How is it possible to "mod" in lower input delay?

>>734074197
>Japs can only compete if they have a handicap
kek

>noooo we can't have advantage because of low ping anymore
>call the nintendy hq

it's sad long how 4chan has been an alternative twitter comment section

>>734074197
>Some of them are reporting the mod and players who are using it to Nintendo
Good. Why would you allow one side to have a competitive advantage? Thankfully, Nintendo actually cares about its players and integrity and will do something about this unlike other gaming companies.

>lower input delay
>uncensored porn
>can eat cheese without shitting my pants
>don't want to kill myself every other day
god i love not being japanese

>>734074197
Holy shit, this game is so bad modders managed to remove 3 frames of input lag.

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Melee player Hungrybox is also running a $1,000, 20-player online invitational with the mods today. The 41st ranked player, Shion, is entering the tournament with the mods, which is causing a lot of controversy among Japanese players.

>>734074197
Why do retarded Japs think Modding=Cheating?

>>734074197
>giving a competitive advantage to Western players
why can't the japanese players just use the mod?

>>734074197
Literally not a single nom autistic person cares. Fuck off op

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>>734074197
I don't understandaru
If they want offline frames, then why not just play offline to practice? Surely there's enough local players in a sardine can population like Japan to get together for practice pretty frequently.

......why does that need a mod to begin with? It should be part of the base game

>we can't have the same practice volume because... because... you have the same latency as us now, ok???

They don't even use this mod in tournament lol, the japs are seething because people are able to... play online with less input delay which means they can practice better which means its an unfair advantage(?)

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>>734074197
>cheating
you didn't beat the Nihonjin.

>>734074559
Yeah, I was gonna say. If they had any sense at all they would incorporate what sounds like an objective improvement to the game into the game's code itself. And they should be thanking the modders for doing unpaid development work for them.

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>>734074197
>instead of asking Nintendo to fix their damn game they are demanding a mod to be banned
A nation of corporate drones indeed

>>734074559
It should but nintendo doesnt really give a shit
Online play has like a minimum of 10 frames delay which is there no matter how good your connection is
And if they REALLY cared they wouldve done rollback netcode
Support is over for smash now iirc besides amiibo

>>734074303
Smash Ultimate has 2 layers of native input delay
>layer 1 is the game's native input delay, which is something that all games have, but Ultimate's is a relatively high 6 frames
>layer 2 is the game's online input delay, which is an additional 4 frames that has nothing to do with the game's netcode
This brings the total up to 10 frames of input delay online, which is one of the reasons why the game feels so sluggish and unresponsive. There are two different mods that reduce the input delay. One reduces the native, offline input delay by 3 frames, bringing it down to 3 frames. The other reduces the online delay by about 2-3 frames. https://github.com/Naxdy/latency-slider-de

So someone using both mods online has an advantage of 5 frames over their opponent, which in a 60 fps game equates to a .08s reaction time advantage. It sounds insignificant, but it actually changes a lot.

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>>734074549
That's part of what's causing controversy. Japanese players completely dominate the top 100, and Western players have long held the belief that it's not because they're better at the game or better at Ultimate's competitive meta (which is centralized around touch-of-death combos, camping, and timeouts), but because they have many more opportunities to play offline against good players.
>Japan is a small country
>Japan has excellent public transportation
>Japanese players just have to take a train ride to play at a major tournament every weekend
Now the shoe's on the other foot, and Japanese players are crying foul.

>>734074559
in a perfect world nintendo would just contact the modders involved and have them integrate their fixes into the game

but this is nintendo we're talking about

>>734074774
thanks for the explanation anon.
Nintendo sounds shit.

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>>734075045
>55% of the top 100 is Japanese
no wonder they're pissed. the funny thing is that they don't even make money from tournaments because it's illegal. they're only allowed to receive prizes like rice. meanwhile, Americans actually need to pay hundreds of dollars to attend tournaments and prize pools, as small as they are, offset the travel expenditures for top players.

>>734074625
why he eated the golf ball, though??

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>>734074501
Because they legally can't, or at least it's a legal grey area for them.
https://www2.accsjp.or.jp/activities/2018/pr6.php
It's not actually illegal to mod your Switch. What IS illegal is distributing or selling mods, modded consoles, etc. This wouldn't be an issue if it weren't Nintendo we're talking about, who are notoriously anti-mod, and whom the Japanese are fanatically devoted to. Even if Nintendo doesn't intervene, Japanese Smash players will self-police and ban anyone who uses the mod.

In fact, they already did this with one of their own top players. When it was discovered that he had been using the old latency mod to reduce online input delay, he banned himself from tournaments for 2 months before the community could ban him, which actually worked. Many Japanese players argued that the self-ban didn't go far enough and that he should've been permanently banned from competition. He's now ranked #4 in the world.

Meanwhile the US is just barreling forward with absolutely no regard for the consequences when Nintendo finds out that players are using a mod that gives them a competitive advantage, online, against normal, casual players.

>>734074324
i don't get it

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>>734075698
*gulp*

>>734075540
>>734074774
one thing you're missing is that the mod is not one sided: both players need it on to benefit. See the OP tweet saying that the westerners are getting an unfair advantage *in pratice* as in; their practice sessions are better because of this mod.

Japanese seethe about modding is fucking retarded and I hope the westoid faggots in the community don't capitulate.

>>734076101
So if I live in Japan and send my buddy JarlBalgruufBigNaturals.esp I'm criminally liable?

>>734076101
>consequences
kek. Maybe in Japland yeah.

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>>734076258
ANOTHER $500 VET BILL

>>734074197
Fuck japs

>>734074197
Its a party game, aren't you supposed to have fun?

>>734074197
So how is this possible? Wouldn't you need a hacked console to run mods? I thought bingtendo was on top of their game identifying and banning players using hacked consoles?

>>734074559
It will be once you pay for $30 shitch 2 upgrade patch bitch

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>>734076458
Nice try

>>734076354
Nintendo regularly sticks their fingers into competitive Smash for much less. For example, they forced Melee tournaments to stop running Pokemon Stadium without transformations, which became the standard when Slippi emerged in ~2019. If they're so anal about mods that they see people playing an irrelevant, 25 year-old party game with a minor mod that makes a stage slightly more balanced for competitive play and say,
>This shall not stand
they're going to be pissed the second they find out that there's a mod that lets people "cheat".

What's funny is that in one of the first tournaments that complied with the frozen Pokemon Stadium ban, the infamous tree glitch ended the entire tournament: https://youtu.be/maosLBAHa-I?t=592

>>734076458
I don't think they can actually detect hacked consoles

Can they?

