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Messy Bench Edition, i guess.

I still need dies and bullets for .380, but i wanna do it bad enough i knocked the primers out with a punch and hammer.

Got 70ish of those tumbling with a few 45acps, a couple 22-250s and the odd fuddy ought sex.

The pint sized camp stove was used to heat my water, worked great for the one barrel im using. A spritz or 2 of purple power is my cleaner, ill get a pic when theyre done

>>65130178
>10g of Long Shot powder
I haven't used Long Shot before, but that sounds like a lot.

>>65130209
>sounds like a lot
+p max is 9.0 grains
Per GRT I'm at 29k PSI for .45 Super out of a 6" barrel, which is reasonable. I've had loads exceeding 33k PSI. Allegedly Supers can go toe to toe w/ Rowlands but I'm not going crazy with these.

>>65130217
in short barrels, they might get close, but they actually overtake Rowland in rifle barrels according to bbti. makes me consider a .45 acp for a subsonic deer gun

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>>65130205
And here they are: about an hour in the tumbler, another 40 ish in the oven @200°, a few more for cooling... Ready to size, trim then dry tumble for that new car smell.

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Thoughts on 3d printed sabot? Currently have some in .452 that seat a 4.6mm 38 gn varmint round.. also have some that seat .224 diameter bullets, both 36gn and 50 gn. Experimenting with solid sabots vs cutouts to match the 50bmg slap sabot jackets, and print settings shooting for a solid base with hollow “petals”

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>>65130676
Cross section of petals vs solid base. Gonna try some in .38, .40 and .308 as well. Wanna vary the grain weights.

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>>65130677
Gonna gas check them, have a 7 inch x frame in 460 to run them through so I can load from light 45lc up to holy shit 460 levels of powder. Any advice/experience/thoughts on what to try? Would like to see if it’s possible to work up some kind of kludge formula to determine stability based on bc/ spin rate, and estimated velocity… as well as get an idea of what the sabots need to cleanly release

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>>65130684
50 bmg slap sabot for comparison.

Handloading ammo is man's way of coping. Coping that he can't birth children.
But to be fair, the ammunition children he does produce is beautiful.

>>65130692
Hey man I just want to shoot cheap .45s

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>>65130684
>Any advice/experience/thoughts on what to try?
Can you take video when you test? Please?!?!

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Loading 9 on a single stage kinda sucks but it works.

124grn Plated HP over 6.6grn of HS6.

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Got babbys first lube pad today, holy shit. Shoulda got one ages ago

>>65132768
Single stage gets tedious when doing lots.

>>65132789
>babbys first lube pad
I like it a lot more than the spray. It's easier to get an even coating and it lasts for bloody ever. Just be careful because a little goes a long way. The downside is that it is slower and you get your hands pretty nasty if you process a lot of brass without wearing gloves.

>>65132789
Am I in the minority for just liking the LEE sizing compound? Granted it does dry out if left to the elements, But by the time i'm sizing cases i've already run them through a tumbler and ultrasonic and just want to wipe them off

>>65133145
Lee grease is good but newer lots smell like fish. Idk what they did there.

Is reloading coming back because of pricing?

>>65133469
I've always reloaded even when ammo was cheaper.

Why aren't you loading 300 grain 45 ACP? We like and use 45 because it's heavy and slow. Why go the opposite direction?

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>>65134287
>loading 300 grain 45 ACP?
Hmmm... I mean I could for Super if I 100% trusted picrel
https://hunters-supply.com/store/452-45-cal-300-gr-fp-sc
For real though I have some 260gr .45 Gold Dots and I do want to give 275s a try at some point but don't see going past that.

>>65130692
are

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Tested 2 clips of 30-06 in my M1 today. Speer 168 BTHP, with 47 and 47.1gn H380, respectively, with cci 200s.

Its a sight lower than what my old ass speer book and the bottle have printed, but the numbers are similar to my existing loads of 165 BTHP, with 55gn hogdon superperformance and the same cci 200s according to GRT. The gun cycled fine, had a couple misfeeds and hangfires, likely due to using non-magnum primers. Strikes seem deep, and the primers pushed out a cunt. Shouldnt be from pressure, but maybe that or im starting to get pocket failure.

Need to revise my process for it, im a hair long and the bases are a touch fat for the chamber, despite full sizing.

>>65132888
>>65133145
>trips of truth
Been using the oneshot forever, with paper towels to catch overspray and help even it out, like an improvised lube pad. Having the pad now tho...might just be a placebo, but it feels nicer on the press. Ill find out soon enough, when i start going thru more cases.

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>>65130178
Reloading 12 gauge shotgun shells with Pyrodex RS and 8-1/2 shot (it was on sale).

I have a lee single stage press that I originally bought to reload .300WM but now mainly use for .38/.357. I’m not a super high volume shooter but I would like to increase my output to more than 50 rounds/hour. I’ve read that turret presses are a good compromise and not super expensive, things like the Dillon 550 work well. Does anyone have any experience with something like that? I don’t think I need a progressive press, but I could see the argument of “buy once cry once” applying here

>>65136358
I snagged a Lee Pro 1000 for $150 at an auction just for loading more 357 and 45
Definitely not as reliable as a Dillon but with some tuning and a few mods it'll run right and might be a little faster than a turret press

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Anyone load blanks before? Looking to load launch charges for 37mm. Everywhere says to use 38s&w. Any reason I can't just use 38 special?

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Going to the range later with these. I'll post notes later.

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Ok so 4gr of unique in a 38special case won't ignite... I trimmed to 38 s&w length and loaded again.

>>65137639
Still not working, maybe a different powder is in order. Alternatively I might try something sketchy with a burst disk...

