>>566810697 Interesting thing I noticed, I think ABA is the only character with painted nails. Thought for sure at least Test or Elphelt but from what I can tell only ABA.
>Rewards included in Blazing Pass Plus may become available through other methods at a later date So it confirms that you can get the pass rewards after the pass ends through a different methods. I could think of a case scenario it would be done through fishing again lol. Another scenario is of course the launch of an in game store and you can buy them using world dollars or another scenario is to pack them into DLCs that you can buy or crack them. Just like Granblue I guess.
How to enjoy the game in Park : - Leave the match after you won 5 or 10 times - Playing a match against Max AURA WANTED lvl 5900? Analyze the gameplay and try to win at least 5 games. Doesn't matter if you get hard bodied. - Don't hesitate to switch character - Enjoy the game
That being said, after like 500 games in Park, I can tell you who's dead : - Testament (literally missing) - Goldlewis (unironically, I see this guy way less now) - A.B.A (you already know)
Now the following characters are annoying as hell : - Dizzy (I see this sleepy zoner way more than HC desu) - Unika (big buttons, big damage, big zoning, big dp, act like a "slow" powerhouse and I'm out here winning round start with 5H lmao)
>>566813354 iirc you need to download a save file with the battlepass completed. That's what I know from Tekken 8 and Granblue battlpasses. Now when the pass ends and the rewards become DLCs you can crack them of course.
>>566813774 i wish talkin about HC would lead to an ban like how deep fried is your brain not to understand hes gone and never coming back and hes infinite was never even real stop wasting your precious timee thinking about hc being ever even existed
>>566804224 uuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh >Adjusted so that returning the directional input to neutral or inputting within 4F immediately after inputting ( or or or or or ) + Dash button no longer triggers a dash. Doesn't this hurt dashblocking? >Adjusted so that inputting within 4F immediately after inputting ( or or or or or ) + Dash button no longer triggers a backdash. No more backdashing after blocking low?
This is the small, hotfix patch before the big one right? To make myself clear, I am not saying the game needs a big patch, but I remember hearing that they were to do a second pass on balance a bit after 2.0, I just want to know if it's this one or not
>>566814176 HC is high school bully who died off screen to drug overdose or got driven by car it's over hes dead and buried now think of something else hes never coming back
remember that questionnaire they asked fucking years ago about how frequently you'd like the game updated? where are the people who voted for long cycles now?
>want to play Millia because she's cute and has a MASSIVE ass >actually playing her is about as fucking busy as playing Jack-o I'm not gonna make it...
>Daisuke's old art is a badge and not something you can swap out with the wanted poster render art Wtf >You can set your opponent's skins like sf6 Nice >God I-no is the only "skin", Sol is the only weapon swap, only some characters get a color in the first premium pass, only 1 new wanted poster and UI (once again slapped on top) Lol >some throw backdash os shit reworked ok >balance tweaks are just HC steady aim and Millia corner carry Whack
>>566821853 Yeah, I fucking hate how her skin glows and changes color but she does have a fantastic ass too so I play her regularly Much more brainlet friendly
>>566821960 >balance tweaks are just HC steady aim and Millia corner carry Didn't they literally, explicitly say this weeks ago? Why are people upset? Why were they expecting more?
does the DLC unlocker apply to the gooner battlepass yet? You're not gonna catch me using the fucking slab but at the same time I'll be damned if they lock any alternate skins away from me
do you think it's too late to git gud before tokon kills strive? i don't like tag fighters and marvel so i'll probably stop playin fightans if strive gets replaced
Newbie here. How do you actually use jabs? They barely lead to proper gatlings and you can only combo from it on counter but I suck at hit confirming so I cannot properly combo off them if that happens.
>>566840178 What do you mean by jabs? You mean like the P or K buttons? They are meant to be low risk low reward (unless you are privileged) options you can use to check your opponent when they are in range. They can usually either lead to a small confirm depending in your character or even a hard knockdown. Can you be more specific since this is Guilt Gear where what character you play matters to know exactly what your options are
Millianiggers had one the best winrates in vanquisher last patch yet now have the NERVE to play victim once again because of a tiny bugfix Tell them how their uninteractive casino character is bullshit and they, like they mindless bots that they are, will just link to the RETARDED video that says that you have to memorize her 9001 mixup permutations just so you can RPS, therefore her mixup is "not real", whatever the fuck that means God I can't stand these drooling baboon APE retards I hate Millianiggers so goddamn much
>>566840476 Example Jam. I understand her K because it leads to a gatling 6K. But her P I do not know how to use. Is it primarily for checking only? Regardless of character, how do you "check"? Does P and K win against far Slash or something?
