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QOTT: who is your favorite guardian
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>>154028612
I will have to say Dad Egbert and Bro Strider. I really like Mom lalonde and wish she had more screentime by herself like the later had doing something silly. Grandpa harley is nice too but its too sad to think about him desu. Giving what happens to him.
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happy korpus kristi day
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>>154028612
>QOTT: who is your favorite guardian
I always found Bro the coolest and most badass.
>has a sweet katana and speed power
>sliced a giant meteor in half
>almost rivaled pre-bec Jack Noir in power
>could've beaten Jack Noir if Bec wasn't sprited
>cracked the Beat Mesa
Especially during the Golden Age of Homestuck, Bro was amazing.
Although, I wouldn't have him as my Guardian.
If Bro was Sis... that'd be a different story.
Pic related.
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Dirk brought back John but he turned out wrong
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oh wait i realized you were responding to the original comic panel and not mine,
apologies
yes one of my biggest issues with the original 3 years comic is pancake sprite draws john and jade like...not john and jade at all? no buck teeth or anything. its one of the reasons i draw this at all.
And to make sure to properly depict john as shorter than jade.
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>>154028612
why jane in specific?
would she be even into femdom or pegging for that matter?
(ignoring her hs2 and epilogues version of her)
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tavros is a kind hearted person, but he has issues with cowardice and a complete inability to utilize his natural charm (which he DOES have,) making him sometimes spurg out and act like a fool.
same with all of the trolls who are decent people, at their core they are good people, but they just have a bunch of flaws facilitated by a harsh environment. I would even argue someone like Eridan could have been salvaged.
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>>154029619
the core theme of homestuck is kids growing up and being better so your totally right on that front,the ending that should have happened was the trolls using john as their own personal fix my mistakes button leading to none dying and then him fucking off while they deal with all the bullshit they didn't address before
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>>154029349
He’s fine without it
>>154028738
When I was a teen I made a clan called Clan Q and we were basically Q cultists
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>>154028612
Remember when we used to assume Bro was just in his late teens early twenties at the latest?
Then we learned he's the same age as Mom in his late 30's and you could feel the fandom's perception of him change on a dime.
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>>154028612
>who is your favorite guardian
Every Chad son has a GigaChad father.
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>>154029602
>would she be even into femdom
>(ignoring her hs2 and epilogues version of her)
She was in the comic when she went Crocker tier. Going evil did not give Jane and Jade arbitrary new traits out of nowhere, but rather made them act out on their more latent desires, which in Jade's case ramped up her repressed furfaggotry and in Jane's case meant her becoming a dominatrix that planned to turn Jake into her trophy husband/flesh dildo(pic related). Jane being a domme might seem like an asspull but it can be actually explained thanks to extremely pointless foreshadowing that predictably ended up going fucking nowhere.
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>>154030061
>Then we learned he's the same age as Mom in his late 30's and you could feel the fandom's perception of him change on a dime.
Idc about child abuse but let's be honest, acting like a fratboy in your mid to late 30s is just plain fucking embarrassing.
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>>154030235
Yes, this is exactly what I was alluding to. It was the day that "badass Bro" died and he became the abusive cringelord chopped unc he remains to this day.
>>154030189
>the author's barely concealed fetish
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>>154030061
well yeah, it kinda changes everything doesnt it. When we didnt know Bro was daves dad, we just assumed he quite literally was daves older frat boy brother.
Sure he was an asshole and was quite harsh on dave, but he was seemingly a younger guy with a lot of responsibility, and just as eccentric as dave is himself.
when we learn hes so much older, it changes a lot. an abusive father is debatable much more horrid than an abusive sibling.
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>>154028612
>QOTT: who is your favorite guardian
Mom Lalonde.
She is one of my favorites.
And no not because she is hot (she is) but because she's hilarious and I think she'd be a pretty fun mom to have.
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>>154030061
HMM how can i make this guy look evil ah yes the big evil guy puts his soul into the puppet and sends it to abuse a kid
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>>154030783
i dont feel trauma power scaling is something you have to do in order to take daves struggles seriously, because bro did fuck him up, and no matter how serious the story takes it it does have an effect on him even in act 5, where Dave struggles with being his own man.
all that being said you are absolutly right in that the story NEVER takes jakes or especially jades story seriously at all, her up bringing being alone, socially mal adjusted, and basically fending for herself is treated as a quirky character trait. Even the epilouges dont even try to dive into it, they just use it as an excuse to make her a sex pest.
this is because hussie didnt care about jade and got her out of the way as soon as they were able.