I finally took the plunge and bought a Lee kit
made a bunch of 30-30s: 10 loads of 5 rounds each from 30.2 to 32 grains of Benchmark with 150gn Sierra pro hunter flat noses
looking forward to testing them out

>>65136549
Yep. 5gr of bullseye under a gas check in a shortened 38s&w case is the load I use. It's also the milspec lift charge for a lot of 40mm loads. 38s&w is a bit fatter so it fits properly in the 37mm shell. The shells I have they go in pretty snug and aren't difficult to pop out after they're fired.
>>65137639
That's a light charge of a slower powder. You want the fastest powder you can get, especially with just a crimp.
>>65137689
Gas checks make good burst disks. I ran the calculations a while ago and found they'd burst at less than 20ksi with the shells I have. They'd also make the blanks more tolerant of different powders

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>>65137030
Alright here we go...
1/3

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>>65138168
2/3
So, Sierra has these .45 +P loads. The 9.0grs of Autocomp max load is absolutely way beyond SAMMI +P levels. It IS .45 Super. Per GRT it's around 28K PSI which is the "maximum" (non-hotrod) for Supers. So there's that. Absolutely the most accurate out of any of them with my LWA G21L. I will be loading these again. Spicy though.
The Long Shot loads were definitely less snappy. I could hear the sound barrier crack from the 185grs. Awesome!
The 250gr loads weren't as bad as I anticipated. Good bear defense ammo.

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3/3
My TLR-4 did break upon the first few shots. It cost me $45 used so I'm not too worried. The DPM spring fell off the barrel when I went to disassemble my M&P. I had to drift out the front roll pin that the recoil assembly was stuck on.
The USP handled it like a champ.
10/10 would reload again.

>>65130684
>>65130687
Very cool

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>notified that 140gr fmjs are back in stock same day as the 115gr I ordered in desperation are delivered
just

>>65138213
Hell yeah, and that's with a stock USP? No modifications?

I recently picked up one in 45 and have been loving it.

I got 100 pcs of Lapua 7mm PRC brass recently. I'll see what these babies can do.

>>65130178
i dropped my frankford arsenal trickler and the tube broke, the tube is shit metal. it looks like the rcbs trickler has a real steel tube, anyone have it?

wet or dry tumbling?

>>65139618
I prefer dry because I don't need for my brass to dry, but wet will clean it better

>>65138750
>stock USP? No modifications?
Yep! I got a 2nd recoil spring assembly in yesterday and I'm going to replace the outer, large spring with a 20# from Wolff. I also have a Jarvis barrel on order so I can shoot hard cast lead Supers.

>>65139618
Why not both?

>>65139618
Dry, walnut medium.

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>>65130205
Yours is fucking clean.

Loading 1 oz. drive key slugs with 20 gr. of Green Dot, WAA12SL wads, and range pick up shells.

>>65140024
Excellent news. Just got a USP in 45, and I'm loving it.

Keep us posted on how the spring and barrel swap goes - I might pick up another one for a proper woods gun.

>>65140024
I have been considering getting the tactical recoil assembly for mine and putting a stiffer spring on it for the pissin hot loads. It delays unlocking slightly which should help the brass not explode. I need to make a clamp on brake for the match barrel, then I can start using 460 Rowland©®™ data and above

>>65140774
Its cleaner now, but sometimes it extends into the rest of my shed, lel

>>65141052
>then I can start using 460 Rowland©®™ data
Yeah if you get the .460 conversion
>and above
You will die. Your gun will explode and you will die.

>>65130684
What material are you using? I've wanted to do this before but I wouldn't think most printer materials would survive rifle pressures. I don't have an enclosure so I could try flexible pla or petg but not abs

>>65142485
Pla + for these, know another guy who tried it without the cuts and with solid prints and seemed to have tumbling issues, but was also getting the sabots imbedded 1/4 inch into wood…. Their velocity was way off their predicted, so I’m curious what mines gonna be.

I just joined the club, I will be reloading mostly .45 and 7.65x54 Belgium.

Got a Hornady classic, this week I will buy the rest. Any tips or recommendations before buying the accessories and dies?

>>65136358
I load both .38 and .357 with my RCBS turret press. I use a single stage press just as a decapping station. A universal decapping die stays in there forever and you can do that with your single stage if you have the bench room (or you can put is somewhere else and just have a decap->clean area.) While I generally prefer to do one operation at a time to a bunch of cases instead of walking a case though each stage at a time, even then having all my dies on a turret press is super nice. I got it before my single stage and I would never go to single stage only now. The ONLY downside I can think of that isn't price is super benchrest shooter nerds might say that the cam over of turret press isn't a million percent consistent, but I bet I still load more consistent rifle rounds than many fellow hobbyists.
Anyway, get the turret press!

>>65136358
>>65142934
definitely agree with getting a turret press, i have a redding t7 myself and love it

>>65142934
>>65143057
QC bushings remove the single advantage of a turret press.

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Oh boy, here we go! ...As soon as the cases are polished. Got fresh media in the tumbler with a bit of fine cut car polish, added in a cup or so of baking soda hoping itll help the pockets out.

>>65142934
Ive been thinking of upping to one of those... Is it like single stage, but you just move the turret to the next step? Or is it more like progressive, where it goes down the assembly line?

Sometimes im lazy and dont reload for a while, and doing 1000 or so in various calibers on my single is kind of a pain.

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Bought a Hornay Seating Die and a Redding Type S FSD, cant wait for my 1st bolty tonarrive in 4weeks :3

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Fired more .45 Super through my M&P
No issues this time with disassembly. I had one FTF that could have been from the mag spring not keeping up with the slide. No surprise but all other rounds fired fine from each of my batches. The 250gr plated flat points with 7.6grs of Autocomp were very manageable and potentially good innawoods loads for this handgun.

>>65143266
mmm yes I see you have everything you need there to reload

>>65143283
No idea why 45 super isn't more popular

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>>65143287
Nah thats jusg a image from the GrindingHub 2026 this week. Those guys made surface finishes for shit like factory sizing dies and molds. Pic related another company with more k related exampled

>>65143301

seem reason level 3 45-70 isn't loaded more, half the guys shooting it are using gun made when there was a roosevelt in the oval office and would turn their guns into IEDs.

