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/tcg/ Trading Card Game General & /tcc/ - Trading Card Collector's General 02/28/26(Sat)02:53:40 No.58982271
/tcg/ Trading Card Game General & /tcc/ - Trading Card Collector's General 02/28/26(Sat)02:53:40 No.58982271
/tcg/ Trading Card Game General & /tcc/ - Trading Card Collector's General Anonymous 02/28/26(Sat)02:53:40 No.58982271 [Reply]▶
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Temporary Truce Edition
>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.
>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.
>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417
Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
Rotation:
March 26th for online and April 10th for physical.
https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/2026-pokemon-tcg-standard-form at-rotation-announcement
/tcc/ FAQ:
https://pastebin.com/MypNBzca
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Since neither thread could manage to stay on the board we're going to try this for a thread or two until everything settles down.
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Playing this tomorrow at an ASC legal tournament, winner gets an ETB. Thoughts?
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>>58982472
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz5vu1TwuNk
They only mentioned the card game as a whole, so if it effects live at all, it'll probably just be because it also effects physical cards.
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>>58982513
I would remove a Poke Pad and a Rocket Factory to replace it woth 2 Hildas.
You are already using a Fezandipiti to draw cards so Ariana is only half as efective, you may as well just use a Hilda to find the Honcho and the energy it needs.
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>>58982759
I've seen 0 lists with Hilda and honestly haven't had a problem finding energies past the first one (no use for a T1 Hilda anyways). I'm not playing Fez until I'm sure it won't fuck me over in the prize trade, and 100% using it after playing Ariana so doesn't ruin the effectiveness.
More interested in knowing if anyone's running Counter Catcher, Pokegears vs Roto-Stick, Ultra Ball, fourth Petrel, fourth Honch...
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>still buying modern
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>>58982793
Japan lists were only playing pokegear in honchcrow prerotation. It might be better than roto stick.
>>58982919
But no one is play expanded
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So its looking like Konami will finally be done rarity raping TCG, these lower rarity overframes are 1 per box. And they straight up look better than the serialized versions with the ugly ass border. While I dont play pokemon tcg, I will probably go back to playing ygo as barrier to entry will be on par with pokemon tcg(if konami doesnt magically change the hit rates for us)
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>still buying vintage
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Does good places for people who are into cards even exist?
- no schizos
- no lame boomers crying about vintage vs modern
- no investorcucks
Just people who collect cards/being excited about that.
This thread was the last place (mostly because i could just shit on boomers without being banned and keep talking about my interests)
What the fuck.
Literally every other place is swarmed by souless investorcucks who just interested in money.
Why are you idiots decided to mix these two threads. People who PLAY tcg and COLLECT tcg are 2 different types.
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>>58985269
oh yeah i completely forgot that the /vp/ is being all about 3 starters lol
>>58985278
Fuck off boomoid trash
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>zero play
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I don't get Live RNG.
First match today, 3 out of my 4 Spidops prized.
Second match, my 3 Protons prized while having only energies and my 2 Mimikyu in the hand.
Third match, starting with only my Lillie's Clefairy and 4 Ariana and some Giovanni.
It's as if it's telling me to change my deck.
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>still grading cards
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I BOUGHT POGEYMAN CARDS!!!
Seriously sucks for you people that don't live in Japan.
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Ignore the doomposters, I welcome our /tcg/ bros and I hope their playing decks are all centered around their waivues
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>>58985790
30 packs?
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Anons what 9" graded card should i buy? i worked hard and want an expensive "kind of grail" card
All three of these choices cost kind of the same.
Honestly i was just 151 starters VS Phantasmal Flames charizard. But my guts tell me to buy 25 Celebration Charizard before it will be too late. I feel like 30th set will make this one unobtainable.
I'm not a rich guy by any means and this huge buy will probably be the only time i will spend on pokemon in 1.5 years
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>>58987760
It's only been 2 days since the ladder reset. Master league is separate from the lower ones.