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>>154030962
no but bec can only defend her from immediat threats of bodily harm, they cant really teach her to read, write, cook, or any other normal human things.
>>154031105
No, but jade is a main character of the story, and more importantly Hussie sets her up as being important by making her by far the strongest protagonist up until John gets retcon powers. You would think with how the build up of her leadership of the team, her manipulation of the trolls to help her and the other beta kids, and her general coming into her own she goes through at record pace in act 5 act 2 that god tier jade would be the power house and defacto leader, considering dave, who is basically deigned by god to be the leader rejects the role.
Instead shes relegated to the back seat for most of act 6.
and at the end of the day he can do whatever the fuck he wants, but i still think the story would be better if jade like..did things?
well act 6 would be better if ANYONE did ANYTHING that wasnt named caliborn or vriska, but yknow.
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im glad that the threads are finally realizing how based this ship is. but also daverose and ot4 fixes both of this.
I do lowkey wanna cuck davesprite tho, john and jade cucking dave sprite is so funny to me.
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>>154031532
It means age gaps are okay as long as both of you share the same class.
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>>154031087
this sounds like the troll version of goon slang
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>>154028508
At this point AI has irreversibly reshaped my neurology especially since I was ostracized and isolated for 8 years after woke got big so it filled in a lot of social gaps.
>>154028596
If you deny my story about having had a friend who was a major team member you admit that’s a big deal and prove half my point already.
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>>154034125
Does she upgrade every stake she's played in?
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>>154035759
unrelated to anything i just wanted to share a vivid dream i just had.
https://rentry.co/br00ms71ck
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Team Magenta summoning six voters out of nowhere at 3 in the morning to suck them off
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>>154037198
>pointed shoes
>jingling bells on a hat with floppy points
>jingling bells on her neck ruff
SHE IS A FUCKING JESTER, THE MASK DOESN'T MEAN SHE ISN'T.
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Guys what was the name of the illustrated fanfic where Dirk is a pooner and almost dies giving himself top surgery and has to call still-alcoholic Roxy for help? I remember it being posted here a few months ago but I didn't save the link
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>>154035759
No Dave you are NOT allowed to fuck the only girl that understands you, because she's now your sister. You're such a DOOFUS for having this information be revealed to you, not Davesprite though Davesprite isn't such a doofus.
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fat terezi believers are so fucking stupid
>"well shes fat because she like licks the walls and floors stuff and eats inedible stuff... and that would totally make her fat in real life and super malnourished and sickly."
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>>154039446
>its a "artist redraws the entire comic because their artstyle evolved instead of just continuing" episode
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>start reading autopraxis
>"At nineteen years of age, she's brimming with youthful verve and twitchy charisma, and she hasn't been called sir in over 6 months! "
>two pages later, about the very same character
>"You are also a PROFESSIONAL CON ARTIST."
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>>154035366
What's a good woke warrior without a few allegations of being a groomer and a predator?
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i say DO IT
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>>154042054
>seconding this
yeah
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>>154042164
do you guys not like the adam sandler fan thats also a hottie?
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>>154042068
I think the newer authors that get attention to their fanventures in these threads just tend to be perverts and like making their characters hot.
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>tavros
>latinx
lmao
lol even
>>154042614
not really, pb? maybe, vestige? doubt it, sd? nah
theres stuff like drinking problem than lean into it but these arent the cases
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>pb? maybe
Be for real now
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>>154042835
This artist is funny because he originally had a very unique artstyle that people simply mistook for HONE's and he went like "no no thats not my art" and now his art is almost identical
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>>154042879
It's a shame, I really liked kasage's old art more than the faux-hone
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That's a different artist with a very similar art style. Compare their Vriskas, though they were drawn three years apart.
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>>154044302
I like them because they don't draw Terezi as a fat blob.
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>>154044986
Does anyone have the promotional art they drew of all the beta trolls together for some occasion? Someone posted it in this general a while ago but I can't find it anywhere else and I have no idea what I'd search for in the archives.
