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Poorfag launchday edition
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does wow have any moments like this one that would elicit this kind of reaction from its players?
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Important question: are the trees in zulaman non binaries?
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>Hunter Narman says: Dawa! I must ask-
>Windsage Dawa says: Narman! I've brought you here to ask-
Dawa pauses for a moment in confusion and then laughs.
Narman errupts in laughter.
>Windsage Dawa says: Did we just?
>Hunter Narman says: We did. Want to get married?
>Windsage Dawa says: More than anything. I love you.
>Hunter Narman says: And I, you. More than anything
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>level as a havoc
>pull 10 mobs, kill within second and still full life
>play as a devourer once 90
>1 mob takes too long to kill
>can't aoe without any prep
I haven't done any dungeon yet but the damage output better be great
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>The story isn't that bad
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>*dodges*
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>When asked about the latest installment in the World of Warcraft expansion, avid player and top political commentator, Asmongold, said: "It's woke trash now, I feel sorry for anyone still playing it"
Sisters ..... OUR RESPONSE?
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>>559061752
It's over ...
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>>559061414
Early access gatekeeps knowledge points as well for some reason, they did it in TWW.
Full release will make knowledge point items drop, until then you can only get some through the rare treasures and fresh crafts and shit.
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>Thiernax says: Qadarin! I must ask-
>Qadarin says: Thiernax! I've brought you here to ask-
Qadarin pauses for a moment in confusion and then laughs.
Thiernax errupts in laughter.
>Qadarin says: Did we just?
>Thiernax says: We did. Want to get married?
>Qadarin says: More than anything. I love you.
>Thiernax says: And I, you. More than anything
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am i the only one who values wow most of all for it's gameplay? Yeah the story is pretty woke garbage these days but that is fine.
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>tranny fantano xiiii players the story matters in a mmo
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>>559061992
Its literally a tiny number of very loud tourists circlejerking anon. These fags dont play wow and either never have or havent for years. Its retarded stream orbiter children "trolling".
Most people who play wow play wow for the gameplay and more less ignore the narrative side of it.
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>>559061992
I wouldn't say its 'fine', its certainly no excuse for it being the lackluster quality it is. Not even referring to the woke stuff, I barely care about that, there's a plethora of other problems all over the place that make me eyeroll every few minutes.
But otherwise yes, if I weren't still enjoying myself gameplay-wise, whatever that entails with the stupid shit I get up to, then I wouldn't continue playing.
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Better actually.
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wow will never have this
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my ancestral celtic forest monke spirit is very happy here, in a way I did not expect.
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Jesus christ, I could at least be happier with these characters being idiots if player characters, with their decades of experience by now, could just punch a character to make them shut up in these talky bits so we can move along.
Like Halduron reporting about the lightbloom at the end of Harandar campaign, and Turalyon just walking in and shouting about how "Noo, Light is good!" and such.
Like, fuck, can they not have him go take two steps out of the city to see for himself before we put the dunce hat on him? These conversations are fucking brainrot.
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https://www.wowhead.com/news/honor-reset-during-midnight-early-access- pvp-currency-schedule-380554
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Someone buy me Midnight, ill give you a Japanese Blaine's Arcanine and Giovanni's Nidoking.
>tfw your moms boyfriend threw away your Sabrina's Gengar which is worth like thousands of dollars today
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uh oh…
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>>559064676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vNfhGAEOo8
watch this intro.
internalize it, the vibe, the lyrics, the motion, the aura. this is the most distilled guide to tanking in an mmo. everything you need to know about tanking is contained in this short clip.
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i'm on my way to crafting a good quality necklace :)
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>>559065251
We're all going to make it
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>>559065115
>what are they even doing?
getting less money than they would if they waiting till about 10 hours after launch tommorow
and Ive been getting those from every damned thing, I got one of those from a random treasure bag in ZA, 220 boe blue Ive got like literally 15 of em in my pckets
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What did he play and why did none of the other 4 click the fuarking ballista?
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where are these
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Are you excited? Cancelled my sub yesterday..
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>"Hey idiot, do you somehow not hear that big monster sneaking up behind you?"
At least we're sometimes doing the bare minimum as we watch characters be dumb.
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>>559066617
oh yeah?
wheres you naxx 40 man cheevo??
ya thats what i thought
retail babs are pathetic
smdh
just wait cunt!
when classic moppy ends and i have my challenge mode platinum set and corrupted ashbringer you are going to fucking seethe and suckm me off!
its over for you
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>>559067602
They were tapped out of ideas, what is it even for? Is it going to give you like high level M+ gear or something? Or will the feature just a way to give autists more ways to grind mounts and cosmetics?
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>>559066552
It's good. Now if they reduce trash mobs by 90% and make bosses hard it would be perfect. I hate pulling these huge groups of trash and then aoeing it down for a minute. Not even remotely fun or challenging.
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>>559067852
You're the one that can't read, I said they don't deserve such things. Not that I want them, dipshit. Making a wpvp set better for that content alone is shit, now go back to pressing only frostbolt in classic you dumb cuck or better yet SW:DYS
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do all human men love their vulpera wives?
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Are these boomkin talents worth taking? I'm curious if anyone in this general plays the spec and has a clearer idea on what's great. I only started playing it in TWW's final patch.
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Is anyone else having issues with this ? How do I fix, I tried without any addons
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>>559066935
>Blizzard decided to make the socket chest drop like every 30 mins to an hour in FFA area so only people using full groups get it
>Make PvP WQuests only in one area, which is this same area so it will just end up perma camped
>Servers die if you try to raid group vs raid group
>Make WPvP set bonuses and make world quests only last 8-12 hours.
>PvE 'World Events' are more timed BS that they want to see groups doing but in reality are already quite dead
Yeah this xpac is gonna suck ass.
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>>559068943
you, yes you nigga
they made the champion of azeroth a flaming homo
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>>559068904
>Blizzard decided to make the socket chest drop like every 30 mins to an hour in FFA area so only people using full groups get it
Better than making it spawn in a random zone every 5 hours.
>Make PvP WQuests only in one area, which is this same area so it will just end up perma camped
I'd rather have them spawn in just one area instead of having to look at each zone every day to find the pvp wq
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Kyveza is still active and you can kill her for the achievement/title/mog with your overpowered Midnight gear LMAOOOOO
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>>559064676
Don't listen to the retards saying tank, there's only 2 spots and the easiest role in raids so you'll never get a spot in guild or pug. Unless you play during dead hours, any pug group will already have 2 tanks, most of my pug raid on my tank alt was as dps because there's seriously never any spot.
