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>>220442128
Growing up I assumed Mulan was trans but decided to girlmode for convenience and thought nothing about it. I always thought Reflection was about being trans.
Anyway this movie used to be so popular. I guess the rise of magatards coincided with this film losong cultural relevence because almost every character is gay.
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>>220442361
Actually, Disney themselves threw it under the bus during their suck China's dick campaign, because it disrespects Chinese culture and is also "problematic" towards transgenders. That's why they made the shit live action version to apologize to China.
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>>220442573
You're sick
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>>220442128
>all the 'heroic' male Chinese characters make a big deal about a woman defiling male space and bringing dishonor to her father
>the main villain, a barbarian rapist murderer horseman warlord, gives literally no shits about Mulan being a woman and goes after her solely because she was the one who killed his soldiers
Shan Yu should have won.
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how old are the characters in this? different period/culture, Disneyfication, etc. but she has tits. she sees naked men and then says
>i don't want to see a naked man ever again!!!
like it's some gross icky thing (i suppose parents would complain if she so much as blushed with arousal.)
Renaissance Disney was such a weird time period. i mean, is Mulan a good woman, or role model? is she aspirational, and strong, or whatever? or is she a fucking freak who could have used her female strengths, the same way the male soldiers used theirs?
it's like if you made a Joan of Arc film where Joan of Arc actually fights in battle. the problem isn't the lie, it's that you'd be downplaying the actually transgressive thing she did.
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>>220442887
Children can, and Mulan is only 16. Shang probably thought she was just a slightly younger boy.
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>>220443054
It's almost like as you continue to live you gain words to describe abstract ideas from your childhood. Also knowing trans or gay people exist isn't abuse to people who don't hypersexualize everything.
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>>220443077
Snow White is 14.
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>>220443112
Even if you knew what "trans" was as a kid (yes this means you were likely abused), nothing in the film suggests Mulan was "trans". She pretended to be a man to serve in the army, because women were not allowed to serve. Never once is it stated by her or anyone else that she actually thinks she is a man. Kill yourself.
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>>220443123
Jasmine is 15 and seduces a man like 3 times her age.
Disney used to be based.
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>>220443128
>he can fool everyone by just lying
>I'm such a clever propagandist for my LBGTQ cause
>we're all very good at this and that's why Trump got reelected and we're now banned from the Olympics
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>>220443123
Out of 10!
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>>220442956
>only 16
come on dude. that's not a little kid, you know what a 16-year-old looks like. i had sex with an 'only' 16-year-old when i was 16. so did most people.
i thought Mulan was like 14-15 and Shang was 17-19.
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>>220443171
Retard I was saying what I assumed at the time as a child with a limited perspective. It didn't take a genius to know some men wanted to be women and vice versa. Even within Mulan itself they spelled out that one of Mulan's ancestors was a crossdresser. You dumb fag.
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>>220443267
Sorry you were raised in a cave and I wasn't lol
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>>220443277
The movie was released in 1998. Kids were focused on...being kids and not any weird idpol shit. Their parents wouldn't have even been savvy to that to push it on them since OWS was close 15 years away and that's when the big LGBTQ campaign started.
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>>220443242
>Even within Mulan itself they spelled out that one of Mulan's ancestors was a crossdresser
Shit I remembered this wrong it was the ancestors calling Mulan a crossdresser and arguing which side of the family she "gets it" from.
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>>220443112
when i was under 12, all i knew is that being 'gay' was THE playground insult and it was bad to 'be gay'. i later learned it meant boys who liked other boys instead of girls, which was wrong.
myself and another boy were confused by WHY that was wrong. some other kids dared us to kiss, we did, they reacted with disgust but it was like eating worms.
i am bisexual, and i wouldn't be surprised if the other boy grew up gay. but we didn't invent all this faggot vernacular like 'uh actually i was undergoing oriental dysphoria perpetuated by heteronormative hegemonies that...'
you are SO desperate to be a victim. spoiler to autists: wanting rights is the OPPOSITE of wanting to be special.
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>>220442128
Shang was gonna get a tomboy with cute feet or a femboy with cute feet
either way he won/was going to win
lucky bastard
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>>220443372
The babble of mouth breathing retards who can't read or infer context doubling down because they can't imagine different lived experiences. I had a southern 90s childhood by the way.