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The stuff for Requiem? There's an archive for that.
https://archive.ph/9RHZV
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>>154044302
>it's so painfully generic.
That's part of the appeal, it's generic in a way that is pleasant to the eye. In an animu community it would be unremarkable, but it's competing against hordes of vitiligo buck teeth titty scar striders
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These ones?
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/153593921/#153610607
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save while you can.
https://web.archive.org/web/20250413143843/https://homestuck.net/resou rces/requiem/dynamic-art/
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>TT: I also took a moment to check on John.
>TG: how is he
>TT: I can't see him anymore. Just his empty house.
>TT: But I did talk to him briefly.
>TG: i should probably text him soon
>TG: see whats up
>TG: because
>TG: i love him
>TT: I know.
This shit's way too faggy even for the standards of a late 00s ironic gay joke.
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>>154045511https://web.archive.org/web/20250413232923/https://homestuck.net/resou rces/requiem/standing-art/
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>>154045580
after reading him talking about how he thinks gamzee is the best troll in a ironic way, i can presume Dave has a type for goofy ass dudes but hides it in his typical cynical irony jokes. but he actually means it. I think Dave is the type of guy that will say some absurd and make strong analogies to either own the other and make it uncomfortable. Like that one time Tavros tried to troll him and he did all that slam gay stuff. But I also think he is kinda emotional and when someone does the same to him he gets embarassed. Like when Rose flirts with him. Sorry for me blabbling about it. I just find Dave interesting. These moments when the kids are showing how vulnerable and weird adjusted emotionally they are is like, so cool to me.
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>>154045713
For me it's Rose's completely flat "I know" as if it were the most obvious thing in the world.
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>>154045822
I never considered Equius and or Gamzee/Dave after my more attentive re-read of homestuck act4-act5. Its a really fresh and unnexplored topic to me. This 3 characters are so so interesting when put together and you start noticing that they are mirrors of the Beta Kids dillemas, but more Alien lol. Like Gamzee is all about the Dark Carnival Clown stuff, he is silly, wich reminds OF JOHN prankster shtick. DAVE likes John. BUT John is kinda mean to Dave and Dave has to just take it and be cool with only being Friends with Johnny Boy. Now enters all this troll kids. In the course of the years these kids had been being trolled and nagged by this Bored aliens that don't even know what they are doing. And sorry I just tangenciated again. (1/2)
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But take Equius. Equius reminds me of Beta Dirk. Dave's bro. No wonder Dave is creeped out by Equius advances and thinks he is the worst troll. Probally triggered all the bad taste pranks and weird porn torture movies his Bro likes to make and laid around in the apartment. And the camera Stalking.
Gamzee and Equius represent the two types of masc experience had in life, and are also real and there for him to explore as alive individuals. I think Gamzee and Dave could have a really interesting Dynamic. Gamzee in his lowest would see Dave as a annoying cool kid that Terezi likes somehow. I dont remember Gamzee hating Terezi but Gamzee may hold grudges againts the friends that stopped talking to him (Like everybody but Karkat and Tavros)
So his pitched feelings for Dave would be mild and he would find Him ans Terezi together annoying. Even more Because Dave would like to mess up with him since The Strider has this moiragilance with Karkat and Terezi, and his lack of understand how troll romance works would feed the flame of rage in Gamzee a little bit by bits. Like imagine they two in the meteor alone and Dave starts to ask Gamzee about Karkat and what he likes, like asking advice In troll stuff since Gamzee is Karkat's ex friend in Dave assumption, lmao. Stuff like that would make him feel both even more disrespected and alienated from everybody else and would inspire him to harass Dave a little, but Dave would either just find pathetic or reciprocate the (friendly banter?)hate.
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Equius/Dave is complicated in a diferent way for me and more dificult consedering how HORNY Equius is And Dave is the most Scared of Gay Sex Bisexual (with milf preference for some reason) that i've seen. So it will be a whole can of worms for me to think how a romance between them would nivelate. but I will think about it and write here soon. Maybe later tonight.
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>>154045713
>Like that one time Tavros tried to troll him and he did all that slam gay stuff.