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another bugged cheevo
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>You're still reliant on Brann RNG not fucking you over cause everything in the fight is an instakill
You're reliant on yourself. Everything is an instakill if you fuck up the mechanics, I cleared ?? on a 632 because it's doable on a tank if you just do everything perfectly every time
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>You're reliant on yourself.
I didn't realize I actually had control over Brann this whole time.
I never needed him as heals but DPS Brann was a fucking terrorist and would fuck up the portal suck mechanic every time, so I had to set him as heals just so this shit didn't happen.
>I'M GOING ALL OUT
>*drops the portal in the middle of the room and dies to it*
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Ah, I only ever had him as heals so it wasn't a problem
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Shortly after hitting 90 I completely gave up on doing mountmogcheevo shit. Everything in this xpac is bugged to hell.
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elf town
elf landmass
another elf expansion :)
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>>559070641
>american company releases a game for european time zones
Fucking ridiculous.
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>>559069246
Everything she says is soulless too. Sounds like she doesn't want to be there. Brann voice lines were peak soul. Didn't talk as much, but when he did it was gold. Valera can't even be bothered to harvest resource nodes for you. Brings her body and attitude, nothing else. Pretty accurate to be fair.
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1200 isnt even midnight
its the fucking noon
the midnight hour doesnt exist
the day always ends at the morning hour
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>>559069246
Valeera is such a downgrade, she's
>Got a worse class
>Is a worse race
>Has a worse personality
>Has a worse justification to be delving with us
>Has a worse excuse for being a tank.
>Has a worse voice
Just give me Brann back, or someone who I should actually be delving with.
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>midnight is actually the start of a new day
oh my heckin science
did we just crack the code reddit?
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>>559070784
It's nice, the stars I'm a little iffy about though haha
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okay i did it :) thanks for the tip
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Midnight status?
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>>559071026
I will try, I am a creature of the skies however
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>>559071113
I'm having fun.
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>not a single problem with the Light for decades
>suddenly light... IS BA
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>>559070950
Imagine.
>get nemesis to half hp
>scripted defeat happens
>Valera gets knocked out
>nemesis is about to finish you off, monologueing
>ironforge theme starts playing
>Brann steps through the fog gate
>bounces on one of them tiny mushrooms and drop kicks nemesis.
>tosses you a health potion
>"Get up champion, it's time tae go all out!"
>The reward for winning is getting brann back permanently.
>if you keep Valera she constantly makes insecure comments about being saved by Brann.
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>>559069492
kyveza was so fucking hard for me, shit felt impossible to track visually, random bran effects or my own spell and pet effects just overlapping at the worst moments. still had fun with it but some deaths felt kinda cheap
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>>559062191
By those comments you just don't like the game, you are just trapped feeling a rush for pressing a button with big number, you are monkeys, Lesser than negroes
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>>559071741
The main problem with them making Arator suddenly the main character and telling this particular story with him is this fucker has been around virtually since the start of WoW. He's been sitting on the sidelines doing nothing. But the implication is still that he was at least seeing and hearing all these major problems going on. Especially if he was hanging out with the Argents, which he was. He absolutely would've heard about what the Scarlets were doing with the Light.
So putting him in the spotlight and asking all these questions about his chosen profession now just makes him seem like a monumental retard and a manchild. There's a big fucking crisis happening right now, is NOW really the time to finally decide to question how people wield the Light?!
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>this is the guy voicing prince erazmin and about half of all the new male belf npcs
>perfectly capable of doing a normal voice
>goes for the annoying high-pitched cartoon character voice
what the FUCK was he thinking?
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>>559072776
Somehow doesn't dawn on him until now that his father might have some trauma from the war he was involved in.
Even if he knows a lot more about his mother than he does his father, he knows they were both in the same group together, it can pretty well be implied they'd both have their fair share of figurative demons, especially with how they had to leave their world behind.
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Zul'aman was pure uncut kino
>forest zone that looks like grizzly hills
>the common mobs are trolls, furbrogs, and murlocs
>the dungeons are a indian spirtwalk drug trip at a campfire and basicly undead troll shit
i love this zome
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>jumpscares you
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>>559072776
>nigger this is literally netflix movies explaining the plot 30 times tier bad
That's because just like Netflix users 90% of wow players can't read and have youtube open on a tab next to them, so you HAVE to tell them everything 20x over or they won't get it.
My brother literally asked me why Faol called Xal'atath a knife. No this is not a joke, hes been playing since TBC.
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>>559072542
because mark kern ands a bunch of rapists devs (like frigtree fat dad) made blood elves in TBC a big gay joke but by 2026 the devs are now leftist who now get extra pay to make their game gay so they can afford to play their 3k dolor rent for their studio apartment they share with 5 people, and also they assume if they make gay centaurs the communist revolution will happened or some shit.
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>>559074462
You should never cater to these kinds of people, media that does never actually sticks out as good in any way.
In a weird way, NOT spoonfeeding the retards makes them söyface harder when some very obvious aspect of the story that wasn't spelled out for them dawns on them.
And it opens discussion wide open for autists to fight about.
When the story-telling is insanely dumbed down and nothing is left in the dark then there's nothing to discuss other than how stupid it is, it also makes the world you're writing seem incredibly small if every aspect of it is easily discovered and anything that isn't in the immediate spotlight simply feels like it's left out in some time-pocket until it's time to use it again.
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>>559062191
I play pretty much exclusively for gameplay at this point, but there was a time where I actually did kind of enjoy the narrative side of it as well, and they fucking suck at it now. Last time I enjoyed any of the narrative was Legion.
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>>559074982
It's funny how it all crumbles.
Now even the music is dogshit.
TBC's Eversong had such iconic soundtrack and they replaced it with whatever generic dogshit this is. It just sounds like something out of dragon faggot flight.
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>>559075107
At the end of the day it's all money, for all that I disagree with Russell for his retarded political beliefs, he had a really strong sense of motif in his music that is completely lacking. All of the music in WoW now is the most generic fantasy slop you could possibly imagine conducted by the lowest bidder retard that blizz can pick up straight out of band class at Caltech.
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>Don't you just hate X in the new expansion?
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>>559075197
Never cared about Russell's politics, I automatically assume everyone from CA is a leftoid retard until proven otherwise.
His music was always good and as iconic to WoW as Samwise's and the other dudes from the Sons of the Storm art - both now replaced by the most generic slop.
