You have got to stay motivated even when things are rough.

>>34413744
>>>/soc/

>>34413489
Tell me how i get this one bitch to abandon her miserable life and start living with me instead. She entertained the idea, but is too much of a coward to actually commit to something radical like that.

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>>34413707
Take the schizo meds

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this is what zoomers think of us

>>34389297
I'm back. Had a second date a few days ago and we fucked.

I'm a bit conflicted. I think she's cute but I'm not really feeling anything super crazy and there's a lot of friction (her job schedule is fucked + we're about 2h away from each other), + sometimes while we were talking I did get a little bit of an ick from the way she was complaining about minor family stuff.

Also the sex was pretty terrible, admittedly I was nervous since it's been 4 years for me but she wasn't vocal at all and a bit of a pillow princess.

I'm not sure it's fair to string her along but also this whole process has burnt me out a little bit and it is nice having a way to get your dick wet.

I'm also just confused since even though I've had girlfriends before I've never really "dated" before, nor have I had to reject someone.

Don't really know what advice I'm asking for. I guess would it be crazy to keep talking to her, and maybe tell her a few of the things that bother me and see how she reacts?

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Does it really make a difference if you talk to a girl IRL or online? Some chick I met once years ago goes to some event every week and I was thinking of showing up and flirting with her. Is there any point or should I just follow her on Instagram and DM her? Will it actually make a difference as to whether or not I fuck her?

>>34413985
There wasn't a sign of my post being delusional.

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I WANT TO RUB DOWN A GIRLS THIGHS WHILE SHE WEARS LEGGINGS OMFG I BET IT FEELS AMAZING!!!!

>>34413884
just command her little by little
get her to stay over a night
then get her to stay over two nights
once that becomes regular it hsould be natural

>>34414848
Same here...kinda. I'm 24, almost 25 and literally never touched a woman's skin my whole life (not even my mom because she left when I was like 3) and wanna rub up and down on the freshly shaved/waxed/epilated/lasered/whatever silky smooth and soft legs of a woman wearing short shorts.

I live in a hot and humid climate and see all these girls in tiny short shorts and perfectly smooth legs walking around and it sucks to know that a guy like me will likely never touch the legs of one of those girls. Legs so smooth they literally glow in the sunlight. Glows even more on women with darker skin. Almost feels like they're teasing me saying "you'll never touch these amazing soft legs" whenever I see them in public rubbing lotion or sunscreen on their silky legs or whatever.

I'll definitely take leggings too though. I'm not picky. I just wanna touch a female body period.

>>34413489
>take any random woman who looks acts and/or dresses like the picrel
>OmG yOu ArE nOt mAkInG eYe CoNtAcT wItH mE?! aM i JuSt A sEx ObJeCt To YoU?! dO i HaVe To WeAr A tUrTleNeCk BeCaUsE cReEpS lIkE yOu CaN't KeEp iT iN ThEiR PaNts?!
>meanwhile while she's explaining this you can't help but notice she doesn't seem to be wearing a bra either

>>34414594
>>34414884
I'm sorry to hear you were left bro.
Back to the woemn, goddamn yes, I have accidentally touched some at work, even their arm feels so soft, god can only imagine what a thighs feels.

>>34413489
Can someone tell me, based on this, whether she is interested in me:

We are both in accounting and started at the same time. Right when we first saw each other, we locked eyes. I caught her looking at me a few times afterwards. Didn’t think much of it until she started coming up to my work desk, asking me how I am doing, small talk & telling me office drama. Very smiley and bubbly. Still, she’s highly extroverted, and I see her chitchatting with some of the interns a lot, most of them female but some male. She came up to me to ask if I scheduled for the meeting with the supervisor, and I told her no, and she’s like, “don’t worry! It’s not that intimidating… let me tell you how mine went so that you’re prepared.” Again, I cannot say with confirmation that this is interest since I see her going around and striking convos with other people too. I’m the only guy her age on our team who is full-time (everyone else is an intern or a woman). Oh and she almost always says bye to me before she leaves. She says my name and “hope you have a great night/weekend.” She seems to only be doing that to me

I am pretty certain she is single as she said that she has a female friend who comes to her apartment and told me how she is making food for her because we had to work late that night


I talked a bit about starting my own firm, which is my goal, and she seemed really intrigued by that. Her dad is a business owner, and it sounds like she was very influenced by him growing up and told me how she wants to buy a bunch of properties.

>>34415028
She came up to me to me last week, very smiley, started asking me questions about work, why I wasn't in office last week, and then it transitioned over to her hair dye, how she lives alone, whether I have instragam. She was then showing me random shit from her instagram, a page she follows. We spoke about different restaurants in the area... and she was like, "I'm going to put together a list for you of the best places around." Regarding the hair dye: she literally bent down to show me the roots of her hair and was like, "yeah this is my natural color.... it's like the same as yours!" And I said oh haha yeah my sister dyes her hair the exact same way. She then told me to go up to women at the grocery store and start taking notes on their hair to see whether their roots are dyed, and I was like yeah I'll be on the local news for creeper of the week...

My company also advertises birthdays for employees -- she came up to me, said happy birthday, asked me what I will be doing, gave me a bunch of recommendations for restaurants, and she later followed up with me after my b-day to ask where I ended up going and saying that she loves that restaurant and random facts about that restaurant (it is known in the area).

Based on this, is she interested in me? And if so, what is my role here if I am open to dating?

>>34415033
Oh and I told her I am in the process of getting a parking pass for the beach, and she said "oh i know where to get those! And she pulled out her phone and started searching for the building locations to get a pass. She then asked me where I live so she can find the closest location.... and she's like, "Oh do you live by the church? I said oh yeah I am pretty close to that church....and she starts mentioning things about that church

Basically, she comes up to my desk multiple times a week for random chitchat and seems to find any excuse to come over. There were a few work projects that were unrelated to me but I was tagged onto the email for whatever reason.... she knew I wasn't part of the project but was like "omg i saw your name on the project...." Random things like that as an excuse to strike a convo with me

>>34415064
be a chad and just invite her to lunch or dinner after work
she loves you

>>34415064
women are not typically helpful like that to guys they're neutral about

>>34414884
I'm at university of arizona and it's bright enough out you can see the blonde peach fuzz on these vapid whores underbutts and it's hot enough sometimes they leave butt cheek sweat on the chairs. i wish i could be invited to the sorority fuckathons like Chad is

What's the protocol for talking to women at bars? I went for the first time last week and had several women just staring at me for 3 minutes straight so I definitely caught some eyes, but what do I do next?

You all, you got to be peacefully indifferent towards people.

>>34415459
Ask how they are doing
Comment on the current environment (vibes, crowd, music etc)
Move into more personal topics (are you from here?)
Sneak in a compliment to show interest
Ask to go somewhere more private if the convo goes well

I have those cups like the gal in the OP pic is drinking green juice from. They are made in France.

Is it going to be tough dating in a cast? Basically, I’m going to be in a cast or something very similar for the next 6 months. For 2-3 of those months, it’ll be extremely limiting to wear even things like cutting food is going to be tough. Do you think it’ll be tough to get a date?

>>34415459
>What's the protocol for talking to women at bars?

There are entire books on this lol but I think the rule of thumb that you need is to always walk in and approach the first set on your left. Best to instantly break the ice and indicate to everyone in there that you are fun and social.

Tell them that you are celebrating something. Youll start to believe in your own lie and get into a very happy and positive state.

I knew it, women on dating apps all come out of hibernation in the spring. I had 1 biweekly match in the winter months, if that. In this past week I got 10.

If I were in china or thailand, I'd have over 1k matches during the winter, rather than a dozen.

We kinda cuck ourselves, living in the west...

>wake up this morning from a nightmare
>after reeling from it for a minute I look at my phone to try and get my mind off it
>1 new like on hinge with message
>"Anon I see how big and strong you are, you are a force of nature I can appreciate"
>have influx of emotion because I very very seldom get complimented
>look at the account
>trans girl that can bench more than me
AHHHH LIFE IS THE REAL NIGHTMARE!

>>34413991
I’ve only ever told you guys to talk to women. What you do after or with that is not my problem

how do I read whether a girl is feeling me or just wants attention?
>party 3-4 times a month
>very easy to get a group of people congregated around me talking about whatever
>commonly told I'm charming, charismatic
>really enjoy getting to know others and I can tell they feel my energy to some degree
>girls dance on me, make repeated eye contact, ask my friends to introduce them to me, offer their igs when i ask for their friends', etc. so i'm clearly getting /some/ interest
>but try to escalate further or text them the day after and they all "have boyfriends"
how can I tell sooner that i'm being used as validation? I'm not embarrassed by rejection or whatever I just don't like going out for fun and being used as an object for some woman's self-esteem when I'm just out for a good time.

If you are struggling to get results and feel like you are missing something then shifting emotionally is what you need.
Attraction is like energy. You are magnetic to a woman or you are repulsive. The most repulsive feeling you can put out is if you believe you are not enough and you need a girl to feel good. You quite literally look like a beggar to her. What would the opposite look like? Well, you have so many dating options that you don’t need a girl to like you. Since you likely don’t have this plethora of options what is the next best thing? You need to feel like your life is awesome and that you are cool. Women pick up on how you feel about yourself. The issue is that you likely think you need all these things to change before you can feel good. It becomes a struggle then. It feels so hard to get what you want.
This is the shortcut. Train yourself to feel good and feel like you are the man you want to be. Train yourself to feel good now and be relieved now. Then trying to attract girls will be 100x easier. How do you do this? Spend time everyday just sitting there and feeling what is going on inside of you. Without trying to change anything just feel until you get a sense of relief or you feel calm even though nothing has changed yet. This power will amplify your dating results. It’s the core of not being needy.

>>34416187
Don’t care “if they like you or not”. Flip it around. The question is if you like them or not. If you like them then go for it. Since you sound like you have good energy my guess is you have a weak intention, kind of half assing it. When you find a girl you like really make a move on her, in person. That doesn’t mean you need to get physical necessarily but it could. You need to polarize her. Make a move to the point that she either says “fuck yes” or “fuck no”. Don’t beat around the bush, make it happen.