At the start of the month, master league games are hard to find. At the end of the month, lower league games are hard to find.
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>>58983313
>(if konami doesnt magically change the hit rates for us)
They will like they always have done. TCG product is a fucking scam compared to their OCG counterparts.
>>58984384
Those look more like full art trainers, which 5ban never did.
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>still buying physical
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Today I went to my first card expo and frankly the experience was miserable. Every single card was 2x to 10x what I find online. Everyone talked like they were the wolf of wall street.
Got 2 cheap cards and ran away.
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>>58987780
Phantasmal Flames charizard is very new. You will be safe leaving him for not.
151 is kind of overhyped.
Celebrations char-char will be your best hit. We still don't know what charizard will be in 30 celebrations. After all it's the only way for normies to get the base set char for reasonable price and not completely destroyed.
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>>58987950
>Every single card was 2x to 10x what I find online
We are literally during the hype peak. And it will be like that till we will get the next generation that will scare away those crypto-normies.
I can't wait to syphon all that cheap stuff they will be offloading.
Because first sets of the next generation will be all new pokemon and startes so they will be crying.
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>>58987791
This explains why I had a match with the same person three times in a row.
I kinda felt bad for him because by all means he should have won due to deck compatibility, but he got bricked three times in a row.
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>>58988445
polfags still watch this retard?
Holy fucking kek.
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>>58988705
It's basically an unboxing channel with little background or interest other than desperate gambling cope/covert alcoholism.
And he complains aabout how pokemon used to be better and for kids when he's a grown ass man (who wasn't even a kid in the late 90s) who buys in the thousands of dollars from scalpers and probably got scammed
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>>58988340
I was sceptical but ended up fukcing laughing. It's a good video to be a self-sentient for a while.
Man im so glad im not opening packs anymore...
I'd rather save up and by my "le chase card" instead of go through packs and feel stupid and throw money.
Sure there is a chance to pull a card but it's not worth it. Even if you will pull your card - it will be better to buy singles and not open even a single pack (if you not going for Master Set of course)
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>>58986791
uhh anon are we psychically linked
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>>58988973
i misread this as physically which is also true
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Mail Day!!!
Hi /tcg bros!
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todays pickups
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>>58986234
Value is good for the hobby. Value = more hype = more sales. TPC love the fact that we're in an investing boom nowadays because they're making so much money from primary sales due to people hyping the secondary market.
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I just won a league challenge with Froslass Munkidori. AMA
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>>58988322
We don't know but I doubt they'd announce a celebration for the tcg as a whole and then only do something for pocket. >>58986349 is most likely.
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>>58990618
It is very clearly using the card frames for the main tcg's ex cards.
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Whoever plays Cornerstone with Bravery charm and Munkis are evil.
They also bring a crustle in case the opponent has an abilitiless ex pokémon like Dragapult.
I play Rocket Spidops and had to add a stupid Rocket Kangskhan just to deal with that piece of shit.
The Rocket Honchkrow doesn't have an issue against that deck, but I hate how bricky it is.
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>>58989621
nice gj!
>>58990370
congrats, what were your mus?
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Are these good cards? I haven't collected since 1998-2005. (oldfag). All of the packs with Lucario on them had no holos.
>>58986779
Stay mad, you will never live in Japan.
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>>58991264
I don't understand the rairty system in PTCG anymore. It used to be just a circle, diamond, star and star Holofoil. I hear the drop rate for rare cards now is stupidly high which just makes me hate Nintendo/PC more.
And honestly I'm buying them for the memes and visiting pokemon centers in Shizoka.
I think this is my haul.
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>>58991291
I've never cared about the rarities because I don't collect or pull cards. I just play the game so cards being usable is the first priority, and then after that if there's an artwork I like I'll just get it if I'm going to be using the card enough to warrant it. In any case, the special psychic energy and the Clefable are also playable, though the latter is probably going to settle into being rogue territory.