>>65143301
Boomers like >>65141490 think you will die and give all your kids cancer if you use load data that isn't in a manual

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>>65143392
>think you will die and give all your kids cancer if you use load data that isn't in a manual
I color outside the lines with .45 Super. But using .460 Rowland data in a Super is absolutely unsafe and will at best case just prematurely damage your handgun.
You're a fool.
But hey go ahead and load .460 in a Super. Be sure to post pics and data. Maybe you'll teach me a thing or two. But you won't. You don't even reload. Or own a gun.

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Remember, kids! Close AND clear your powder drop BEFORE you take it off!

I was doing a rough gram>grain conversion to see how much .380 i could potentially do, and got carried away... (About 668 @ 3.6gn, if you wondered)

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>>65143402
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST SHOOT PISSIN HOT 45 THAT YOU'VE WORKED UP YOURSELF YOU HAVE TO USE WEENIE HUT JR'S RELOADING DATA
>260gr speer jhp
>1.275" oal
>Starline super brass
>10gr power pistol
Chrono said 1100fps from this Mexican 45 I got for $100. It has a 22# or whatever the strongest spring wolff makes for it.

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>>65143479
>260gr speer jhp
>1.275" oal
>Starline super brass
>10gr power pistol
>Chrono said 1100fps
>22# or whatever the strongest spring wolff makes for it
That's in the Super territory. Not even close to Rowland
Don't claim to load at .460 levels and give us a Super

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>>65143485
It's literally more powerful than Johnny Rowland's 460 Rowland©®™ brand 460 Rowland©®™ load data

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>2512fps fn 30-30
gadzooks

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>>65143485
>>65143604
I ran it in GRT and you're both idiots for different reasons.
>>65141490 Is right and >>65143485 is wrong.
>>65143479 Show us your primers after shooting picrel.

>>65143708
I don't have a pic of the brass, this was years ago. The slide stop did fall out when I fired it, the gun spontaneously disassembled itself. It also has a very long throat which reduces pressure a lot. The bullets weren't hitting rifling until they got to 1.35"+ which makes it more tolerant of the silly hot loads. It's not something I plan on doing again but it was a good way to show what modern 45s with modern materials can actually handle without catastrophic failure.

I wish the throats on my usp barrels were longer. The fat ogives of 45 colt bullets require seating them at like 1.2" most of the time which costs a lot of powder capacity. I designed a swaging die to give them the same ogive as 230gr ball and it does a pretty good job but it's a lot of work for quantities of it

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There we are, 50 rounds of .380. 115gn Hornady FMJ-RN, 3.6gn Win 231, CCI 450.

Range report soonish. Shooting from my IJ70-17AS.

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>>65143903
>CCI 450
Holy shit! I'm interested in seeing what they do.

>>65137916
Congratulations, anon. I kook forward to hearing about your range trip. What kind of launcher are you using?

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>>65138201
>I could hear the sound barrier crack from the 185grs. Awesome!
That's great. How was the recoil?
That's interesting to hear about the Serria load data. This standatd .45 ACP table says 6.9 grains of Power Pistol is the max loading but my Lee manual says 7.1 is the starting charge.

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>>65138213
That still kinda lame that it busted, but I'm glad you're taking it well.
>DPM spring
What cause it to fall out?

>>65138745
Based, now you have all of the bulets.

>>65139618
I use wet for brass prep and dry for finished cartridges. You also don't have to use the media in the wet tumbling process.

How do you know when a shell is too fucked to reload any more

>>65142845
>Any tips or recommendations before buying the accessories and dies?
This probably isn't what you want to hear, but it's the best advice you'll ger. Start out with a good manual and read the stuff in the front, not just the load data. It will help you make more informed decisions on what you might want, but of course, Hornady will shill Hornady stuff and Lee will shill Lee stuff.
Here are some older, but free online manuals.
>Lee 2nd edition
https://archive.org/details/leeprecisionmode0002leer
>Hornady 7th edition
https://archive.org/details/bwb_Y0-BNK-452
>Lyman 48th edition
https://archive.org/details/365559935-lyman-48th-reloading-handbook/page/143/mode/1up
There are a ton more on that site, but that's a good start.
Now, fornwhat you came here for. Check eBay and Amazon, but do your research. You can score some great deals on eBay, especially on used stuff. Just make sure you can see all the components and their condition. Reloaders generally take care of their stuff, but they do lose things.
Do you have an idea of what sort of stuff you are looking for? Like do you want an eletric or balance scale or do you want and all in powder dispenser and scale? Do you want to buy everything Hornady or do you not care about brand?

>>65143256
>115 .380
How does that work for you and what do you shoot it out of? My PPK likes 90 grains at about 850 fps, but maybe I could do a heavier bullet a bit slower.
>fine cut car polish
Wut.

>>65144005
It's cracked or split or discolored in a way that suggests it may crack or split.

>>65143942
>How was the recoil?
A little spicy, but less than a hot .357 in a 4". Autocomp burns fast and I'm thinking it's not ideal for a Super.
>Power Pistol is the max loading but my Lee manual says 7.1 is the starting charge
Can you post a pic of the Lee page? Please and thank you!
I think Hornady says 8.0grs for Power Pistol max for 230gr .45 Auto.