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>the greater they aln
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its scary how deeply mindwashed the average blizzdrone is. literally apologizing for finding the game boring but still affirming that they will pay up their master.
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I've the itch to start WoW again.
Haven't played since Legion and before that I played a bit Cataclysm.
Once they released Classic I played Classic for like 4/5 months.
I don't want this to be a debate about Classic/Retail, as I want to hop into Retail this time.
Where do I start?
I guess I'm gonna start over fresh with a new character.
Do I jump directly into the newest expansion or can I catch up the old ones, like Shadowlands/Dragonflight?
Also I read that most of the AddOns are now incorporated into the game itself.
Are there AddOns which I definitely should get via CurseForge/etc.?
Is there something for like map completion/best route for questing, like TacO for GW2?
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>>559073137
>horde only has bloodelves, shamans and highborne left to become shamans
>alliance only has stormwind humans, all the dorf races and all the draenei races as paladins available
What went so wrong, allibros?
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>>559075673
The new levelling experience is designed to be as fucking gay as possible, just do chromie time until you hit level 70 or whatever, dragonflight story wise is the most disney the game has ever been and is widely regarded as being fucking horrid. If you need to catch up there's a new experience where you stomp around the arathi highlands for a bit that I heard is pretty good if you want to give that a shot. Addons are kind of incorporated, and most combat addons have been phased out, but the blizzard replacements for these are fucking dogshit compared to their addon counterparts, as such, I still use addons like DBM to replace the shitty blizzard timeline since it's better and still has a bit of limited functionality for shit like countdowns. Questing routes are dead seeing as you have to do the campaign questline which is very linear, everything else is optional basically.
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>>559075673
Start new charactere. Buy expansion. Use boost in said character, start in Midnight or optionally TWW if you want the story.
>can I catch up the old ones, like Shadowlands/Dragonflight?
You can but it will be much quicker if you do them past level 80 because it disables the level scaling and you're able to destroy everything.
>oh but I want to do the content
Do the new expansion content, then. Sadly this is the way the game is designed.
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>559075673
Oh, and addon-wise, you dont really need anything, but I like plumber and leatrix plus to customize some things, dialogueUI to make reading quests a bit easier (still not great) and handy notes + its subaddons for completionist stuff.
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>>559075915
With the current xpacs being a trilogy it's baffling they didn't switch the recommended leveling to TWW. Like a new player is now going to spend all their time leveling in gay dragon world then get dumbed into the middle of the worldsoul saga with no knowledge of what's going on with this angry purple elf.
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>>559075673
there is nothing of value to do other than the latest expansion, everything else is designed to make you want to buy a boost, you get one when you buy Midnight so just use that
>Are there AddOns which I definitely should get via CurseForge/etc.?
kinda, but you can just boot up the game and see how you do with the default, then patch anything with addons that you don't like
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Even more baffling considering the fact they already had to do the stat squish anyway, so it would have been the perfect opportunity to just shovel it into a starting zone. For some reason the trannies and faggots at blizzard think Dragonflight is some monumental achievement of an expansion and refuse to acknowledge that, narratively, it managed to somehow be fucking worse than Shadowlands. For all of it's faults, Shadowlands didn't end with all of the technicolor dragon gods floating off the ground with their glowie power ranger sigils and talk about how magical friendship and family is.
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>>559076115
Voidstorm is honestly pretty kino but it's super frustrating how Blizz refuses to commit to the bit with the Dominaar being these evil, constantly backstabbing warlord like entities and just have to shovel in the most inane retarded bullshit like spending 5 quests training one of their dogs.
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>For some reason the trannies and faggots at blizzard think Dragonflight is some monumental achievement of an expansion
You dont get it. Dragonflight is the new beginning for Blizzard. The first expansion they pushed out without those bigoted old developers.
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>>559075994
the only reason for it is because they didn't bother fitting the dragon riding tutorial into the campaign, that's how low effort they take leveling and the new player experience
they made the shitty catch up book instead so they'll never touch TWW again ever
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>Haranir are perfect vampires
>Cant be a Blood DKs
Blizz just cant stop making me mad.
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They announced a "massive overhaul to the starting experience" at Gamescom. Clearly that shit was immediately scrapped and they just stuck Jaina and Thrall into Exiles Reach and called it a day. DF still being the recommended leveling xpac also seems part of this, they where just too lazy to update it to TWW.
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Part of the sovl of classic was walking around the actual game with other players immediately being mogged by you just by seeing the gear you had equipped. For example I remember if you were playing during ACTUAL TBC back in the day, before the droprate buff in classic, if you had the warglaives you were elevated in status above the lumpenprole and everybody knew it.
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>>559075673
just buy midnight, use the boost, and start playing midnight. it comes out in about 12 hours. if you want to catch up with the story use the lorewalking recap feature.
i can't in good faith recommend playing anything other than current content. not even leveling new characters through old content. the game is just not maintained at any level beyond the current expansion. everything else feels like a waste of time, because it is.
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>No world quests left
>No PREY left
>224 ilvl
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>>559076713
In the current game everything is laughably obtainable, retard. Even if you get filtered by mythic which is sad enough on it's own, you can literally buy a wow token and get carried through whatever drop you want.
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>>559076752
I honestly agree, despite the writing being a bit strange at times, TWW felt extremely disconnected. It almost felt schizophrenic at points with how plot lines appeared then vanished. Everything about Thrall (Lok'tar Ogar, everyone) and the Radiant Song especially
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>>559076825
Where did you get that bad info from? WoD is still by far the fastest for leveling. DF has way too much forced flying across the entire zone and having to listen to NPCs talk for several minutes to complete a quest.
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>>559076867
In Vanilla, you couldn't buy a WoW token through the store. You had to do it through RMT if you wanted to really do that, which even though it was minimal there was still risk attached to it. Also actually making gold was a bit more time intensive, in retail professions are designed to be basically maxed out in an hour and the rest of your grind is farming rep for specific recipes, knowledge points, or whatever retarded treadmill they herd you onto. Making gold has never been easier, getting an army of alts to concentration spam has never been easier since you can just buy boosts and not even level. It's a bit disingenous to suggest these things are the same.
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>>559076869
It's an improvement for sure, but there's no reason not to have a toggle in the character menu that just lets you hide your helmet
>I want it hidden without opening menus is somehow not good?
Not good enough!!!!!!!
I mean, sure, if the option wasn't in the game ever I'd give it a pass but there's no justification to remove little options like that from the game honestly. Why the fuck didn't they just keep it in.
