! I have this exact model (Ruger Harrier). I kitted it out a bit but it's my first AR as well. FANTASTIC gun, and $50 cheaper than what I paid for mine. Ask away if you have questions and I can try (or shhow a pic of mine)

10.3 filters so hard it’s unreal

20 and 10.3 are only for the most hardcore zogbot worshippers. You wouldn't understand.

>>64890147
Carriers can be wonky with thicker armor packages. My Tasmanian Tiger TT vest is able to fit IIIA behind 1.2" thick Protech 2230s, but I REALLY gotta work them in there.
The plates can handle .30-06 M2AP by themselves over 3,510ft/s (Level IV spec is 2,910ft/s max), so this is just future-proofing for hybrid case chicanery down the road.

>>64890663
Mod 1 is muzzle device and QD inserts.

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I'm considering a KAC CRS-3 since it checks off all the boxes for me
>lighter and shorter than RC2 and velos
>quieter than the original PRT
>low back pressure
>incredible flash reduction
>can use a shroud that integrates into the mount to reduce glowing
>uses a mount with a proper locking system
>fixed the issue of excessive baffle errosion with 3 prongs by reinforcing the areas where jetting occurs
I should do it bros. I still want to shoot with out the can so I want a flash hider instead of a brake. My only hold up is something better coming out in a month.

>>64890943
Yeah that’s true, I almost regret not getting one of those CIRAS carriers. They’re like 70 bucks cheaper than the JPC and are meant to fit both plates and soft armor

>>64891030
I'm seeing them on fleabay for $100 per. Why not cop?

>>64890268
>filtered cig
>canned beer
>pbr canned beer
>lives where its cold
>wayfarers
>blue wayfarers
>ungroomed balaclava
>overall disheveled appearance
>stands sideways
Is this a provocation?

>10” barrel
>bullets bounce off beyond 25 yards
>11” barrel
>basically an m4
Oh

>>64891061
Ok settle down it’s like ten meters more

>>64891073
>meters

>>64891106
Yeah like the shit you pay parking with

>>64891061
Can confirm, my 10.3 keyholes at 25

>>64891139
M855 niggas really do experience this!

>>64891143
worth it tho to rizzle polyethylene plate razzle
A2 hates polyethylene plates no cap

Real gentlemen measure in feet

>>64891150
Idk what any of that meant, I just think it’s funny how ass m855 and even m193 perform out of short barrels

>>64891168
What he's trying to say is that UHMWPE plates lose to M855 very easily. Some people run these because they make full Level III spec and weigh under 3lb, some even 2lb. However, M855 needs velocity to pen Level III PE plates reliably and you aren't getting that out of a 10.3".
Everyone in /gq/, A2 included, still recommends against PE plates because no manufacturer advertises standoff requirement against M855 (many won't even test) and so it has to be assumed they would lose to M855 all the time. You ideally want minimum M855A1 + M80A1 protection and PE plates fall SUPER short of that.

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>>64890246
16”, 9mm.

>>64891196
Pick a struggle dude

>>64890842
Found a ACI for 400 and bought that instead, trying to find a good deal on optics now

>>64891206
I struggled to pic a struggle, “dude”

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last chance for gud deal on stupid colt tech

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>>64891057
>ah geez dood ur smoking $8/200 cigarettes from an indian res in the middle of the forest at -17F drinkin canned cheap beer for 6 days
kys

>>64891242
Fuck ive really been thinking about the SCW. Didn't know they had cheap ones like this.

>>64891242
>le

>>64889500
>Accidentally bought the 55gr critical defense ammo while drunk instead of the 73gr.