>>734074197
Why does westoid nigger use a mods in the first place?
I thought that the smash scene is filled with the most vile, puritans ftg in gaming scene.

>>734076281
lmao, that makes it so much more pathetic

>>734076665
heavily depends. Nintendo can't root around in your switch and see if you've hacked it, but they CAN see if your switch has run games with unique identifiers that other hacked consoles have run and deduce some things

>>734076818
>I thought that the smash scene is filled with the most vile, puritans ftg in gaming scene.
>puritans
They're vile but they're not puritans. These niggers would CHEAT if they can't get caught.

>>734076818
>ESL and also stupid
a conversion mod was more popular than its base game at one point before nintendo ate it alive

>>734076818
it used to be in the first 10 years of the smash scene's life.
It changed when someone realized that if your gamecube controller is broken in a very specific way, you can perform options at ledge that give you a massive advantage over someone who can't. This created a frenzy of people seeking out specifically manufacture-error controllers with this "defect" and controllers selling for exorbitant amounts

At some point someone decided that this is fucking retarded and created a mod called Universal Controller Fix(UFC) which makes all controllers behave like they have that defect, and that opened people to the idea of mods

>>734076818
What the fuck is this retard saying?

>>734076458
>wouldn't you need a hacked console to run mods
That's yet another layer of controversy to the whole mod debacle, because only old Switches have the hardware vulnerability that allows them to be modded with soldering a mod chip to the motherboard. When I say old, I mean from around 2017-2018.

In other words, anyone with a Switch newer than 2017 either needs to learn how to solder or send their Switch off to a modder to mod it, which will likely cost money. There's two issues with this. One is that it's illegal in Japan >>734076101. Two is that the cost is an additional barrier to entry for competitive play, and you're an objective disadvantage if you don't mod your Switch if you live outside of Japan.
>around $250-300 for a standard Switch 1 model
>$60 for Ultimate, which never goes on sale
>$60 for Ultimate's pay-to-win DLC, which also never goes on sale
>$50-100 for a third party to mod your Switch, not including shipping costs
The cherry on top of this stupid sundae is that anyone who only has a Switch 2 is also fucked.

>>734076871
Interesting, but I doubt that Nintendo is going to dispatch ninjas to the US to check individual consumers' Switches. It's more likely that the Japanese will self-report and Nintendo will go after the people distributing the mod on GitHub, Discord, etc. overseas.

>>734076939
Really? They do explain why Ultimate 'legal' map still stuck on the same 5 roulette that were inherited from its previous games?

>>734076996
>a conversion mod was more popular than its base game at one point before nintendo ate it alive

I assume you have an evidence to back this up?

>>734076818
>Why does westoid nigger use a mods in the first place?
we've got a certified tribal on our hands

>>734075640
>Japs do it for the love of it
>Americans don't do anything unless there's money involved

>>734074197
okay but how would that put them at a disadvantage when playing in a real tournament where those delays would be present?

wouldn't the players using the mod end up being fucked up because they're used to lower input delay? while those that practiced with it would know what to expect and be used to it?

>>734077156
How do you know the word "inherited" but fuck up basic articles?

>>734077303
tl;dr
>unmodded online is 10 frames of delay with lag
>offline is 6 frames of delay
>both mods can reduce input delay to a combined minimum of 5 frames, but one is customizable so you can actually make online have 6 frames of delay
In other words, it's the same as playing offline, but with the occasional lag spike

>>734074324
japs have large cocks, they ain't gooks

>practice with delay mod
>fuck up in tournament because all the timings are off
What's the advantage being gained, exactly?

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>>734077029
And now we're back to square one with shit like Phob motherboards and Z jump

>>734074559
Nintendo will ban the mods and increase the delay by 10 more frames.

>>734077578
>>734077428
You can make it identical to offline. In fact, that's what most Western players are saying about the mod, is that it "feels just like offline".

>>734077578
>>734077303
...you do realize that real tournament are in person right? Using a single console with both controller connected...

>>734077384
Like how I know you're a person with no substance, lack of critical thinking with the way you instead of counter-arguing my points, you attack my grammar.

>>734077707
I'm merely curious. I truly don't care about any of this. My exposure to smash is occasionally playing slippi using my keyboard.

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>>734077156
>I assume you have an evidence to back this up?
When the fuck were you born? Yesterday?

>>734077707
>>734077676
People TRAVEL to play Tr4sh 2? That's sad, but I understand now.
Based westerners the Japanese can eat shit and hopefully move on to better games

>>734077449
I religiously consume JAV and I've never seen a large Japanese cock

>>734077949
The whole Ultimate competitive scene is one giant exercise in Stockholm syndrome. They live in complete denial of the fact that the game is shit for competitive play, even though it's something that their own top players will acknowledge when they get pissed off. For example here's an "honest" Palutena player crashing out over G&W after a major yesterday: https://x.com/LouieMoney98/status/2027910558301716563

All this is to say that they'll reach out for any crumb of competitive integrity like they're drowning and it's a rope. Westerners are just as addicted to the nu-Smash humiliation ritual as the Japanese are.

>>734074197
how about they shift their complaints towards nintendo not hiring that man? get that mod developer a job interview with daddy sakurai, ad everyone will be happy.

>>734078009
How would you tell? It's just two mosaics mashing into each other

>>734077156
>Really? They do explain why Ultimate 'legal' map still stuck on the same 5 roulette that were inherited from its previous games?
actually, that's fore entirely different (and stupid) reasons:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f6uzByXwwI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEPn8Jj282A

>>734078254
Judge status?

>>734074197
Wtf? Smash ultimates ranked and casual online is region locked.

I live in the EU and cannot play with randoms on ranked because the game regionlocks EU players to EU players.

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For anyone who's actually curious about seeing the mods in action, I guess Hbox's global online tournament thing is starting in a few minutes
https://www.twitch.tv/hungrybox
>Japan vs. Mexico
Normally this would be completely fucking unplayable

I assume that this is just going to result in the mod getting banned sooner rather than later

>>734078009
>>734078310
yeah imagine posing as someone who watches JAV

>>734074497
Why do retarded westerners think that mods that make the game easier to play isn't cheating?

>>734074197
THEY CAN TRAIN BETTER THAN US, IT'S SO UNFAIR

>>734076281
but this also means that the mod fucks over anyone who doesn't have it
>be me, little timmy with 15 million GSP
>get on elite smash, the pinnacle of skill in Ultimate
>don't have the mod
>my opponent just seems to react to everything slightly faster than i do
>stuff i'm normally able to do on online doesn't work as well against this guy
>turns out he has the mod
only one person needs the mod for it to work. i could procure a paper clip, install it on my 2017 switch right now, and immediately get online and make people's lives fucking miserable with annoying ass gimmick characters with a 5 frame advantage.