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https://www.pcgamer.com/games/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-midn ights-lead-composer-feels-very-luck y-and-happy-that-were-not-using-gen erative-ai/
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>>559063259
I like what happened with hpal. midnight hpal is a peak example of why you should not let retard streamers have any power.
when the rework released in beta it was mostly received positively except for some fat blob streamer that pushed hard for changes to focus on crusader strike and make it more like TWW hpal or otherwise he woulnd't be able to do his heckin guides (real btw), so they did revert some of the rework to test the waters on that and actually nobody wanted that tww shit back and even the fatso streamer backpedalled on his own shit opinion to say that "erm rework was le fine actually it just needed some buffs" so they reverted it again for good.
so yeah retards were exaggerating how "bad" the rework was, because it wasn't it was pure bitching for the sake of bitching
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>>559076960
>Where did you get that bad info from?
From personal experience. I did both recently. With DF you hit level 70 by the time you're fucking around with centaurs, while with WoD I was still at 56 in the Spires of Arak
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I think tmog should be restrained to the current expansion and that you should have to build up a collection to use in the new expansion. But blizzard would have to make a lot more basic/leveling sets to make it work. I just want people to look like shitty adventurers at the start of an expansion
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>>559075734
Then I'd go back to just Classic, to be honest.
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I see, thanks.
>>559075892
Alright, thanks for the advice Anon.
Can I also do this without the boost?
Like start into TWW and then level up manually?
I'm afraid if I use the boost and then don't like the playstyle very much, then I'd waste the boost.
Also I probably would learn the class better than if I just boost.
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Thanks Anon, will look them up.
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Hm, that's sounds kinda sad, to be honest.
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>>559077371
Regardless of what people tell you, none of the classes are that bad to play and everything is pretty close to baselined out unless you're playing at the highest levels. Just pick whatever flavor of fantasy faggot you like most and stick with it. The idea that you'll fundamentally like the playstyle of one class more than another is a psyop, every class that pertains to a specific type (Melee dps, ranged dps, healer, tank, etc) pretty much play the same, especially with the midnight dumb down.
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>Also I probably would learn the class better than if I just boost.
Nah. Classes have been simplified and I would say that its usually not worth learning the inner workings of the class before 70 because they are often barely functional before that point. Like, your optimal rotation will be significantly different at level 90 than it is at 50, and there's no point in learning the level 50 rotation.
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>>559077256
that would just mean you would see more cash shop tmogs because you are reducing the available pool that all the non-retards have access to.
>>559077371
honestly just scratch the wow itch with classic if there isnt a trial available for the new xpack if you're on the fence. even then i'd ideally have a 1 month itinerary lined up with someone i know whos also playing, or watch some guy stream the expansion content. i debated buying battlefield 6 but i got the heebie jeebies at the last minute and backed off, and dodged a major bullet and thats the rationale i have toward any new FOMO shit by known corporate swindlers. its just almost never worth it unless you already had planned way in advance to invest into whatever product youre getting into.
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>>559077534
>The idea that you'll fundamentally like the playstyle of one class more than another is a psyop
This is absolutely a thing. I love the fantasy of warrior but I hate playing fury. Sometimes even a hero branch makes a class play like shit (ex: arcane spellslinger)
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>>559077371
no idea why half of these cranky ass replies are so mad
not any of these anons but just pick up a campaign you like to 10-70 in chromie time, then do the TWW recap which is like a summary of TWW story and patches with even some raid bosses which is pretty cool, that will make you level from 70-80 and then you can start fresh in midnight at 80 and prepare with some auction house cheap gear at 80 because leveling is harder than usual and things hit hard later
addons wise you can mythic raid with zero addons now and won't have an actual disadvantage in UI, that's cus a lot of advantage-like addons like GTFO and weakauras got pretty much bricked and that's a good thing
have fun lil bro enjoy the ride
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>>559077641
>no idea why half of these cranky ass replies are so mad
because its not my first rodeo and i know how it goes. i got dragonblight as someone who was returning to the game after skipping a couple xpacks and it kept me entertained for 2-3 weeks.
if thats all you need then go for it, there are worse ways to get rid of 90 buckaroos or whatever it costs nowdays.
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>>559077659
I mainly raidlog for CE and mostly m+ inbetween, I've dabbled in PvP but PvP in WoW has been ass since legion. Last fun I had with it was the BFA prepatch event, shit was so fucking kino. Maybe the new EBG will be fun so I'll give it another swing.
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>>559077836
this but unironically. 50% of their payday is from china. wonder what kind of shit they're passing off to their chink investors in quiet meetings behind closed doors, especially knowing blizz has a history of butting heads with congress
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>>559078027
Every main male character in the game now has to be emasculated in some way. With Turalyon it was making him a 2 dimensional PTSD fag, with Arator it's making him the weepiest son of a bitch you can possibly imagine, worse than Anduin even.
>We all know how they did Khadgar...
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>beta
>devourer gets its own dedicated thread for feedback on the forums
>spec has major issues making it non-functional
>get over 2000 posts describing everything wrong in painstaking detail and providing simple solutions with an unprecedented degree of consensus on the WoW forums
>beta devs fucking ignore it all and do whatever the fuck they want anyway
>goes live
>live devs immediately hotfix the spec according to the feedback in the beta forums
>to the point where the beta version is now behind the live version
>beta devs grudgingly add the hotfixed changes to the beta in the next patch
>spec now works properly
What the fuck is wrong with the beta team?
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>>559077953
>ywn never have a threesome with Ysera and Alex
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>>559078236
>this bullshit midwit take again
In the cinematic where Illidan kills Xe'ra, his eyes literally turn bright yellow when she's reborn. After she's gone his eyes turn into the normal brown colour.
Xe'ra's presence alone made him nearly want to kill Illidan himself post death, now replace Xe'ra with the fucking Sunwell pulsing SO MUCH light energy the plants are mutating and killing everything.
This detail is all dismissed by retards that don't even play the game and jump into "erm why he bad?? why bad?? is this le character assassination?" it's literally the antithesis of that as it's going by the same rules of Legion Turalyon, years later, and consistently so. And it's not even a bad thing, he looks cool while doing so.
Picrel is from 2018 btw.
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>>559077534
Oh, aight.
Guess it changed pretty significantly after my last time playing.
Back in Classic I just played Holy Priest and then during Cata, I tried Shaman, during Legion I was playing Warlock, IIRC.
Probably gonna try out Death Knight.
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Point taken.
>>559077641
Thanks Anon, that's good advice.
I just want to waste the small time I have with just chill leveling. which was the best experience for me back in the day.