>>566841096 say you are in the corner getting relentlessly raped you predict they're going for a pressure reset or run up throw mashing 2P/5P is good to stuff those
>>566841096 Jam's 2P also gatlings into her 6K, so I dunno what you're complaining about here Your standing P is pretty much just a quick antiair. It's not gonna be something you use much for mashing on defense or checking approaches in neutral since it's short and would whiff against anything even slightly low profiling. Using your P and K buttons are also for the sake of mashing on defense. If a character is in your face, you probably don't wanna hit a button that takes a long time to actually connect, or rather you wanna use the quickest thing you possibly can. That is where your 2P or 2K come into play. Respectively, they are 5 and 6 frames to start which is much faster than your admittedly fast far slash at 9 frames or your 2S at 10 frames
>>566841096 2p mash is a good way to scout opponents with most characters, but your character may have better options for doing this, though they're unlikely to be as fast. 5p should go into a command normal if it connects. Both fast buttons lose really fucking hard to most slashes and heavy slashes, since those typically have disjoints, but in situations where that's not the case, you can sometimes get through a lot of bullshit with 5p and 2p. See Ky 2p beating Baiken's jumping slash pretty reliably.
>DNF Stool will kill soive >Granpoo will kill soive >2XKRAP-O will kill soive >sharten 8 will kill soive >shit farter 6 will kill soive >sharty blood poomina will kill soive >sharty blood poomina II will kill soive >mortal krapbat 1 will kill soive
>>566841992 >run up throw P and K easily defeat throws? Or does the hitbox of the throw "grab" the hitbox of P and K if you spam it in a obnoxious way? >>566842054 >Jam's 2P also gatlings into her 6K, so I dunno what you're complaining about here I am not complaining. I am asking for advice. I think there's a big difference here. The rest of what you said though is what I was looking for. >>566842753 So basically it's very useful on defense especially when they keep getting very near you and you are waiting for a gap or something.
Seeing so much bitching about the patch. Did morons really think they were going to do another balance patch a month after their huge 2.0 shake up? The meta hasn’t even settled yet everyone’s still giving reactionary takes.
>>566845097 >So basically it's very useful on defense especially when they keep getting very near you and you are waiting for a gap or something. Correct. You can mash to create gaps, too, and interrupt things, especially with many 2ps.
>>566845917 >Did morons really think they were going to do another balance patch a month after their huge 2.0 shake up? Arcsys did say a while that this wasn't a big patch and it was going to be more bug fixes than actual buffs/nerfs. But people seem to forget that for some reason.
i remember that video where hotashi played against a vanquisher millia that just ran up to him and mashed 2ppp, a VANQUISHER millia, who he then taught how to play his character by just telling him to jump at him, and the millia INSTANTLY started taking games off him
>>566845097 >P and K easily defeat throws? There is a throw protection in this game which means that for 5 frames after blockstun or after wakeup, you are immune to grabs. Every character in the game has a 5 frame mashing button and in Jam's case is her 2P. This means that if someone is going to grab you, after blockstun or on your wakeup, you will ALWAYS be able to mash 2P and win. 2K would lose, but it's a 1 frame difference so unless they are perfect on their timing, you would probably still win >So basically it's very useful on defense Yes, but you'll often see some characters employ "dash up 2P" neutral or offense. It's usually very quick and is less prone to getting counterhit since there are objectively less frames of startup to get counterhit on
>>566849798 blue eyes don't mean shit in GG anime land nagoriyuki and venom's black asses have them too. There's also that black alexis chick from Xrd's story with green eyes.
>since 2.0 the discord got invaded by an horde of meme spouting circlejerking zoomers >can't get into vc without hearing retarded shit anymore >if you ask for games without vc they ignore you >my only source for high level matches now is ranked pain
>>566851668 She's the only girl with colors that make her as dark as her color 2, 5 and 11 like nago and venom who get colors that make THEM so much darker so I'm calling her black my friend. She's the designated black mutt American newcomer.
>>566853219 the sheer retardation emanating from my monitor as it displays this post is beyond mortal ken its like you tried to do mental gymnastics, fell flat on your face and then declared them done anyway
>>566856862 I'm really not sure why you're still trying to insist that you can call gio ebony because one of her alts has dark skin an alt with bright yellowish green hair no less your entire premise is stupid and flawed, as I said before
>>566857597 My point is if she is one of the base color darkies that can get a near vantablack skin color in an alt like nago and venom then you can call her ebony the same way you can call those two and not be wrong.