>>734078550
It doesn't you moron

>>734078758
>>don't have the mod
>>my opponent just seems to react to everything slightly faster than i do
the mod doesn't work if both players don't have it, IIRC

>>734078906
it does, which is what's fucked up about it. at least that's the case for the new mod. it's led to a lot of people joking around going
>delay mod? delay mod?
any time someone they're watching loses to someone online. there is also a way to tell if someone is using the mod, which is a slightly delay (online like a frame or two) in how the victory animations play.

>>734074414
Thread would be dead on arrival otherwise, prease undastanderu

>>734078550
Why do retarded thirdies feel like their opinions should be noted, and simply repeat the question asked, but some words rearranged as a "gotcha"?

>Japanese corporate bootlickers in the red corner
Vs.
>80 IQ Western pedophile cheaters in the red corner
with the Big N waiting in the wings to walk about and suplex the pedophiles through a table just when it looks like the West has won

This is going to be a clown show when the shit inevitably hits the fan

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>>734074197
Smash is so weird as someone who only plays fighting games

>>734078906
It does.

>>734074197
I'm not exactly pro-delay mod just due to how Switch modding works, but the Japanese arguments are retarded when they historically have benefitted from being way closer together than America and thus get better offline practice more regularly. Dumb argument, and just as stupid as saying that not having access to training pack mod means you have no chance.

>>734079891
>functions
>characters
jej

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The dev sounds like such a faggot that I hope nintendo just puts their foot down and kill it

Japanese players didn't care when they got fighting games 2 years before the west but still went to western tournaments to compete.

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>>734074324
That's a Korean thing. For Japanese, it'd be more like this.

>>734079891
>functions
You what

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Japan carries the game and doesnt whine like a battered housewife every day.

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>>734074197
>>734074774
No wonder I was so miserable playing Smash Bros when I tried it out. It felt slow as molasses and it's like every action I wanted to do came out much later. Christ.

>>734081340
>>734080204
The guy made up the definitions himself by the way not even the fgc ones are correct

>>734074774
>10 frame delay by default
What the fuck

rape tourneyfags

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>>734074774
>10 frames
what? say sike right now

>>734081443
Damn that's a lot of nips

>>734074774
So this is why the game felt like shit to play holy
Fuck Nintendo fuck sakurai fuck fuck fuck

>>734082290
Tourneyfags are the only ones who actually care about Smash.
Meanwhile rosterfags are begging for a Shitch 2 Edition that they won't even buy.

>>734082809
>>734081924
And it has a god-awful buffering system. The game would play completely differently if it were 1-2 frames offline. But it isn't. There's a lot of unreactable bullshit in game due to that.

>>734082809
There's nothing to sike about, this is well-documented stuff

>>734074197
>pe*ple still play smash bros
lmfao.

>>734074197
Japanese people don't use mods at all.

>>734083471
Which is the problem, because they refuse to use the mod, but want to stop players outside of Japan from using it because it is DISHONORABRU and disrespectful to Nintendo. It's basically just a matter of time until they get butthurt enough to start reporting people to Nintendo.

>>734074774
>>734083272
SFV having 8 frames of input delay was considered unplayable by the entire FGC.

>>734074437
>>uncensored porn
goycattle thing to be proud of

The mod does seem to give people an actual advantage in competition, which is why it's going to become a problem, fast. Riddles retired from Ultimate to compete in SF6, in which he's now one of the best Terry players in the world. He's also beaten Punk multiple times. He un-retired, entered a few tournaments and either DQ'd or got mediocre results, but spent a week practicing with the mod and ended up winning a tournament with a win over a top 10 player who mains Steve.

Meanwhile, other players who took months-long breaks from the game like Tweek, Light, and Sparg0 are struggling to put up consistent results and are pretty open about how hard it is to get good practice with the game's shit tier online.

It's going to get ugly if NA players start beating Japan consistently.

>>734074437
I'd gladly give up cheese for public transportation that doesn't make me question my faith in humanity

>>734076281
So basically the entire argument is that they can practice remotely at offline levels of input delay, and that's a problem?

>>734083943
Not to mention it was so relentlessly mocked that Skullgirls even had an easter egg launch option to enable that level of delay

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>>734083451
>>pe*ple still play smash bros
>lmfao.

>>734083471
Which is something that really surprised me back in the day. I guess with the few prominent SMB and SMW releases they had, I thought they'd be more into it, but once you actually get really into the scene, the japanese make up such a small number of romhackers and modders. It's also just so strange given that otakus are willing to get into fan works with doujins, but actually modifying a release is going too far.

>>734074486
>1k
wtf what a cheapass. Is smelee really this dead

>>734084921
Pedobox is a smart jew. That's why he is the richest Smash player.

>>734084460
It's basically two different problems that the community can't see eye-to-eye on because of cultural differences
>Japan
It's pissing off the Japanese because unofficial modding isn't considered ethical in Japan, especially when it involves a respected Japanese corporation like Nintendo. They think that it damages the integrity of competitive Smash if players feel compelled to "cheat" with an unofficial mod, especially one that provides an actual competitive advantage (more so online than offline, although offline practice online IS an offline advantage). They think it isn't fair to other players who can't or won't install the mod. You know, them.
>the West
In contrast, the West feels like Japan already has a significant competitive advantage because they have many more opportunities to play and practice offline. The is half-true, and evidenced by the fact that Japan represents over 50% of the top 100. It isn't that the Japanese are inherently better at Ultimate because of their thousand-fold DNA, they just get many more opportunities to play in person because they have huge, weekly tournaments that are a $10-50 train ride away, as opposed to the Gary, Indiana local where the top player is dog shit. The West feels like they're finally allowed to play at Japan's level, and Japan wants to take that opportunity from them.

>>734084285
Sour grapes thing to pretend not to care about

>>734085265
porn should be illegal as it is degenerate jewish garbage

>>734084881
They are incredibly pro porn and anti-censorship except they are forced to put mosaics/black bars over all their porn. It can't be helped...

>>734085312
>his dick is so fucking broken he blames the jews for it
Lmao

>>734085712
>he can't comprehend actually having sex with people or just using your imagination like a normal person
not really your fault. the jews conditioned you to believe porn is normal. breaking free isn't always easy

>>734085863
>anon is in a 4chan thread about social media drama over smash bros mods in competitive play and trying to imply he gets laid
You don't want to ban porn because LE JEWS. You want to ban it because you're a miserable control freak and are just using recent trendy political talking points to try giving yourself relevance and legitimacy.