To be fair that one was definitely ironic more than he wasn't because he absolutely does not like Tavros and the only way you could plausibly squeeze some kind of romance out of these two is kismesissitude. It's certainly interesting that Tavros did warm up to Dave though it was ultimately a one-sided developmentThere are some interesting parallels to be made with Rosemary developments here.
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>No wonder Dave is creeped out by Equius advances and thinks he is the worst troll. Probally triggered all the bad taste pranks and weird porn torture movies his Bro likes to make and laid around in the apartment. And the camera Stalking.
Equius did apparently earn Dave's respect though, at least according to the commentaries
>This almost feels like a slight role reversal from when Tavros trolled Dave. Tavros had no idea what he was getting himself into, got dunked on repeatedly, and ended up blocking Dave. Dave challenges Equius to a rap-off, is a little too cocky, and is completely unprepared for the fact that Equius likes to rap about huge, naked horse monsters, with loving descriptions of their anatomy and the process of milking their massive udders. But since Dave isn't a wimp like Tavros, this just earns Dave's respect, and they continue talking. Dave is satisfied enough that this guy is worth talking to about his quest lore.
Also just one page earlier Hussie casually alludes to the viability of Davequius
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yep that is what i meant! he was being 100% ironic that time. but he also makes that double irony take where he jokes about something that he likes. like saying he loves john. wich giving his historic sounds like being gay but is not, but actually totally is true since he gave up his own life to save his friend.
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Only Gamzee and Equius Smell. The rest has that normal Man Musk. I think Dave and Dirk smell of Rexona and hair gel/hair conditioner. Tavros is a cutie that smells like baby powder and buttercup candy. and maybe glitter/plush fill and fabric of his fairy/plush stuff.
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i will always say Johndave isnt a completly legless ship unlike (looks at davekat) SOME SHIPS.
I think its pretty obvious dude has a thing for silly guys. He likes gamzee pre crazy, and he likes john, if not on a romantic level than at the very least he is so endeared to him he feels a level of protectiveness that i feel goes beyond just simple machismo, which i feel is the case for his protectiveness of jade, which i feel is more of an artificial/obligatory thing he requires himself to be because shes the girl. Not to say DaveJade is entirely a shallow ship, but i do think both of the kids involved are sort of working out their attraction to each other through a rigid princess knight thing.
TLDR pepsicola is good.
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...... I don't think he would smell like shit because of it. Animal's musk and hair for sure. But not animal shit and piss. Only slobs animal caretakers would smell like that. And for my mental wellbeing I prefer to think Tavros is pretty clean and has good hygiene.
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>>154046769
The opadichon guy also posts here once in a while, youre right, but I dont think I ever saw the HS Italiano guy.
Also I get not wanting to post here, everything that get shilled looks/is so good it kinda feel like lowering the bar, lmao.
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>>154046761
I think Dave likes Jade is because she is the only person that he doesn't feel like needing to fake out a cynical ironic mask and he would not be teased/made fun of if he showed his true feelings. I think Dave cares for Jade because they really have something going on. Not because of machismo or anything like that. Dave likes John but since John is "not a homo" and Rose is not a available option for incest reasons, I can see Jade having a more than welcome crush on Dave and Vice versa. Out of all possible couple combos I'm safe to say grimdorks and davejade where what was supposed to end up eventually mid act4 happenings.
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>>154046923(me)
but i have to agree Pepsicola is really cute. In every level being it platonic or romantic. Dave and John Bromance is something that is worth explorating and creating for. It also helps to highlight that little evil kinda sociopathic Side of John I like so much but rarelly is showed or people know how to handle in writing.
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>>154046581
>Tavros is a cutie that smells like baby powder
Sorry but a wheelchair mode tavros that smells like baby powder because he does doodoo in diapers and needs to cover the smell up will have at least some moments when he fucking reeks.
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>>154046971(me)
maybe not "eeevil" but you know what i mean. makes less of a really serious situation because of their empathy problems. Wich lands for them saying stuff that hurts. Like how he treated Davesprite is a example.
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>>154046914
>but I dont think I ever saw the HS Italiano guy.
I saw a few upd8 posts for that comic and I always assume mspfa updates are always posted by their authors
I think more people should be willing to put themselves out like this, "[mspfa] up8" with a link to it is hardly a very egregious case of attention whoring
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>>154046923
is john straight, or does he think that he is straight?
this john said that he finds dave attractive
and i find it weird how many times hes said hes not homosexual anytime he thinks someone is a boy and flirting with him. call it a shield almost.