It's over

>>64889540
this place is run by tiny hat people, I've been in their store a few times, they give out funny jew supporting stickers

What’s the top selections for t2 mounts?
On a separate note, are there better options than the t2 these days?
Seems like so many years have passed and t2s are still as expensive as ever. Has anything more reasonably priced that’s 90% as good come out?
For context I haven’t been into ars since like 2018

>>64891376
larue
unity
spuhr
uhhh…
no
no

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>>64891376
LaRue LT660

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>>64891376
ELCAN

>>64891376
For me it's either larue or unity. The only reason you would use anything else is because you don't want to be like other girls.

do you guys recommend getting a FN M4 carbine as my first ar? I'm that kind of autist that wants what the military has....

also fucj the captcha

>>64891390
Here you go bro
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1146293070

>>64891360
You aren't going to survive the race war like this anon

>>64891376
Kastle

>>64891407
He’ll be okay so long as he doesn’t have a shorty

>>64891402
>https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1146293070

lol thanks, but i'll stick with 5.56

>>64891414
I have an 18 inch
>>64891407
I have several full mags of 73gr, just 3 boxes of 55

>>64891420
What’re you worried about then dude you’ll be fine to like most combat ranges

>>64891425
55gr critical defense is practically a slightly more barrier blind varmint round

>enter thread
>ctrl+f ash
>0 results
>ctrl+f a2
>0 results
>leave thread

>>64891376
scalarworks.

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>>64891390
FNs are overpriced. unless they go for much less than what they're advertised online for, you're better of getting something else. but if you really want that gun specifically because it's more clone correct or something, then go for it.

>>64891376
>Has anything more reasonably priced that’s 90% as good come out?
holosun had a shot but they shit the bed being autistic about dumbass "features" like shake awake and never bothered improving the basic function of their dots.
>sigromeoproshill anon is silent
/arg/ is truly in shambles

>>64891426
Yeah but that means it’ll have a real nasty effect on target within 200y

>>64891384
Unfortunately, true

>>64891407
>race war
The Kremlin and its agitators push these narratives in the west hoping to misdirect people’s anger onto immigrants in their own countries, instead of holding Russia accountable for their assault on democracy.

Why are all 14.5 complete uppers p&w
Some of us have sbr lowers or dont give a fuck

>>64891460
Tell me about the sig.

>>64891503
Because most people give a fuck

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>>64891498
Immigrants are the problem SAAAARS

>>64891649
Why is Virginia like this?

>>64891658
People like Ash live there

>>64891498
Bait or mental retardation?

>>64891713
He's kinda right that they do that but you should hate immigrants anyways

>>64891725
I mean it would be retarded if russians didn’t, but laying the blame squarely on them is silly

>>64891649
Nice reminder to tell my AZ buddy to avoid lib shitholes when he changes location

>>64889500
I hate you faggots, but God damn that pic is aesthetic as fuck.
Chkd

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>>64891649
>>64891725
We're never gonna be free from our pedophilic cannibal class so might as well apeout

>>64891770
I'm gonna just relax instead

>>64891821
amen brotha im relaxing right now

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>>64891821
cheer s Ill drink to that bro

new captcha killed this place

>>64891874
you know at this point i think i would the girl on the right

>>64891876
agreed, /gq/ is at altchan speed right now and botposts are still all over the other threads.

>>64891876
They're so easy though?

>>64891894
iz a retard filter and we need retards

>>64891731
Why yes Piodr my fellow American from Texas oblast I agree it is bad to blame Russia for the things that they are doing )))

>>64891649
Immigration is a valid debate, but Russian influence operations turn it into violent incitement instead of pro-social policy debate.

>>64891905
The only "dabate" is they need to leave Hernandez from New Mexico oblast

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>>64891879
>at this point as if you wouldn't already would've

>>64891930
ive seen the webm before she is trashy but man i am so pent up

>>64891905
Russia let in the tens of millions of Mexicans? Like can we stop being stupid for one second and just acknowledge the problem?

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>>64891949
No never or else we'll get shouted down as "extremists" for wanting borders annn sheeeit and redirected.
Every
Single
Time
They're grabbing the guns this time too so yes, its becoming fucking personal to me.