Man, shit was so much simpler in the Project M days. That was a scene that was nice and drama free (besides the externalities of its shutdown).

>>734086286
i dont WANT to do anything, im saying it should be banned because it's degenerate and it is. this doesn't mean im going to start protesting porn or whatever, it's just a belief i have

>>734074774
How do people play this? There are games from decades ago that have already been updated with rollback.

>Americans nuke a Nintendo-endorsed tournament circuit out of sheer retardation, burning Nintendo for offering an olive branch for the first time in years
>proceed to start advertising a cheater mod that affects casual players as much as it does competitive players
How short is the average Smashfag's memory? Can they not look behind them and see the smoldering crater of Project M? Panda Cup? Frozen Stadium?

They're playing with fire and their only plan is, "Well, they can't ban ALL of us if we all install the mod!"

>>734086830
How did they nuke a Nintendo tournament?

>>734086553
Fervent brand loyalty is basically the only reason. It doesn't matter how mediocre the games are for competitive play or how many times Nintendo spits on them, Smashfags will keep crawling back because X brand can fight Y brand. OMG, I can play Cloud?!

>>734074426
>Why would you allow one side to have a competitive advantage?
Japan already naturally has the advantage when training with (unmodded) online though. The average ping between two Japanese players is like 200ms less than average in Europe or America because those matchmake across the entire continent, or even across the ocean

>>734086882
Just look up Panda Cup
tl;dr is that VGbootcamp sabotaged a collaboration between Panda Global and Nintendo, called Smash World Tour. Everyone believed VGBC's lies and the negative PR caused Nintendo to pull out and Panda to collapse as an organization.

>>734087071
The difference is that Japan's advantage comes from their superior Nipponese infrastructure and geography, whereas Americans are using a cheater mod that they're not allowed to use.

>>734086830
Oh don't pretend you give a shit about the casual experience. You people have been shrugging your shoulders for years about how gameplay doesn't matter for Smash.

>>734074713
Entered the thread to post this

How do I use this in yuzu/eden?

>>734086830
Smash autists desperately need to reverse engineer Melee and recomp it with legally distinct characters already.

>>734087454
You're barking up the wrong tree, I'm not a rosterfag. I would install the mod in a heartbeat if I still played Ultimate, but I have no interest in doing so because the gameplay is simply shit no matter how few frames of delay or buffer it has. I play platform fighters for the gameplay, so I just play 64 Remix and Rivals of Aether.

>>734088592
idk, but it is possible

>>734085863
This, ban porn and encourage people to have sex, of course while providing easy access to contraceptives and sexual health services.

*Mods Lugi's fireball to a flat 20% on hit*
The Yamato gon do?

this is 100% going to blow up in smashfags' faces, I just dont know exactly how

>>734085863
go back to nepal

>>734088728
People care about the characters belonging to nintendo more than the gameplay.

See slap city.

>>734074437
i would rather have censored japanese porn than uncensored kike slop

>>734074197
What the fuck is the deal with westerners and modding, hacking and piracy? I'm so glad the switch 2 is unhackable and will defeat all of this shit. I hope smash releases a nintendo switch 2 edition that only matches you against other switch 2 players that are guaranteed not to be modded.

>>734088728
They're already doing this, and the project doesn't have a single piece of evidence that it has progressed. Even if it manifested out of thin air this very minute, Melee players simply wouldn't play it because it isn't Melee, and nu-Smash players wouldn't play it because it's lacking the real reason they play Smash: the roster of recognizable characters. And what's more, any real attempt to capitalize on Smash's characters or legacy would end up tarnishing the project and make it look like a cheap knock-off, which is exactly what happened to Icons.

What you're suggesting is unrealistic on every level.

>>734074497
so what does modifications mean?

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>all of a sudden, /v/tards think everything is FOSS including proprietary code(vidya games)
thanks cool and all but your're still a poorfag nigger

>>734074197
Link to the mod?
This was one my biggest issues with ultimate

>>734091424
Mods should be allowed

>>734080278
What a fucking self-righteous faggot. I hope he gets btfo

>>734091172
Video games

>>734087165
Slightly longer run down? What did panda lie about?
Sounds like they deserved to collapse

>>734077449
If it was the case then their women wouldn't be such massive whores

Link to the mod for anyone interested
https://github.com/blu-dev/ssbu-less-lag/releases/tag/v1.0.0

>>734093304
>On November 29, 2022, less than two weeks before the 2022 Smash World Championships, SWT organizers announced the abrupt cancellation of both the 2022 Championships and the 2023 Smash World Tour, claiming to have been forced to shut down by Super Smash Bros. publisher Nintendo. As part of their statement, they also accused Alan Bunney, the CEO and owner of Panda, another esports organization, of severe misconduct against the community, including efforts to sabotage the Smash World Tour in favor of the Panda Cup, a competing circuit organized by Panda which, unlike the SWT, was officially licensed by Nintendo. The announcement caused a major controversy in the competitive Super Smash Bros. community, and resulted in near-universal condemnation against both Nintendo, which denied some of the accusations and did not address the others, and Panda, which denied all accusations safe from one occurrence of misconduct from Bunney. Following further backslash, which saw a wave of resignations from Panda employees and many top players deciding to boycott the upcoming Panda Cup Finale, Panda announced the resignation of Bunney as CEO (but not owner) and the postponement of the Panda Cup Finale.

TLDR: Nintendo decided to officially back panda exclusively, the owner of which abused the shit out of that fact to fuck over everyone else until he too, got fucked over

>>734093304
Panda did nothing wrong, the reality was that VGBC already had a monopoly on streaming many tournament series (which includes things like restreaming fees, if you're a content creator who wants to restream a tournament), and they felt threatened by the "official" Smash circuit not involving them. They made a bunch of dirty laundry that was mostly misunderstandings public. By the time that Panda tried to clear the air, the damage had been done and people acted on incomplete information.

>>734093672
Reported to Nintendo of America :D

>>734093891
>>734093820
Who do I believe

>>734074197
Most fighters spend a good year or two in japan arcades before it every reaches western hands.

They are just pissed the shoe is on the other foot this one time

>>734092741
cool, go mod a switch 2 game nigga

>>734074197
I know pretending 'tendo will rape your grandson in the ass as reperations for you pirating a game is the meme but I don't see them giving a shit about it when it's not something used in the tourneys themselves.

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>>734091854
CommGNUism will win

>>734093991
Nintendo directly told SWT to fuck off for not having a license to stream their product, the other guy is just making shit up.