>>65143945
I'm not sure but it handled everything I shot through it today.
May just needed to break in?
And ignore >>65144202 if that's a Lee book page lol

well I just went through a clusterfuck of a learning experience
>priming cases with a hand primer, one is being incredibly hard to press. can't pull the case out
>pull the case and shell holder out of the primer. must not have paid close enough attention because the primer is upside down and I was squeezing so hard the primer was folded sticking out
>"okay, I'll just use my press to remove the primer. I can just use the shell holder I have on now" (this shell holder is flat and doesn't hook into my press)
>DIDN'T think to use my universal deprimer, use the fucking sizing die (I just realized this while writing it out, would have saved me a giant headache)
>primer comes right out, case is stuck in die, deprimer preventing me from removing the shell holder
>try to lossen the deprimer nut in the press, break my locking lug (I have a quick swap system and it was one of the lugs that tightens with a set screw)
>out to the vise, get the nut loose, push the deprimer up enough to remove the shell holder, retighten the nut
>back inside, go to put the right shell holder on the die. "oh right, the deprimer". out to the vise 2
>now with the right shell holder on, put the die back in the press, but can't hook the shell holder back into the ram
take the die out of the press, unscrew it from the quick swap piece
>put the quick swap back in the press, hook the shell holder in, screw the die into the quick swap from the bottom
>push the lever, drop the ram, the case comes out, the nightmare is over
>back to priming, finish my batch
not going to make that mistake again

>>65144259
Just wait til you get a case stuck.
Had a dry 7.5x55 sneak into the .308 batch. The decapping pin pierced the shell base which locked it in the shellholder while the case was stuck in the die.

>>65143921
I have a Rossi R95 that I did the tactical lever meme to
though I'm thinking about getting a 336 classic or an 1894 classic in .357 for the traditional lever gun experience
at 32gn, I had an average of 2150
I have a 16in barrel, so I figure that lines up with Sierra's numbers of 2300 out of a 20in barrel
I picked up some LeverEvolution powder because of the data I saw in >>65143681
I don't know if I'll go to max load this time because I'm unfamiliar with crush loads

>>65144208
It is the Lee book, but I don't know why it is oriented that way...

>>65144360
>336 classic
The wise old Vietnam vet cowboy that got me into reloading LOVED Marlins (and Japanese guns). He knew more about guns than anyone I have ever known. My buddy said if you could have a PHd in guns he would have one. I got to shoot his .30-30 and it was pretty sweet, but I don't have a lot of lever gun experience to compare it to. The fit and finish were really nice, though. Whatever caliber you get, Marlins are pretty great.
>I had an average of 2150
>I don't know if I'll go to max
Man, that's pretty decent velocity and if you are just punching paper there is no real need to max it out anyway as long as you are satisfied with your groups.

>>65144028
Couldnt say for sure yet, its been eating the 95gn factory loads fine. Only had the little mak about a month, just started reloading .380 yesterday.

>car polish
Yup. A little in the tumbler shines the brass up nice. Takes a while to get it distributed, but its what i got laying around, so...

>>65143256
>>65143256
Yeah it just has the one ram and you can manually progress to another die after lowering it out of the previous die. I think getting a turret press as my first press was an outstanding move. Also you can buy turrets if you want and have a bunch of dies just fucking set and you can swap turrets so you have 2 pistol sets (your .380 and .45 3-die RCBS sets) on one turret and 3 rifle sets (your 30-06 and whatever else you have going on) just always ready.

>>65144028
NTA, but I think 115gr .355" dia bullets were already around for 9x17 (and maybe something else?) when 9x19 showed up and the reason we have 115gr and 124gr bullets is that 124gr is simply the conversion of 8g (eight grams) to grains, and already on the scene were 115gr bullets. This has been in my head for a while so I might not be perfectly right but that sort of explains why 115 and 124 are both so big in 9mm - while there's not REALLY any real big practical difference in choosing between them

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Google wont give me a straight answer if i can wet tumble with glass blasting beads as a media. This batch on once fired 9 has been taking up space for years, and now it will be used for science.

Gonna use warm water, a spritz of purlle power and a shot of beads. Will post results.

I did test out my 380 loads;>>65143920
>>65144028
Theyre a bit snappier than the factory loads ive done so far. No failures, squibs or hangfires. Cases and primers look fine. I wont post my target, its embarrasing. Coming out of a 380 makarov.

>>65145273
Sounds like im wanting to go progressive, gonna have to save my pennies for that.

anyone have any experience with magtech brass shotgun shells?

Had my first squib load the other day. 148gr wadcutter over 3gr of titegroup in 38spl. Bullet made it into the forcing cone and into the rifling about 1/2" and my gun was locked up. Pushed the bullet back into the case and checked it out. There was unburnt powder in the cavity of the bullet so I know I didn't miss charging it. I'm blaming the primers that came in this cheap teardown brass

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Hey cunts:
Call
Ya Muddas

And wish her a happy Mothers Day!

Pic is the mak i did my 380s out of

>>65145722
How do you plan to clean off the casings after tumbling with glass beads? I don't think it would work any better than steel pins or walnut/corncob.
>>65145762
What was your seating depth and crimping like? Not saying that's why, but those can make a huge difference with full wadcutters.

>>65145722
>tumbling with glass beads
I can't imagine that working worth a shit. Glass bead media is extremely fine. On top of that, it sounds like a major pain in the ass to clean off your brass after use.

>>65145898
>>65145926
Its wet tumbling now, gonna rinse the shit out of it here before long. The 9mm im doing has no use in my arsenal, so im not really losing anything by trying. Ill get the calipers out and check dimensions ofc.

>>65145800
I got breakfast with my mom and family, planted some flowers with her and gave her some wine.

>>65145898
Seated with the nose just into the case mouth with a decent roll crimp. I've already absolved myself so at this point I'm not worried about it

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>>65145926
Like you said, didnt really work as well as i thought. Not much cleaner than my usual method, but the satin finish is kinda nice i guess.

Too much will turn to sludge and be mostly useless, too little wont do much either. Safe to say that wet tumbling with glass beads isnt worth the extra hassle.

Here's a wierd question, ball handle vs roller handle, what do you prefer? I have a Lee turret on a pretty compact setup, thinking about getting a roller handle but is it worth it?

>>65146196
>Seated with the nose just into the case mouth with a decent roll crimp. I've already absolved myself so at this point I'm not worried about it
That's fine it's just I've been experimenting with full wadcutters as well and it's a surprisingly deep topic. If I were to GUESS what happened, it's that for whatever reason you didn't have full powder ignition. Do you remember if there was any unburnt powder or were you really focusing on the squib? I had an experimental wadcutter load with acc #5 that left a lot of partially burnt powder everywhere on the bench, the gun and on my hands lmao. Worked other than that.
>>65146473
I switched to a roller handle and I've kept with it, I think it makes it slightly easier on the hand? Wouldn't say it's absolutely necessary but shit man it's a hobby why not experiment!