>>34414930
Bro you know these bitches are desperate for attention. That's just them being tsundere by pretending they hate attention from men while at the same time they secretly love it.

>>34416397
LOL that's so true. Women in real life are also complete and total tsunderes.

Unfortunately they're not as nearly as endearing as anime tsunderes though. They're actually extremely annoying and irritating. They're good for a one-night stand but I ain't starting a relationship with a bitch like that.

>>34413489
How would you go about trying something with a girl I see every week in a little tabletop social circle? I have been seeing her for the last 4 weeks, every friday. We play together in a group and shit like that. We talked a bit but nothing major, exhanging small talk and a few jokes. One time she greeted me when I arrived and she offered her phone to play together on a party game. It was a magical moment for my female-starved mind because of her kind gesture and instant closeness.
I guess I have to isolate her somehow, talk a bit and drop the line "hey you are fun, why don't we go for a coffee or something else one of these days?". The problem is I can't see a way of isolating her. it's always in group.
Also I'm 34 and she is 22 lol. Kind of a big age gap but she looks mentally mature, which is one of the reasons she seem interesting to me.

bonus points: she seems to consider me "smart" since she said I always know the answers to trivia questions.

Not a big deal if she rejects me but I would like to try something concrete instead of having regret for not taking action later

>>34416446
they're not nearly as cute as anime tsunderes either. catch them on a day when they don't have 10 layers of makeup on plus without fake tits. even famous celebrities who people think are so hot have turned out to be so ugly on the rare instance they were seen without makeup

>>34416633
Anime tsunderes are not fucking real you fucking mongoloid. And while they are pretty 99% of them suffer from serious same face syndrome and look basically completely the same outside of hair color and eye color and clothes.
Also they would look absolutely horrifying in real life assuming they kept the same eye size and shit.
I'll still take real females any day of the week makeup and fake tits and all.

>>34416583
You sound like a predator, or come across as enough of an autist for an approach to be seen as predatory, and I don't say that lightly. All I'm saying is I wouldn't trust you around my daughter.

>>34416583
Definitely a bit of an age gap.
You could next time she does the phone game, say "whoever loses has to buy the other one coffee later" and see if she giggles and accepts.
Be playful about it.
That's probably your best chance.
Isolating her will just make her feel pressured and you'll get a pity date which will just waste your time and money and emotional energy.

>>34416723
Shut up faggot.

>>34416723

That's a bit of an assumption from just a post, don't you think?

>>34416727
>You could next time she does the phone game, say "whoever loses has to buy the other one coffee later" and see if she giggles and accepts.
Be playful about it.
All the others will hear this though.

>>34416734
>That's a bit of an assumption from just a post, don't you think?
I didn't assume anything. I just think his perspective on the whole thing sounds like something out of a stalker's deposition.

>>34416776
>stalker
>no stalking, no persistent thoughts or fantasies about the person
Nice retard maxxing

Is it mentally ill if me (31) to have my age range cut off be 29?

>>34414848
Bro...these aren't women...

>>34416972
2 people I know are 50 and dated a girl 20 and 25 years younger. Another friend of mine is 42 and is dating a 24 years old girl. If they don't give a fuck why should you? They are not in jail nor shunned in the community.

>girl asked if I voted for Trump
lel

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Is it actually possible to find white women that want to have children outside of churches? I've been having better luck with finding matches on apps that turn into dates lately, but everyone seems to be hostile towards the idea of having kids before I even bring it up.

30 y/o, said women are around my age

>>34417008
You need to find Christ first brother

I am most certainly autistic, especially with women so may you help me out on this
>workout at the gym
>get near a machine and this girl in the machine next to it looks at me briefly
>see her looking in my direction a few times
>one time i see her looking at the mirror, when i look at her she glances away
>later we are both on benches, she looks again in my direction, i think i even saw her smiling a bit
>i ask her for a grip to do lat pulldowns, she tells me she's got 2 sets left, i say i can wait and blabla but i think i saw her face light up a bit
>after this she goes to the treadmill which is on the other side of the machines, and her ass is in full view from my position
do you think this is enough proof she might be interested in me? what excuse can i find to start talking to her?

Apps don’t work for average men, women no longer want to be approached in public, work is a no go, the gym is a no go, friends of friends are all taken.
I don't know anons, where do you actually meet women?

>>34413489
I wanna be shrunken down to size of an ant and just literally absolutely dive into her cleavage. If she's too much of a dumb blonde to notice I can stay there all day. If it's summer and her boobs get sweaty and stinky no problem either because it's not just any sweat it's BOOB™ SWEAT™ so it gets a pass.

>>34416258
I see. I agree I struggle with closing. Or, at least, I ought to be more upfront with my attraction. Idk, every time I see a pair up it happens pretty quickly/quietly, so I don't really have a read for what works and what wouldn't. Any tips?
>That doesn't mean you need to get physical necessarily but it could
Yeah, being on the shorter side I don't get the impression I have the same presence as most guys who get this far. So I feel like I just end up treading a line between genuine interest and her entertainment (assuming these are separate and that the latter has a lower bar for entry than the former), which is where I think I've been getting caught up, regarding
>Don't care "if they like you or not"
It's not so much that I need their validation to pursue so much as it is "damn am I even playing the game I want?"
Feels like you get sorted upon first glance, and guys who serially approach are very obvious and 90% of the time written off as slimy, so it's not like I can just try everyone, so I guess my question is more
>how do I identify my actual prospects and address them accordingly, rather than wasting attempts on someone who doesn't see me as an option at all?

>>34416187
First of all, if they are dancing on you but have boyfriends, are these the type of women you even want to date? I hope not.

Secondly, it seems more like you just aren't seizing the opportunity. You say you try to escalate the day after, that is a day too late. The moment is gone and they are no longer in that vibe. As the other anon said, you need to polarize them to make them, in the moment either go, "Fuck yes" or "Fuck no".

Thirdly, if they truly all do have boyfriends but comfortable enough to dance on you, something about you makes them feel like you are absolutely zero threat. They either think you're gay or something. I don't go to parties but if I had a girl dancing up on me, I'm going to assume she is attracted to me and make a move, not wait until tomorrow.

Fourthly, I would just treat all of these party girls as fuck material only. Once you get that in your head, you no longer care about treating them "nicely". You make your bold move, if they reject you, fuck them, don't give them attention and try again with the next girl.

>>34417408
> "damn am I even playing the game I want?
No, you aren't.

If a woman is dancing on you, make your move, get physical and get intimate. Remember, these are party girls, not girlfriend material. You need to put them in the position to reject or accept you right there. These women live for the "moment" hence why the next day that moment is gone.

Would you rather be the attractive slimy guy who has woman dancing on him who gets laid or the attractive guy that is too scared to make a move and gets friend zoned the next day?

Guys I can't fucking tell anymore.
>She wants to play Pool with me
>She told me about her age, her activeness, how "boring" she thinks she is, etc
>I talked about books with her
>We talk a lot on our numbers
>I told her my dreams and she told me her thing
>We both enjoy the Desert, but she also loves the Tundra
>She offered 2 arms raised high for a hug but relented to 1 arm
>She's a manager
Does any of this mean she's into me or am I delusional?

I should note this has been happening since the day I was hired. There were little things, but we'd be here all day if we go beyond just this list.

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>>34413489
Milk for smoothie

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>>34417138
>women no longer want to be approached in public, work is a no go, the gym is a no go

I want to get laid with my cousins ex wife. She canceled last minute on the last 4 times we were gonna hang out.

>>34417082
Yes
Just say hi

>>34417317
not sure if this is retarded or genius or creepy or relatable or creative or psychopathic

>>34413707
You pay the woman in your photo anon. Hooker hoops never lie, despite your naive pop-punk desires.

im a virgin but i'd never considered myself fucked in the past, I'm generally not too autistic to talk to women, until I realized im bottom 8% in dick size. Do I have any chance?

>>34417760
yeah bro literally like 50 god damn percent of women don't care about dick size. I have a big one so I find this annoying but its real. You might run into one that does and it will be very hard to not let it affect your self confidence and shit. But if you can do that im sure you will find one of those proto-lesbians who only cum from clittoral stimulation and don't watch porn

>>34417578
>First of all, if they are dancing on you but have boyfriends, are these the type of women you even want to date? I hope not.
Don't want to date them, but lots of women in my circles are in open relationships/situationships/whatever noncommittal brain bleed that's going around so a hookup isn't exactly out of the question
>Secondly, it seems more like you just aren't seizing the opportunity. You say you try to escalate the day after, that is a day too late. The moment is gone and they are no longer in that vibe. As the other anon said, you need to polarize them to make them, in the moment either go, "Fuck yes" or "Fuck no".
Understood.
>Thirdly, if they truly all do have boyfriends but comfortable enough to dance on you, something about you makes them feel like you are absolutely zero threat. They either think you're gay or something.
I seriously think they just want attention w/o the commitment to anything more. I can think of more than one occasion where the girl's been on me, head turned to look at me and smile, and I've put my hands on her hips and lean in only for her to move away after a second or two. I may be retarded, sure, but that's where my confusion lies.
>Would you rather be the attractive slimy guy who has woman dancing on him who gets laid or the attractive guy that is too scared to make a move and gets friend zoned the next day?
Ideally I want to be less socially retarded and afraid of the negative consequences that potentially come with treating lukewarm attention as a green flag.
This is less about the women dancing up on me (minority of interactions) and more about the girls giving me eye contact from across the room. Most women give you absolutely fucking nothing as far as escalation is concerned and I don't know how to read that shit other than "ooh pretty girl give me attention lemme fuck". If that's all I need, and I just need to keep doing it to build my calluses, that's what I want to hear.

>>34417769
i see. thank you for your wisdom anon. I guess I'd always just previously thought that I was doing fine and had no idea what a low percentile i was even in lmao. And I'm now having to accept that I will forever not be able to even buy condoms from a gas station but be forced to buy small versions on amazon

>>34416258
>You need to polarize her. Make a move to the point that she either says “fuck yes” or “fuck no”
What do I say to her? If it's like 1am and we're leaving the bar and I don't have my own place, is it a bit much to ask for anything more than her number to meet on a different day? I'm new to picking up women and for the first time in my life, I'm getting the attention of strangers

>>34417787
Obviously women love free attention without providing anything in return. The simple solution is that as soon as they start trying to dance on you, just turn around and give them no time. Rejection in my opinion is a stronger feeling that attention for women. Receiving attention feels amazing, but getting rejected (as a woman) is devasting to their ego.