>>734089751
>contraceptives
If you mean forced sterilization for undesirables and dwath penalty for any desirable couples doing anything to lower the chance of conception, sure.

How do you mod a console game? You need a modded Switch?

>>734094254
Why didn't they just apply for a license?

The whole controversy really just seems like
>Party A (Panda) actually worked with Nintendo to develop an officially licensed tournament series, trying to reunite the competitive Smash community and its abusive, Japanese father in a mutually beneficial way
>Party B (VGBC) felt entitled to their own soft monopoly on competitive Smash tournaments, which they developed during Nintendo's absence, and resented being shut out of SWT / licensed tournaments

>>734094504
So when are you getting sterilized?

>>734094731
Why do you pretend like there's only two parties involved instead of the fact that the entire community outside of Panda got fucked over by Nintendo deciding to exclusively license them and aggressively try to shut down everyone else?

>>734094968
Was Nintendo actually shutting down unlicensed tournaments, or merely those that were part of an alternate, competing circuit

>westerners want fair competition
>japs screech and cry because they no longer have special treatment because of their living situation between themselves
Good fuck them

>>734085098
Seems like the solution to this problem is Nintendo making this mod official and introduce it in a patch.

>>734095374
Westerners are irrelevant in Ultimate. Case in point, there was a 1 day major yesterday in somewhere named fucking Normal, Illinois, and grand finals was Jap vs. Jap. Because of the way that Ultimate's tournament and ranking system operate, tournaments aren't considered majors based on their legacy, but by how many high-ranking attendees there are. The Japanese are so high in the rankings that they regularly travel to the US for anything bigger than a local because 2 or 3 of them is enough to snowballi into a tournament that actually matters for ranking. This then causes more Western players to enter because they can't afford to miss a tournament that will affect their rank.

The Japanese then just farm the Westerners for even more rank.

>>734095143
Nintendo actively gave money to Smash Bros. tournaments. Those same tournaments wanted to play a modded version on an emulator. Nintendo left and found someone else who won't do that.

>>734095143
Yes, this is the mail they send to SWT.
>It is Nintendo’s expectation that an approved license be secured in order to operate any commercial activity featuring Nintendo IP. It is also expected to secure such a license well in advance of any public announcement. After further review, we’ve found that the Smash World Tour has not met these expectations around health & safety guidelines and has not adhered to our internal partner guidelines. Nintendo will not be able to grant a license for the Smash World Tour Championship 2022 or any Smash World Tour activity in 2023.”

That is a pretty direct treat at letting them host a tournament by straight up telling them they need a license to host it and that they straight up refuse to give them said license.

>>734074197
>Getting this assmad about people NOT wanting a vibe coded shitty game
Spiritually Indian saars

>Ultimate throw off the yoke of wi-fi Sonic players
>immediately start cheering for cancer auto-turnaround characters in Hbox's modded tournament
OMG KAZUYA SO HYPE

>>734080415
When was the last time this was the case?

ONLY POORFAG THIRD WORLD SHARTOIDS USE MODS
MUTTS!!!! CHEATERS!!!!!!!!

>>734094114
I feel like they'd give more of a shit because it isn't contained by tournaments. Because the mod works whether the other player has it or not, it means that casual players who primarily play online are being unfairly affected by its existence. A lot of competitive players do play online in their spare time, whether it's for stream content or shit on online players for fun. Casual players being matched with "cheaters" who already have a competitive advantage over them is exactly the kind of thing that Nintendo would take notice of.

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>>734098491
that's a man

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Why are they "not allowed to use" the mod?
Does modding bring shame upon their family for breaking the Bushido code or something?
Just use it, don't talk about it and be happy that some tranny finally made your game playable.

>jahzzo finally gets a good placement at a tournament full of top players after bad bracket after bad bracket
>it's the tournament that's potentially going to be remembered for causing a war between japan and the US
lmao

>>734094410
The entire camera crew for this tournament were all goth trannies. There was like 3 or 4 of them. I was there. Kinda strange because there's a lot of children at these events

>>734099605
the hulking quarterback falcon tranny was allowed to play in its underwear at genesis x3

>>734099073
there's too many problems to list
>only some switches have the hardware exploit that makes them moddable (specifically old switches from 8-9 years ago)
>new switches require that a mod chip be soldered to the motherboard, which smash players are too retarded to do
meaning that they'd need to pay someone to do it, but
>paying someone to mod your switch in japan would be illegal
>operating a service to mod players' switches in japan would also be illegal
>switch 2s cannot be modded
>the japanese will die defending the honor of their corporations, and are vehemently anti-mod
>coincidentally, the japanese represent more than half of the top 100 >>734075640
>the mod fucks over casual players
>the mod fucks over anyone who won't or can't mod their switch for reasons too varied to list here
>the japanese already banned one of their own for using a mod that reduced online delay
imagine if the top 4 players of any game came out and said, "we condemn this thing that gives specific players an unfair advantage, refuse to use it, and are advocating for a full ban." it's going to have an impact.

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>>734098889
I know.

>>734099848
He could show up in a micro bikini and they'd still let him compete. He's a tranny AND a nigger. He gets double the privilege/protection

>>734099907
based

>>734099073
neofeudalism + shinto = corporation worship

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>>734078479
>this mod is going to SAVE Ultimate!
>look at bracket
>ryu
>game & watch
>hero based, but bullshit
>kazuya
>kazuya / terry
>samus
>aegis
>diddy
>palutena
>palutena
Wait a mintue... this shit still sucks

>>734086553
Because it's playable and people abuse the buffer system for other specific character and general techs

>>734100408
Every ult viable character is lame. There is nothing that can be done about it

>>734100574
If we can mod the online, we can mod the gameplay

>Japs can abuse everything under the sun (See broken characters. roll cancelling, taking advantage of having access to arcades which are fucking dead as shit everywhere else)
>One (1) mod that you need a modded switch for anyway
>They screech and moan
Fuck off gooks

>>734100982
its a japanese game

>>734101054
In a scene that has always been historically mostly western played. The bitching is retarded

>>734101102
im not sure thats true for ultimate

>>734083859
Mods that effect multiplayer probably shouldn't be used online at all unless there's a way to disable it when it detects your opponent doesn't have it installed.
Reminds me of when Valve got tired of everyone using autoclickers in TF2 and just made the pistol fire max speed on button hold. I can't imagine smash getting an update like that though. They seem to hate mods

>>734101102
that's not true for ultimate, and even 4 had a very active japanese scene that was represented at western tournaments. competitive ultimate is predominately japanese, or at least the best ultimate players are predominately japanese. while you could argue that the way that the top 100 is decided is retarded and artificially inflates the rankings of japanese players who are able to more consistently travel to tournaments whose rankings are ALSO inflated because of the number of japanese players with inflated rankings attending them you'd be right, the japanese regularly crash american tournaments and make them look like clowns.

kagaribi 15 has a 3,200 attendee cap that it's very likely going to hit. genesis x3, one of the biggest western smash tournament series, had fewer than 1,000 players enter ultimate, including japanese players who traveled for it.