>>65143947
jk they got lost in the mail
just

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Put those 9s in the dry tumbler overnight for funsies, they seem a little cleaner and shinier than they were, but not enough to shill glass beads.

>>65145273
>calling me out by caliber
Kek, didnt see that before. So heres where ive been with reloading, because why not:

>current loadings:
.45ACP, 30-06, .303 Brit

>new loadings
.22-250, .380ACP (9mm Browning/Kurz)

>past loadings:
.243, .45LC, .410, .308, 45-70BP

>the fence:
5.7x28

Currently trying a revised method for '06, my test batch had some chamber/feed trouble out of the M1

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Really got to see about annealing, god damn.

>>65148405
If these were shot out of an M1 Garand I'm not surprised. The M1 ejection is very hard on brass and "civilian" 30-06 brass tends to be weak, especially in more generous military chambers. Old surplus brass followed by PPU brass tends to give me the best lifespan without annealing. Hornady brass gave me the shortest life, had case head separation real quick.

>>65148405
Man, that's something. I have so many random .38spl casings loaded and Re-Loaded hot and out of a few thousand I've only had like 10 or so case failures like that. Desu, maybe we should be worried about the supply of 5.56/.223 cases, I've picked countless CMP .30-06 vintage brass out of the shell bin at my local recycler .

>>65148405
I collect brass casings (fancy name for a brass goblin) and indeed all 30-06 casing seem to have fucked up shoulders and necks

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Reorganizing my components onto shelves I put up last week

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Much better.

>>65146328
>the satin finish
Reminds me of my unsuccessful attempts to stain brass cheap and easy. Soaking them in piss produces a similar dulled, satin look. I loaded them and brought them to a competition recently where a guy a few lanes down was collecting brass to reload. I gave him the piss cases so they could live on.

.45 Super anon. My friend is the most real life min/maxer I have ever met, so naturally, he has a G36 slide on a G30 frame. I was thinking about getting him a barrel and recoil spring and loading up a batch of .45 Super as a birthday gift. Apparently, Lone Wolf doesn't make a barrel for that. What do you think of this barrel and can you recommend a recoil spring? Also, where is the best place for loading data?
https://www.combatarmory.com/combat-armory-barrel-fits-glock-36-45acp-barrel/

>>65150667
Based fren!
Per their specs
>Fully supported chamber
Should be good but I can't comment on the brand.
>recoil spring
Does Wolff offer a 24# spring? If not, I used a DPM spring in my M&P 4" .45
Works well after being broken in. The only downside is the cost :/
>load data
I'd start at Sierra's .45 +p load data, work up slowly. Use GRT as a reference. Glock forums have some good data on them, but ask around there to be safe.
If you want I can post my load data so far. Nothing extreme but definitely beyond +p levels for sure. Unfortunately no chronograph data yet. I sill need to borrow one.

>>65148444
>czech'd
>>65148636
>>65148664
I suppose its a mix of the M1 and old brass. Never got so many out of the bolt guns.

>>65148664
I did some brass ratting testing my 380s the other day, picked up more 9mm than i shot 380, an '06, a few .45s, couple of 40s and 5.56, and a 32ACP. Never did find the last 380 out of my box, lol.

>>65150163
Long live the piss cases

Got a question for yall as a newfag - how good are ultrasonic cleaners for mopping up brass? Rudimentary searches show they get the job done, but the cases aren't shiny. Don't care so much about the latter if it cleans them up nice, but curious to know if any of yall have experience with using them and if they're worth a damn or not.

>>65150727
>Based fren!
He's a pretty cool guy and he gets me neat stuff, too sometimes. Besides, this is my way of getting into .45 Super without having to buy the gun and mags and stuff, lol.
>Should be good but I can't comment on the brand.
If you have any suggestions, I'm open to them
>Does Wolff offer a 24# spring?
Uh, they have a 23lb spring...
>Sierra's .45 +p load data
Sounds good.
He bench races +p and +p+ a lot, but I've never heard him talk about Super. To be honest, you are the first person I have ever heard talk about it.
>GRT
Yeah, I gotta step up my game with that...
Thanks for the advice!
Also, I noticed the Serria. 357 SIG has a loading for a 90 grain bullet at 1900 FPS with 721 lb/ft energy. That could be fun...

>>65150882
Good ones work excellent.

>>65150883
You're the based fren. And him too I guess.
>any suggestions, I'm open to them
None unfortunately.
>they have a 23lb spring
He'll need one for sure.
>the first person I have ever heard talk about it
I can't remember exactly where I started with Super, but in 2023 I bought my G21L with intention to shoot Super through it, and in 2024 I ordered 2,000pcs of Starline brass, 2025 I ordered 4lbs of Power Pistol. And just tinkered since then.

>>65138024
I've been busy the past few days but just tried 4.5gr of bullseye and ot worked like a charm, guess I'm in business

>>65150882
>how good are ultrasonic cleaners for mopping up brass?
If you use a good cleaning solution, they should clean up well inside and out. You do need to dry them, and there may be water spots/stains. If you want them shiny, then follow up with corncob tumbling with polish.

>>65150913
>>65150960
Sweet - was hoping getting one wouldn't be a waste of money, bc I'm trying to plan ahead for eventually cleaning other parts with one. Do yall have any recommendations as far as models to get, or is getting something off the shelf from Harbor Freight going to get the job down? Also what about cleaning solution - is Simple Green good enough, or would I really need to go with a Hornady solution to do things proper?