URGI? Yay or nay?

>>64891964
SOPMOD block II

>>64891968
Pros and cons of each? I see both uppers go on sale pretty frequently

should I switch my asr mounts for rearden?

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>>64891971
block II pros
>strong
>picatinny
>sexy
block II cons
>nothing

URGI pros
>...
>a little lighter I guess
URGI cons
>everything
>gay
>ugly
>bendy
>M-lok

>>64891985
Anon cmon be real, the mid length has, slightly lighter weight, and cool FDE handguard is all very compelling. The only questionable thing there is the govt profile barrel. And maybe the bendiness but that seems overblown

>>64891971
URGI sucks, just get a Super Duty

>>64891993
Okay I’m not too knowledgeable on this, what’s the actual difference? Like they just look like different colored versions of each other

What gun cleaner/solvent do you guys use on your ars?
I pretty much just use ballistol and coom oil; and every once in a while using an actual solvent like mpro-7 gun cleaner. Seems to be a fine routine.
Was thinking about trying slip-2000 gun cleaner when I run out of Mpro-7.

>>64891996
>what's the actual difference
I have both and my URGI is my "main" right now. The URGI uses two set screws to even itself out against the receiver. The super duty uses a puzzle piece in the rail that it slots into. The puzzle piece is supposed to be better. The URGI is supposed to have a DD barrel while the Super Duty has a Geissele barrel. These are the two biggest differences that I've seen. I also accidentally made a proper URGI but it's soon going to be replaced with a Geissele barrel and the DD tossed into something else.

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>>64891964
Yay

>>64892055
>The URGI is supposed to have a DD barrel while the Super Duty has a Geissele barrel.
That's the military rifles. The Geissele "near clone" uppers have Geissele gov profile barrels, the Super Duty have taper profile.

>>64892074
Oh the barrel profile is different? That’s pretty compelling honestly

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>>64892083
Yeah. The URGI has a different anti-rotation method on the hand guard like the other anon said and they have Surefire muzzle devices. Super Duties have Huxworx flash hiders. BCG and charging handle are the same.

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>>64892096
Muh quirk chungus lifestyle
>>64891964
I tell ya I hate Nancy. It’s a beautiful day…yay

>>64892096
Idk how to feel about the huxwrx shit but the anti rotation being better sounds nice, if only it was black and tan instead of one solid color. Could always spray paint it
>>64892065
>>64892104
Heard

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>>64892110
>if only it was black and tan instead of one solid color. Could always spray paint it
The two tone look is pretty sweet I agree. I'm not sure how much of a difference the barrel profiles make for most people really. Just flip a coin

>>64892120
Two tone look, handguard compatible with every other AR upper (I assume the puzzle piece thing is proprietary), three prong flash hider vs better barrel, and handguard lock up.
Damn damn damn

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Another day, another neo leftist attempts to assassinate the President. They are truly the greatest threat to democracy

>>64892033
I hose the bolt carrier group and flush the barrel then scrub them down with a T-shirt and patches respectively after letting everything soak for 10 to 20 minutes
>ballistol and coom oil
I use whatever happens to be in stock at the LGS: Rem Oil, Break Free, Hoppe's

>>64892120
They'll kill me for saying this but I don't think the barrel profile between the two makes enough of a difference. Also less convinced of the virtues of a heavy barrel profile for the larp use cases of carbines as I read more and more.

In a fireteam setting it would seem the most common point of contact to require magdumps that would necessitate heavier profiles is when you're trying to *break* contact with full auto. I have never been on a battlefield.