>>734074197
reminds me of FFXIV kek
world first races where Japanese players get canceled if they use addons, meanwhile westerners "win" all the races because they can use zoom hacks and shit, and yoshipiss publicly praises them for beating the japs

>>734076458
nintendo has essentially undefeatable anti-piracy measures for playing online, but little in the way of anti-modding measures, which are easily defeated. they've added anti-cheat to some of their games like splatoon 3, but smash either has no anti-cheat or this doesn't trigger it.

>>734101508
790 entrants for GX3 Ultimate vs 2138 registered entrants right now for the upcoming Kagaribi in May
Western hegemony is a thing of the past that only applies to Melee and that people desperately cling into because they have yet to find how to shift and adapt the narrative and stories to a worldwide scene.

>>734100982
>we can't create demand for an arcade
>therefore hacks are ok!
I bet you also cry about how Chinese and Russian players all use hacks in shooters and how "white" players won't use hacks (besides for Smash Bros obviously, but that's ok because Japanese players have arcades or something).

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>>734101804
>they have yet to find how to shift and adapt the narrative and stories to a worldwide scene
This makes me sort of understand where Western players are coming from. Their scene is literally dying: BTS is dead, multiple tournaments series are dead, multiple esports organizations are dead. The competitive meta for Ultimate is awful and top players openly despise the game. Tournaments basically became humiliation rituals for the West when top Japanese players realized that they could fly to America and farm not only US players, but US prize pools, offsetting the cost of travel.

The West has basically been a joke for years, but especially since Kagaribi 13. They miraculously get a mod that gives them an opportunity to potentially take control of the narrative of competitive Ultimate, and the Japanese immediately try to take it away.

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You want what game doesn't have shit online, unbearable input lag, terrible neutral game, and top tiers that break the game or put you to sleep? It's COMBO DEVILS AND YOU CAN BACK THE PROJECT RIGHT NOW ON KICKSTARTER TO RECEIVE THE DIGITAL GAME ON RELEASE AND A CLOSED BETA KEY THAT'LL START IN RELATIVELY 2 WEEKS FROM NOW. Like you guys don't have to live like this brothas.

>>734100787
We already know we can mod the gameplay, HDR exists. A mod that fixes the characters isn't going to be tournament legal because Nintendo would immediately shut it down

>>734102358
Smash players won't even play furry Project M, Combo Devils has no hope. It's too different from either Melee or Ultimate for them, and >>734090956

>>734102358
>the character is a literal 90s millennial guy that carries a skateboard and a cartridge that he blows into as a victory screen just liek da good ol days amirite guys xDD
god i hate millennials.

>>734102663
what the fuck do you people actually want that isn't just scantily clad massive tits and asses

>>734102358
Funny how you snoys kept shilling Rivals 2 all for it to not reach the mainstream, now you all moved on to shilling this game and the same thing will happen.

>>734102723
people used to study tf2 characters in game development school or wahtever you would call that. study characters that are well loved (not just tf2 that was just an example). why are popular characters... popular? because they have interesting personalities and whatever other reasons there are. study successful, well loved characters and use that data to create your own characters. do this instead of whatever combo devils is doing. do this and i promise you will actually accomplish something with your game.

>>734102235
The ship was already arguably sailing since the death of 2GG. It's hard to root for soulless, mediocre tournament series. There's a plethora of factors not helping the West, including prize pool/making a living turning on their head. It's not Melee days anymore, becoming a content creator and coasting off honeymoon phase hype around you is probably something Ult's western top players wish for more than being #1, and the only ones who cant really go for that are the ones playing lame characters. It's a vicious circle.

>>734094254
>>734093991
Anon, Nintendo refused to take blame for the SWT shutdown. And VGCBootcamp never released the emails regarding licensing despite accusing Nintendo of being the one to shut them down. In addition, other big name tournaments were planned streamed no problem.

>>734102723
>>734102941
tf2 and soulcalibur are the only multiplayer games i can think of that a) made characters from scratch, b) had immediate appeal based on those characters, and c) successfully built recognition and loyalty until people would buy sequels or spinoffs just on those two strengths. they also happen to be (originally) fairly grounded & cohesive period settings

>>734102358
no waifus no play

>>734094684
Yes, and as this anon explained >>734077123 , it becomes a huge barrier of entry because only year 1-2 Switch can be modded without soldering, let alone the fact that modding is seen in a very bad light in Japan. tl;dr: Smashfags just can't stop being fucking pests and making things harder for everyone.

>>734104432
>grrr, how dare people make the game actually playable

>>734105060
interesting counterpoint

>>734102898
Not that anon but isn't Rivals 2 the most successful Smash clone out there? It's a subgenre of a niche genre, second place (if you lump the Smash series together as one game and ignore that Melee and Ultimate are very different scenes) isn't bad at all

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>>734103512
Combo Devils had quite a lot of waifus. There's Ikani (Aztec girl), Blaire (Ginger swordie), Mimi (Cat), Maggie (Puppetmaster), and there's one more who's greyed in the image Maggie is in that I don't know the name of.

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>>734074559
>10 frames delay pre latency
>at least another 5 because lol delay netcode
do smash faggots seriously unironically play with 15 frames of input delay? is smash such a baby game that that seriously doesn't matter? like fighting games become unplayable at anything above 6-7

>>734107260
yes, for some reason smashies put up with completely unreasonable amounts of lag just to play online. it's been utter dumpster quality ever since it was introduced in brawl, but people just keep eating it up.
somehow this isn't a fanboy exclusive phenomenon, i know multiple people who play other fighting games and other platforms who know what it SHOULD be like, but tolerate it anyways. smash just projects some kind of localized mental illness field.

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>>734106484
No anon, I'm not going to buy a game, much less a fighting game, for furries or a damned Velma.

>>734074197
Are the Japanese just destined to be corporate slaves until their birthrate hits zero?

>>734074197
I thought Smash was an entirely Western scene like Mortal Kombat

>>734074197
The Japanese have had an inherent advantage over pretty much the entirety of the Western world when it comes to the relationship between their location and latency.