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>>154046923
not to discredit the ship.
but i actually find Dave and Jade's conversations to be the most surface level and "fake" out of anyone other than rose and jade. I think Jade in general has a layer of artificiality she maintains just as much as dave, but since that mask is "helpful cheer leader" it goes unnoticed and un challenged. You could aurgue that what dave *needs* is low stakes normal conversations where he can be comfortable, but I would also argue being enabling of his macho man persona isn't the best way to do that. Cause again i don't think he's "being himself" with Jade. I would argue the mask never fully slips off, just aspects of it that are taken off for each person, he isnt cynical or as rude and mean with jade, but he is still flippant and macho.
But this is more of a flaw of Jade's character and not so much Dave, dave just wants to feel useful and appreciated, something Jade understands pretty well herself. So her playing into that is natural because she *likes* that side of him, but she isn't trying to bring out the genuine passionate and heated side of Dave, which is his true personality, and where the time aspect shines, but just enabling what Dave *thinks* he wants to be.
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John also doesn't know how to feel about girls. Like Vriska. Dave asked how he feels about Vriska and he said he doesn't know. I think John is just too dumb or uniterested on by going in relationships by himself. regardless if he finds someone atractive or not. heck maybe he just likes guys more. maybe not. I waiting him making out with Dirk to see his true colors. And not being drag in a relationship he never wanted like with Roxy (because Rose was with Kanaya lmao he was supposed to end up with Rose fucking hell i hate act6 sm)
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>>154047107
>and i find it weird how many times hes said hes not homosexual anytime he thinks someone is a boy and flirting with him. call it a shield almost.
Genuinely, what the fuck is he supposed to say to rebuff romantic advances from other guys if "no thanks, I'm not gay" is apparently a crypto-gay answer?
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>john you have to show me
>i showed you mine
>how else are ever gonna know whose is bigger
>if you dont show me i win by default
>are you seriously gonna let me get away with having the biggest cock in the group
>its no big deal bros show each other their cocks all the time
>john
>listen to me
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>>154047080
I think a lot of people dont post their adventures here because they doubt their own work, or because they dont have adventures to begin with. I doubt this general is that big, so having about 3 or 4 regular posters that do have one is already rare enough.
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>actually implying it wasn't ipgd whispering her ideas into andrew's ears like a scheming she-eunuch she is, plotting behind the scenes to advance her evil plans of forcing the diaperfag agenda upon homestuck
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my opinion is that John is probobly a little bit gay, just a little.
But i also think hes just a silly little guy who cant handle his feelings. So even if he really liked someone you probobly wouldn't know, or it would be expressed really strangely.
The only reason John was so open to date Vriska and later Roxy is because *they* made the first moves. And at least with the first one i think he reciprocated.
Sometimes I dream of a true meeting of act 5 act 2 Vriska and John. Just...chilling. That would be the true test of their feelings. Since i don't think John even knew what vriska looked like lol.
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I remember this wheel, a while ago I made a cleaned up edit featuring Hal and canon dancestor spriters
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Absolutely cringe take. Grimdorks is good because they balance each other out, Rose doesnt baby John and John doesnt let Rose get away with all her psych bullshit without playing straight into her hands. They have a greatt dynamic that can work as both friends and lovers.
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as friends is good, one of the best dynamics in the comic in fact. but i dont see the same sort of spark as i see with other John ships romantically speaking.
Rose is kind of entirely passive. and i honestly dont think John works with passive people.
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>the more active class, the better the ship
CalibornGODS won
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>>154047753
THATS RIGHT ANON,
YOU HAVE DEFEATED ME
TAKE ALL THE HEIRBORN YOU WANT
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made for bed-breaking breeding by ____
you know who i'm talking about
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>>154048110
>meulincest and serketcest
cool and interesting.
>kankri/cronuss
i kneel
>jake/karkat
you always liked it or it is because of the BC updates?
>dirk/john
my brother. and we will thrive to see it become real.
>all the others
i respect. also do self ship with eridan and or roxy?