Despite being pretty successful with women, I still struggle with escalating and the fear of pushing too far. However, that fear is only when being intimate. For example, there have been at least 6 times where I've had a woman in my bed with only underwear on. Their ages ranged from 19-35. They all said either "I don't want to have sex" or "I just want to kiss". On one hand they are basically naked and wet on my bed but on the other they say they don't want sex. What do I do? Option 1) Be more aggressive, pull their underwear off despite what they say or 2) Continue kissing and listen to what they say. I'm too old to be playing these "I'm saying no but deep down I want you to take me" games. I'm not risking a case. These days if a woman is naked in my bed and says she doesn't want to have sex, I just wrap it up and send them home. No games.

In your case, if you see a woman eyeing you across the room, you just need to go up to them, flirt and try to leave the location to a quieter place. 9/10 it will always be on you to escalate, which you do in steps.

Approach
Flirt
Leave location & isolate
Invite to your place or hers
Escalate more
Sex

>>34415005
nta but i have accidentally felt a bare female thigh before and it was indeed really really soft but unfortunately not a thigh i wanted to be touching...my older sister's thigh. back when i was 14 and she was 17. bare thigh since she was in short shorts. we were on a bus that was crazy crowded with absolutely zero space left and everyone squished up against each other, almost the bus driver even. and while my hand was on my own thigh my hand suddenly slipped and accidentally landed on her thigh and rested there for like 2 or 3 seconds till she turned her head to me and gave me a literal death glare and i very quickly removed my hand from her thigh. it was a very soft female thigh but i wasn't wish it wasn't my sister's of all people. and by the way this isn't supposed to be one of those weird sexy incest stories. it was extremely awkward and not a pleasant memory. i really hope my sister doesn't remember it. we never speak of it. but either way i learned how soft a bare female thigh really is. the worst way but yeah

>>34418123
>and by the way this isn't supposed to be one of those weird sexy incest stories.
I do believe you actually. Especially since like you said it was awkward and unpleasant. It also sounds like it was a moment that lasted only a few seconds rather than some long and drawn out borderline pornographic interactions a lot of fetishists online describe between their siblings.

It didn't sound sexy at all and was more like yikes and secondhand embarrassment, basically the opposite of sexy. That's how I know it's real. Awkward, not sexy.

Going to a bar on friday. How do I approach women and leave with them that night? Just from skimming through the thread, it looks like it's best to make my intentions clear that night rather than getting their number and going on a date sometime later

I wish I had more casual interactions with women in my life. I've always had a hard time interacting with people "I don't have to" interact with. So people outside of class, any function or work. All of which have been 99% men since highschool. Just haven't happened much.
Lately I've been going out to a karaoke bar on my own. Just to see what happens and have fun singing for a bit, maybe switch bars later. The last four times, five women have approached me of all people. Every time I scare them away by being excruciatingly bad at socialising like a normal human being.
Sure, it shows there's more potential than I ever thought. Just can't follow through properly.
Which leads to the same question >>34413744 asks. Where the fuck do you have those casual learning moments without the tension of flirting at a bar.

>>34418580
keep doing what you're doing
one girl a week is not bad numbers

but reality is dating apps is probably the only way
accepting the fat chicks and old girls purely for volume and practice

>>34414851
She's too far from me for that. It's either all or nothing.

>>34417619
your argument being?

This thread being slow and dead as fuck is the proof that barely anyone is meeting women and having sex anymore.

>>34418938
>dying site has dying threads
>this must mean nobody is fucking
incredible analysis, anon.

>>34415962
Your JBW is doing the heavy lifting

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Holy shit, this line gave me a fucking epiphany. It called me the fuck out. I am exactly like this. Since reading that I've started telling myself "every decision I make is the right decision" and it's improving my confidence

>>34415005
police woman touched me when she was giving me a ticket, sha had very pleasant skin, I am considering commiting more crimes hoping that female officer will arrest me

>>34414884
>>34415005
>>34419912
Friend of mine likes to hold my hand sometimes, hers is so soft and complimentary is honestly gets me kinda hard

>>34418527
women are evil in the same sense that babies are evil. Which is not at all. Its in their nature to be selfish, to lie to get their way, to manipulate and betray. But I don't really see that as evil I just think that women are half way between men and children. If you hold them to the standard of men you will of course be disappointed.

>>34415908
>infinite conversation starter
>"wow where'd you get that from"
>can get signatures and numbers and anything written on it
Blessing in disguise my man. If they want you they'll cut your steak or whatever lol just be chill with it

>>34415908
>>34419980
agreed. I would go so far as to say that it would be fun to split test going out with a fake cast and see if you have more luck than normal with it

>>34419740
The capchas are currently the easiest they've ever been.

>which one is not like the others?
>x3
>post

>>34420251
its easy on PC but when its too hard when phone posting

>>34419912
Okay It's official. This has to be the saddest male on the planet. A guy so starved for affection from females that he'll commit crimes just so he can feel the skin of the female police officer while she arrests him.

If you end up in jail or prison from doing so much stupid shit to get arrested just know that the only skin you'll be feeling will be the skin of other males.

>>34420318
Ah, I wouldn't know.
I've only ever browsed this website from my PC.

>>34419780
kek do you recognize my writing?

>>34419917
Oh that reminds me. I have this really unique and specific dynamic with my best friend's mom where she's a really hot young mom, had my friend at 16 years old, when I first met her at 5 years old she was 21 at the time. She literally looked like a teen. She was happy me and her son was such good friends and we would spend a lot of time together just the three of us. And she was just an angel. Always holding our hands, hugging us, kissing out foreheads, etc. She treated me almost like a second son. These days as an adult she surprisingly still treats me the same way. She never stopped. She's the only woman I still have contact with. I'm 28 and she's 44 and she looks amazing, barely older than me actually. She likes to hold my hand and comfort me because she knows I often get anxiety. And I highly doubt she notices but she's secretly turning me on. She herself never does or says anything sexual or even wear revealing clothing. She's just a super nice super young mom. Her hand is so soft it turns me on. Really good skincare routine as mentioned by her.

>>34420620
Fucking lucky fucking son of a bitch.

I'm at the point where I don't even care about sex I just wanna hold hands and be hugged and you lucked out at that at 5 years old by pure coincidence of having a best friend with a mom like that who still cares about you even as an adult meanwhile I'm older than you are and no woman has ever wanted to touch me.

Fucking lucky fucking bastard.

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Always remember, it could be worse.

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Turbovirgin here, and I just got my first ever date. I've been getting along great with this girl at work and at the end of the day today I asked her if she wanted to go for a walk on a local trail and get dinner afterwards on Saturday. She looked so happy when she said yes, I don't think I'll ever forget it.

But what's the play from here? I can be good company for dinner and a walk but I have zero concept of what escalating things any further looks like. Should I try to hold her hand? Should I kiss her or let her initiate it? Will it be immediately obvious I've never kissed a girl before? I highly doubt she will but if she tries to escalate it further and I end up out of my depth how do I back out without seeming like I'm just not interested in her? I'm nervous as fuck lads, I really want this to go well.

I'm 19 and she's 18 if it matters. I'll be picking her up since she doesn't have a drivers' license.

>>34420505
Honestly not really lmfao, but how confidently you said you'd get 1k matches in all the asian countries is quite implicative

>>34420753
Woah woah woah slow your role, does SHE know it's a date? trail and dinner can easily be a hangout, I've had dinners with female friends dozens of times

Getting blowjobs is about 100 times more arousing for me than any other type of sex. I just get bored and semi flaccid when fucking a pussy, especially since condoms kill most of the feeling anyway. Am I broken

How do you people do this when the current culture is completely against approaching women?

>>34420780
>does SHE know it's a date

Yeah. Someone even told me she was bragging to the other girls in her department about it.

>>34420864
Ok good, that is usually a blindsiding question but you've got it figured out, which means you're already in better standing than you think.

Sadly, your struggle is also my own, I've got a debilitative fear of escalation cause I'm terrified of creeping the girl out. Hopefully someone else can help

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>>34420879
>ask /htgwg/ how to get women
>they don't know either

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>>34420884
Ultimately, you're still on 4chan, buddy.

>>34420826
That "culture" is there to filter out idiots like you

>>34420820
Have sex without condoms? Idk man

I'm the complete opposite because I feel like most women are really bad a blowjobs and sex feels good because I never use condoms. If they do ask me to use condoms I will but if I'm going to see them more than once I make it clear I won't continue using them.

>>34420956
How do you get over the fear of getting babytrapped? I will only rawdog someone I've personally seen taking birth control

>>34420884
Basically it's like in Souls-like games where you just get a little better each round, and sometimes you get lucky or can pull off cheese for an easier victory.

>>34421090
>>34420884

>>34421071
See this is the issue I don't get. I've had sex with over 100 different women without protection and have never had pregnancy scare. The reason is because I simply do not cum anywhere near their vagina. You have to be retarded to actually get a woman pregnant without a condom.

You'd be surprised how many men will cum on or around the vagina or simply just have terrible pull-out game and then wonder how that hookup or their girlfriend got pregnant. You pull out and nut on their chest, their face or in their mouth. Nowhere else. I personally like nutting on their face or straight in their mouth. That way you know you didn't accidentally get any nut anywhere else.

>precum has sperm in it
If that were the case, all of my semi to long-term girls I've been with would have definitely gotten pregnant.

Have I busted in girls that weren't on some form a BC? Yes. We then took a trip over to CVS and got a pill. Now, I will say that sure, they could have "Trapped" me but I knew these girls well enough to know they wouldn't.

>>34421209
The reason you don't get it is because you're assuming guys in the how to get women general have had unprotected sex with over 100 women

>>34421347
It doesn't really matter if it's your first time or 100th time... It's simply common sense.