>>734107959
Melee is
Ultimate is not

>>734075045
>it's not because they're better at the game or better at Ultimate's competitive meta (which is centralized around touch-of-death combos, camping, and timeouts), but because they have many more opportunities to play offline against good players.
Uh, doesn't have more chances to play offline with good players improve your fucking skills?

>Now the shoe's on the other foot, and Japanese players are crying foul.
I mean playing with a significantly different game version isn't exactly a mirror.

>>734077230
>do it for love of the game
>here's a fix that helps input delay
>FUCK YOU GAIJIN, NINTENDOOOOO!
mhm... sure

>>734076818
>I thought that the smash scene is filled with the most vile, puritans ftg in gaming scene.

Not quite. They're complete assholes, but they're not purists. They, as in the big players and TOs decide what exploits they allow. This is not neccessarily a bad thing.

>>734108202
It would be more accurate to say
>They're not inherently better at the game
They're definitely better at it because it's comparatively easier for them to get regular, higher quality practice. All that's changed is that Americans can now practice of that quality without having to spend hundreds of dollars to travel. Japan had an advantage for years, now it's time for America to have an advantage.

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One the one hand I think it is a cheat. On the other hand reporting them to Nintendo to get permabanned is fucking petty

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>>734107260
It's why I'm baffled to this day that ppl can still tolerate this shit for money. Ultimate genuinely feels like fucking mud to play and I'm disappointed it doesn't surpass Smash 4 in terms of it's gameplay and online features. It's hilarious how a slower game is far more responsive and enjoyable to play than it's successor.
>>734107736
Your loss. I'll enjoy more of my breastmogger Blaire in peace.

>>734081621
Thia. Every game after melee felt like shit to play and i bounced off them. Sakurai is a hack

>>734074197
It's their fault for sucking Nintendo's cock. I don't care.

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>>734074197
>Be Japanese
>Have incredible public transport
How could we ever solve this pu-robu-lem??
Fucking dork ass neets

>>734074197
does google translate or whatever auto translates twitter actually use ebonics like "hit up"? Thats so bizarre.

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i read the whole thread and what i got out of it is that i'm really glad i don't play smash

>>734108872
twitter uses grok now so translations are more coherent but make leaps of fagged out vernacular

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>funniest outcome
Westerners continue to proudly advertise the mod until it inevitably attracts the attention of Nintendo, leading to the GitHub repository being pulled in response to a lawsuit. The mod continues to be distributed discretely from player to player, with anyone who uses it in an online tournament being banned. Westerners continue to use the mod to practice in arenas, and as they catch up to top Japanese players, Japan continues to seethe.

>funny outcome
Nothing happens, and Japan continues to seethe.

>boring outcome
Nothing happens, and Japanese players protest the existence of the mod by boycotting Western tournaments, which they don't need to maintain their ranks. The West and Japan become completely separate competitive scenes.

>all outcomes
Everyone continues to seethe because they're playing fucking competitive Ultimate and the game sucks.

japans biggest advantage for local play is (presumably) 99% less trannies

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>>734074774
bro the game needs lower input delay, over 100ms is fucking terrible

>>734074774
Smashfags act like their online is fine too, but I guess they wouldn't know what a properly functioning game looks like to begin with.

>>734074774
The recent HDR update reduced the offline input delay as well and it actually feels like a competent platform fighter now. Now all I need is friends to play it with...

>>734074324
Not sure if this is mockingly referencing a tiny violin playing or is referring to the unusually small penises of asiatic peoples.

>>734107260
Yes. As >>734107684 so articulately put it, Smash makes people stupid, much like Pokemon makes people stupid. Nintendo's IPs emit some sort of cursed force that corrupts the minds of anyone affected by their pull. Look at what's happening with Pokemon at the moment:
>Game Freak finally, finally develops a Pokemon game with the graphical fidelity of a decade-old WiiU game
>Pokemon fans are declaring Game Freak is so back, Pokemon is saved, etc.
>It'll still be a Pokemon game
It'll be the exact same with Smash 6:
>Nintendo finally develops a Smash game with half-decent netcode
>Smash fans shed tears of joy and make ritual sacrifices to Sakurai
>It'll likely still have incredibly high input delay and input buffer, slow, floaty gameplay, no combos, bad balance, and a bad competitive meta
They're fanatics. Their emotional attachment to the brand overrides all rational thought.

t. has played every Smash game for a significant number of hours, PM, P+, Remix, Slap City, NASB, RoA, the works

>>734109142
The next game will probably have like 1 less frame of input delay, but will end up feeling just as bad because of the Switch 2's response time / native delay

>>734108592
>obnoxious airdash cancelling with health bars for knockback
It really is RushRev 2

>>734109131
Japanese Smash actually has trannies, nowhere is safe. What's worse is that their voices are much more grating and the Japanese style of commentary is basically just yelling over the entire match, so it's a bad combination.

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>>734108592
cool cool.

>>734109398
This is the problem with HDR. I've been wanting to try it for a while, but I can't be bothered to either mod my Switch or figure out how to install it on an emulator. If someone like me who's relatively tech-literate and interested in the mod isn't going to install the mod, what are the odds that I can get anyone else to install it so we can play?

I had a hard enough time getting my friends to install and play Remix.

>>734109572
>Mega Man cheeses Diddy Kong with one of the most fucking obnoxious moves in the game (leaf shield)
What's the point of this WebM?

>>734109572
The next 5 sets after this and the 5 sets shown before this were probably some lame shit like min min vs steve. But one kinda sorta interesting set was shown, so it balances out I guess

>>734109527
Don't people like RushRev?

>>734109572
>pronouns on screen
why did every event simultaneously push this and no one pushed back?

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>>734109478
Anon, 3/4ths of the Melee cast cannot compete in the meta simply because of edgehogging combined with poor recoveries meaning once they get knocked off, they die.

>>734109653
to show off funny Rockman

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>>734109726
Anon, here is a pic of an "all female tourney". The internet overlords have made an exceptionally strong nest in the SSB community for quite some time.

>>734074197
Why aren't they allowed to use it?
>>734074774
Why the FUCK would Nintendo intentionally pad the game with compounding non ping input delay? Retards.

>>734109726
>and no one pushed back?
Because you'll get called a chud, which matters because a small but vocal group of players have successfully set a precedent that you can get banned from competition based on your politics. If you get called transphobic it can literally end your career by removing your ability to play in tournaments. There's no oversight for any of this

>>734109679
>check top 8 results
>11 sets total
>only 1 set that didn't include Steve, Snake, Mega Man, or G&W
>it was Palutena vs. Diddy
You're not wrong

It's interesting that Palutena was once considered the most boring, auto-pilot character in Ultimate, yet is now perceived as hype because she's fighting the most obnoxious characters in the history of competitive Smash. Diddy to a lesser extent, both in the sense that he's less boring and that he's still seen as the scum of the earth that he has been since Brawl.