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>>154048788
>besides karkat and calliope
Why not? He's an ALL CAPS spastic with candy red blood and a sign placed under the lime caste, she's the third rendition of a upbeat green furry girl, both strongly care about romance. Color-wise Karkat's gray is even in the middle of Caliope's light gray and Caliborn's dark gray.
Honestly I'm not exactly sure if they should vacillate or be in just one quadrant but I have a gut feeling *something* is meant to be there
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Thank you, but I already knew of these before I asked (and have them saved). I was specifically thinking of this one >>154046049 , which doesn't seem to exist as a separate image anywhere, sadly.
Why do I need them all? Because I like Vriska. She lives rent-free in my head.
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i like the trolls. i just don't like the execution of their arcs. I feel like act1-4 are pretty consistent regarding the homestuck whole basis. but i feel act5, act6-7 and pos-canon stuff are completly diferent stories and should had been worked better as a anthology of the whole "homestuck saga" in my humble opinion. if possible a resume and better writed act 5 by someone else and mean while hussie would only need to work and resume better act6 as its own thing. like how the lord of the rings have a bunch of diferent books but are essencially telling the same story. gosh imagine actually having act 6 as books that would had been cool desu. hmm if only... imagine homestuck worked in a way that in the end of the day the final didnt felt jarring. because the pacing was even and carefully crafted... and there wasn't much tongue and cheek moments.... amazing..
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I wanna get into making a proper go of a fanadventure, but while I have a rough idea of what I want to do with it thematically, I don't know how to structure it or create a basic fucking outline, are there any resourced I can use?
The theme I'm working with is the idea of moving on, and reflecting on the self destructive nature of fandoms.
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>can't read kana on the fly
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>>154049585
it's true
tealblood pussy got me acting unwise
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I would be rendered a complete and utter vag>>154049953
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>>154049953
you can drill kana in a few days with flashcards https://kana-quiz.tofugu.com/
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>>154049035
calliope and karkat can fit in something similar with what happened to nep why cause (book commentary eridan and nep are protypes for the cherbus) it feel like the same messy red crush, I just prefer calliope and eridan to be a in a black rom(cherbus need black roms due to the other missing half) your idea is not bad im not trying to bash you despite how poorly I might have worded myself
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I haven't actually gotten to properly ironing out blackroms just yet but I actually am considering forking Calliope's pitched feelings towards Eridan for the reason you've mentioned. Still, there's been one thing that stopped me from feeling as certain about pitched Callidan as about flushed Eriroxy and pale Erikar, namely the fact that despite the cherubs feeling black for each other, Eridan was actually red for Nepeta. Even with Eridan and Nepeta being "early drafts", straightforward analogies can go so far, apparently
Maybe I should just give up and erase Calliope-Karkat link for now, right now I'm busy getting mad over the immensely strong viability of Davenep vs how it absolutely fucks up everything Dave-related anyway
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And like to be honest that whole thing can just be chalked up at eridan being desperate and the fact that nep was just being red for karkat, ideally if everything worked out eri and nep would be friends due to feeling some sort of pity towards me (fef and nep blackrom would be ideal if you want to handle want to deal with the prophecy of fef uniting the two races, the ghost dont count if they did then sollux would have done more by connecting the trolls and the beta kids) see this is like the issue with trying to do an ideal good ships you have to know so many bubbles and figure out how they puzzle went before game over
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This one posted by calgvlasaqvarivm?
It's pretty solid and fucking hilarious, but I've got a couple of issues with it, in particular Davetav, while it felt like it made sense initially, it also went off rails for reasons I could elaborate on
Also the the full wheel included Jadenep, and while I see the idea I'm frankly just not feeling it compared to the obscenely strong symbolic viability of Davenep.
I guess my issue is that I'm trying assuming the individual viability of each ship rather than than assuming the primacy of pairing the spares at any cost. I'm not gonna deepthroat Hussie by assuming he's a 5D chessmaster who planned out every single pairing and quadrant in advance just because he definitely did so with a few of them.
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It has its fans, but you're right that it's very niche there, especially compared to works that were inspired by it. It doesn't have a complete translation so you pretty much have to be a competent English reader to get into it. Which is not a terribly large segment of the Japanese population. It's not impossible to translate, but I think the audience isn't quite there. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze.
