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Disco Bones edition
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I'm just not convinced by this character
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staw twek
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>>218286515
i dont like it. the only way out of that debt is tax avoidance and thats the only thing kurtzman is good at.
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>>218286427
I also enjoyed disco O'Brien
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This is why I don't even mind the idea of a TOS remake with modern effects and narrative depth. Nobody is ever taking the OG away from you. Get a bunch of classically trained stage actors. An episodic format with the B or C plot hinting at a bigger story, and a budget to make it work. You can even flesh out the side characters like Sulu and Uhura without overshadowing the main three. It also needs12 episode seasons that air every year for relevance. But nobody in Hollywood is talented or well intentioned enough to make that happen.
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>>218286741
Kirk is a womanizer and the borg are the primary antagonists of TNG. You made this post just so you could do the fat nerd ACHshully meme but unironically think you’re correct and smarter than everyone. Mostly because you crave human connection, which to be fair is the reason all of us are here.
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All the talking points about how Star Trek was always progressive and socialist made me think the franchise wouldn’t click with me. But I started with TNG and the characters won me over near instantly.
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>what's up Doc?
Can we rock?
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Would you guys join Starfleet if you lived in Staw Twek?
I wouldn't. It's too rigid. I'd probably Be a Colony Leader who builds a Colony which is fully based on making the planet a big Holodeck Imagination Center.
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The Federation President's office in Star Trek VI is just Ten-Forward with drapes
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Characters who I relate to most in Star Trek:
-Q
-The Traveler
-The Big Face who was watching the Enterprise Suffer.
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I, Borg is about the crew's internal conflicts.
The Borg in Descent are the victims of Lore.
That just leaves Q Who and BOTB. It would be more accurate to call Q, the Romulans, House of Duras, or even Cardassians the "main" antagonist if you had to pick one.
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>>218287141
I'd probably Be a Colony Leader who builds a Colony which is fully based on rape
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Characters who I relate to most in Star Trek:
-Middle aged Picard going back in time to give tongue to his female friend
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>>218287325
picard always had the best off duty fits
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>>218287348
Cardies don't do much in TNG. I'd say TNG has a lot of Klingon politics, or it at least it felt like it anyway. Some of the worst episodes of TNG. Made House of Quark so good when they messed around with the concept.
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The Cardassians are only antagonists because of DS9. Hell one of their first episodes (with Alamo as some other Gul) has them clearly in the right and O’Brien being a bigot. The Ferengi are talked about more in a more adversarial way than them in TNG
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>>218287333
>The Big Face who was watching the Enterprise Suffer.
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Characters I relate to:
Riker
That one Bajoran dude who was a negotiator
That one el Aurian dude from that one episode of deep space nine
Tom Paris
Quark when he actually makes a good deal (e.g., schooling the Vulcan on the price of peace in The Maquis, doing financial voodoo in House of Quark)
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It was a fire hazard
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Literally me
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Fire hazards I relate to:
Tuvok's birthday cake
Jadzia's Var'hama candle
The Fire caves on Bajor
Bringloidi distilling in Cargo Bay 2
Whatever was happening here
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Characters I relate to:
Neelix because he is annoying and people on the internet jerk off to his feet
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>>218287690
More people watch Starfleet Academy than jerk off to your feet, girly pop.
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>>218287715
Yeah but I bet my feet has better reviews.
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>>218287728
Based on only review. That's thesole data point.
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the one I relate to is Weyounie
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"Lower Decks! Lower Decks!"
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>>218288566
You never bullied anyone.
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A couple years ago someone posted a photo from the NuTrek panel at some convention. The audience was overwhelmingly fat, white, and middle aged. All the proof you need that NuTrek is not resonating with younger and more diverse audiences.
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>>218289140
OH NONONONOONNOONNOONNOONONONON
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>>218289179
>Hijab woman in a post religion society
>Gay couple in the background
>Darmok in the frame as a cheap memberberry
The NuTrek episode of all time
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>>218289179
Can someone explain woke's weird alliance with Islam for me? I thought they had opposite goals
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Lo-waa Deggs! Lo-waa Deggs! Lo-waa Deggs! Yaaaayyy!!!