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>>220443389
Sounds kind of like my upbringing. As a kid I didn't think about relationships at all. Some people were parents with kids, that's just how it was. When I moved to Virginia suddenly "gay" was like the only insult any kids used and I didn't even know what it meant.
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>>220443438
i still just dont get it from his perspective 50% chance Mulan was a tomboy 50% chance of being a femboy meaning he had a 100% chance of winning yet hes sad. Seriously if the armor drops and shes a girl the first thought should be "imma creampie her" and if she turned out to be a femboy his first thought shouldve been "imma creampie him"
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>>220443478
it's clear in your description. i can believe you had body image issues and were confused about your sexuality. that's fine, it's common, and distressing. i wish it happened less in kids.
but why those terms you used, or your overly-individualistic view of it all? at this point i have to mentally triage you people: i have heard from/about maybe 2-3 anorexic people in years. i have heard, no joke, thousands of accounts like yours. both online and IRL.
my armchair theory is a lot of you have autism and confuse 'i don't understand the world and human socialization' with gender mores. failing that, you are INCREDIBLY histrionic. natal, AFAB, cisgender, whatever women do not talk the way you do. and if you're a trans man, you would actually get beaten up. i know a detrans woman (so, believed she was a man) who cried at work and became a total pariah. she thought that was normal/natural. because she is a woman.
i hope you figure this shit out, anon. but at least CONSIDER a differential diagnosis, for your own sake.
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>>220443614
>she already has developed breasts and hips, disgusting! what an old hag!
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>>220443680
>tfw it's cock inspection day
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>>220443590
Most of us had normal childhoods, believe it or not.
>>220443608
It's not that deep anon, he's just trolling.
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>>220443711
>It's not that deep anon, he's just trolling.
yeah you're right. he overdid it early on, i was giving him too much benefit of the doubt.
trolls trolling trolls etc. at least trans as a trend is dying down. i wonder what'll come next. some cyberpunk thing, maybe?
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>>220443675
Sorry your tumblr years fucked you up but that isn't my problem or my fault. You think caling an anon "autistic" is some kind of deep cut as if this isn't the autism capital of the internet and none of us are normal people. You all misunderstood my initial post because you're poisoned by the internet and are trying to flip it back onto me for some reason only you understand.
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>>220443768
Now I AM trolling. You're calming yourselves down after having a melty over such a benign statement triggering your reddit/twitter/tumblr ptsd and letting out the sick comebacks you wish you'd said to a past aggressor of yours using me as a stand in for them. Trying to consumer
convince me I'm a victim when I haven't said that once and actively denied it because it makes you feel better somehow. Well I actually hope it did make you feel better, because you clearly need it.
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>>220443860
i am actually, genuinely confused. so are you a trans person or not? i'll use your language, and i do actually believe there can be true transsexuals.
if you're trolling, you got me.
if not,
>i hope you figure this shit out, anon. but at least CONSIDER a differential diagnosis, for your own sake.
i do actually mean this.
i'm not trying to upset you. i do personally feel passionate about this because of how it's affected people i care about (and taken away from care elsewhere - it IS zero sum in the field i work in).
i'm not trying to piss people off on the internet for kicks. trans people who dance around like trolls
>lolol die cis scum!!!
yeah, fuck em and their 'irony'.
young, trans-identifying people who have just taken this identity on-board, but DEFINITELY would not have 20 years ago? they have my sympathy. i've seen some shit, anon.
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>>220444111
checked
CIA lost
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>>220444059
cannibal billionaires use pseudo trad aesthetics to soothe you into being enslaved and losing every last right and liberty you once took for granted. they literally see you as cattle and you accept it willingly.
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>>220443016
incredible how this dude became one of the most beautiful females in the history of the planet for the sequel
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>>220442361
>the army comes to every family to conscript, Mulan takes the family sword and horse to selflessly fight in her feeble father's place to protect him from certain death
>oh wow I thought she was trans xD
Its bait but I still responded
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>>220442128
>No, a ROMAN.
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>>220442361
Mulan falls in love with a man and wants to get fucked by him pretty early on, and is a Disney Princess. She even has a gorgeous cartoon gown and assortment of girl shit. She wasn't even a tomboy. She dressed as a man for other reasons.