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>>64892139
>I assume the puzzle piece thing is proprietary
Technically you could just chop the tab off if you really wanted to use it on another upper for some reason. Kinda defeats the purpose, though, I guess.
>>64892139
>three prong flash hider
Four prong

>>64892145
>use whatever happens to be in stock at the LGS: Rem Oil, Break Free, Hoppe's
Tell me LGS name and we call them

>>64892147
I mean logically speaking, the amount of full auto fire you’d have to do for the barrel profile to matter is more than you’d ever shoot reacting to contact or whatever. Shit it’s probably more than most will ever carry
>>64892158
Oh the four prong? I mean close enough ig, thanks though I should’ve looked closer lmao. And yeah you’re right about the handguard. My thinking is if I gotta do all that and still not love the color, why not just get the other one instead and avoid the whole issue, yk?

>>64891985
Go off, king

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>>64892172
>My thinking is if I gotta do all that and still not love the color, why not just get the other one instead and avoid the whole issue, yk?
URGI it is, then

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Since they're the same price, is there any real negative to getting the heavy barrel besides a bit more weight? 3.3lb vs 3.8

>>64892193
Is that attached to a rail or directly to the mlok

>>64892222
You’re going to wish your ar was .5 pounds lighter trust me

>>64892222
.5 heavier for something you won’t really notice until you’re well into the multiple hundreds of rounds, eh. Geissele makes good barrels anyway so I don’t think it’ll much more accurate if at all, so I dunno

>>64892222
>checked
If you're using a suppressor get the heavier profile.

I have a 16" an 11.5" and a 7.5" 300 AR
What is the next AR I should get?

>>64892323
Something unreasonable since you seem to have the bases covered, SBR .308

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>>64892323
20"

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>>64892323
Put a 2-10x and a bipod on the 16" build.

I left my AR lying about with the magazine halfway in and the safety on.
When I picked it up to practice my form, I removed the magazine and pulled the trigger. It activated.
While I slept, one of my cats had stepped on the safety. If I stored my gun hot, that would've been an ND.
I will continue to store it cold.

Tritium in my cogs made me troon out, stay safe bros. Go T2 + mag or LPVO

>>64892420
Just be gay dude holy fuck

>>64892413
>practice my form
>I removed the magazine and pulled the trigger
What kind of form are you practicing that doesn't involve checking the safety before doing anything else? First I would never touch the trigger without checking the chamber but second, why are you pulling the trigger with the safety on? What is this supposed to be practicing?

>>64892422
So get a mpvo?

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does it matter is epstien and the other elites were eating kids or not? of course it matters for the people effected and it makes these freaks infinity more repugnant and evil but i mean on a societal level. Do you think normies would be more willing to rise against the mossad/cia built order if it was true than they are right now? i dont think so, i think if youre nor willing to do something at the baseline understanding that basically every politician and rich scumbag on the planet was buying child sex slaves from some hook nose merchant that youll never be willing to do shit. I think the only reason people care is because they would rather get sucked into a rabbit hole and consoom this tragedy like its content instead of participate against it politically, its easier and more fun to say "this is only the tip of the iceberg"

>>64892441
I mean it confirmed without a shadow of a doubt that zog is real and worse than imagined. Beyond that, yeah it really hasn’t changed anything

>>64892374
>2-10x
what if I only have a 4.5-14

>>64892441
Is that a gen 1 DD MFR?

To your post desu there's been a shift. Even more moderate normies have become somewhat "radicalized" which is why you now see those memes of "work and family" being the only thing preventing great violence. Also the fact that it's unconcentrated. Realistically it shouldn't matter who the president is because this has been going on for several administrations and long overdue, but because of the current prez half the population has been rendered inert. The same can be said when a Dem takes office but the inverse. Such is the result

>>64892446
its a waste of energy. much like a lot of bullshit the jidf pulls i think its a diversion to absorb any effort people ight be willing to output like a heat sink. again yes its awful and im absolutely willing to believe they did that shit but trying to find out instead of doing something actionable is a waste
least insidious act of natsec and the israeli "people"

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Has anyone ever heard of this? Magnets are cool so I am interested, seems like snake oil though

>The Magnetic Buffer System (MBS) is a next-generation recoil management solution, combining patented Frytech Technology with enhanced spring engineering to deliver superior shooting performance for the AR15 platform.