>>65151025
I just went with a 10l Vevor model.
Citric acid for cleaner with a few drops of dishwasher rinse aid, basically the same as Hornady and Lyman's cleaner

>>65151025
>any recommendations as far as models to get
>>65151090
>I just went with a 10l Vevor model.
^Get a Vevor that is sufficiently big enough to fit some lab glassware with your brass and solution in it. I have a tiny one and I can just barely fit rifle brass in it (got it for another reason).
>is Simple Green good enough,
probably, but look for the aircraft safe version, as it is less aggessive and aluminum safe.

>>65151090
>>65151101
Fuck yeah, thanks fellas

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>>65150882
I had a dinky little lyman one awhile back, didnt clean as good as the hot water/dish soap/salt concotion i was using.

Id get another someday, and itll be one of the fancy heated ones big enough for carburators

>>65153156
>Id get another someday, and itll be one of the fancy heated ones big enough for carburators
The Vevor's fit that description.

Wish I could reload 7.62x39 But it's a pipedream because of how it's produced, the boxer primed brass is hard to find in North America, The lighter Odd oversized light .30 cal bullets are uncommon, OH, and now we have Dementia Donald fucking up the supply of everything.

The whole powder situation is going to get even worse, I haven't seen a pound of IMR 4064 since 2018

>>65154027
>boxer primed brass is hard to find in North America, The lighter Odd oversized light .30 cal bullets are uncommon
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/dept/reloading/rifle-bullets/-point-310-dia
https://www.grafs.com/retail/metallic-reloading-rifle-bullets-7-62x39-310
https://diamondkbrass.com/product-category/rifle-brass-cases/7-62x39mm/
https://blueridgebrass.com/product/7-62x39-polished-once-fired-reloading-brass-wholesale/
No excuses.

>>65154845
once again, I'm happily proven wrong. thx anon

>>65155301
I want to get into handloading x39 too for my SKS. Just haven't committed yet.

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>>65156012

>>65156043
Yeah but I want
2.8k Hornady .310 SPs
5.6k Hornady .310 FMJs
10k large rifle primers
2-5k pieces of brass
16# of H322
I'm not looking for a casual amount.

>>65130205
Why are you heating water?

>>65136549
I think you cant do it because excess case space can cause bad ignition

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>>65156227
Homebrew steam turbine power, duh?

Jokes aside, hot water cleans better than cold.

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Had a kinda bad day at the range yesterday. New Colt 1911 has a bad seal on the top of the chamber with the second brand of factory ammo. Pic related.
Shot the rifle poorly because old with old glasses, also a lot of split cases (hand loads with a variety of brass.)
On the plus side, I had no failures, even with the 1911 and an 8 round Pro-Mag and I shot really well with the (scoped) .22lr.
It's been a long time since I had a bad range day.
Thanks for reading my blog post and what do you think of the 1911 thing? I'm kind of tempted to live with it since it's the only 1911 I've ever had that doesn't stub jam. Also, it has mad erratic ejection. Wut do about cracking case necks?
I'm posting this here because reloading filters a lot of noise.

>>65158651
either i'm not used to firing my 1911, (auto ordnance) (probably have 200rds through it). Honestly I think it's an under loaded brand of ammo, it didn't upset the case mouth of the brass enough to prevent blowby in the chamber . In my starting loads in 7x57, 7.62x54r and 8x56r I'll often get a dirty case neck on the lower end of loadings because the powder charge isn't enough to properly seal the case neck to the chamber. Take it with a Grain of salt, because I am inebriated and I don't have boomer 1911 autism, I just like revolvers a Lot

>>65144020
Anon, sorry for the late reply! Thanks a lot for your tips.

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How do you like to handle your no-good brass, /rg/? Im talking case failure no-good.

Ive taken a shine to my hobo fraud hydraulic press. Got it on sale for a different project, but does this well enough.

Its so when I take my bucket in someday, i can say its scrap brass, not spent cases. The recyclers here dont like spent cases for some reason.

>>65161032
prolly had too many incidents with duds that still had powder in them

>>65161032
it goes in the spent primer bucket, no need to smash it or anything.
at least with the scrapyard I frequent, I probably could trade the scrap weight for usable brass actually.

Why's my K31 making two distinct groups with my handloads? I'll have a three-shot 1 MOA group somewhere in the 8 ring then another at 4 o'clock. More velocity?

>>65161736
Couple suggestions:
Whenever you show off your groups to people say "and that one was just me, it's a 1-MOA gun".
Shoot 3-shot groups instead of 4.
Shoot a 20-shot group to confirm that you're really getting two distinct POI and didn't just fail statistics.

>>65163051
No I mean I shoot one magazine at a time, which is to say six shots in the K31. It really forms two distinct tight groups. Factory ammo (not GP11) forms one bigger group, not two. My handloads really are on the starting load side so I guess velocity is the only thing I can try apart from loosening the action screws mumbo jumbo

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DIEMOTHERFUCKERDIEMOTHERFUCKERDIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

>>65163249
DUNNUN DUNNUN NUNNUNNUNNU!!

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I shot some .357 158gr FMJs over 9.5grs of Long Shot over the weekend. They didn't group too well. The geometry of the bullet makes you seat them near SAAMI max length (max is 1.59") at 1.585" where the bearing surface meets the ogive. I can't get more bearing surface exposed without going beyond SAAMI max length.
Has anyone loaded .357s with this profile of bullet before? If I can't make accurate loads with them I'll just put them on 6.5grs of Titegroup for cheap blasting ammo and never buy them again. It was $85 for 500pcs.

>>65130205
Academy has Hornady 380 dies on clearance

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dual wielding

>>65170518
Hell of a setup, anon. What did something like that cost?

something like 12k per unit. recorded at work.

>>65170530
Do you guys do remanufactured?

>>65170593
no, we machine our projos and get our brass from starline, fiocchi, etc.

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>>65170600
Based

>>65170608
cool gig. range testing every morning. chronograph, pressure testing, etc.

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>>65170616
I know you won't say and I won't ask but if I could I'd buy some .45 projectiles if I could.

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>>65170637
would if i could brudda

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>>65170677
Checked. All good, anon.

>>65135741
>that pic
What in hell is this thing?