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>>220444444
>Hey you all, as a child I assumed one thing about a character based on my limited knowledge at the time. You can infer that my interpretation has changed as I got older.
>"YOU WERE WRONG BY THE WAY. I AM VERY SMART."
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Out of 10
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Let's get down to business, to defeat the Huns
Did they send me daughters, when I asked for sons?
You're the saddest bunch I ever met
But you can bet before we're through
Mister, I'll make a man out of you
Tranquil as a forest but on fire within
Once you find your center, you are sure to win
You're a spineless, pale, pathetic lot
And you haven't got a clue
Somehow I'll make a man out of you
I'm never gonna catch my breath
Say goodbye to those who knew me
Boy, was I a fool in school for cutting gym
This guy's got 'em scared to death
Hope he doesn't see right through me
Now I really wish that I knew how to swim
Be a man
We must be swift as the coursing river
Be a man
With all the force of a great typhoon
Be a man
With all the strength of a raging fire
Mysterious as the dark side of the moon
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>>220444432
>transvestites
Yeah. I remember using this term, and it's like it's lost meaning. Somehow transgender and transvestite come off as 2 different things...which i guess they are. I suppose a true transvestite is born with both genitalia, whereas a transgender is just a mentally ill cross dresser.
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>>220445005
Transvestite = someone who wears the clothing of the opposite gender. Transgender = someone who believes they literally are the opposite gender.
Obviously there's overlap, and most who are one are both, but not necessarily. For example, Mulan was a transvestite, but not transgender. She wore men's clothes and acted like a man, but she never believed she was a man. Whereas a tranny who demands you call xer a woman and uses the women's bathroom is both a transvestite and transgender.
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>>220442128
I would be disappointed if my cute asian twink was a woman as well
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>>220445089
I was going to brush you off with "it's a kids movie," but it's not like kids movies have never implied rape before even metaphorically. The main soldiers are obviously implied to be gay except Shang and maybe the big nosed womanizer who wants a pale wife. Half the comedy rests on gay innuendo. Religious parents used to clutch their pearls when they realized how much gay subtext was in Disney movies. Disneyland used to have Gay Day since 1991. idk if they're still doing that today but back then no one normal gave a shit.
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>>220444444
Holy check'd batman! Sextuplets of truth
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Back then transsexual, transvestite, and gender identity disorder were the common terms used in polite company when talking about people who intentionally tried to present as the opposite sex. It was open-minded terminology at the time, more politically correct than "tranny" or "freak" and a genuine effort to understand their plight. Obviously it has evolved since then, but the discussion was already being had in some capacity in the media and in school. Politics weren't as extreme then and being lite-liberal was the zetgeist up until 9/11 and the Obama election cycle which made every aspect of existing a lot more polarized at least for Americans
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>>220445947
Also being gay, while still not fully accepted, was becoming a lot more commonplace in the media. Kids programming often had a zesty character who never got married, behaved like a drag queen, wore one earring, etc. and episodic shows aimed at teens and adults often had that one episode where someone is revealed to be gay or assumed to be gay and it's treated like a big fuckin deal and everyone tried to be casual about it but still made jokes at their expense, which was still pretty inclusive for the time.
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>>220445919
Seething samefagging zoom zoom
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>>220443267
i never though Mulan was trans but I knew what trans was, around the early 00s Scholastic was already putting pro-LGBT books in their catalog each year, although the one I read was more about crossdressing than trans. I remember just thinking it was weird but the book was pretty good, forgot all about trans as a thing afterwards until I went to college though.
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>>220446287
I always forget normies aren't tuned in to this shit whatsoever. One of my besties hadn't even heard of 4chan when I mentioned it offhand and she's over 25 and I immediately told her to forget it. Her face had such pure curiosity, so untainted by knowledge.
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>>220446287
>he doesn't know how to hide his power level
>he thinks everyone had a fucked up childhood like him
Sorry anon, most of us did have a normal childhood, and we gravitated towards this site because we hated the alternatives.
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>>220446365
You're really projecting anon. This site is nowhere near as controversial as it once was, especially since the 2016 tourism. Most of us found our way here because Plebbit is too much of an echo chamber and we found some board that appealed to us. Some of us value anonymity and being able to say whatever we want. That's not because we were neglected. That's just true human nature.