I don't have that much time like I had when I was in school 20 years ago.
>>559077668
Fair enough.
Might give it a shot too, if I get burned out by Retail.
>>559077558
Don't have any trial available, IIRC but also don't mind buying the expansion 60 day GTC.
Would be playing mostly solo as al my past friends are probably gone by now.
My issue is that I want to enjoy a MMORPG again but with the current state of the market it's either WoW, GW2, FFXIV and maybe ESO.
The only one which would probably also scratch my itch would be GW2, as I never really got into FFXIV.
ESO is a hit and miss for me, as I really enjoy the setting but the combat feels just so clunky.
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>>559078297
It's not the fact he's a light-enraged retard that's the issue, he was like that in Legion too as you described. In Midnight he's only there as a foil to Arator to fit the whole "feminine understanding son vs hyper-aggressive Dad" trope. His longest appearance in the campaign PERIOD is literally just him trying to kill some troll and Arator jumping in front of him and having his Tianemen square moment. The rest of his appearances are turning into a weepy faggot and standing awkwardly in the corner at the end of the Voidstorm questline while Arator and Alleria have a strangely long hugging session. That isn't even counting all of the peripheral stuff with him where he's basically maligned as being evil-adjacent as they've decided to do the extremely tired "erm, actually light isn't ALL good, it's very morally grey you see..." bit again.
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Why do they never mention light blindness when dealing with Lothraxion, then? They 100% blamed it on a moral failing of his. And he was literally in the void, this would had been lessened in there.
Its obvious that they are drawing the lines at an ideological level, not some physiological response to the Sunwell.
It COULD have been that, but the writers didnt go for it. As it stants, the whole concept is just headcannon.
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See, you faggots don't even play the fucking game and base your dogshit opinions on random cutscenes that last 30 seconds.
His longest appearance is right in the fucking intro, I won't even bother with the rest as I'm expecting more amerifat psychosis.
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How do you, pandaren or chubby male(race irrelevant) in general feel about this freaky self-proclaimed 'chubby male connoisseur' fetishizing your body? especially if you're self conscious about it what kind of emotion do you experience when he mythologizes your manboobs like it's this godly exotic otherwordly thing
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>>559078594
Ah yes, the intro where he says a few lines, I'm talking about the moments that actually develop him. But you can seethe all you want. You are literally an ant beneath my boot, eat your goy goop and get in your MAID pod, never speak to me again.
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>>559077075
That's fucking bullshit and if it isn't then the composer should be ashamed of himself for making such generic tracks that could be mistaken for AI.
The truth is that the music has been bad ever since DF, with few exceptions.
It's too orchestral and not "fantasy" enough, which is a big building block in WoW's history.
I'm no music guy but whatever instrument starts here is used a lot of old fantasy movies and such:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDMa49NrQPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB79u-YNIAw&list=PL15C476DB9D6B0D61&in dex=6
Interestingly the only noteworthy part in this new soundtrack are the parts that heavily mimic the TBC soundtracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdqvILKOWrc
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>>559078336
when i got back into wow in dragonblight it was with a friend and we leveled to the max lvl in like 1-2 sessions. you level so fast that you barely have time to crack into the zones and dragonflight main story was like 5-6 hours idk. if you have been burned out by classic then like i said, twow has bunch of extra zones plopped along the way and its still very active. if youre expecting similar kinda comfy vibe leveling journey as classic from retail its a far cry.
but even then at the end of the day if u wanna get the xpack then get the xpack nigga and ignore everything else, in the worst case you are down 60 bux
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>>559078616
You are not welcome in Silvermoon
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>>559078297
>his eyes literally turn bright yellow when she's reborn. After she's gone his eyes turn into the normal brown colour.
Yeah I noticed this in legion and pointed it out and no one seemed to care.
He was clearly like Lightbound MC simping for the wind chime and when it got blown up his eyes changed color.
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Surely (You)'re all not broke boys, right?
(You) DO own the 10 milly painting, right?
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>>559077659
There's like 10 of us doing m+, maybe 2 or 3 pvp players and 40 players doing heroic raid / with only 5 doing mythic raid.
The rest are full of degenerate RPplayers or retards who call themselves "delvegod", who think they are superior to others because they don't play the real game, but it's just a cope because they can't or not invited to play it so they only take pictures of their chara or do achievement/transmog hunting.
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>>559078748
It's the biggest system of note in the expansion. For what its' worth, the system itself isn't horrible. The main problem is, you toy with it for 40 minutes and never touch it again. Or you finish your house to a point where you like it then never touch it again. The ERP'er faggots will probaby love it though, which I guess is who this game is designed for now so do with that what you will.
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>>559078732
Pandaren men may be my 1#, but i don't care where the tummy & moobs come from, even if it's a knife ear.
I will kiss you, and poke your fat if i see that body shape!!
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>>559078954
Yes then they nerfed it into just +speed stat in the BFA prepatch because for some reason there can be absolutely nothing of use from anything but current expansion.
I was talking about it the other day with a guildie.
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>>559078297
>this stupid retard is back
You're not smart for noticing something that was pointed out instantly in Legion.
Turalyon is just the "old fashion WRONG chud" character in this expansion and that's all there is to that "thinking" process of the writers
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>>559078138
Be grateful Varian died when he did so we wouldn't have to see what these fucking trannies would have done to him.
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>>559079240
I sometimes feel bad about my favourite characters having been killed, but then I remember what the trannies would likely do to them nowdays and don't feel so bad anymore desu
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>>559079386
>Just a tantrum over a made up problem
You seem very invested in it despite this claim. Thou doth protest too much sir.
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>>559079421
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>>559078397
Yeah, but it used to be worse. Look at BFA and Azerite gear. The live team didn't immediately hotfix it. In fact, it took a whole patch for them to get around to it. And I'd say that's usually their modus operandi. Hoping this is a sign of change at Blizz.
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And yet the feedback clearly had an impact once the live team could do something about it.
>>559078843
I'm guessing there's some sort of conflict going on between the different teams, each undoing the other's work. And considering how awful the beta/PTR team has been compared to the live team, I know who I'm siding with.
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sinu a'manore
>>559079052
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>>559079458
Varian had the best death we could have ever hoped for in retrospect. How good that cinematic was, how good the tone of Legion overall was, especially in the beginning and the Broken Shore scenario. Nobody could have guessed we would have ended up where we are now. Hell even the drop from the Blackhand cinematic in WoD to now is fucking demoralizing.