>>734074774
its weird to me gow nobody is calling bullshit on the "it sounds insignificant" part.
no it fucking doesnt!

>>734109793
>brings up Melee unbidden
Ultimate is a terrible competitive game regardless of what your opinion of Melee is

>>734109951
The majority of people who play Smash don't think about frame data at all, so saying things like
>you have 0.08s slower reaction time
probably doesn't mean much to them. Obviously competitive players can understand how big of a difference it is.

>>734078758
It means that the players are getting fucked up the ass by Nintendo with fake lag and additional fake input lag unless they have the mod. The mod is just reducing the ass fuck yet the proud raped are calling the modders the rapists, not Nintendo.

>>734110137
Nintendo wouldn't ass rape me...

>>734110190
BEND OVER. WE THANK YOU. MARIO THANKS YOU.

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>>734109608
Yeah, that was pretty much my experience a couple years ago when I first tried installing it with a friend. We spent hours installing emulators and save data only for it to not work. Luckily the installation process is a bit more streamlined now and the emulators have gotten better, but it's still more of a time sink compared to just downloading Dolphin and Brawl.
https://github.com/HDR-Development/HewDraw-Remix/wiki/Installing-the-Game
Here's the new guide that I followed if you want to give it a shot.

>>734109978
>>brings up Melee unbidden
Not my fault your dumbass can't take a cue that's what he's comparing the theoretical next Smash to.

>>734110221
>enter my virtual world of ass rape
>no mario
>$120 for 1 game, 11 DLC characters, and 10 frames of input delay
>no mario

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>>734109572
Omg Tweek still plays this game? I remember him being a Bowser Jr and Cloud main in Sm4sh. My god, is he already norwooding and dude doesn't even look he's over 30 yet

>>734110238
Damn, that's a sick combo

>>734110326
Buy FireRed again
We put Mario in it

>>734074774
Why are Japs crying about the mod like they can't just use it too?
Reducing inherent and net delay should work just fine for them too, right?

>>734110525
They get hung if they do hardware modding

>>734074197
>pulling each other down instead of demanding Nintendo implement the changes the mod makes into the base game to make it better
Tendies are the funniest fucking people, I swear.

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>>734109868
>Melee is full of genuine sociopaths who literally have a body count, and they did it just for laughs
>Brawl-onward is chock full of sex offenders, even the minors
>both the above are full of trannies, including in leadership positions
>Jap side is comprised of corpohumping tattletales
>western side is comprised of politically obsessed dipshits who "peaked" in their teens/early 20s, who will never accept that 2015 Tumblr and wokism are dead
>nobody plays 64
Project M being cut short was a blessing. It was the least batshit Smash scene by a wide margin in large part because of it. And also because there was a knowledge/accessibility barrier for even getting into it to begin with.

>>734110298
I don't really see the connection.
>It'll likely still have incredibly high input delay and input buffer
This has nothing to do with Melee. All fighting games are expected to have minimal input delay, and a low input buffer is typically perceived as a positive. A lot of people actually dislike Melee's lack of an input buffer.
>slow, floaty gameplay
False attribution.
>no combos
Again, false attribution. Smash 64 is a relatively floaty game and it actually has easier and much more devastating combos than Melee, including true shield break combos.
>bad balance
>a bad competitive meta
Melee's characters and competitive meta are both notoriously imbalanced, and it isn't uncommon to hear people claim that Melee is good despite its imbalances.

The original comment has nothing to do with Melee. It just lives rent-free in your head because you're defending Ultimate and Melee's mere existence is an argument against Ultimate's competitive integrity.

>>734110617
These are the same people who think it's worse for Sony players for the PS5 to sometimes be cheaper than the Switch 2 just because Sony's suits are making less money on them.

>>734110653
A not insignificant number of Project M players now play RoA2. Coincidentally, it's less retarded than any Smash scene except 64 (which is mostly boomers and South Americans). It's only controversy, if you can call it that, was that a top player hit on a tranny while drunk. Cringe? Yes, but better than
>children will be raped at this tournament
>yes, we know
>gigachad.jpg
I wish I saved the image I'm thinking of.

>>734110753
>I don't really see the connection.
it's cause ur retarded lol

>>734074324
I think that really only works on Koreans.

>>734110791
>being a corporate bootlicker is the most weeaboo thing you can do

>>734110525
>like they can't just use it too
they can't >>734076101

the only way that japan could logistically use the mod is if every japanese player learns to solder (reminder that the rank 1 is like 15 years old or something), magically acquires a mod chip that is illegal to sell or even distribute for free in Japan, modifies their consoles themselves, and never betrays the fact that they're using the mod. it'd be the world's most obvious open secret.

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>>734110653
>>both the above are full of trannies, including in leadership positions
> this trainwreck of a failed male can blacklist you from all tournaments and the community at large as head of the safety organization.

>>734110960
Don't forget
>if you criticize a certain top player (infamous for being extremely unpleasant) we will make it our life's mission, as a community, to bully you and ostracize you until you commit suicide, even if it takes literal years to do so
>and we will celebrate it, try to crash his funeral IRL, and hurl abuse at his grieving mother too
Competitive Melee essentially became the gaming community equivalent of the sharty

>>734075045
wth is up with all these mexicans

Doesn't aMSa use Slippi? Why hasn't Japan turned against him for using authorized mods?

>>734111281
It's a popular region for the game. Mexico's proximity to the US also helps populate its majors with US and Canada players.

>>734110653
PM is the only game I know that's trannier than Melee

>>734074303
The game has input delay baked into online play to make it fair so this IS literally cheating

If Sakurai goes full-on Brawl 2.0 with the next game, it might be the motivation the hacking community needs to finally crack the Switch 2

>>734074197
Jappas have always been cucked, see street fighter

>>734111281
mexicans have always been into fightans

>>734111663
The next game would be Brawl 4.0, anon.

>>734111308
amsa is the only melee player in japan

>>734111281
you see, thirty years ago snk arcade cabinets were very cheap

>>734111308
now that i think about it this whole thing explains why japs dont play melee

>>734112503
No, I'm talking about aggressive deliberate anti-competitive mechanics again like random tripping

is melee even popular in europe or australia
is it 99% an america game now

>>734112504
no he isn't. theres inngenn and like 5 more guys, but only amsa and inngenn are good enough (and have enough money) to travel to NA tournaments

>>734112707
Not really. It was never big competitively but I remember they used to have decent sized tournaments. Now I never see anything for over there