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>>58991291
Only art rares/AR, special art rares/SAR, and gold cards matter for modern "collecting"/Investing. If you really care about collecting, you should look for the art you like and buy them as singles, but your most expensive card is the mouse/Dedenne at around $5.
Here's mine from two pokemon center etbs, 22 packs + promo cards, which cost me $120 and have a sealed market value of ~$600. I got back ~$300 of raw cards. The Psyduck is the most expensive due to being english, $60, instead of jap, $12.
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>>58991291
The cards up to holo are considered bulk now, as you find a holo/reverse in every pack.
Then you have ex cards, i.e. the bloat to dilute your "hit" chance with 5ban slop coming out of the frame and gay sparkles.
Then you have art rares which are special illustrations of common cards, most collectors chasing good artworks will go for these.
Then you have full arts, another tier of slop where the pokemon is just a full frame render with thick outline and no background. Rarer than AR but generally people don't like them too much.
Then you have special art rares, the big chases, art rares of the ex category. They have texture compared to the regular AR, and the reason no one can have fun anymore is because of this tier of cards.
Then you have other seasonal gimmicks such as gold, rainbow, etc., which are the rarest with ridiculously low pull rates, they fetch good money the first month after release due to scarcity, but then they drop hard because no one really likes them.
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>>58992472
Walmart vultures are the antithesis of hobby collectors. You’re weird and abrasive and no one here likes you. You’re desperate to shit up any place you can.
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>>58991291
>I hear the drop rate for rare cards now is stupidly high
This is a good thing, when Shaymin EX was the best card in format it was $40 for one copy, now the equivalent is around $5. SIRs are kind of the compromise, as they are still really hard to pull and have better art than most cards in the set.
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>>58994127
I know that Teal Mask + Raging Bolt is still good post rotation, I'm just really trying to make this work because it's a fun deck. The consistency is just awful and you're frequently 1 energy short. I There was a City League list that used Naveen that I'm kinda interested in.
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>congrats, what were your mus?
Gardy - I ate his mew alive then a tm devo sealed the deal
Terabox - A couple froslass literally melt all his board in a coupe turns
Grimmsnarl - this one was hard, he got 1 prize left while I had all 6. managed to trap a munki then a snorunt with maractus then pile on each of his munkis with all of mine one by one. Fortunately the Grimms got in tm devo range before he could draw a switch
ZardPult - Budew wars. Fortunately I equipped mine with bravery charm, the rest is history.
Too bad I didn't pull anything noteworthy from the prize etb but eh. They gave me a little trophy so that's very nice.
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>>58993923
>Cropping someone else's screenshot from r/pokeinvesting
Post your honest portfolios
Here is mine (it's price and cards are generic - many non-investing people that started during 2020 pokemon craze have these two cards and ~$2k as their portfolio):
(im still sipping some of Sw/Sh. Honestly i didnt like s/v that much but Mega era is fucking amazing. It's so cool it brought my interest back. Im sure i will add some of these new chase cards. one thing i learned about Pokemon cards is not to go too degenerate with pack openings.
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>>58995221
>1 per turn supporters
counter catcher/unfair stamp/mass card draw without supporters
>limited ability to attach energy
meta is one or zero energy attackers/gardy/crispin
>evolution restrictions
forest of vitality/middle evo draw engine
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>>58995356
I don't think i will sell it either (i never sold anything and don't even know how to open ebay seller account). It's just good to know you own something "rare/expensive".
Like...if i will sell that Giratina sure i gill get those 500-600 bucks (much less than that if you include Ebay taxes as i heard).
but...
But i also will be a man without Giratina card and that would suck much more than having 500 bucks lol!
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>>58995422
>counter catcher
picrel
>unfair stamp
One per deck, can be searched with Petrel, but cannot be put back in the deck because the only card in rotation that can put cards back into deck is Max Rod. (also picrel)
>mass card draw without supporters
No, max card search without supporters which is hard countered by Budew and Frillish/Jellicent.
>zero energy attackers
1-2 energy attackers actually.