>>64892457
absolutely correct regarding admins, either party winning is to make half the population docile while the other half wastes time trying to elect different pedos, and yes as long as people believe they have more to lose than to gain nothing will happen fundamentally, like lobsters in a pot coming slowly to a boil, its crazy that people look at their shitty ass lives and think "yeah this is worth a few murdered and raped children", i know its more subconscious than that but its the underlying attitude

>>64892457
>gen 1 DD MFR
also yes, not my rifle but those a great handgaurds

>>64892433
>What kind of form are you practicing that doesn't involve checking the safety before doing anything else?
I meant in the sense of correctly holding and aiming the weapon.
>First I would never touch the trigger without checking the chamber but second, why are you pulling the trigger with the safety on?
Because I want to pull the trigger without activating it. Like, "bang, bang-bang-bang-bang" except they're clicks. If you turn off the safety, you get one crisp "click", and then nothing until you run the charger.

>>64892471
I am considering trading one of my shit uppers for just the handguard because I've always liked the look. Is $250 a good price for buying it outright?

>>64892463
Oh yeah absolutely. The only practical purpose of trying to find out is simply to confirm that zog is real. That’s it, beyond that yeah it’s pointless to spend years figuring out what cheese pizza is a codeword for or whatever.

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What is the bes t buffer system for a 16" mid length system rifle? should i bother upgrading if my current carbine buffer runs okay? im thinking springco blue with an h2 buffer or one of the giselle 42 setups, expensive asf for basically a spring and buttplug

>>64892478
no idea what they normally go for but if you wanted to get something similarly rigid and ergonomic youd have to pay about that price new, i would consider trying to talk them down a bit if it looks beat up but also obviously because theyre not made anymore people will pay a premium for them if they really want them, but take all that with a grain of salt

>>64892470
It's more that the people who want to start fires realize the system has enough buy-in for seeming change to happen faster than a revolt could conclude. Poor soil doesn't get seeded. This is the strength of a republic.
>>64892457
>but because of the current prez half the population has been rendered inert
I wouldn't say so. Only 1/3rd even voted for him, and that doesn't indicate unconditional support. There are people giving a lot of thought to their stances right now, but the end result is the same.

>>64892441
>Do you think normies would be more willing to rise against the mossad/cia built order
whats with communists thinking they can get everyone onboard with class war if they phrase it like that?

>>64892466
Just get a JP captured spring if you want something special.

>>64892463
>>64892479
This is a repeat of the Civil Rights' assassinations.
For years, they denied stalking and killing major figures, and then all at once, they admitted to everything. That killed discussion. Only difference here is that "conspiracy theorists" weren't considered crazy by their peers for believing it beforehand.
Not sure what it'll be this time.

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>>64892487
The end result is leftists are fucking gun grabbers that will grab your guns while you shove that fence up your ass and jerk off over pseudo intellectual slop like a cuckold

>>64892500
You’re just gonna see retarded rightoids double down even harder on being pro Israel lmao. Ideally anyone serious will start actually organizing in Minecraft and whatnot
>>64892502
Well yeah, they’re a tool of the govt

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>>64892513
>but muh jooz better vote for duh "moderates"
>immediately shits on your 2nd amendment
Whoopsy doodles
Of all the pattern to autistically pick up on you seem quite interested in glazing over one of the most obvious ones, especially on the fucking hobby board for it...

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>>64892166
Lube, you told me to strategically wait 6 - 8 months for the next batch of Nano Arms product! Did your arrangements with Moka's Raifus fall through?
>LGS name and we call
If you're setting up shop here in North Phoenix then you have likely spoken to them already!