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>>218289340
It started after 9/11 because rednecks and the Bush government in general were being pretty mean to Arabs. Both sides are merely mirrors of one another so it can only change if conservatives become pro-Islam first
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>>218286506
You should be
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>>218289393
There was a wave of shows and movies in the early 2000s where the white and black heroes beat up and killed brown people. Ever wonder why the show 24 has almost no cultural nostalgia? The whole thing was Jack Bauer going around pistol whipping Muslims. Now New York has a Muslim mayor.
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>>218289393
if conservatives could snap their fingers and make women hide their faces and bodies in public and be publicly stoned to death for pretty much any reason and restrict them from driving and whatever they would.
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>if conservatives could snap their fingers and make women hide their faces and bodies in public and be publicly stoned to death for pretty much any reason and restrict them from driving and whatever they
I'm a conservative and I think women should wear less, not more. If it were up to me, they would all walk around in bikinis.
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>>218289472
Why do I have to choose between this and women counting down until their 18th birthday so they can start an OnlyFans?
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Yeah it’s because Bush’s approval rating was like 90% after. People were legitimately considering Japanese style WWII internment for towelheads. So the defense of them became a touchstone of the furthest left opposition, as pointing to the poor wittle Aladdins and generating sympathy was a way to criticize their political opponents without seeming too unpatriotic
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>>218289509
It's like how Starfleet sacrificed Federation citizens so that Cardassians could take their rightful place on the UFP council.
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>>218289837
But Kurtzman refuses to follow that money and keeps chasing an audience that does not exist instead. What 18 year old is getting into the franchise through ACK?
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>>218289857
The best middle ground is some sort of liberal chillax'd 90s view where as long as your view isn't hurting people, then it can exist in common society. And chillax means, no cancelling. Just calm discourse.
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I wish you faggots weren't so griftoid outrage brained because we could probably have some fun treating this show as the teen drama slop that it is instead of pretending to be mad about it without even watching it and talking about it anyway
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>you cant be non bianary and gay, dumbass
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>>218290133
Alexander, BEE reasonable!
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>>218287333
im this nigga, everybody hates him and through no fault of his own, he gets ganked for his sins
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>>218289984
I can't stand the dialogue. It's like seeing Frodo or Luke Skywalker talk like "Ayo f*m dis shit bussin for real". just wrong on every level.
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I'm serious. There are nerds and there are nerds.
Some people are nerds because they're intelligent and have forceful personalities that lead them to like something other than mumble rap and whatever slop is popular when they're growing up. These are the "leaders" of the nerd cliques.
Meanwhile, the average Lower Decks fan is the type of nerd that is just a nerd because they don't like to shower and they can't get along with anyone socially. They've been outcast by every group because they're autistic and unpleasant. These are the types of nerds that are at the bottom of the nerd pecking order. The leftovers, the redditors.
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this wouldnt bother me if there was a character who was taking like christianity seriously and praying. they put more effort into making sure the muslim women are covered and also get put next to other fake space religions like the bajorans. remember kids: only what we the writers like makes it into the show and we are taking saudi money
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>>218291322
Wasn’t this image some sci-fi/nutrek convention thing
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>>218291096
I understand wanting to create relatable characters who speak like young people. But that's how you date a show horribly. Chekov never said 'groovy' or 'far out' to appeal to kids in the late 60's. Wesley and Jake also avoided contemporary slang. And the dialogue is one of the best aged things about 20th century Trek.
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>we've got to save the whales jim
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I don't even hate new Trek. I just don't care and I am tired of things being made by a boardroom instead of one person with an idea and a concise vision. People want something to pad out a streaming service and appeal to X demographic nobody has an actual story they want to tell.
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Journos have to give it a good review or they stop getting advanced screenings for other projects by the studio. IGN gives every ACK episode 7 or 8 out of ten because they want more Paramount screeners.
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>what happened in season 4 to make the women leave
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>>218291495
I swing heavily between
>who cares it's over anyways and nobody likes this new stuff anyways
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>wow its bad, its irreparable, they have just fucked the entire franchise and this is all technically canon and there is no coming back from this
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This one?
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>>218293118
It's okay. I liked recruiting Kanut the Kazon Dude.
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They never did resolve this plot. What if it turns out all of starfleet was infiltrated and that's why all the new shows are retarded?
Paramount should use this as a way to retcon all that shit with in-universe lore.