>crispin
Suporter
>forest of vitality/middle evo draw engine
Grass isn't meta no matter how much you try, and Dragapullt is going to be S Tier for the next year unless they make an anti-Dragcloak card.
Do I need to elaborate?
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>>58995461
So, you can do everything a supporter can do with other cards, power up all meta attackers in one turn, and evo is not a big deal for meta decks?
then what is this? >>58995221
>limited to 1 per turn supporters, a very limited ability to attach energy, and evolution restrictions.
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Slowly getting all the WOTC Black Star Promos (although I'll never get a Pokemon Center or Lucky Stadium since I won't pay 1k+ for a card
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>non full arts
>non holos
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>>58996588
Bomb single prize attackers and hope you get it off the prizes. Depends on what they have on the bench but generally attackers will give you more value because their supports on the bench will probably stay low hp supports unless it's something like Pigeot. You could scoop I guess but I'd rather grab a prize or two early while trying to stop them from attacking or getting set up with boss/budew and see what my options are in 2 turns instead of scooping immediately.
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>>58996732
He turboblasted and knocked out 2 of my unevolved Tarantoulas, but I had already taken 2 prizes so I only needed 2 more to win.
It was a bit too late for my opponent.
Maybe things could have been different if he had an unfair stamp in his hand.
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Have autists in your area gotten as bad as the ones in mine?
At every target, walmart, costco, or bestbuy restock, there are 10-30 people camping there, waiting for the restocker to arrive. Whenever there is a "surprise" restock discovered, there is at least one person who complains about getting a ticket for going 80 trying to get there in time.
I know all this because they've created a discord for the express purpose of catching restocks. Everybody is trying to get one over on each other. Most shit is bought and sold the next week at card shows for double msrp. Recently, someone made a post in the discord trying to dupe collectors out of their pokepads, playing it off as a goofy collecting challenge they're having with a friend, as if any collector gives a shit about pokepads aside from their sale value. Girl said she wanted to fill a binder faster than a friend, a binder of $9 pokepads. Yea, right.
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hey so i wanna send some of my cards to get graded, i went to gamestop and saw that they can grade my cards for me, but I just have this huge fear of my cards being stolen or damaged by the employees. have any of you guys done it before?
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>>58997887
>I've heard Mega Gyarados Ex is good.
It's not. The attack you care about takes 5 energy which is obviously a lot but it does OHKO anything you hit if you have some damage on you. The problem is getting that damage on you on your own terms on top of the ridiculous energy cost. The deck with the most potential for water right now is probably Frosslass Munkidori but that's not exactly a deck that uses water types as much as it's one that conveniently has access to one and the only reason you would put it in the active is if you're swinging with Mega Frosslass for some reason or you're just using it as a pivot. We're also losing a bunch of water types that were previously playable in approximately 3 weeks so your remaining options are all not good so if you're still wanting to try then you'll probably have to play something rogue like Misty's deck, Palafin, Mega Abomasnow, Mega Feraligatr, Wugtrio (mill), or Greninja I guess but that is Tera Fighting so it's technically not water despite using water energy, but it's also getting a new Greninja to use with it in the near future.
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>>58997980
If you're not sure what to play and don't care for the pokemon then pick something that has a playstyle you like (mill, aggressive decks, decks that are strong once you set up, decks that try to wall your opponent, whatever) and if you'd rather play something with a pokemon you like and gameplay is secondary since the game is relatively simple then here is an image of the JP standard format (minus a random deck that's not legal being misplaced here). There's a few playable decks missing and there will be a few decks coming up since the format is changing but among this list I would say Dragapult, Zoroark, Tera/Ogerpon toolbox, Raging Bolt, Rocket's Mewtwo, Lucario, Grimmsnarl Frosslass, or Grassbox are all fairly approachable for a new players with the first 3 being probably the most nuanced (means little to nothing in this game, for people that aren't retarded) in how you approach matches. Pick nothing with a red line because those are rotating out pretty much entirely as decks. As far as meta goes, Dragapult is going to be BDIF post rotation for a while and it's top 3 right now but the format is pretty healthy even if people are largely tired of Gardevoir and Gholdengo if you find people topping with it on Limitless it's probably going to be fine for you to steal.