>>65171554
NTA but some crazy fucker made a 1911... upper...? It fires a .50 BMG

>>65130687
Don't the slap sabots have aluminum inserts in the base encapsulated by the injection molded ultem 1000 polymer?

To prevent blow through?

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More .45 Super testing
All Federal large pistol primers, all Long Shot powder, all 250gr plated flat point bullets.
15rds each
8.4grs
8.6grs
8.8grs
9.0grs
I'm going to see which ones feel reasonable in my M&P and then try some JHPs similar in profile, load up 50 and carry 10 to 30 depending on how many spare mags I'll keep on me.

>>65173795
Might do 250gr Sierra JHPs, 1.260" overall length on 8.5grs of Long Shot and Sierra 240gr JHPs at 1.240" overall on 8.6grs of Long Shot per what I'm seeing in GRT.

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Done!

What happens if I reload 223 brass for 556 in a semi? I've got so much 223 brass from before I reloaded I'd like to have some use for it.

If you're reloading pistol rounds for short range plinking, is there any reason not to seat the bullet slightly deeper than normal COL and reduce the charge accordingly? As long as they feed of course.
Thinking I could save pennies on powder and also have less noise and muzzle blast this way. Gonna try with my 115gr 9mms. Never see metions of seating bullets deep when looking for reload data on forums.

>>65173837
If it's for defense I'd use the softest bullet I can get for some decent hydrostatic shock

>>65175886
>and reduce the charge
Keep COAL and use Titegroup powder.

>>65143708
>Show us your primers after shooting picrel.
you notice that SP primer .45 doesn't seem to flatten primers like at all?
12gr of longshot behind a 230 sure doesn't show any signs of being obscene in anything but muzzle flash and recoil

>>65167316
OAL in revolvers is kinda funny, you're only limited by them sticking out the front of the cylinder after being subjected to five "inertia bullet puller strikes" of the previous rounds being fired
>>65175886
look at shit like .357 and 38spl and 38s&w load data side by side
in autoloaders it doesn't really make much sense because your feeding geometry will be a little fucked up
I mostly shoot 40s&w in my 10mm, because the brass is disposable (small pistol primers, too) and the smaller case volume is more efficient on powder burn

>>65175947
>12gr of longshot behind a 230
The risk doesn't seem worth it to me. But if you have a vid of you firing it that'd be cool

>>65175990
so you haven't noticed that SP 45 brass just doesn't flatten primers like LP does?

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>>65176042
Depends on your SPP casings

>>65176113
wasn't talking about bulging
what kinda boomer retard would load super in something with an unsupported chamber

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>>65171554
>>65172496
He's a /k/ommando

How strange is this: shooting 45-70 405gr lead bullets over 13gr of Unique. Oregon Trail Lasercasts hit point of aim, but Missouri Bullet Co of same weight impact ~4inches left at 50 yards. Does that seems a little extreme?

>>65173837
>250gr Sierra JHPs, 1.260" overall length on 8.5grs of Long Shot
These pass the chamber gage, fail (too long) in my M&P barrel and 9" LWA G21 barrel, but pass in my 6" Double Diamond G21 barrel...
I'll just shoot the 15 I loaded and save the bullets if I ever get into .45 LC.

>>65176184
Do you size them? Maybe check concentricity on a handful of both to see if one is more consistent than the other

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>>65176703
I think I figured out the appropriate seating depth for the 250 and 260gr JHPs. 1.185" per Sierra's load book for 240s in a .45 Auto
I came to that conclusion by comparing Sierra 240gr bullets (not pictured) and the 240s and 250s and then checked Sierra's data. They all have the same profile above the cannelure, where the plated 250gr FPs do not.
I'll have to use 6.9grs of Long Shot with the 250s and 6.8 with the 260s. Should give ~900fps out of my M&Ps 4" barrel.

>>65179230
>240s and 250s
*250 and 260gr JHPs

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>>65179230
>1.185"
250s and 260s, 5rds each at lower seating depth. 6.9grs of Long Shot for the 250s and 6.8grs of Long Shot for the 260s. All seat in my M&P's chamber without issue.

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>>65176703
>>65179230
All shot fine in my G21L's 6" barrel.
These loaded at 1.185" will definitely be replicated for my M&P 45. Hotter than a normal .45 Auto, still manageable recoil. Good for an innawoods carry load.
I'll have to borrow a chronograph next.

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It appears that Ramshot Enforcer can produce .45 Super velocities without the extra pressure. At least for 230gr bullets. Too bad it's out of stock everywhere.

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Next .45 Supers
100rds 230gr plated round nose, 1.240" COAL 8.6grs Long Shot
50rds 250gr plated flat nose, 1.185" COAL 7.0grs Long Shot
50rds 185gr FMJ round nose, 1.230" COAL 10.1grs Long Shot
25rds 200gr plated SWC, 1.245" COAL 9.4grs Long Shot

Anyone ever load .44 mag with BE-86? I might get my dad 1# for Father's Day

>>65187445
is your sizing die not going all the way down on your brass? it looks like its only going abour 2/3rds down on those. or is that from the chamber after firing?

>>65189113
Yeah I noticed it too. My RCBS sizing dies definitely touch the shell holder per their instructions.
It's factory new brass from Starline that passes a Willson chamber gage before and after sizing. It works, doesn't seem like anythings wrong.

>>65130676
gonna try them to make sabot equivalents to 303/25/270 so i just use my p14

>>65163278
https://youtu.be/qSNNkN3ocfQ

>/k/ doesn't shoot so the thread dies no 34832342

How should I nigger rig rusty shotgun shells into .357 shot shells? Tore one down and there's 27grs of flake powder and 430grs of no7 lead shot.
I'm thinking just divide by ~5, five grains of powder and 80grs of shot per case.

>>65192400
Hmmm...
Can you identify the powder? The weight of the shot for the handgun shell shouldn't be an issue as long as it fits in the shot casing.