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>>559061496
I don't understand how they still allow this. I have mained Havoc for a couple of expansions and decided to level a warlock first for this one.
If the Eversong questline took me 2 hours on my warlock, it took me 30 minutes on my Havoc. It's not even close.
How is this fucking ok? I can constantly pull 10-15 mobs, eye beam, blade dance and move on with 100% hp.
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>>559079764
Get yourself a healer :3
Don't worry i found the one, meet your new Mistweaver healer!https://files.catbox.moe/q49ani.png
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>>559079386
Okay midwit
The Turalyon thing in Legion was a subtle but ultimately dropped storyline and now the only reason something similar is in the story is because Light = Christianity-coded andTuralyon is a classic white man hero character and a prominent member of the Light faith so the writers use him and the Light as a strawman to beat with their "Good thing BAD actually" shit storytelling.
These people are some of the the most petty and vindictive types you can find and are absolutely obsessed with subversive writing and "sticking it to the chuds".
I've come to realize that pretty much any generalization and stereotype about them is accurate, the heavily gynocentric and frankly misandrist writing is more than enough proof.
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>>559071741
>Hey, plebs - actually good is not good, bad is not actually bad, but rather misunderstood
This is trend in entertainment starting with early 10s and peaking with NuSW and other popular franchises, to destroy the very clear line between good and bad under the sauce of kool modernism.
When you can't see what is bad and what is good it is easier for rich to do evil shit.
Troons for how mentally ill and dumb they are willingly or unwillingly became the main tools in their hands.
Factually what Blizzard writers are doing now was rightfully punished by guillotine 200-300 years ago, for how evil it is. This is social engineering done through the video game.
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>>559079761
Not him but even though it's been years, I can list quite a few off the top of my head.
>covenant abilities being imba
>covenant switching being absolutely ass
>inability to see full story because of it
>the maw being absolute ass as well
>no flight for fucking ever despite zones clearly being designed around flying mounts
>worst lorelol in WoW history
>professions were garbage
>killing archaeology
>legendary system made you want to kill yourself
>conduit system made you want to learn how to resurrect yourself so you could kill yourself repeatedly
>mission tables were somehow made even worse
>wtf is that dinner party event
At least they waited until the next expansion to make everyone gay/trans/asexual/snowflake.
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>>559079761
Too much to succinctly put in a single post but I'll try my best:
>Covenants/Soulbinds/Conduits + legendaries layered together, with player power tied to Covenant choice.
>Torghast became a weekly obligation because Soul Ash (legendary currency) came exclusively from Torghast and though Torghast itself wasn't bad, it became a slog when you were forced to do it to engage with any of the other endgame content.
>The Maw was the most buck-breaking zone blizz ever made. Just pointlessly retarded.
> some of the worst patch cadence / content drought in the game's history. the gap to 9.1 was unusually long and most people got bored of just doing the handful of treadmill shit, 9.1 also sucked.
>The Jailer.
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>They will Anakin Turalyon throughout Midnight culminating with him doing some bad shit and then redeeming himself with some good shit dying in the process.
I'm tired, boss.
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>>559080357
it's one of the most pathetic and embarrassing things i've ever seen put into this game in my 18 years of playing it, i genuinely cannot believe it made it to live
just blatant real world politics propaganda with a lefty anti-conservative slant where you even play as the fucking wrongthink police
no subtlety whatsoever, some of the red dawn's propaganda papers even quote trump and other conservative figures in an in-universe way
most people who saw it on social media only know it for the terribly animated cutscene at the end, they don't know thats just the tip of the iceberg here
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I'm sorry, but the shit with Lothraxion made literally no sense whatsoever. It was the most fucking forced "misunderstanding/betrayal" shit I've ever seen.
>Literally fought to save Silvermoon.
>Was the first into the breach into the voidstorm to save silvermoon.
>From his perspective, Decius's faggotry led to the death of a Naaru (which it kind of did.)
>Constantly told he's being retarded when we're very obviously being led into a trap.
>Betrayed by Decius very predictably, vindicating Lothraxion.
>ERHM, ACTUALLY IT WASN'T A BETRAYAL?
>Lothraxion has very understandable hesitation to immediately trusting the Dominaar who just fucking almost had both the main character and Alleria killed in a fight to the death.
>Is killed for doing what is actually the rational thing to do given the circumstances.
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>>559080206
Their main problem was that heroes were usually white coded and villains were brown coded in everything.
And when they tried to break that, people would sympathize with the villain.
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>>559080208
>imba
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>>559080914
>do tutorial
>pick up campaign at chromie time to get a grip on the game
>do tww story in a few hours in the recap
>do midnight
what's exactly the bad thing here or what could be improved? It felt just right when last time I played with my friend, much better than before at least
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>>559080732
I'm not even going to list all the pre-WoW deaths.
>Varian Wrynn
>Bolvar Fordragon (yes he counts)
>Kael'Thas Sunstrider
>Fandral Staghelm
>AU Velen
>pretty much every fun alliance character introduced in MoP
>Tirion Fordring
>Maraad
I'm not sure where this shit started but Blizz LOVES the horde.
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>>559080775
Dungeons right now literally drop gear that's worse than what you get from world quests. Who gives a fuck? You do dungeons to learn them and for the quests. The gear from them only matters if you're desperate.
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>>559077075
Funny how out of the blue they paid for this article, now that Midnight soundtrack sounds AI as fuck.
Ive generated enough AI music slop to tell from the real composer's work.
There is no sense of purpose and direction behind every track. Music just goes through the motion of repeated beats, or opposite - disjointed noise, with the parts changing absolutely randomly.
Also I swear I've heard Protoss notes here and there in the soundtrack, meaning that most likely Blizzard just fed their whole soundtrack library to AI and failed to notice when it churned out the beats from other franchises.
There is absolutely no feeling of human talent being behind it.
Absolute ass.
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>>559080732
>thinking alliance or horde matter
Foolish clown, what matters is if the character has the right opinions, which coincides with the opinions and beliefs of a 2026 Californian liberal woman.
Turalyon either admits he was wrong for being a hateful bitter chud or he gets killed, ideally in a humiliating way where he still abandons all his beliefs for a new belief system he decided to die for 5 seconds before.
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>implying he ever cared about Silvermoon
Lothraxion only ever cared about fighting back the Void. He made it clear several times. And throughout the Voidstorm story, we ally with a Domanaar, we fuck up saving a Naaru so bad it turns to shadow and gets destroyed and then we go "Oh man, instead of destroying those towers and ending the threat to all of Azeroth and stopping the Void once and for all, we should just shut them down temporarily to weaken the Void for a while so we don't damage Silvermoon."