>>64892154
>what happened
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cr57l3rj3yqt
>the difference
The original left was organised labour, the current left are useful idiots

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>>64892518
COOM
ON
IT

>>64892441
>will the normies do anything?
no. not unless it starts to effect their quality of life. or football.

>>64892517
Insane image. The plate carrier probably does cover the organs it’s meant to, he’s just so fat it looks tiny. Holy moly. And yeah these people will legit vote for a palantir police state and dying for Israel if it means owning the free Palestine people or whatever

>>64892502
>The end result is leftists are fucking gun grabbers that will grab your guns
That's just completely wrong.
Centrists will vote to have the government take your guns, and cops/feds will enforce the edicts.

>>64892528
>The plate carrier probably does cover the organs it’s meant to, he’s just so fat it looks tiny.
I don't understand plates. I get that most bullets (if fired using American "Center-of-Mass" doctrine) will land on the covered region, but the head, major arteries, outer lungs, obliques, and the intestines are usually left exposed.
I could never confidently stand out the way many of these do and act like I'm protected.

>>64892528
It was a leftist "fuck ICE" posting on FB IDIOT

>>64892537
I mean they’re meant to cover the most vital organs, ideally used in conjunction with like soft armor and a helmet to cover most of the areas you listed. Sure the soft armor won’t stop most bullets but shit like shrapnel from arty explosives drones etc will be covered, which are most casualties in a conflict. Oh and chest wounds are hard to treat so that’s another good reason to carry some

>>64892502
People like you don't even believe in the 2a anymore, since you don't want to arm your enemies. What makes you different from leftists in that sense? You're just as unhinged, you also want to selectively restrict guns to a select few, so maybe you should kill yourself

>>64892542
It’s the same thing desu just retarded cattle following capeshit politics while mutually supporting the system

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>>64892544
I never said anything about "selectively banning" guns from anyone IDIOT
Democrats are "equal opportunity" grabbers

>>64891879
>at this point
congrats on suddenly becoming straight

>>64892551
Okay then clarify and prove me wrong, do you believe in 2a in the absolutist sense or not?

>>64892523
As soon as Lube tells me why I shouldn't order some online tonight

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>>64892555
I'M TELLING YOU THE DEMOCRATS ARE GUN GRABBERS RETARDED TRANNY

uhh. AR-15s?

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>>64892518
>labour
what the fuck is that
>organized labor vs useful idiots
useful idiots are just average Americans now. They fall into both camps very neatly. That being said if you're pro-organized labor...

>>64892558
I know. This is the last time I ask for you to clarify your position.

That food looks good idk who that is

>>64892559
Oh uh I think I’ve decided on a URGI upper and I’m gonna build a pretty decent rifle around it! Will probably sell my old AR to fund it but eh whatcha gonna do

>>64892563
Idk but she looks like sweet old lady like my mom ;^)

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>>64892564
Not that
>>64892486
Yeah they just seem to be relatively rare. If they weren't so rare I wouldn't be so keen on paying good prices for it. That is to say if I knew I wouldn't have to look hard when I actually wanted to do a build. The seller is being sketchy too, I miss gafs

>>64892528
>owning the free Palestine people or whatever
The same left that hates my guts and wants me dead? Yeah sorry it's way too late for this condescending olive branch.

>>64892543
>"I used to be a sheepdog like you. Then I took a 5.56 to the thigh."
Useful, but not the confidence booster you'd expect, given how eagerly people dress up with them.
I guess if neither side understands terminal ballistics and they're both religiously told to aim for the CoM from 200+ yards, you can minimize casualties, but it feels like that African "bulletproof charm" thing, where just getting guys to run into gunfire was the point.

>>64892564
keep the old one as a beater. guns depreciate pretty hard unless you sell them privately

>>64892566
',:=^)-] you gotta weak chin there boah

>>64892575
I've heard this for more than a decade. It's always too late to take one step back but never too late to blindly march forward into my asshole. Get outtaaaaaathere

>>64892576
You know in a position where there would actually be a need for a "militia" i think the hospitals would be closed and you might be better off just dying if you get shot.
Also I'm just justifying not owning a plate carrier or plates to myself.