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sigh... the meaning intended was that if you had a normal childhood you would not have gravitated towards here in the first place or been on the internet this much, especially if you're a millenial and not a zoomer. And I don't mean having a ''fucked up childhood'', whatever you think that means, but just being outside of the healthy norm in school. Normal people spent most of their time with friends, doing sports etc etc not being on here. You'd have been happy on FB like every other idiot.
Sorry you had to learn you're not normal this way, son.
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>>220444030
Mmm nah, your projection’s not working, sorry. You’re the only one having a melty, once more everyone can see that. Also next time you want people to think you aren’t from Reddit, avoid the old “who hurt you?? please get help” schtick and just call them a nigger like a normal person.
“you all’s”.
Lmao. Better luck next time?
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>>220446446
It really depends on when you came to this site then.
>Normal people spent most of their time with friends, doing sports etc etc not being on here. You'd have been happy on FB like every other idiot.
I was one of those idiots in HS/College. Had MySpace and FB. Played sports. Friends. Went on dates. I spent more time on FB/MySpace if I was online more than anything else. I'm still here now. Not everyone here is some "Chud" like what's commonly pushed. We all got hooked on this site for different reasons. Maybe I'm the exception to the rule, but I believe there's way more normal people here than you give credit for.
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>>220446543
nta, would be pretty interesting to have a thread where everyone says when they came here and why they stayed. It'd probably be a lot of lying but still entertaining. For me, it was some tall pale freak of a kid who did his media class presentation on the subject of 4chan and especially raids, checked it out as soon as I got back to my dorm.
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>>220446640
Funnyjunk was my go to site back in the day. Which was basically 4chan-lite in terms of the user base. They kept posting threads from this site for "content" so I eventually came to the source. This was early 2010s for me. /x/ was probably the board that originally got me hooked.
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>>220446599
*yawn*
Mm? You still projecting? Sorry “you all’s” poster, it’s a little (very much) too late for that. It wouldn’t work in a OG like me anyway. You outed yourself as a Redditor. You had a Reddit-style melty. But it’s okay, there’s always next time, right? Now go back home and tell your friends how mean the chuds on 4chan were.
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>>220442361
No you didn't, troon.
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Btw OGs like me never need to defend against accusations of being a new fav, because it’s just so self-evident that I’ve been here from the start that those accusations fall flatter than Elliot Page’s tits. God it feels good to be white.
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>>220446715
I keep saying you all because it rage baits you every single time which only a paranoid newfriend trying very hard to fit in would do. It's almost cute. I'm glad you're finally leaving reddit. You've been self-reporting as a redditor literally this entire conversation. 4chan is ironicaly one of the more peaceful websites to be on if you don't obsessively call everything under the sun reddit and just let yourself be an idiot snd avoid boards that behave like reddit, like /cgl/ and /lgbt/.
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>>220446688
>/x/ was probably the board that originally got me hooked.
same, i dunno if the board is shit now or my younger mind was just more apt to enjoy it back then but /x/ just kept me coming here. That and the infoguides that used to get dumped all the time on /b/
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>>220446803
>if the board is shit
100%. Also way less traffic than its heyday. There used to be so many good infodumps, and good creepypasta threads. It's such a sad version of its former self...but that's most boards on this site.
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>>220446880
>under my friend
meant under my *breath lol.
>>220446917
i guess you're bringing it out of me. like a baby lamb lost in the wood
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>>220446899
I check it out from time to time but yeah...There was a really good thread a few weeks ago where people just talked about weird or paranormal shit they'd heard about in their area, interesting stuff for once.
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>>220447010
>I’ll [failed attempt to make running away sound cool]
Yep, run run back to safety, babe. God I love that sweet brown ass (and being white).
Well, that was probably one of my easiest victories but w/e. Everyone else feeling good? :)
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>>220442956
Mulan is the only disney princess that both canonically does any actual real Adult work (farmer and soldier) and kills people
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>>220442695
easily agitated chinese chinks hate both the animated and the horrendous live action
western/SEA chinese diaspora like the animation/hate the live action
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>made me laughed
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