Cum in vagina = bad
Cum around vagina - bad
Solution = don't cum anywhere near the vagina

I could understand if they were like 12-15 and didn't really understand sex, sperm and vaginas. When I was in 7th grade I remember that there were 8 girls that got pregnant during that year.

>>34421526
When I was in 8th grade I started masturbating

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>>34421556
Chad has been fucking ever since, many rack in hundreds by the time they are 30. Thanks for playing.

>>34421556
I totally get it man, I didn't start jerking off until randomly sometime in 7th grade. I didn't even lose my virginity until I was 24.

What I do know is there were definitely a lot of kids fucking in 7th and 8th grade and the ones that were, were usually the popular kids of each ethnicity. I will say that one of my biggest regrets in life was not participating when I was that age. Instead of I was too busy watching Anime, playing Runescape and going to YUGIOH local tournaments.

>>34421634
I don't really understand this. You regret being part of a culture instead of having sex like some unrestrained animal? Do you not understand how absurd that is? Sex is probably the most ubiquitous and mundane thing in this world. There are billions of human beings meaning the act literally occurs every passing second somewhere out there. Yet culture is not as unique. There are really things in the world that you will only have a very narrow window of opportunity to experience. That's what you should feel regretful over (if you posessed a soul) not sex, which as explained before, is utterly and completely mundane.

>>34421716
Yes, I regret missing out on the stupid, naive and probably exhilarating feeling of young love. I had my first "GF" in 5th grade, my first kiss in 6th but nothing from that point on until I was 24. I'd do almost anything to go back to when I started 6th grade and to have the opportunity to experience my childhood from an entirely different perspective.

I'm sorry you don't enjoy sex.

>>34421741
>I'd do almost anything to go back to when I started 6th
So you want to hang out with 11 year olds

>try to improve myself a little everyday but still the feeling of loneliness drags me down leading me to make decisions that bring me a step back
How do I stay resolute bros... Ive been lifting weights, reading a lot, and abstaining from alcohol but the fucking void in me keeps taking away from me any ground I gain. Like fuck I've gotten better at mindfulness but the second I realize how lonely I am it shocks me with a mental anguish that is hard to recover from. Its like my head is just barely breaking above the surface as I struggle to keep treading.

>>34421759
When you start to feel lonely, replace those feelings with feelings of self love. You’re taking care of yourself and working hard to improve yourself, that’s a great start and the more you can tell yourself that, the faster you’ll be able to form deep connections.

>>34421757
I'm sorry that you're also retarded.

>>34421822
That's what you said. You want to be 11 again and hang out with 11 year olds.

A long interaction today reaffirmed a few beliefs of mine:
>getting women isn't about creating attraction where it doesn't exist, but refraining from sabotaging it where it does
>many times, being aloof and straight up ignoring a lady's shit tests is waaaay better than being banter-y and, by extension, overreactive
>even stone-cold sober women with dainty little flower personalities in a professional setting can aggressively escalate physically when you give them the space to do so
>you can be pretty fucked up looking and still attract women if you do everything i just said correctly

>>34421759
I'm going through a similar thing. I quit coffee to try and get better sleep. I have been having panic attacks at night (not those cold sweat, heart beating, shortness of breath ones. Just pure mental agony, maybe similar to mental illness levels, idk). I am making good progress but I still get these

I think the loneliness is the worst

I chat with women online who are way below my looks/spirit match, refuel on socializing, and ditch them

I don't want to fuck over a woman looking for a serious relationship, and I don't want to fuck a disgusting, soulless, mindless women either.

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>>34413489
bros, how is it to have a chubby girl friend?
most chubby girls i met in real life are annoyingly extroverted, the "laughing too loud"-kind
is it just how they are or are most of them more pleasant and im just unlucky this far?

>>34422462
They can put a lot of effort into behaving in a manner that *they believe* is attractive to men. If that happens to align with what you find attractive, then it's fun. If it doesn't, then it's fucking annoying. But the effort is nice i guess compared to gassed up mids

I've had a lot of luck on Hinge. FB dating is even pretty good.

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How do I use dick size to my advantage?
I have an 8 inch dick but I don't think it's socially acceptable to go around saying I have one.
Or is it useless?

>>34422512
Comport yourself like a guy with an 8 inch dick

>>34421209
I want you to explain your process, why aren't you helping out anons like >>34420879 and >>34420753 who have escalation problems?

>>34420879
>I've got a debilitative fear of escalation cause I'm terrified of creeping the girl out
That's a perfectly reasonable fear. The idea of escalating physically with a woman when you haven't been able to see clear IOIs is something that SHOULD wig you out. The solution is continuing to socialize with women generally until you start to learn what those IOIs look like if you don't know already, and get better at detecting them earlier when they exist. From there it's a matter of keeping cool and remaining confident until she's all but begging to be touched/kissed/carried off to your room and fucked: she will make this extremely clear if you've done it right.

>>34422562
Sounds solid, what are some IOI examples, cause I've misread kindness for interest before

I'll say this again. It does not matter how good your game is, but at the end of the day she has to decide whether she sees you as a monster or a human being. You must take full responsibility for this and not cower away. If you cower away and whine about it you are not the man in the situation but an entitled kid afraid of the real world.

>>34422566
The usual: her gaze bouncing around your face when you look her in the eye, playing with her hair, pointing her feet at you, etc. And obviously being touchier than she needs to be for a given social context. Lurking/following you around. Yapping your ear off is ambiguous in my experience.
Here's a trvthnvke for you: shit tests are IOIs. A lady who's really attracted to you will often start being petulant, prickly, hitting you with weird little digs that hardly make sense. If you respond to these with either indifference or bullying back (not just teasing, but snapping back with something ~10% meaner and saying it with your full chest and not laughing to break the tension), she will get wetter than whale piss for you instantly.

Pay close attention for milder versions of all these. If a lady has truly never acted like this around you, and you're not deformed or obese, you probably comport yourself in a feminine manner, you're too reactive and clowny, etc. In my opinion, the true source of "masculine demeanor" is literally just being latently fed up with women's nonsense and letting it show through your words and actions lol. That's why some losers fuck like warlords, they genuinely dislike women, they recognize the mechanical, state machine-like nature of the female libido and make no bones about using them as fuckholes. Hope this helps

>>34414848
It doesn't just feel amazing, it smells amazing too

>>34422578
>If you respond to these with either indifference or bullying back (not just teasing, but snapping back with something ~10% meaner and saying it with your full chest and not laughing to break the tension), she will get wetter than whale piss for you instantly.
What the fuck, I was led to believe that would come off as you getting offended and it being a turn off, so I'd always turn it into a joke and turn it back on her

>>34416154
I love this post, sorry that happened my man. Take the tranny's offer my friend, the cock is worth it

>>34422512
Useless. Say your cock is average.

>>34422590
I mean it could I guess, if you genuinely are offended. But if you're not, and you have the same indifferent reaction a tired dad might have to his daughter being whiny, it completely upends her shit and her only possible reaction is to see you as "alpha". This is why women call men they're horny for "daddy". The dynamic is not that dissimilar. In contrast, joking around and relieving the tension of the interaction comes across as conflict-avoidant and therefore feminine/beta. If you're gonna go the jokey banter-y route, you have to escalate the conflict, not defuse it.

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>34422614
>gormless unfuckable retard noises

>>34422603
>In contrast, joking around and relieving the tension of the interaction comes across as conflict-avoidant and therefore feminine/beta. If you're gonna go the jokey banter-y route, you have to escalate the conflict, not defuse it.
This whole fucking time my logic was they'd be like "Ok, he can take a joke and even dish it back, cool" and I've been self sabotaging this whole time. Actually fucking learned something today, thank you.

>>34422619
No sweat my man. I only figured that out after many years of jestermaxxing with poor success, hopefully I've saved you time and pain

>>34422620
I was absolutely jestermaxxxing cause I thought it'd offset my usual, default pissed demenor

>>34422620
Do you have an answer for this as well >>34420753?

>>34422623
>my usual, default pissed demenor
Well that means you're a natural lol, give em hell, literally. Sam hyde is kind of a faggot but he's a very good example of the kind of obstinate, "bitch please throat me to the hilt or go dance in traffic" energy that drives the huzz crazy, watching fishtank clips is unironically a decent way to learn for any softboys lurking lmao
>>34422629
>>34420753
You sound like you're super excited to date her and you probably have a lot of emotional investment in a positive outcome. If you're a turbovirgin, I really don't know how you conjure a decade's worth of knocks to harden your heart and be unreactive the way you'll need to be to not scare her off. Really there's not much I can say or you can do to change how you are at the moment desu. Do your best to detach yourself from the date going how you want and from women's positive attention in general. Realistically you're gonna act like a sugary fuckin sweetheart and end up in the gayboy zone and that's fine. If you can try to stop being like that by the time you're 40, you'll be fine.

give it to me for real. I am 5'3" american, but I am in great shape. I have been told "I see you more as a friend" by more women than I can count. I've tried to just be their friend, I've tried to tell them I have feelings, I've tried dating apps and meeting people in the world. Ive even had my "see you as a friend" women friends suggest I talk to one of their friends, I do, and I always get told the same. I see you as a friend.

All of them have been nice and kind to me. I don't feel like an incel or that I say stupid stuff. They ARE friendly with me even after turning me down and I dont let them run over me and act like a simp. I genuinely think it's my height. Am I fucked?

>>34421716
>You'd rather have sex than play card games?

>>34422641
>Well that means you're a natural lol, give em hell, literally
Always held back due to fear of losing people, but I've been working on changing my mindset about that. I'm afraid of what I deem not so bad, is actually like a stab wound to the girl, because every time I insult someone with something I consider light, at least one person that can hear it starts acting like I verbally killed them, it happens every fucking time so I began surpressing the asshole inside lmfao

Anyone who puts too much value in red flags is not worth your time. There comes a point where she needs to accept you for being human, and if she can't she has issues.