Additionally, on Live if you enter PokemonDay2026 you should get a lot of currency and cards, but I don't know when the code expires.
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>>58998037
I should have added this also but among the /tcg/ side of players people are playing Rocket's Mewtwo, Honchkrow, BoltBolt (bad version of Raging Bolt), Frosslass Munkidori, and some other decks I'm surely forgetting and I personally play both Zoroark (the Darmanitan variant) and the Grassbox variant with Arboliva.
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>redeemable until March 5, 2026, at 10 a.m. PST
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That's the same story for a lot of cards. 2019 was the time a lot of millennial boomers crying about muh childhood came back into Pokémon. They didn't care about it at all between 2002-2018, but came back "always having been big fans"and will then go on with a kanto obsession and other genwunner tier shit. Saying this assomeone who stuck around for all the years.
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>>58998255
>They didn't care about it at all between 2002-2018, but came back "always having been big fans"and will then go on with a kanto obsession and other genwunner tier shit
Damn that's literally me frfr. Honestly I just want to try the card game because like everyone else back then I just collected the cards for fun and never even attempted to play the game, also mtg has become pozzed and multiverse crossover trash and modern Yu-Gi-Oh is about as fun a filing taxes.
>>58998135
God I love Marnie. I want to play whatever constitutes as a "Marnie deck", fuck the mons I'm just in it for her. If there's a Kieran deck out there I'd play that too.
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Tried preordering on Target for 10 minutes and couldn't Place Order. This shit is so fucked, really thinking about selling my entire collection soon and just being done with this shit
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>10 minutes
took me 23 minutes
>>58997980
Live gives free decks so try them out. There are a few tech cards to add to not be cheesed, but they are mostly fine.
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>>58998414
Why do you need so many?
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>>58982271
Why these are not cheap if you live in europe?
every american showing them for like 1-2 bucks.
In EU these ex cards usually would cost you 5-10 euros.
What the fuck.
i want to make a whole binder page of these charizards but why such a simple card is so expensive for an EX???
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>>58998676
Low supply. Europe has a lot of KANTOOOOOOOOOO loving genwunners.
The UK is particularly bad for this. For example, you're lucky if you find a supermarket equivalent to Walmart have more than a box of mini-tins. A single American supermarket can conceivably have more stock than every big box store within an hour's drive. Then you throw in 40-year-old genwunners and their children who only care about shit like CHARIZAAAAARD and you get all the makings for stupidly high prices for cards.
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>>58998699
>It's not that.
Everybody i see cards are much, MUCH cheaper.
In youtube reviews.
In pokemon card apps. Like - open Collectr. It always showing lowest of the lows.
Yeah try to find any cards for that price. And don't forget about shipping cost.
So every time i see anybody saying "uhh that's like $5 bucks card" - you can pretty much add another 5 to that and probably 3-5 bucks for shipping so it will be 10+ bucks.
>>58998698
Mega Charizard X is from Pokemon X/Y which is Kalos not Kanto.
And he's much better than orange tiny charizard.
Phantasmal Flames is the best set ever!!!
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>>58998722
It's because it's Charizard, regardless. People don't care where it's from in-universe. It could be the Giganigger Charizard from a new region, and people would still KANTOOOOOOOOOO about it.
>>58998727
Dog shit. There is no quick and easy acceleration and retrieval of fire energies at the moment. I tried to use it in a Charizard ex deck, since that can accelerate energies on being played, but it barely works as an early game attacker, once. Then slows you down for the late game. Charizard ex is just a better card.