The dude had good reasons to lose his shit at the end. It looked like everyone was a fucking retard and letting the Void win because they either wouldn't do what was needed or were actually trying to trick him.
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>>559081428
>Scarlet Crusade murdering people left and right all the way back in vanilla
>paladins purging Stratholme back in Warcraft 3
>the razing of Alterac in Warcraft 2
I'm not sure where you guys were before but the Light has never been this force of ultimate good. It's always been about faith.
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>>559081367
It's not even implying he cared about silvermoon, the observable fact that he fought to save it has no relation to the prescription that he cared about it at all. he obviously had his own motivations for being there, but it was completely undisputed that he was on your side the entire time. The entire reason he was killed was because Alleria needed a girlboss moment of being right about everything the whole time or whatever the fuck and Lothraxion was actually the schizo pms'ing. It's just lazy, they needed at least one light boss for their dungeon lineup so they can further the motif that void bad and light ALSO bad. Which to be clear, I couldn't care less about, but if you're going to fucking psyop me at least make the psyop well-written and tasteful.
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>>559081256i
it's much more linear, and post the chromie time campaign it's linera AND has an overarching narrative overlapping TWW with Midnight.
before it was extremely random, it's literally an upgrade and yeah it can be improved more but to say it's bad for x type of player while not being that type of player is dumb af and wrong
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>>559081451
Basically this >>559081495 or "busted", "broken" and whatever reddit/ebonics variant of that.
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Why are they trying so hard this expansion to paint the Light in a negative way?
Like what does it add by making it """"""morally grey"""""?
Or is it just trannies and religious trauma?
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>>559081495
Well in the case of the SL covenant abilities, the problem was really just imbalance. Some were underpowered, some were overpowered. That means that certain specs were pigeonholed into picking a specific covenant or underperform. And for people who wanted to switch spec, it was hell if, say, your healing spec needed a different covenant from your DPS spec.
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>>559081412
>have 1 draenei character that isn't Velen
>kill him for Yrel
>abandon Yrel too
>finish Velen's story in the very next expansion
There are no draenei characters left, not even those 2 fem lightforged sidesluts that Turalyon totally doesn't bang
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>lvling in harandar
>get to the quest where you go to eversong
>i somehow gets flagged for pvp
>meh whatever
>still quest
>some alliance player attacks me out of nowhere
>he doesn't realise im a blood dk so i cant die
>i get him to like 30% hp
>he disconnects or phases out or whatever
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>>559079805
self bump cause this bullshit is driving me insane and I need another opinion
How the fuck can I find enjoyment in 30 second single mob pulls after playing Havoc and gathering 10 mobs to one shot with an eye beam that makes my peepee hard?
HELP
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>>559081565
>Scarlet Crusade murdering people left and right all the way back in vanilla
scarlet are the surviving people of Lordaeron and their rightful land
>paladins purging Stratholme back in Warcraft 3
necessary
>the razing of Alterac in Warcraft 2
traitors get the rope
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>>559081579
He didn't fight to save it. If it had been up to it, he would have nuked Silvermoon right away if it meant beating the Void. But he made concessions at first since they were able to convince him it wasn't necessary. Then we spend the rest of the campaign proving ourselves wrong so he just goes "Fuck you" and does whatever the fuck he wants.
Really, I'm more annoyed at how incompetent everyone is written to be and the voice actor for Decimus making him sound like he's always being sarcastic.
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>>559081565
>Scarlet Crusade was entirely justified and only made bad for gameplay reasons so Horde wouldn't get an exclusive dungeon
>Culling of Stratholme was entirely justified and would've saved the kingdom if Uther and Jaina didn't backstab Arthas
>killing traitors is good
None of those prove your "point"
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> A woman CEO, Maya Milusheva, visited a university.
> A feminist girl asked - Why don’t you hire only women?
> She replied - I tried hiring women, but
- Girls are quite lazy.
- They are not good programmers.
- Most of them cheat.
- They don’t work hard.
- Boys work late to fix problems, girls don’t.
- She said she doesn’t want the company to suffer because of diversity hiring.
Feminist girls had no answer to that.
In reality, it’s true in every single field. Men are simply better.
Remove diversity hiring and women’s quotas. Let men and women compete on a level field and see who wins.
weird how this applies to WoW lol
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>>559081621
Nothing, it's what happens when the western world gets exposed too fast to ideas of moral relativity without actually studying the philosophy behind them.
Most slop franchises will try to use it to seem "more mature" since in the last 10 years we have been constantly spammed with "good vs evil is for kids, the world is gray."
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>>559081565
>Scarlets were literally steered by a dreadlord (Balnazzar possessing Saidan Dathrohan) while the rank-and-file thought they were following a holy crusader.
>Stratholme was Arthas ordering the slaughter and Uther refusing. It’s a moral rupture and part of Arthas’ downfall, it's very obviously the exact moment he ceases to be a paladin.
>Alterac is a political/military reprisal for treason
I'm starting to think you don't actually know what you're talking about...
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>>559081734
There is supposed to be this new variant of draenei, basically a part of those who fled from Argus, but split apart or something.
But since this is nudevs responsible for them, I absolutely expected them to be lame and pozzed as fuck. But maybe they will surprise.
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>>559081628
The real kick in the teeth was the first patch lasting for 9 months with virtually zero changes to the covenant abilities during that entire time period. Like the covenant abilities could obviously never be perfectly balanced between each other, but they could have at least TRIED to get the numbers closer. Some covenant spells where so bad in season 1 that it was a literal dps loss to push them over a normal ability.
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>>559081621
>Or is it just trannies and religious trauma?
It is literally just these
A lot of people in the west have a cactus up their ass about religion, but only Christianity and literally no other.
Light is very, very influenced by Christianity, put two and two together and you get the answer
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lyt ppl be like da lite always gud never been bad
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alright
starting my wow journey after 5+ years with this bimbo lmao
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>>559082287
Any time in the lore where le light bad happens it's usually a dreadlord manipulating people to use the light as a tool to do evil things. I'm not even kidding with how often this exact trope happened. With the void it's literally the exact opposite, it's a purely malignant and evil force and it has to be used at great peril to the user to be twisted to do something of any value. Treating these two forces like they're morally grey and totally as evil as one another is fucking retarded.