>>34422713
>at least one person that can hear it starts acting like I verbally killed them
That leads me to more of a vaguely woo-woo, third eye opener thing: ALL of humanity shit tests men. Bystanders, other men, other women, our friends, our families. Even if they're close to you, even if they love you or whatever, people are deeply sensitive to and actively resist a sudden drastic change in social homeostasis. Or something. You boldly putting a bitch in her place not only offends their sensibilities but triggers a sort of crabs-in-a-bucket instinct where they feel compelled to put you back in your place if you were already occupying a relatively low station in the local pecking order. The answer to them is always indifference/ignoring. As a clown at heart, I've realized the utter power of ignoring people. The effort-to-reward ratio is literally unbeatable. And if you try escalating with everyone the way you would with a bitch, you'll quickly come off like dennis reynolds or something lol. It's the sort of shtick you can only pull off if you're 6'6 and 300lbs and look like leon trotsky

>>34422765
I've noticed this in two group chats I'm in, almost any time I say something they crawl out the woodwork to try and downplay it like I did something to them, I always ignore them entirely cause making a scene's never worth it, but I know for a fact I'm not imagining things

>>34422551
Because it takes too much effort to reply to every person in this thread and I CBA. Despite being successful, I also still have my own escalation problems. I'm not some alpha Chad that perfectly escalates with every woman.

There have been times where I've had girls in just their panties in bed and I couldn't get them to go through with it.

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>>34422680
unironically yes
5'3 with lifts is like 5'6
in america that's a death sentence
but, it's not over completely
just your chances are like 0.5%
which means if you increase your volume
and keep improving your social skills
you can find a nice girl

Going to give apps a try for the first time. Not expecting anything, I just want to get some practice talking with girls. I heard Tinder is shit nowadays, what are the ones people are usually using now? And anyone have any tips for making an appealing profile?

>>34421090
100% facts

>>34422724
One girls third message to me this week was asking if I voted for trump and she unmatched me. Crazy bitch

I don't know if this is settling but I'm going out with a girl who's friend's with my friend's wife and she's super enthusiastic, we speak on the phone, went on a museum date last month and we're going out tomorrow. It just feels easy and she asks good questions and always seems exited to talk, unlike every single other woman other than my mom I've met in the past decade.

>>34422567
I bet your words are like knives to some readers, too damaging to confront. Truth stings like a superficial slice

I'm trying to find more casual sex with women on Hinge but everyone seems to want a life partner. What do

>>34423649
If you have to ask, you're not good looking enough to get casual sex. That's reserved for the highest echelon of men that women genuinely desire.

Someone said to me
"You don’t have to go on
Living with a fiend"
I told them they were wrong
I waited for the leaves
To turn the color of song
You couldn’t wait for me
Couldn’t have waited for long

It seems that you had
A thing for the moon
When I saw you last
You tore up the room
Your words were like wolves
Gnawing at wounds
We left it at that
This thing you gave to me
A sickness shaped like a bond
I can’t help feel the need
To chase you now that you’re gone
'Cause blood is sickly sweet
A howling deep from the maw
I’m waiting patiently
I know that's probably wrong

It seems that I've gained
A taste for abuse
I know that it’s pain
Warm to the tooth
The memory’s like howls
A stain on the rune
I’ll leave it at that

>>34423670
Hmm. I'll just go for 12% body fat then.

>>34417980
Do you have autism?
Kiss them, and then slide their bra off and start sucking on their nipples, then slide there knickers of and start stimulatingthem down there. At some point in this they will mosrt likely tell you to fuck them, or you can start going for it and they won't stop you.

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If I am not that conventionally attractive, would it be better to open my tinder match conversation with a flirty joke, a compliment to their pic, a comment on their bio and how we relate, or a "hey, how's your night going? I'm doing X"

>>34416972
There's nothing wrong with it, but you could be artificially limiting your options for dating. A lot of 26, 27, 28-year-olds do not care about dating a 31-year-old.

However, there's nothing wrong with limiting it at 2 years' gap, either. If that's what you are comfortable with, then that's what you are comfortable with.
I'm only 24, but I wouldn't date anyone more than 2 years younger than me, but that's also because they're usually all immature as hell

>>34422619
There's a middle ground. This anon >>34422620 suggests it's like it's either indifference or jestermaxxing, but there's a middle ground, it's called being your fucking self.
If you feel like joking around, joke around, if you don't feel like joking around, feel free to give a lukewarm response and giggle. You're a person too, not all of the girls jokes have to hit with you, you also have desires and things you like and dislike. This is not just a game to entertain the female and press the right buttons to receive something. The hottest thing is actually being yourself, which is also being complex, which is also being varied - because your mood changes. And your response is not always the same. Maybe you were okay with a joke or two, maybe you're tired now and your response is a bit more lukewarm, maybe later you feel jokey again and again you laugh and maybe tease back. The nice thing is that you weren't robotically completing a query, you were acting in a way that bridges the communication gap between you two and makes YOU feel comfortable and HER feel comfortable.
As someone who just now met a girl, and in the past 2 weeks went from first date to relationship, I'm telling you, do what you feel is comfortable for you.
You're not going to feel and be perfect next to your girl, you shouldn't try to. You are you. People's lives and feelings aren't perfect, and it's okay to be "lame" or "boring", it makes you more real. And if a girl finds that boring she can leave. You will do much better finding someone who likes you when you stick to who you are. So instead of having such extremes as jestermaxxing or indifferencemaxxing, do what you feel is right in the moment.
If a girl jokes with me sure I'll joke back, if it's all jokes I'm going to put less energy into it on the second or third go because that's draining. We're not here to keep up appearances, we're here to have a walk and get to know each other.
Hope this was helpful nigger

>>34423649
Lifepartnermaxx and do that with several females who all don't know about one another, and as you fuck one, think of another.
Makes me cum really quickly for some reason

>>34422680
Don't make "short guy" your entire personality. Don't lament about it to women, especially. They hate that.

I have a sister, and she refuses to date short men if they "feel like short men." But she will date short men who "just feel like a guy."

Mind you, she's also 5'2, so I'm sure she's biased in some way. You could have luck dating short women, ig

>>34423747
Why would Autism have anything to do with that?

I'm not retarded and you're assuming I haven't tried that. I've pushed, pulled back, pushed again and they still refused. This has only happened maybe 6 times out of over 100 women. I'm too old to be playing this coy game. Now, I try two times, if they still say no, I send them home. It's simple.

I'm perfectly fine with accepting a "no" than pushing a little too far and getting a "NO!"

I've literally had a 21yr in my bed, panties only. She made it clear before she came over that she just wanted to kiss. She came over, we kissed, eventually clothes came off. More kissing, worked my way down, she blocked. Backed off for a bit. More kissing, worked my way down, she blocked. Played a sexual card game where we have to do things to each other but refused to anything that involved anymore than kissing. Even when I tried to slowly pull down her panties, she held on to them. Eventually I said I need to sleep and sent her home.

I've been with enough woman that if they find me attractive, we fuck. Simple as that. And yes, I have been with women who said that we weren't going to have sex, which we in fact did.

>>34423758
>with a flirty joke, a compliment to their pic, a comment on their bio and how we relate, or a "hey, how's your night going? I'm doing X"
No compliments, I usually comment on her pic or something in her bio. If it works, it works. Don't go for "hey, how's it going" or anything like that

how do i hit up this cashier at a store anons she works busy hours all the time gotta make it quick and she cute ash

>>34424511
>hey im looking for something, could you help me?
>yeah, what are you looking for?
>im looking for your number
>oohhhhhh

worked for me on a girl that worked at lidl.

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>have had a relationship years ago, and a small situationship after that
>everything else failed
>Give up on women after one too many hurts, including backstabs form the mentioned 2
>Decided that I don't deserve happiness anyway, give up on dating
>life is much less stressful now that every time I'm about to get angry at the topic I just remind myself "you'll die alone anyway, you can simply not care" and peace is returned to my heart
>fast forwards a few months

>group to discuss politics with 40 members, all fellow university students + a couple of professors, all right wing
>like, 2 women out of 40 members, didn't even think it was a possibility
>we have dinner together, 1 of the women present
>great body, ok face. Has a big nose but I'm into that shit
>we speak a bit, but nothing incredible
>I remind myself to not bother, it's not worth it
>fast forwards a month
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>>34424690
>she texts me, starts talking to me
>She is christian (has been for 2 years) and 22, allegedly bodycount of 2
>in the end, we organize another group dinner together
>after that she invites me to go to the movie theather together, at no point the word date is even used just to be clear
>I am unsure, I am confident this can only end badly as my personality has become more and more boring over time and I am a complete fuckup in life, genuinely 0 redeeming qualities
>humor her because I don't want to tell her no
>we see the movie, not much happens, as predicted I fail to even make her laugh
>Invites me to lunch the next week, again, I am not sure what I am even doing
>Goes the same way, I'm not even sure if these are dates or she just wants a friend to talk with, I'm not even sure what I'd prefer myself
>During lunch she explicitly tells me she installed Tinder once just for a laugh but never really used it or dated anyone from it
>We talk about Sushi, decide we might go the week after
>That same night she sends in a group we have shared a Tinder screenshot from that same night about a guy she just matched with
>Even IF ours weren't dates but just friendly lunch, why THE FUCK did she lie to me and then send a fucking screenshot in a group I can see?
>Is she trying to make me jelous? Was she disappointed I didn't make a move at lunch? I have no fucking idea
>Simply stop texting her, I can't take anymore of this shit, this is why I stopped talking to girls
>She texts me herself about Sushi, we are going to dinner together tonight
What am I supposed to do? Does anyone have a read on what the fuck is she doing? Is she sent by the Lord to punish me? Torture me like the dog I am? Am I being tested? She texted me first, SHE keeps me inviting me out, WHY is she still finding ways to hurt me? How is that POSSIBLE?
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>>34424690
>>34424694
It sounds like you're just a friend to her. If she was into you, she wouldn't mention tinder matches with other guys full stop. Women sometimes do 'date' activities with guys and not realise they're leading them on.

See how the sushi goes, if it continues to be completely platonic then you should move on and stop going out with her if it causes too much pain.

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Fuck the people who pick on you for not being a bad boy.

>>34424690
>>34424694
Like what the other guy said, likely just sees you as a harmless friend.
If I were you, on the next meetup I'd just grab the bull by the horns and ask her directly if she is looking for a relationship or a friendship with you.

Stick your dick in crazy.