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>>58998727
It's got the tools to be playable with Firebreather, Oricorio, Energy Recycler/Retrieval, but like with every Charizard variant it has trouble finding ways to refresh hands or find certain key cards like said retrievals with Arven rotating out and Dudunsparce isn't good or consistent enough to bridge that gap in the same way that Bibarel for example was. They'll undoubtedly print more support for it or support that inadvertently gets used for the deck because they love shilling the fuck out of Charizard, but you technically CAN play this (and Charizard Y) in the same deck but it's definitely not good enough to be competitive I would say.
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>>58998760
Hmm, Is Mega Gengar ex any good? I'm just trying to piece together my first deck (I did a stupid/silly thing and just bought 100 booster codes and for each set and now have most of the Phantasmal Blaze set in full playsets. Still wating on the other ones to come in digitally.)
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picrelated is so fucked up by scalpers beyond belief.
It's just 2 packs...
Will we get other AH products besdies blisters and ETB?
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>>58998783
Not particularly to be honest. The gimmick is cute I guess but it's not worth using an entire stage 2 line for that is still worth 2 prizes at the end of the day, and Gengar itself isn't strong enough to carry itself as the centerpiece of a deck because it only does, what, 230? For the same investment you could be playing something like Mega Sharpedo (another deck not in a great spot but at least it has a lot more going for it and is very playable) and be swinging for effectively 290-330 each turn.
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>>58999232
I watch thief videos if that counts kek
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/flfn_Ntz2rI
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WgX6DxrmxIY
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>>58998962
This is why playing competitively is the best way to approach this hobby as a collectorfag. Pay the $5 fee, don't be a shitter and you end up with lots of sealed products you can rip, sell or preserve. I got an ETB this way the other day. I didn't got anything to write home about but eh, it's only 5 bucks.
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>>58999465
People slept on the $9 League Battle Decks.
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>the newest yu gi oh cards sell for as high as 2 million yen
Pokemon just had a new idea and TCG collecting is gonna get more cancerous once they include serialized rares too!
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>>58999610
funny enough, this is not a Dark Magician Girl card. pic related is the original form of the card.
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>>58999857
I had a look, and no. They have GagagaGirl and that's it
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Which one of you anons did this?
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TPC actually had a great idea not releasing ascended heroes boxes in the first wave. People will scalp regardless, but the first month is the worst because retards will do anything to be the first to grade the SIRs. Also filters the buyers that are not only stupid enough to buy at scalper prices, but also stupid enough to buy trash with only 2 (two) packs at scalper prices
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>>58998840
>It's just 2 packs...
>>58998853
>My friend had to get one for his "collection" (1 of every sealed Ascended Heroes product). Good thing is that he got it from our LGS which means only 33% higher than MSRP.
The two pack + coin blisters can be weighted so asians and pajeets buying EVERYTHING and weighting them to get the god pack.
Then they selling the most light blisters online.
DO NOT BUY ANY OF THIS PRODUCT ONLINE
i repead!
Don't buy it! This specific product can be easily weighted. The coin has a very specific weight. There is 1 promo card + 2 packs and a blister.
For example tech-stickers can't be weighted because giant sticker messing up the weight.
I REPEAD DON'T GET SCAMMED - any online lot is a weighted blister from some filthy scammer.
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>>59000160
Nips kept the best ones for themselves, no sharing with whaito piggus.
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>>59000363
Arboliva fag get in here. We are so fucking back.
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>>58994514
>Post your honest portfolios
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>>59000605
sure why not
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>>59000605
I don't keep track of that stuff because i'm planning on never selling so all i got is pic related. Not sure how accurate the prices are though
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you fags seriously have a fucking stock price tracker for pokemon cards prices??? the fuck??????
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>>59000700
>you fags seriously have a fucking stock price tracker for pokemon cards prices??? the fuck??????
Yeah i do.
pokemon is for big boys
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why investorcucks talk like AI-bots...
They always using this weird slop-buzzword language
>LUQUIDITY LONGTERM VALUE. YES SIR! LONG TERM! WHAT IS YOUR NEXT MOVE SIR? HOLD LONG TERM SEALED!
like...who the fuck talks like that
and why they calling each other "sir" most of the time
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Nostalgia
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