>>566858235 But you're just wrong. You're wrong and stupid. Nago is very obviously and intended to be black, with black features. Venom is a very dark shade of ambiguous anime brown. Gio is explicitly brazillian and brown-skinned because of it. She's not black.
>>566859856 it's crazy that they are genuinely so dumb that they just can't find a way to actually nerf him so they're going to just increase his clunk and make him less and less fun until people stop playing him.
>>566858531 But gio's a burger brazilian (turbo mutt) the same way venom is a big lipped black brit like that other guy said. Plus she has those lips they specifically give to their black characters like Alexis and Augus.
it's so transparent every time someone is shitting on the game in these threads that they just got their asses handed to them in ranked. literally nothing is keeping you here if you hate the game.
most of the times my games against fags with huge normals like nago or ram are just me running away waiting for a chance to gamble between 6p/iad/or the occasional run low if we moved up a layer. I think playing this way is fucking shit and leaves me dissatisfied. There must be a better way to approach these matchups
>>566877327 I call those players "jousters" they pick an approach option to rts with, try their luck win or lose then backdash fullscreen to try again, absolutely miserable to go up against
>>566877327 IAD was supposed to be the check against projectiles and long normals, but the added delay gets you air thrown on reaction, after they recover shit's why I half jokingly suggested they add a complimentary low crush, since they've been soo adamant on making this game a no fly zone
>>566889692 yeah i see it people tell me hurr just dashblock durr. Yeah cause i wanna endure nago or elphelt pressure with the gay ass guardcrush b...but if you dash block pixel perfect her cancel into 5H whiffs alright i have to play like a fucking surgeon while these tards can just flail fS and reap huge rewards
>barring horrible matchups with terrible connection, always win matches between 1500-1600 DR >nearly always lose matches over 1600 DR ...is this what being rank stuck feels like?
>>566895176 The literally who that hasn’t done anything since SFIV? Honestly insane Red Bull still gives him money to sit in his room and not be competitive in any game
>>566893940 Honestly don’t know why people hate fighting Pots. Speed is so oppressive in GG I feel like even though he can be good on paper his players rarely actually pilot him well
>>566900612 I respect some good old fashioned venting but just be up front about it. Coming to the already niche video game general board to find the specific general for a game to say it’s shit is such an obvious self report.
>>566903482 Go into training mode, try to do it ten times in a row both directions, look at your input history when you mess up to see what the common mistake you're making is and then try to be more conscious of it when doing supers during a match.
>havnt played since baiken >used to be here and listen to the ost on spotify that ggst and xrd soundtrack was my most played for 2 years in a row >havnt listened since >at the gym >crawl comes on >get massive pump and energy from the song Holy shit i forgot hoe hard these songs go jesus christ
EX's are actually a lot harder to implement than i thought. i tried doing 25 tension, like +r, but they ended up being too strong and spamable and made you ignore other tension mechanics like rc, daa and overdrive.
i tried to make them straight 50 burst, as a risk reward, but then you have resource snowballing, like WA, where you can spam ex into rc or super. it forces the player to lock themselves out of their main defensive tool.
i guess i could do the Granblue thing and make them cost 50 tension, with a 25 gain on hit, but then what would be the point of spending an overdrive over and EX move?
i could raise the overdrives to 100 tension. but an overdrive would need to be really fucking good to compensate for the high cost. not to mention tension gain would need to be adjusted, leading to more EX spam and ignoring more system mechanics.
>>566930451 in the granblue comparison, overdrives are 100 meter, so EX are half of that, with 1/4 being refunded on a hit where you didn't cancel into the EX move as in you linked it or threw it out raw in neutral
>>566930570 I actually never noticed that, I guess I never played long enough. But basically they're also 25 in granblue but the resource is stretched out a bit for limited use. i still have mixed feelings on spending 25 on such strong options.
Maybe I could make them require 50 tension but spend 25. i dunno.
>>566952459 >Roundstart >You, sit there shitting your fucking pants like a baby >I, swiftly enact my ability "oppose" >W-wHAT! Y-yoU can't DO TH- AAAAAAAack-! Hello my name is Zato-2 and I get to do anything the fuck I want in the entire game off of my ability "oppose" because fuck you, I'm the boss, I am the player, I have fun you die. >Shits down your throat
>>566910317 What did you think negative edging was hard to do or something? Bro just alternate between moves with your shadow and let go of the button who's move you need to come out next. Oppose, into oppose, into oppose, into WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT! For fucks sake even an infant can do HS, PIERCE, PIERCE, FROG, BREAK THE LAW22, into literally WHATEVER in the corner
Enjoy playing rock paper scissors, I'll be enjoying my big boy game
>>566959520 Depends on what your standards are. The "real" real game, like, with actually good players, probably above 1700 DR. But just by ranked scrub standards, you know, people who play a lot, then probably just above 1500 DR.
how pathetic it is that i have two thousand hours and can't get into vanquisher? i thought i was tournament material already by entering celestial regularly
>>566959520 Depends on what you mean by that. There's a pretty big gap within the Plat ranks; Diamond is a little more condensed because people can't fall out of Vanquisher, and as others mentioned there's a big skill spread within Vanq as well.