>>64892581
Oh hi big boss I didn't realize you were here when I typed that.

>>64892576
Well it’s one of those things where there’s no reason not to. It won’t make you invincible and yeah what it does cover is limited, but if you’re ever in a situation where you will get shots fired back at you, why wouldn’t you run armor? Just seems stupid not to
>>64892577
I probably will sell it privately, but in general I just don’t want a horde of guns. I’m not much of a collector yk?

>>64892575
It’s not an olive branch, both sides are literally controlled opposition is what I’m getting at

>>64892586
Wouldn’t running plates make more sense in that situation, as no hospitals means no way to treat a sucking chest wound?

>>64892466
Magnetic systems do work to retard the action and help with recoil. I'm not sure about that one but I do recall a 3d printed gun that used magnets and the testing was good.

>>64892589
It's absolutely good sense to, but I'm saying the guys who get plates start acting like they're invincible.

>>64892595
I just assume the plates are more for extending someone's life until they can make it to proper medical care, and if there isn't good medical I'd want my enemies shooting to kill.
So save some weight on the armor for things like more food, water, survival supplies etc.
But if the plates can catch a few rounds its probably worth just dealing with it.
In SHTF I'd be grabbing a concealable pistol because I think long guns would make you a target.
Maybe I'm just looking at it wrong though?

Jannies banish this thread to /pol/ so we can start fresh

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>>64892599
youre cooked

>>64892599
>so I think part of my blame lies in relying on her being in a good mood.
that's all of the blame. Sounds like all she's doing is having emotions every now and then and you let it affect you. Stop that

>>64892598
Oh yeah that’s just video game brain shit, people are stupid
>>64892603
I mean you could make the same argument about carrying first aid stuff because it’s just there to hold you over until a higher level of care. Plates have their uses, specifically if there’s a chance of someone shooting at you or any sorts of explosives. But if you’re just doing like recon or scavenging a pretty safe area or whatever larp scenario, you could do without

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>>64892604
It amuses me this image is real and it happened to me while I was shitposting and getting lolcowed

>>64892608
>Stop that
gotcha.

>>64892621
Give yourself some grace too. Now

>>64892622
How?

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So as an AR-15 thought experiment, instead of theorizing about how we would totally survive the collapse of a society designed to sustain 8 billion hunter gatherers, let's create the minimal functioning AR-15 parts build that will cycle with a full magazine inserted, leaving out the following:
>muzzle device
>handguard (just use a stripped GI barrel nut)
>forward assist
>charging handle (pull bolt back with flathead screwdriver)
>ejection port cover and hardware
>takedown pins, detents, springs (use 1/4-20 machine screws and nuts)
>safety, safety detent and spring
>castle nut, receiver end plate (use rifle receiver extension)
>pistol grip and screw
>stock
>buffer retainer and spring
I count like a 16 part AR (right?), anything else you think you could leave out?

>>64892560
what is this image

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anons whats the best way to set up my sling on the CTR stock without a QD mount?
I can't really sling it horizontally like the car-15 style

right now I just looped it through a triglide and pulled it out of the same slot

>>64892682
Sten style tube receiver with threaded cap on end. Spring, buffer, bcg, barrel, and whatever the fuck your magazine assembly requires. Fuck you. I hope you gets aids.

>>64892488
>wanting to overthrow a system of power that brings child rapists to the top every time without fail is class war
if thats communism then maybe im on board lmao, if the options are xi jinping or the revolving door of slimy rotten pedo monsters thats an easy choice imo

>>64892682
You'd run out of ammo far before you run out of working rifles

>>64892716
QD slot adapter.