>online friend group
>girl in it
>she messages me occasionally, but not too often (I don't care at all, she's a bit annoying to talk to honestly but that's not the point)
>Everyone's playing a game
>Dude in the game's being particularly annoying
>Usually just ignore them
>But for the past two weeks I've really gotten over being passive
>Absolutely tear into him to the point where he doesn't talk for the rest of the night
>Suddenly girl is messaging me constantly
Interesting. So it is true, just be an asshole. God humans fucking suck

>>34425649
>act dominant
>girl likes it
Not exactly a rocket science my man

>>34425721
Yes no shit, not my point. I didn't think the only sign of dominance they acknowledge is putting another person down, shit truly is a zero sum game, fuck trying to be seen through leadership, compassion and empathy, destroying others is the way

I'll have to numb myself a bit

>>34425649
>So it is true, just be an asshole
Yup lol women are state machines, do the thing and they give pussy
>>34423820
>restated what I said in a more rambling, incoherent, emotionally charged manner award
Are you OCD about your back?

>>34425728
You're overthinking it mate, guy was making a trouble, you've put him down, people appreciated it. Everybody likes a problem solver

What is the longest you would commute to date a woman? I have a lot of stress issues and driving is one of them. I am a shit driver. I can do it but driving with passengers stresses me badly. Which means I obviously can't go pick women up from their house etc. How long of a commute would you be okay with doing if you are dating a woman? I basically don't want to date women if they are an hour or more away. My friend told me that is next to nothing time wise. He has apparently dated women 2-3 hours away. Which sounds annoying.

>>34425745
I don't like to waste my time so I always ask women to a place right next to me. If the date's at 7 pm, I'm leaving house at 6:40 pm and I'm there ten minutes later. In fact, I almost always make the women commute, some of them were like 1 hour away from me. I'm putting in minimal effort until date 2-3.

Definitely wouldn't drive 1-3 hours for a first date unless you already know that person, in which case she'd had to be special

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Are ethnic dating apps any different than the regular ones? I was thinking since I'm mixed I could afford to double or triple dip

You fucking bitch. I gave you my number. Text me, email me, or fuck off. I'm not using Instagram. It's not complicated.

>>34425769
> I gave you my number.
Did she give you hers?

>>34425782
No, she gave me her Instagram account handle with her full name and everything on it. I don't get it. Maybe she's retarded and think sharing phone numbers is dangerous and hasn't thought it through. Or some reason I just don't know

>>34425802
I don't have IG and I don't accept IG handles, it's either number or nothing. It's not like you can't block the other person if things go south

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>>34418657
It wasn't every week, maybe since christmas and the point was it happening damn near every time now.
This weekend my work arranged an after work event so I was "forced" out again.
Ditched my colleagues since no one wanted to sing as usual.
First I was randomly invited to a table with a mom, her daughter and the boyfriend. Which was fun.
They left and I sat around for a while and saw a woman who had been singing a lot. Sitting on her own. Placed myself in front of her and asked if she's here alone. She was.
Some mild conversation later she told me I have beautiful hair and gave me her number. Telling me to call next weekend.
It still felt awkard as fuck. But was it really as easy as "just showing up" this entire time?
The issue now is she seemed to be on the brink of divorce and has a kid? Feels overwhelming as a permavirgin.

>>34425769
Lol last week after some chatting back and forth I asked a girl from a dating site for her number, she gave me it and I texted her once asking: "Is this [name]?"
Never got a reply back or heard from her again online.

Just the way it goes sometimes.

peepeepoopoo i hate women *fart noises*

>>34425896
I feel like getting a phone number before the first date is counterproductive. If she wants to meet you, she will meet you, number or no number

What's happening is that people are dealing with turmoil. It's vindictiveness that isn't your fault that built up overtime from being bullied. It isn't your fault. Just don't let vindictive behavior get to you. Women act vindictive a lot, because they have been bullied. Best thing to do is to just step away and let her meditate through what is happening. Women are not men in that they want to fix things, as they just want time alone to deal with things. It is not your fault she rejected you for how you are.

>>34425902
Nigger!

>>34425932
My logic is that by asking her number early on, it gives you a better gauge of whether she actually wants you or not, so you don't waste time. If she says no, you move on.
A lot of girls online like to be entertained by monkey dances like "what's your favourite colour/food/music/country?" and then shut the guy down afterwards with some shit like "I don't feel any chemistry".
Plus by texting her you stand out more. You are no longer Chump #1069 on her Tinder chat list.

This strategy has usually worked no problem for me, with this girl though I guess it didn't.

>>34425975
That's why I ask them out early on and go for a number only after the date if I want it. What you're saying makes sense, sure, but a good number of women don't want to give up their numbers to random dudes of Tinder and will bow out the moment you ask for it, even though they'd otherwise be open to meeting you. Still, I prefer getting the dates early on

>>34425760
How do you get women to agree to drive to you? I was considering this also but one of my friends told me(she is a woman) that the guy should make the effort to either meet the woman half way distance wise or go most of the way to her. I'd love to take women on dates near me. I feel uncomfortable planning dates in unfamilar areas. mostly because I don't know if the places suck ass or not.

>>34425991
curious about your opener method

I have been using "hey Z, how's your week going?" for most openers. Sometimes I'll add that I like their photos

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>haven't had a match on hinge in about 8 months.
>pay money for the hinge premium
>get 4 matches in one day
Make it stop bros. I don't feel so good. Has paying money always been the answer?

I notice asian women shit test like a machine gun, they throw a ton of little digs and negs at you in rapid succession. Nord/anglosaxon white women shit test by either withdrawing and making you chase or by lawyering you to death in an argument. Meds/latinas shit test via the whiplash from lovebombing you and calling you papi to exploding at you in the grocery store in front of a bunch of strangers out of nowhere. Idk what negresses do as I stay away from them

>>34425745
The longest I've driven for a woman was about an hour and ten minutes round trip. However, she didn't have a car since she was doing a stay in America from Thailand. We hung out maybe 10 times (once per week) before she had to fly back home.

Basically I'd pick her up, bring her to my place, we'd fuck, sleep, wake up, fuck, do things around my city, back to my place, fuck and then I'd drive her back to her place.

These days, I try to get the woman to do most of the driving. I usually just suggest we meet at X boba spot near that happens to be near my place. So it's easy to get boba, watch the sunset and then invite them to my place.

Unless they are my ideal type, my ass isn't driving 30 minutes to meet anyone for free.

>>34426065
The two times I've been on dates were in places I've been before.
Pick a place you've tried and know will be good.

For the other part, if a girl likes you enough, she won't mind driving out further to meet you.
The first girl I dated drove exactly where I told her the date will be and even offered to drive me home afterwards (I'm a bus rider).

>>34426114
In 2026 and if you are a man, yes.
But it is no guarantee for success.

I got a girls' number two days ago just by doing a cold approach, I thought she was into me but when I messaged her to ask for a date she just told me she's going back to her hometown and probably blocked me.

Even if she didn't she def blocked me when I started sperging out 10 minutes after not getting a reply.

>>34426114
Obviously. I get matches on Hinge without paying, maybe 3-5 per week, which is a significant downgrade compared to a few years ago.

Paying for Hinge isn't pay to win, it's pay to be seen. Hinge pushes down all but the best profiles and since there are so many men on Hinge, the chances that a woman sees your profile AND uses one of her 8 daily Likes on you is slim. Also, most women just sift through the people who Liked them.

I've literally had women tell me that I just happened to be the first 10-20 guys that liked her on Hinge before she got overwhelmed and tired. She only saw my like because I paid for the most expensive sub to be put on top and to stay on top.

Every time I decide to pay for the top Sub my matches usually double and sometimes triple just because I can send unlimited likes AND my likes stay at the top of the pile.

>>34426134
>These days, I try to get the woman to do most of the driving. I usually just suggest we meet at X boba spot near that happens to be near my place. So it's easy to get boba, watch the sunset and then invite them to my place.

I don't understand how people do this and women even agree to it. I don't think I have ever had a woman agree to such things with me. However, I never ask I guess. I also don't typically do dates in the evening.

>>34426146
I stopped bothering asking for numbers unless she shows interest. Not to say that I haven't had a good connection without initial interest, but it's a good sign she'll flake. The best way to close is not just with a number, but a date already set. Better yet, a date right there. My best experiences with women didn't even involve getting a number. We'd kiss or fuck before even talking on the phone.

At the club
Danced a little
There’s one girl I ran into that I am absolutely enamored with
Not going home without her tn lol

>>34425763
I wonder just how red the red flag is on joining a race specific dating app while not being part of that race

dm'd 7 girls on monday, 3 responded, 2 responded more than once. 1 was a girl I met who didn't give me her ig, left me on read 2 days ago, the other I never met, but we had 2 mutuals, we texted throughout the week, she was lolling, texting me multiple times and the moment I ask her out she blocks me.

I'll go for another 7 I guess.


Also why does it seem so fucking out of reach for me to get a girl just like my ex? Attractive, white? what's wrong with me? WHy is it I always end up with asian women I dont want to settle with?

Everyone in my life says I talk very proper, I dont hear it, or they say I have an accent, but not an autism accent, I dont understand. is that what's giving themthe ick? My recent ex who was white, english wasnt her first language but even she could tell I spoke differently than everyone else. I sell mostly for a living so its not like I've been desocialized. I can get dates with women but not the ones I want. Whats so fucking wrong with me? Why is it so out of fucking reach???

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In case anyone cares this >>34420753 went great. She was waiting on her porch when I got there to pick her up, the weather was nice, and we talked as easily as ever. We went out to an old railroad bridge that's part of the trail, hung out by the water there for a while, and got back in about an hour and fifteen minutes. After that we ate at a local restaurant, and I drove her home. The meal and afterwards was quieter but it wasn't awkward or anything. And she kissed me on the cheek just before she got out of my car.

I was also worried about how to escalate for nothing. compliments and little casual touches came naturally and she always reciprocated. The only thing that really tripped my nerves was when I noticed she was walking really close to me on the way back to my car. Like close enough that she almost tripped me at one point. I thought to put my hand around her waist, didn't do it, but maybe I should have? I was also so shocked after she kissed me I had to sit for a little while and calm down, but hopefully she thought I was just waiting for her to get inside before I drove off or something.