>>566961336 Quite. But it's also normal to not really improve past a certain point if you don't put effort specifically into improving. I mostly play eff gees to pass time or chill so with also around two thousand hours I'm not much better, peaked at staying int he 1600s range and after coming back I've been stuck for this patch I've just been stuck in the 1500s
...can JR aba make you block something, untransform, and still be plus, or did I just mistime my button horribly and get hit my some mega fake gay shit?
>BP can't be purchased on Steam yet >no progress for playing matches; weekly / dailys only >pass is only for ~40 days not the rest of the season like it seemed it would be I've seen some people say it's the same as GB but man that's a let down.
Did they give Fujin some improved anti-air capabilities or something? Like 3 times this guy CH me as he visibly phased through my j.S, and I don't know if it was the lag, the rollback, or Anji bullshit
>>566961336 i went to my first local a few years ago cuz I thought celestial meant something and got absolutely shitcanned. like a training dummy that bursted once randomly. fightan gamers are nuts
>>566959520 I've always fucking known that not being able to super is what's holding me back and that getting a third of my opponent's health with a get out of jail free card is the difference maker because my opponents bought good controllers
>>566965327 cause its spooky that's the reason xhe's always had weird voice filters you can say it's because in lore zhe's supposed to be a stupidly powerful gear second to justice, and as part of xhis bit of transcending past humanity, but the real reason is just that xhe was a boss character that they wanted to sound spooky
why didn't Ky teach any of his children how to kickflip yeah sure they have overheads, but they can't chase an air backdash all the way to the dark side of the moon
>>566970974 Wasn't a joke. If you're only diamond 3, you need all the buffs you can get. Best advice would be to give up and do something else if you can't dope.
>>566972429 For every tourney, there are tons of bracket cheerleaders You too can participate in the winner of the tourneys journey regardless of your skill
man i'm really tired of this preachy find your own way message gg is pushing. Like i agree, it's good but can we please move to something else and develop an actual story?
>get to the 1585~1590 range >get matched against someone over 1750 this has happened 3 times in a row I just want to get rid of the basic badge before calling it a day...
>>566974873 You grind the battlepass by playing online. It's part of the free rewards so no need to buy the premium plus plus. OR just watch it on youtube.
I remember quite well that about 3 years ago when Snake Eyez won Texas Showdown, Potemkin was widely considered a bottom 5 character. With 2.0 and the previous patch Potemkin got no joke about 20 nerfs, yet hes still actually one of the better characters in the game, maybe even top 10 currently. How was old Potemkin so bad compared to now?
>>566977103 it's just implications and teasing, same shit we already had before, cry about it when they show the two actually fucking or something (they won't) (actually they might, them having done that is kinda the whole reason Sin and Unika exist...)
>>566977103 shackling bridget to unika is the only way they could consider keeping him relevant to the story so they now have an excuse to use him more going forward
i have a flaw: i never use throws defensively. Only for pressure. Not even on wakeup but i guess that's ok cause no one misses meaty at higher ranks. Defensively i'm too afraid of whiffing it, even more now without prc. How do i fix this? When it's ok to use it?
I feel like the game itself might be lowkey set to call Unika players monkeys. I've noticed my Technique rating with her after any match is always pretty low, even if I convert everything and only optimals. Maybe it's the game's way of calling the character braindead... My other theory is that it counts whiffed 6Hs against the rating.
>>566978541 bfs doesn't insult arcsys, just random troons. The message is in japanese and i saw a jap guy insulting miyauchi calling him a drunken bastard multiple times, guess it's that
>>566977165 he didnt have heat tackle so he didn't have combos from lights or oki from a simple confirm 5h didn't hkd garuda wasn't a projectile flick actually lost to a few projectiles and the hurtbox was way bigger 5p whiffed on crouchers and 2p was slower overall, his neutral was worse, and winning neutral very rarely let him into winning situation
>>566981097 Who are the best "effort to success" ratio characters? Meaning who can someone play and get carried to vanquisher with and perhaps even stay around 1500-1600?