Don't even waste time trying to make it logical. Just say it's what fucking happened and move on with a new seriesAlso bring back jellicoe
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It's been a long time since I have watched ENT, who are the MACOs and why were they even on the NX-01 again? Were they just Starfleet special forces deployed because of the Xindi war shit? I can't remember
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Turns out it was just some trill
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They are literally so asympathetic to Riker’s teleporter clone. It’s like one of the most psychologically horrifying things I could imagine and everyone is pretty meh and ambivalent (even Riker himself)
I guess that’s better than the realistic panic attack oh my feelings writing that would happen today but it’s still kinda uncomfortable.
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>They are literally so asympathetic to Riker’s teleporter clone.
Did you watch the episode where Riker murders all the clones of himself and of other people? For people that seek out new life it's very jarring.
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>>218293572
>hey Deanna I’ve been stranded for 8 years thinking about you and I’ve finally won you back can you please come with me to my new post that Captain Picard pulled strings to get me?
>idk Will.. the guy who stole your life said something similar to me.. and I like the enterprise yk? :3
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Character I relate to most is Mr. Homn
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>Seriously, what's up with civilian clothing in Star Trek? Too much cross pollination with alien cultures? Everyone wears weird wrap around shirts with v-necks. Do t-shirts and denim not exist?
The Producers wanted clothing that characters could still easily wear, but look slightly different enough that it didn't look like normal human clothes that anyone could buy.
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>>218286741
Not reallu osmosis but my first introduction to Trek was the TNG episode where Data starts hallucinating and tries to butcher Troi. It deeply disturbed me as a little kid for a while I thought Data was supposed to be a villain.
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they walk among us
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I don't relate to anyone real or fictitious
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I would seriously argue that Voyager had the best overall Trek pilot, but the sequence in Emissary where Sisko tries to teach the prophets about time and exploration while confronting his trauma is maybe the peak of the franchise. We didn't deserve Michael Piller.
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>>218294435
I had a dream where BF was pitching woo at me and I was oblivious but my wife wasn't and when she told me I stopped being BF's drinking buddy. Dreams are bullshit. Don't have them.she was a good platonic drinking buddy because we could bant about trek and she was one of the boys
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Even when they find out they're fake doubles and destined to melt away, Janeway STILL insists on soldiering on to Earth at all costs, and the crew still goes along with it. I would've mutinied at that point.
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MACOS are space marines, like others mention. They're on the NX-01 because the crew of the Enterprise have basically no combat training and, yes, they were deployed because of the Xindi War. Archer asked for them because he had a rare moment of lucidity from his CTE.
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was it always like that or did you lose something along the way?
you have to learn to pretend you relate to their treks and remember to force yourself to smile
accepting no one else cares about anything and just skirting by with quick superficial chit chat makes it easier
permanent green ranger mode, you're in you're out, no commitments, no attachments, no deep talks about gay shit like feelings
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>>218294468
Has there ever been a time in your life where you saw someone go through a similar event you've experienced before, then they react similarly to how you reacted? That's all it means to relate to someone.
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I get along with people just fine
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When you relate to a character they are literally you right
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A sociopath detected
I've read Blindsight so I know there's value in your kind but only under a tight leash
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i'm >>218294655
my brother is literally a diagnozed sociopath also mildly schizophrenic, its extremely disturbing being around him for any length of time, he's been in and out of prison his entire life this guy >>218294600
if he's being honest, reminds me of him, my brother is on heavy medication now its the only way to manage him
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yes actually my grandmother was schizophrenic, it thankfully skipped a generation my mother was mentally sound my brother though, shame it took so long to get him properly diagnosed, the damage he caused before he was though, everyone is still recovering from it
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>playing STO
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kek'd
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Shes been ozempic'd btw.
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>>218296455
Not everyone can admire skilled craftsmanship.
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It's retarded "enemy of my enemy" bullshit. The fact that the Abrahamic religions disagree with each other doesn't change the fact that they all their holy books criticize homosexuality
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>>218286427
is there any sort of fan made compilation of all of Garak's episodes/scenes?
i'm only interested in him and not the other retards. The Ferengi guy is kinda cool too.
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>>218286427
>The only logical course of action... would be to get our groove on.
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Let's settle this.
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>>218289472
>women should have rights
Lol.
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if she down i'm down. i think sex with a vulcan would be the most amazing thing ever, trying to elicit an emotional response would be the mount Everest peak of sexual achievement.
i'm just now watching Deep Space 9 for the first time ever, 11:47 seconds into Episode 1, is this a good guide to follow? i'm really just here for Garak, i really don't care to listen to women or a nigger speak but i'll sit through it just because it's something to have on and i enjoyed The Next Generation to degrees growing up.