I'm just sitting in bed now trying to cool down so I can sleep instead of thinking back and over-analyzing every little detail. 10/10 experience all in all. Can't wait to see where this goes.

>>34423825
>Lifepartnermaxx and do that with several females who all don't know about one another, and as you fuck one, think of another.
wtf based good advice

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>>34426853
Congratulations and fuck you. It took me until 24 to just hold hands (still kissless). You're going to make it, kid.

>>34426853
I second this man >>34426961 thank you so much for the update and I hate my life but good work cannot go unnoticed, really good job man. I could almost imagine her walking close to you. I would probably ask can I hold you? And she'd probably say yes, but the kiss on the cheek - excellent
With my date, first meeting we only ever had a hug at the end.
Second date I ate her pussy and she sat on my face and I came bucketloads but we didn't fuck because I didn't bring condoms because I genuinely thought nothing's going to happen because she's a virgin.
But the third date I did take her virginity so we're good. Hopefully she continues with me
In any case brother man, that's awesome. Naturally meeting someone like this is top rizz and confidence boost, good going man

>>34426853
Good fucking shit, I struggle currently with dating since i dated my sis for a long while and it's fucked up my sense of how to talk to women/getting back into the whole dating scene, but thjs shit gives me hope ty for the post o7

>>34427021
>since i dated my sis for a long while

Sure you did.

>>34427021
You fucking what?

>>34426065
I'm >>34425991. I happen to live next to a popular spot for dates and meetups, I guess that helps, so women don't complain. Obviously a woman's going to say that a guy should make the effort, but let's be real, it's an uphill battle anyway, no reason not to make your life a bit easier.
>>34426077
>I have been using "hey Z, how's your week going?" for most openers. Sometimes I'll add that I like their photos
I'm sorry anon but that's just bad, only slightly better than "hey". You don't need fancy openers or pickups lines, but a little effort would get you far. You need to customize your openers, refer to something in her profile

>>34427058
He means his sis
- Sy ass boyfriend who's a gay furry
Who is also not real and only exists on sora AI

I’ve been on a couple of dates recently. Fuck me, women love to talk about themselves don’t they? I thought I would have to carry the conversation and regale them with stories but it seems all you gotta do is listen and occasionally play off what they say?

>>34427166
It just means they're having a good time.

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>>34426077
I like "hey lady" and putting emphasis on "lady" like it's a slur

>>34427166
Love when women talk about themselves, makes my job my easier

>>34427058
If ya don't believe w/e i'm not gonna scream "trust me bro!" all day, i'm just glad to hear some good news on the thread as recently there's been a lot of subtle doomposting and it's demoralizing. Glad at least someone has been getting somewhere
>>34427070
Yee is messed up, but we're past that now. Recently have been getting my life back on track and trying to dip my toes into dating. It's been rough since i lived in rural canada on a rez for a long time, so trying to both talk+date women is a challenge now that I live in a city. This shit is a whole different scene

>>34427263
>on a rez
Okay I believe you now.

>>34427263
you coulda just mentioned you weren't white in the first place and it would've been made more clear kek, now it makes sense

>>34426155
Well, most of them don't live THAT far away, so it isn't really going that far out of the way for them. I've only had one woman cancel a date because she didn't like that I chose a location that was quite close to me but far from her. "You should have chose a location somewhere in the middle." is about what she said.

>how to get women
Be handsome

Can someone give me a tldr on all popular dating apps, what the benefits and negatives are, etc etc

>>34422512
Chat is this real?

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>>34427669
Ranking the one's I've tried:
1. HINGE: The best of a bad bunch. More for long-term than hookups. All the important features are free, and the paid version is a placebo. It gives you the most room to express yourself if you have a decent personality. However, having to min-max your profile while most women put in little effort is pretty depressing.
2. OKCUPID: The best option for ugly guys. Everything important is free, and the women there are more desperate or they'd just stick to Hinge. If you're willing to go 90 Day Fiance, it's very popular among Filipinas, Kenyans, and au pairs (mainly Brazilians) looking to stay in the US. Just have to watch out for bots, although they tend to impersonate white women.
3. SALT: Christian app with a very small userbase, but it's the only place I've secured dates with women I didn't have to force myself to like. A lot of older women (40+) are on it if you're willing to be a boytoy. Based on my IRL observations, a widowed/divorced woman of that age will go for anything. Ultimately, I have to put it in third place because of how few people there are on it.
4. TINDER: Absolute garbage unless you're a gigachad. Normal guys may occasionally get matches but rarely a conversation (let alone a date). Even chads are unlikely to get an actual relationship off of this app. At best, they'll get a hookup with a hot but vapid woman.
5. BUMBLE: Irredeemable garbage. Most women either don't understand that THEY need to message first or just don't care. Unless you're lucky, you'll get nothing off this, especially since the userbase is smaller than Hinge, OkCupid, and Tinder.
6. UPWARD: Walmart SALT. Even fewer users with a worse free version.
???: I've heard good things about Facebook Dating, but it's so glitchy that even someone with an active FB account may not be able to access it. CatholicMatch is still active, but the free version looks like shit, and I'd bet the userbase skews older.

>>34428004
>1. HINGE: The best of a bad bunch. More for long-term than hookups. All the important features are free, and the paid version is a placebo. It gives you the most room to express yourself if you have a decent personality. However, having to min-max your profile while most women put in little effort is pretty depressing.

I have noticed this about womens profiles. Most are absolute garbage unfortunately. Although I will say paid hinge mode is not a placebo. I hadn't gotten a match on there in roughly 8 months. I paid for the sub the other day and now have had 3 matches. Coincidence?

>>34428004
>Most women either don't understand that THEY need to message first or just don't care.
Oh come on, how is that even possible? Not going to sound condescending (I'm in no position to judge myself) but maybe they didn't like you specifically

>>34427093
>You need to customize your openers, refer to something in her profile

What if their profile is bland?

Can you give 2 or 3 examples of actual openers you've used?

I actually get good response rates with "hey Name, how's it going?" or a variant of that. I really feel like a ugly simp of I go harder. If they respond, then they get a custom response.

How much does race matter in online dating? I feel like I don't ever get any matches. I am a black male also and I think... I may disadvantage in that regard when it comes to online dating.

>>34428062
>How much does race matter in online dating?
>I am a black male
Oh boy. I don't know how to break this to you gently.

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>>34428080
How bad is it?

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>>34428015
I didn't get everything I wanted to across since I ran into the text limit. Should've just made two posts.
By "placebo," I meant that it won't help unattractive guys. Paid Hinge will get your profile in front of more eyes, but that won't help if those eyes don't like what they see. If you have a good profile, it might be worth it since you won't get stuck behind a stack of ugly dudes. You may also get a like from a woman before she hits her conversational bandwidth.
>>34428026
Before I gave up on it, I was getting a similar amount of matches on Bumble compared to the other apps. Could just be bad luck, but the fact that they had to roll out a new feature (Opening Move) to give guys a way to message first is a bit telling. Maybe it'd go different if I tried again. Who knows?
>>34428054
If you're getting matches with a "Hello" opener, you're handsome. Congratulations. Women complain about getting these messages, but they'll gladly accept them from particularly hot guys.
>>34428062
Just be glad you're not an Asian man. They have the lowest match rate across the board, and it's not just because of the height debuff.

>>34428097
How honest should I be in my profile? Like, hobbies, I mean.
My biggest hobby is probably ttrpgs, I have a whole setting I created to dm it to my friends. I also read classic literature and other pussy withering stuff. I don't want to hide myself but I do feel like it will keep women away

>>34428085
That depends. As a preface, I'm also black. For whatever it's worth, in my experience the only women are mostly not willing to date black guys interracially. There was a study on this on dating apps, I wish I had it on hand but I don't have it, but black men and women are universally considered the least desirable by other races (>>34428097 says it's Asian men now so maybe stats have changed recently? Not sure). The only majority of women that want to date out of their race to look for black guys are propaganda mindrape victims that are only into the hood thug nigga shit because they think it's cool. Myself, I'm soft spoken and introverted. This does not work for them.
If you want a partner that doesn't have a racial fetish then you'll need to date within your race. Unfortunately this means you have to deal with black women. I find American black women absolutely intolerable on every level. Maybe you're different, who knows. But this is where I'm coming from. If you're similar to me, it's probably best to look for African immigrant girls. They're usually put together much better than African American women.

>>34428123
Definitely include the classic lit part. It makes you look smart and gives a topic of conversation. Just note that most women are either read performatively or stick to "romance novels" (i.e., goonbooks).
As for the ttrpgs, I wouldn't highlight that hobby in your profile since most women have zero interest in that. As a general rule, you should only advertise hobbies that appeal to women even if they're not your absolute favorites. However, if your friends are reasonably attractive, it could make a good excuse for a group photo to prove that you have a social life.

>>34428155
>it could make a good excuse for a group photo
No, a couple of them are jacked, and the two that are not jacked are taller than me
That's not a good idea, I'll just look bad in comparison

I guess I have to think about something else, I don't do much besides that and 4chan, I don't even play videogames anymore

>>34428167
That's unironically why I stopped using dating sites. That and because I have to force myself to get my picture taken, so I only ever have like 2-3 half-decent photos of myself. Online dating isn't the absolute worst idea, but you're probably better off sitting in your room with nothing to do, because you'll just be swiping all day if you're intp like me

>>34428167
The cheerleader effect generally applies to men, and the height issue could be mitigated if you were all sitting down. However, if you feel that they outclass you that badly, go with your gut.

why do we even have these threads. the situation is fucking hopeless. a significant portion of zoomers are going to die alone and if you're posting ITT you're one of them.

>>34428205
Sir please, this thread is not for doomposting, I'm in my manic episode right now, hopemaxxing and smilemogging.

>>34428214
yeah but its true. its actually so fucking over. Jews totally destroyed the west

>>34428214
I'm more manic than you. Know your place. I'm about to ascend amd get everything i wanted.