>be high gold >get on for some morning matches >Bridget >Axl >Elpelt >Elphelt >Axl Are these just the hardstuck gold characters you have to fight through to get to Plat?
>stuck at low DR with my secondary >peaking at low 1500s, going as low as 1360 on a bad day >decide to work on my fundies, improve my neutral, and iron out my bad habits >after over a thousand matches, finally succeed and... get hardstuck in 1600s just like with my main >my defense is trash and I'm free points if any mixup character wins neutral once I think it's over for me, I just do not have the reaction speed to defend well, or the smarts to map out every option of every character to turn it into a math game
I only ever play versus with my real life friends, or mash in lobbies with people I've known for years, if not decades. Do I even play the game in a way that would let me unlock the battle pass rewards?
>>566994003 Can't you just use your fake digital money to buy them battle pass content, or do you actually have to play games? I've never done a battle pass.
>>566994003 if you do it once a week at least then maybe, but if you play very, very casually, do you even care about the battle pass rewards? if you don't pay the only two worth noting are a UI skin, and a skin that gives Sol his Order-Sol weapon
>>566996070 You're supposed to have the gene and be able to distinguish between the voice clips of "Totsugeki" and "Totsugekiii" and then punish fast enough after doing that also you literally just fucking die if you do it on the wrong "Totsugeki"
>>567002004 hmmmnyes, very true, but you neglected to mention the difference between "irukasan" and "IRUKA-SAAAAAAAAAAAAANNN" so I can't help but question your expertise here.
Someone give me a character to play in Strive, I came back for 2.0 after not playing for years and have not clicked with my usual characters (Pot and Sin). I have the base game and season 1 and 2 DLC.
>>566930451 >guess i could do the Granblue thing and make them cost 50 tension, with a 25 gain on hit, but then what would be the point of spending an overdrive over and EX move? this was actually an issue ArcSoy ran into during the first grub beta. it's why they made SBAs and SSBAs interact with the BP system the +25% refund works better in Granblue because you can evade ultimate skills, so the 50% is just gone. you could experiment with IB or IBFD negating the refund I'm just impressed you actually realised that was a problem on your own
>>567005803 Well you just barely missed the patch where Pot was uncontested Top 1, but he's still pretty great and pretty fun, though his Axl matchup is absolutely miserable now.
>>567006168 i've been reviewing a lot of games with EX moves recently and the common trend I see is that they get prioritized over supers, or other system mechanics. not only for their utility but for their cheap cost too. but i don't like that they're mostly 25% combo gates to give specials any form of utlity. I'm trying to find a balance where one system mechanic doesn't overshadow the other. the main idea is giving supers more combo utility outside of damage, and making the EX moves more like unique actions, so you can do something actually different, instead of direct upgrades of existing moves
persona actually does the refund thing too, and it works well with rc, but it's still the "issue" that i don't understand of the meter cost being so minor that the move should just work that way in the first place.
>>566930451 Are you really looking at the game shoving meter down your throat for existing, the game's damage being balanced on a razor's edge of becoming a ToDer, and thinking "Hmm, EXs are the problem"
>>567013994 not intentionally. but the idea of having always spend 25 meter just for a move to function properly is kind of lame, when the move could work like that normally, and it could be spent on something else.
what characters have the easiest combos in type lumina or aacc? I just want to play the game but I cant even do these long ass bnbs in training and last time I played I just used autocombos
>>567024518 >TL Shiki, Saber >MBAACC Full Moon Aoko is super easy and also very strong. There are other easy characters but they are nowhere near as strong so don't bother with them.
So why exactly did they change the frame data on 6Ps to normalize them yet still have some that are stubby and short while others can knock down a fly on the other side of the globe
just got reminded zoners still are in fighting games sad! genuine question, why the fuck are zoners still in fighting games decades later? i thought we established that they are just the singleplayer niche
>>567041750 They exist so you can get the unique satisfaction of beating a zoner player and calling them a faggot afterwards You can call any player a faggot, but it doesn't hit quite the same unless it's a zoner
>>567039163 >>567039210 >>567039291 >>567039383 isn't that shit giga vestigial? I particularly always found it odd. from when I was a newb to 300 hours later, to me it's still weird, to not straight up call it a shit mechanic like Stagger it's weird in +r too, but I don't actually know jack shit about that game so I can't talk about it. it has a corny mspaint starry sky background
>>567044206 it is a holdover mechanic from older games but it serves a bigger purpose in strive actually. The screen transition knockdown from finishing a homing dust combo is actually plus unlike meterless wallbreak. If you block a DP or super, using charged dust to punish can be optimal.