Nemesis was my favorite Trek media by far if that's something to go off what i will enjoy.
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>Nemesis was my favorite Trek media by far
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>>218297673
i'm a Star Trek newb, no bully, bitch.
Also why does nigger man hate Picard? Was it because he was a Borg and killed his daughter or something?
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>>218297730
>nooooooo you can't just skip filler and awful episodes where they go down to some planet and talk to monkeys
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>>218297821
Because it's the future, baby!
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Alright so skip all episodes and just rewatch Nemesis, got it. Good looking out anon!
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>>218297866
It's not illogical at all, the insanity defense is still employed in the justice system to this day.
If your wife's killer was determined to be mental impaired would you hate your wife's killer any less?
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>>218297925
Picard wasn't insane, he was taken over as a Borg, which means he basically became a robot, he didn't just have a bad day.
Maybe i'm just a Star Trek newb but i think saying "oh those Borg, they're just crazy that's all" is pretty fucking far off in describing them.
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>>218297989
Actually i am basically the most intellectually prepared person ever, and i know this because my opinion is right once again; Picard did nothing wrong and the nigger is just being an emotional monkey that can into logical things and stuff.
So there.
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Yeah but you can enjoy ass suckage more conveniently now, isn't that wonderful? Plus we now get to speedrun watching the Garak show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1soc5n2bcSE
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>>218298155
i remember seeing one, must be on one of my older hard drives in my attic. Maybe if >>218297925 wasn't being such an emotional ape he could find it for us.
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These are the voyages
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>>218298155
Found this very fucking shitty version with jewgle.
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>>218297866
It's natural to hate someone who killed your wife. Humans aren't so robotic that we can easily separate the fact that the murderer was mind controlled. Every time you'd look at the man you'd look at the face of your wife's killer.
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>>218298437
I watch everything I can on the first go, to form my own opinion.
After that I rewatch whatever I remember enjoying most. Sometimes if I don't remember an episode that well, I'll watch it to see if it grips me this time.
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>>218298171
Ahem. See >>218298421 image designed for dumb heads like yourself with incorrect and illogical opinions.
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Look i'm not interested in the fantasy of aliens allowing us to put sub-Saharan Africans in space unleashing our parasites onto the universe. i just want to watch the Garak show.
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>>218298434
Except your wife didn't die in your dream, she died in real life and the (mind controlled) person that killed her faced no real consequences for it. Every time you'd look at the person who killed your wife afterwards you'd see the murderer who got away relatively scot free.
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>>218298521
>GROUNDS!
How very, very illogical of you.
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>>218298532
That's an admirable position to have, but I don't think most people could have it in practice. You'd be full of what ifs and blame him. It's worth remembering that the people mourning their dead loved ones most likely also wouldn't get the full picture of what happened.
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>you have to act on emotions instead of logic
How very non-white of you.
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>>218298743
Star trek humans are not like current year humans, that's the whole point. Gene believed we would no longer be victims of fear, anger and hatred, and dedicate our lives to bettering ourselves, gay orgies on Risa, mocking the Irish and hologooning.
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>>218298743
>we're able to do space stuffs and warp 11 but can't control our emotions like sub-Saharan Africans
Look buddy i know it's difficult to fathom what white people do and how they do it, but it's just genetic, different subspecies.
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Star Trek humans have developed to a point where the specific struggles we have today don't (or shouldn't) exist but that doesn't mean that negative emotions don't exist. The good and the bad are a package deal but it's through bettering ourselves that we can focus on the positive after working through the negative emotions.
>>218298825
Star Trek was never about humans becoming Vulcans obsessed with logic.
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Does Klingon milk taste funky?
>>218298878
>if you don't think irrationally then you are obsessed with logic
Or just obey logic instead of emotions, pretty simple, i don't know how to better explain it to your monkey brain other than it being like a speed limit for safety of yourself and others. Sisko acting a fool because he can't control his sub-Saharan African genetics should immediately invalidate him being in any command position.
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>>218298923
You're the person obsessed with logic. That's not how humans work, do you have a heavy case of autism or something? Sometimes there are messy situations where nobody is really at fault but people still feel negative emotions from them.
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