>>34428217
It's been over since the stone age

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>Ask a girl out very awkwardly
>Get vaguely rejected
>Avoid her completely
>She does not avoid me at all. Still looks at me, crosses my path (likely on purpose), casually hangs around me and seemingly wants me to talk to her but never addresses me directly.
Wtf is her problem? That's really not how a girl who got asked out by someone she does not want to be with should act. Part of me just wants to forget but the other part wants to be nice with her. She has her flaws like being a bit childish and, if my guts are right, insincere but is an amazing woman overall. Wife material I'd say even to be honest. Beautiful, smart, caring, sportive, Christian... she just has it all. I hate this stupid dilemma.

>>34428302
A lot of them will eventually say yes if you keep pushing yourself on them. Be rapey.

>>34428248
You're funny, maybe I'll let you be my court jester once I proclaim myself god emperor of mankind

Of all the girls I fucked, 100% of them initiated, whether it was them who swiped right on me first on le app or them cold approaching me at a party or a customer hitting on me at work or they threw really obvious, almost aggresive iois at me. Every time I've initiated cold it was an autistic mess. I don't know how some of you go indian mode and go "maaam gib me bobs n vagene" to every broad you pass by.

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>>34428313
>keep pushing yourself on them. Be rapey.
Kek that's absolutely not my style but you are right in a way. I should push forward regardless of that set back because she is definitely worth the effort and has not closed doors.
Maybe I can do it in my own way. Basically just making it painfully obvious I am very interested by her but in a nice and friendly way. I have to be careful not to go 0 to 100 however and progressively do it.

How bad is it to not have a driver license at 24
Mind you, I live in europe, I can get by with public transportation, it's less of a logistic problem and more of a social power problem

>>34426234
She was staring at me when I was taking a coffee and started giggeling when I said hi so I thought she was into me.
Tbf I acted like a bit of a sperg, I only approached her 30 minutes after I first said hi, by which point her friend had joined her.
I also had a meal planned with a friend so had to leave, ran back 20 mins later to ask for her number and then I ran away again.
I didn't message her untill 4 hours later.

>>34428430
Do most people get by with public transport? I feel like you'd know better than any of us

>>34428463
A lot of people do, but people my age have a car and license
Everyone in my friend group does

>>34428466
You can get shitfaced whenever and wherever you want and not worry, that sounds like a good deal. Unless your public transport is full of darkies

>>34428469
I am asking how much of a pussy dry it is, not about getting shitfaced, I don't need advice to getting drunk I can do that myself

>>34428430
Having a car requires a lot of money. I have the licence but refuse to get a car.

Look you guys, this is a fucking journey okay? This is up there with wanting to be a millionare. It is supposed to be hard as hell okay? It never was meant to be easy. Women are just difficult. It has nothing to do with who they are, but rather that they have a shit ton of men wanting them and they just pick the one they feel is best for them. Stay motivated nonetheless.

>>34428485
Don't compare finding a girlfriend to finding a way to make a million dollars

>>34428496
This, making money is infintely easier than finding a genuinely good woman who also loves you

>>34428481
Your insecurity about it is what makes it a pussy dry

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>>34428430
>>34428466
As an American with the same issue, it's fucking crippling. However, as a European, your life isn't completely fucked over. if you look up your country's driving stats (not just your anecdotal evidence), you'll probably see that ~30% of your countrymen have no license. If you filter by age group, you'll probably also see that the majority of licenses are held by people older than you.
Being able to drive is always better, but being part of the 30% isn't something to feel insecure about (compare that to 9% in the USA).

>>34427669
Do you have good photos? You're 70% there. Add some decent bio and some social skills and you'll be getting results. Easier said than done though, but persistence will get you far. As for the apps, they're all the same.
>>34428054
How bland are we talking about? Most women have photos and some semblance of a bio. "Hey, I see you're a heavy metal girl", "Hey, that's one photogenic dog you have", "Hey, is that your dog or did you borrow it to take a photo?" None of these lines are spectacular in any way.
>. I really feel like a ugly simp of I go harder. If they respond, then they get a custom response.
It makes you stand out. Most guys open with your usual "hey, how's it going". Not saying lines like that don't yield results, but your chances are better if go custom.
>>34428430
It is an issue, but I've met dozens of women and been asked about it maybe once or twice. It's not something that will be a problem early on

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My parents are trying to set me up with this girl, I had no idea what she looked like and I am lonely so I decided to go along with it and let them give out my contact. I got a text from her this morning, I looked up her Instagram and fuck bros I cannot go through with this... I dont want to be an asshole and ghost her but I really dont want to go out with her. I was trying to be open minded but I really cannot do this... This must be how most women feel interacting with me lol.

>>34428667
Are you Middle Eastern or Southeast Asian?

>>34428683
No im white. My parents were talking to some random people who said they had a daughter my age who was single so they put us in contact. Man it feels bad im sure she is nice but she aint the one for me.

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so if/when it becomes my time to talk to a girl, would it be bad to pull a move like this? it's factually true but i'm also in my 30s so it's a little bit of a childish metaphor type shit

>>34428667
Go grab a coffee, you'll practice a bit, after that just go for a classic "I don't think that's what I'm looking for" and go on with your life

>>34428764
Yes. Don't make up exes or something but don't offer the information either.

>>34428622
>"Hey, I see you're a heavy metal girl"
>"Hey, that's one photogenic dog you have"
>"Hey, is that your dog or did you borrow it to take a photo?"

Why do I read this in an Indian accent? lmao

>>34428798
Hey, all of those lines worked and I'm white. But I don't blame you desu

>>34428798
Talking to girls in 2026 inherently feels very indian

>>34428781
I would but im spooked, she has a condition similar to progeria. Idk man maybe im just not a good person.

>>34428811
>she has a condition similar to progeria
Wait, really? Well in that case you've got to talk to your parents, because wow

>>34428811
>maybe im just not a good person
Being forced to date a genetically defective person does not make one good
You can be friendly towards her but you should not pity date someone you find repulsive

>>34428802
>>34428808
kek

honestly, just them acting too interesting in chicks is such an unpleasant image, you do not want to embody it

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>>34428814
>>34428820
I dont think they knew of her condition when they set it up. At least I really hope not. Fuck man this happened to me earlier this week too. >>34416154. Maybe its time for me to go to a monastery...

>>34428782
wait are u serious? i always thought i'd lead with that
i thought me being a virgin would be a relief for a girl who might have worried about getting an STD or something, also this way she knows that she needs to show me where the hole is and walk me through the process, unless we're both going in blind which might be ideal but idk if that's gonna happen

>>34429028
>i thought me being a virgin would be a relief for a girl who might have worried about getting an STD or something
No, it makes you seem like a weirdo. Maybe you are and maybe you aren't but if you lead with that very few will take you seriously as an option.

>she needs to show me
No she doesn't. Sex is not that difficult to figure out.

My brother is linking me up with a single girl. I am a 26 year old virgin and I haven't dated before. She lives abroad and is looking to date like me. She's PRESUMABLY a virgin, like me, but who knows? Anyway, I will be contacted by her this week and we will get to know each other.
What to do? She's religious and conservative, but I am not religious nor conservative.

>get girl
>get bored, fed up and pissed off, fomo for solo traveling
>break up
>travel and return home
>be completely alone for 3-6 months
>repeat

>>34429819
Mr moneybags over here

Let me tell you something. You got to be chill when you are dealing with friction with a woman on a date or in any sort of interaction. A woman's random out of nowhere turmoil is not a sign you are an awful person; it is a sign someone was awful to her and now she is afraid. Again be chill, be cool-headed, and be easygoing. Try to contain yourself and if it doesn't work out at least you gave her space, okay? Sometimes women have bad experiences and unintentionally take it out on people.

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Do women enjoy being mating presses or its just a meme?

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>>34429398
Dating a conservative/religious woman as a liberal/atheist man is significantly easier than dating a liberal/atheist woman as a conservative/religious men. As long as you don't make it a point of argument, most conservative girls will put up with you. Conversely, liberal women subject men to purity tests.

>>34429980
They are fucking difficult. It's what I've been trying to help you guys deal with for the past few months. They essentially go through a ton of men and make a generalization on all of them from how painful their experience was with them. The most painful part is you can't just work out and expect them to like a body. It is essentially a personality change you have to go through, and it is not easy. Worst part of it all, is that you may end up like me going through all those changes and at the most she just shrugs you off instead of finding attraction. Absolutely, the final boss in Dark Souls 2 is liberal women. You have to be smarter than her, have strong character not be strong physically, and be more mature than her. But being more mature than a woman who is your age but 40 years older mentally and emotionally is still a fucking challenge.

Send me elephant dreams
A greyness absorbs into the deep
Heal me elephant grief
A promise I’m too scared to keep
Send me elephant dreams

>>34413489
I can talk to women just fine, but I'm retarded and don't know how to flirt or escalate conversations from friendly conversation to something more. Any advice on how to fix this problem?

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>>34430130
I have been asking this question for years and I literally haven't seen one successful interaction where I can actually see what someone says to a woman to get her number.

Everyone can be poignant and witty, but a guy who is patient and understanding is more worthwhile despite the contrary.

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Alright I might be a little retarded but I was talking to this girl I matched with on Tinder, she is Russian like me and we talked back and forth a bit but this week is busy for me and it was Orthodox Easter so I did kinda ghost her for few days. She unadded me from Telegram which was a red flag for me, because which girl has a Tinder but no Insta? I was reassured that she was real because I heard her voice messages to me but idk I know I shouldn't care but I did get a little bit emotionally invested. I got other options too who are Russian but shit was weird. Who doesn't have an instagram but has a tinder?

Gonna experiment with women-getting after I get something going for thy self.

Gonna experiment with women-getting once I have something going for myself.

>>34429398
Do you know what she looks like? Hope for the best but prepare for the worst, she could have a genetic condition lol.
>>34429908
>>34429994
>>34430249
Fuck off zach

>Start talking to girl on app
>She seems like she's serious all of the time and rarely laughs
>Definitely clear she gets attention because she has big booba and isn't fat if nothing else
>Replies to me instantly every time which is always a good sign
>She suggests we move to something like whatsapp
>Do that
>Sometimes I don't reply until about an hour or more later
>Literally as soon as I send the message it comes up as two blue ticks and she instantly replies

Should I be concerned?