>>65192476
No idea, but five grains is below starting load for all powders I've seen when using bullets under a hundred something grains. So if anything it should not be any risk of overpressure, especially since the shot is way less dense than a bullet. I only fit 60 grains of shot on top of the wad over the powder, so that's going to have to do.

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>>65192577
Appears 5grs is too weak, this was three paces away and the spread and penetration is abysmal.

>>65192610
That's awesome that you're trying it. I'd go up by 0.2 grain increments, 2 loads at a time to see if they yield identical results.

>>65187445
Finished
>100rds 230gr plated round nose, 1.240" COAL 8.6grs Long Shot
>50rds 250gr plated flat nose, 1.185" COAL 7.0grs Long Shot
>50rds 185gr FMJ round nose, 1.230" COAL 10.1grs Long Shot
Still need to start on:
>25rds 200gr plated SWC, 1.245" COAL 9.4grs Long Shot
Debating on doing them in the morning and just getting Chinese and calling it a day. I'll probably shoot tomorrow and cross post between here and /hg/ w/ some pics and maybe targets if they're good.

>>65143469
big oof...
>>65161032
Our local recycler gave me shit for having spent primers mixed in with my garbage brass that also had spent primers in it... I got drunk over a week and separated them, got $100 out of a giant cat shit bucket full of brass and promised I would never go back to that place...

>>65194631
>gave me shit for having spent primers mixed in with my garbage brass that also had spent primers in it
What a fucking idiot

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Hello lads. She's finally here, my reloading press arrived today. There, now to get myself dies and tools, and space in my own house.

>>65195407
Welcome to the club

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Book recommendations on reloading and general ballistics, powder etc.

Does SAAMI have a bunch of free literature?

>>65197660
>free
You can get Sierra .pdfs per caliber for good data

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Shot the following:
230gr on 8.6grs of Long Shot
250gr on 7.0grs Long Shot
260gr (not pictured) on 7.1grs of Long Shot
185gr on 10.1grs of Long Shot
Both 6" and 9" G21L barrels
USP and 4" M&P
Did some before and after measurements of case width too. I'll post results later on.

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I usually post on /msg/ but come here every now and then. Took the Lee Navy out the other day, threw it in the lead sled and tested some 4064 and 4895 loads. Had one of the 28gr 4895 give a good powder burn on one side of the neck but otherwise was a good day. No concerning primer issues.

Next i'll get the chrono out and actually see what im getting.

154 grains, you are insane. btw abbreviation for grains is gr. abbreviation for grams is g.

>>65199001
I forgot the r for 10gr powder weight, but remembered it for the bullet weight in the OP.

>>65198533
>lead sled and a string
classic

>>65198533
I'm now wondering if there are any lead sleds that have a sliding carriage to let the rifle recoil (absorbed by a stiff spring)?
Keeping the rifle completely still ain't too crash hot.

>>65130178
I asked this in another thread, but you guys are the ones that are most likely to have an answer.
Why does .327 Federal Magnum out perform 30 Super carry? Both use a .312 diameter projectile that weighs in at 100 grains.
327 Federal Mag
45,000 psi
pushes the 100 grain bullet out of a 3 1/16" barrel at 1400 feet per second
30 Super Carry
52,000 psi
pushes a 100 grain bullet out of a 4 inch barrel at 1250 feet per second
I checked the numbers against manufacturers data and real world testing. The numbers are correct.
How?

>>65200970

huge increase in case capacity. 327 federal is nearly 10mm longer case.

>>65200975
Yeah, but why would that make bullet go faster out of shorter barrel when lower pressure?

>>65200996
>pressure
NTA but
>45,000 psi
And
>52,000 psi
Are max case pressures. That doesn't always mean they're loaded to those levels. Combined with .30 carry being so small, it's low case volume will make more pressure by nature of size. That doesn't equate to power it just means the bullet is not leaving the powder a lot of room in the case.

>>65200996
Imagine if you had a cartridge that was several feet long, and then a couple inches of barrel. You achieve your maximum pressure as the cartridge begins to move. Because the volume of the barrel is very small compared to the volume of the cartridge, the change in pressure as the bullet moves is very small. So you get to accelerate the bullet near maximum pressure the whole way.
The .327 is 9mm longer than the .30 super. I'm not saying this is the answer (as the other anon said it's probably just that they're not loaded to maximum) but it does have an effect.

>>65201086
That would depend on how you measure barrel length: 327 wins if it's revolver-style but .30 wins if it's tip-to-breech-face.

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Behold, my first ever reloaded metallic cartridges, 6 rounds of .38 special. 148 grain berry hollow base wad cutter over 3 grains of titegroup and a federal small pp, COL of 1.380. Gonna get shot out of a S&W 15-2. Hopefully all goes well and I can officially graduate from only 12 gauge reloading.

>>65201338
Desu, shotshell reloading is far less forgiving than normal metallic cartridge reloading.
I loaded 148gr hollowbased wadcutters seated to length backwards with my normal charge of HP-38.I think it was in the 3.8 Gr normal charge but that bullet seated that far really worries me and I don't think I want to grenade a cylinder or destroy a revolver frame. it's amazing how many non trash guns have tripled in value since 2020.
My forever Regret purchase was a 10Ga Browning BPS mirror Blued with engravings, walnut stocks, and IT WAS ONLY 600$ AT THE TIME.

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>>65201428
>shotshell reloading is far less forgiving than normal metallic cartridge reloading
Really? To me it seemed pretty forgiving. the difference between a soft plinker and a hard banger is like 1 grain in a pistol. I know I've overcharged shotshells by like 1.2 grains before and never felt it.
>it's amazing how many non trash guns have tripled in value since 2020.
Old guys with big beards and big bellys always ask if I was ever interested in selling my smith, I always say no but getting an easy ~$700 is always tempting.
>I don't think I want to grenade a cylinder or destroy a revolver frame.
Do you think mine are bad? I tried to load it pretty conservative, middle charge and the pill is seated about half length.

Is there a powder shortage again?

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