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>>64892723
I don't think that's the direction one should take though, you're forgetting the FCG, a trunion or nut to hold the barrel in place, plus all of this requires a ton of fabrication where using off the shelf parts is much simpler and nobody cares about the form factor. I actually think you would wind up with more parts to assemble a "sten" AR.
I think later on tonight I might whip something up as a proof of concept.

>>64892737
This isn't some prepper thing, I just feel like theorycrafting retarded ARs anon.

>>64892571
i dont even think theyre rare i think people who bought them just liked themn enough to keep them and almost never resell lol

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>>64892754
oh okay

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>>64892682
the M231 is pretty close to bare minimum functionality. it doesn't even have sights.

>>64892761
But we can go further.
I believe.

>>64892742
You don’t need a safety, nor a grip. Just medium to hold the trigger and hammer. I gave you a simple generalized list. Go dream of emerging from your basement and arming your neighborhood during the apocalypse for cheap somewhere else.

>>64892777
im gona hook onto the trigger guard to grip it like a p90

>>64892779
This is acceptable, or do a giant lever like the Mosin does.

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>>64892777
Nigga go be illiterate somewhere else.
>>64892779
You ain't me bruv

>>64892791
>n-no u somewhere else
We await your delivery.

>>64892791
i would never even wish to be you in my life i am better than you in every way physically mentally financially you name it

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>>64892104
Is there a lens cap on your weapon mounted light [WML]? You have one on your ACOG so it logically follows there'd be one on your WML too

>>64891985
>block II cons
The barrel spec being for button rifling instead of cold hammer forging

>>64892560
>average Americans
If you mean exploited, sure but that's not enough for moneyed interests and they want the average American replaced all together hence their anti-border agenda

>>64892794
Keep an eye on the next thread I think I'm gonna do something different with the takedown pins so I can cut two nuts off the parts count but I don't have the right screw size lying around.
I think I can get down to like 14 parts for a cycling AR which is a neat experiment and I don't get why you're assigning weird prepper shit to it and thinking this would be some sort of practical firearm at all.

>>64892682
Why would I want to leave this things out? An a2 birdcage is like $8

>>64892810
>this is a new form of mental illness
Keep us posted.
>>64892812
Paper towel roll instead.

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>>64892557
We are located in PHX and many shops sell ot there. I just dont know which ones. You can always order online, Moka guy is Anon from /akg/ and based.

Should I load up more 70gr tsx?

what plates should I buy for a home setup? I was thinking ceramic 4 but I might drop it down to a 3 because I don’t see myself ever having more than 3 people over at once.

>>64892716
>on the CTR stock
Thats not a CTR

How goated would this setup be:
>Get bad attitude department NERV lower
>Get an a1 furniture set and stripped upper
>Get an m4 profile 16" barrel and chop it down to 15"
>Move the sight block forward of the gas port to make it fit the full length handguard to make it look like a dissipator
>Get an ARC super safety
>Get a titanium BCG to increase the RPM
>Oversized scope on the carry handle

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>>64892808
>If you mean exploited, sure but that's not enough for moneyed interests and they want the average American replaced all together hence their anti-border agenda
reeee I refuse to be banned and I need to remember this isn't an invitation to discuss bullshit your mind is made up reeee
>light cap
had one. lost one
>>64892755
Yeah I meant rare as in hard to find on the used market, not that it was ever literally a collectible or actually rare.
>>64892701
Epstein's /k/ related activities
>>64892646
It's a tough one but unironically it starts with accepting a shared humanity

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>>64893217
woops meant to post this image to show the old cap

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>>64893198
>Move the sight block forward of the gas port to make it fit the full length handguard to make it look like a dissipator
Somebody's been watching our favorite lesbian

>>64893274
I'm not an ARfag so I have no idea, I just wanted something cool

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>>64893280
Look I'm just letting you know man

>>64893098
you know what i meant

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HOPE mentioned

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>>64893300

>>64893198
fake dissy's are gay and bad attitude is a libtard