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>>559081891
And how is what the Army of the Light doing not good? Not just require doing hard things? The Void is the single worst thing in existence. It's so bad that when Sargeras saw it, he went "Fuck it, I'm burning all of existence down just so they'll burn with it" and made the Burning Legion. Now it shows up on Azeroth to consume it and they do everything they can to hold it back but they have to deal with a bunch of prissy elves who aren't willing to inconvenience themselves so the whole world can be saved. Those same elves aren't merely being useless, they're trying to dictate how they should behave and whining that they don't want Silvermoon to be damaged. Then there's a bunch of void addled retards who swear they only want to get closer to the Sunwell to help and not to corrupt it and get access to more void energies to feed on. Then when the niggers from Zul'Aman start cutting down the trees in the elves' backyard, they actually go there to help to make sure it doesn't turn into a war on two fronts but when Turalyon is about to execute the leader of the raiders, his idiot son throws himself in front of the sword and Zul'jan just runs away.
None of what the Army of Light is doing is wrong. They're just willing to make the necessary sacrifices, unlike the rest of the worthless trash they're surrounded by.
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>>559081984
correct
they think it makes their writing "mature and nuanced" to "go beyond" good vs evil
but this is genuinely midwit thinking, good and evil are universal themes that people connect with and hold meaning. "everything is shades of grey" is basically nihilism when they approach moral relativism the way that they do, ie "nothing is truly good or evil" which is just nonsense to how people actually experience the world. good and evil are real for most people.
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I don't think any other single image has done more damage to Warcraft than this one.
>Light and Void are opposites
>BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST AS BAD
I am so sick of writing like this
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this feels like it was written by AI desu
>diplomatic situation
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>>559082287
Anduin's wife is so cute
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>>559082994
Dont worry, chances are it will get buffed soon-ish. Balance in this game is always seasonal. One tier you will be the top dog, the next tier you're in the shitter.
>>559083039
Maybe it wont be for the tier but it should come in a couple months.
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remember when feats of strength meant something?
me neither
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Troons will really look at magic that's primarily used to heal, bless and revive people and say
"Yea that's just as bad as that thing used to curse and directly hurt people"
>b-but what about that naaru who-
Naaru are sentient and can make selfish choices, like trying to forcibly convert Illidan, the Light is good, the wielder might not be "good" to some's perspective but what matters is that they believe that their deeds are good, and 99% of the time their deeds ARE good.
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whys the personal ressource display not working?
neither in combat nor outside
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>>559083386
>Sally rides you and milks you dry
>*it's no over yet champion*
>uses light to restore your stamina
>repeat
>it becomes hell
see Light is bad
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>>559082857
I used to think this cosmology chart and two-faction divide were the biggest burdens on warcraft lore
but then again, the nu-wow writers being what they are, it could actually be much worse without them
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>>559083781
How would you have felt if you hadn't eaten anything yesterday?
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>>559083630
Note also that the skimpiest design shown in pre-release is conspicuously absent from release.
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look at this zesty ass nigga lmao
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>Stay awhile and listen
Now why would I do that.
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>>559083936
>and two-faction divide were the biggest burdens on warcraft lore
The two factions were handled a lot better in vanilla where the two factions were more a political partnership out of necessity rather than common ground, especially with night elves and undead.
Now both factions are basically just a more cringe version of the EU where one dominant faction in it forces its will on the less powerful factions, with Alliance just being 90% human, 10% night elf and Horde kinda orc but is just a non-entity at this point.
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Sally did nothing wrong
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>>559084016
>So where is the male section?
kek, lmao
it's 2026 anon, the game has stopped caring about male character a long time ago
you're a retard however because the male sets are right there as well, but you conveniently didn't see them because you wanted to come here and pretend you're upset
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yeah not gonna bother with this pussified lecturing dog ass storytelling
gonna just stop reading quests and shit
hopefully TLT is better (ive been saying this about upcoming expanions since shadowlands and in fact, it never is better)
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>>559084421
ahh i had to activate it a 2nd time in some other option under combat lol
the ui editor seems to be cramped inside gameplay enhancements try that
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Scaley Whitemane.
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>Finish msq
>Only level 87
Tha fuck!????
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>>559084168
Reminder that Haranir can cosplay like 6 other races.
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>>559082254
You can do their questline already in the void zone.You help them open portal back to their home, but one of them has to stay behind and close the portal so she's stuck with us now
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>>559084481
Yea anyone who actually plays the game and doesn't have world first pushing guild weakauras set up knew that them butchering addons would be bad and hurt basic UI addons and Blizzard is never going to be as good and fast as addon developers are.
They had free labor in the form of addon developers picking up their slack and they fucking got rid of them LMAO
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What's her goal again?
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>>559082857
>create autistic categorization of cosmic forces
>don't really show how these forces interact on a fundamental level
what was the point
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>>559084296
she didn't have my babies
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>>559084784
based deh enjoyer
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>>559084879
:( aw man
guess i'll have to re-roll
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>>559084225
which kinda proves my point why it's such a burden on the writers to try to keep it all somewhat coherent, especially with the constant stream of new allied races joining the factions
if we only had smaller sub-factions with loose alliances between each other, it might be better overall for the lore and worldbuilding
but because warcraft lore was originally based on the two faction conflict it's never going away
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>>559084919
There's a very easy way to improve the 2 faction aspect of the story:
Make them actually fight each other.
In BfA is worked out very well, minus bad storytelling of course, but it gave the 2 factions a lot more life and reasons for existing.
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>wow I didn't know amani trolls had families and a culture, wtf I hate genocide now
Why is every single character written like 30yo millenial who just got her first job and is still "learning and finding herself :)"? Liadrin is fucking 3000 years old, fuck off with this shit, she had her moments of introspection 2900 years ago. Learn to write old characters.
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>>559085029
Warcraft is based on that philosophy and the world it takes place in you fucking retard, and it's one of the best fantasy stories ever made.
It's almost the foundation for most stories in human history.
YOU are the odd one out.
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>>559084845
Danuser and Copeland needed a paycheck mkay?
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>try frost mage for a couple of levels
>don't feel like playing the game starring at a stack counter (shatter)
>swap to arcane
>you're playing the game starring at a stack counter (salvo)
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>>559085374
Yes...
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I like their looks
They have cute idle animations too
Also they make Nelves seethe and it's very entertaining
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>>559084903
the class is in a really rough state and has been for a while. it lost all of its identity when stealth stopped being useful and world pvp died and it no longer fills any niche that can't simply be done by another dps. it's not the worst class in the game if you play sub, but I can't really recommend it.
*do not* play assass however, genuinely one of the worst specs in the game currently
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