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>>154052881
homestuck is so unbearably coated in american culture its downright impenetrable by a good 60 percent of foreigners.
I would fall into the category of the other 40 percent. As funny enough i learned english THROUGH homestuck. And many of the cultural cliches of america i learned through it.
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"Brothermine you shouldn't act so flustered from common banter"
"you did the blowjob motion, with the tongue poking the cheek and everything"
Kanaya is there and very confused.
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Thinking about that time the pilot dropped and some nips in youtube comments and on twitter were saying shit like
>oh, so this is what Toby-sensei was contributing to before he made undertale? That already makes it sound promising, I'm looking forward to learning more about it!
while everyone else was telling them not to fucking get into it
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>>154053060
honestly it would really be best if the unoffical homestuck collection had a wider collection of "canon" you could dive into to get more context about things. Like, i didnt know what a juggalo was, i thought he was just a clown. I didn't know the deal with faygo, i still really don't.
I didn't understand the 50s men icons peppered through the comic and so on. And only with more recent readings do i fully understand.
that being said i retract the word unberable, as i think its actually cool how unabashed homestuck is in terms of the context of its text. I just wish there was someone to help me out when i needed it 15 years ago.
that and i wish i had the tool to turn off typing quirks cause i couldnt read some of them.
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>>154053127
its so fucking cringe how cucked homestuck heads are that fans tell people not to get into it.
Now im in favor of exercising healthy caution and being prepared for the cluster fuck that is homestuck, but dissuading people from reading it is cringe.
Funny, someone wanted to watch a lore recap video so they could read my fanfics, but i told them to read the comic or i wouldn't give them the link, so im doing my part.
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I've seen a post from a few threads ago talking about John and I am having similar issues regarding him for my idea of an Act 6 rewrite.
Vriska would be an obvious choice but I think the bittersweet moment of her dating ghost John is the perfect conclusion to her character and anymore screentime would be overstaying her welcome.
Terezi is the blackrom choice, but I like to imagine Karkat takes the role of Vriska in fighting English with Terezi flying around to search for him. So I can only imagine how much John misses her.
Roxy would be too preoccupied with Eridan (in this rewrite dancestors do not exist)
Jade is tempting but I am not too sure how viable it will be. I don't know who else (alive or in dreambubble) would John find interesting.
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>>154053482
Homestuck is like a hard drug: you hit incredible highs around A4-A5 that will absolutely reprogram your mind in best ways possible but after that you suffer from awful side effects like narcolepsy during A6A5 or a violent anal rupture the first time you watch Vriskagram, only putting up with all of that nonsense because you're stuck endlessly chasing the cascade dragon. Even after you're done with the comic itself, with a terrible hangover after a lame ending, you'll still desperately try get your fix by reading shitty fanfics with OOC characterizations or mid mspfas that go on forever.
Is it worth it? I think everyone on /hsg/ thinks so, otherwise we wouldn't be here. But are the side effects like chronic coping and seething because of the wasted potential and unsatisfying writing in the last third of the comic something you'd normally subject others to, at least without prior a warning? Debatable
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James Roach is well known for putting on a wholesome act but generally being a vindictive asshole though.
He's also such a little pearl clutcher. Dipshit was afraid of the crowd at a pride parade in fucking Anaheim.
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If I could change one thing about Homestuck it would be that during John's dreambubble wandering, after he set down the dream Warhammer of Vrillyhoo he never picks up another hammer again. Further fights are done with just his bare fists, to emphasize his connection to his dad and the mangrit he inherited and wants to live up to. Other people could make cool weapons but he refuses, saying he wants to fight barehanded.
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`dad doesn't exclusively fight barehanded, in fact he employs a lot of the trickster items, as well as shaving cream and other manly items when he fights.
I also feel that centering John's ark about becoming a mans man like that sort of misses the point of john. He isn't really supposed to be that kind of man, He is meant to escape what he thinks a man is from his own limited point of view, and likely isn't even what his father was trying to mold him into, considering how supportive he always was.
Theres also the fact that John is generally way less manly than like, most guys in the series save for Karkat. Jane inherits more of daddy egberts strength than john does.
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i legit think hussie atp is asocial schizo and a retard that needs his friends and partner to talk for him lol. so he doesnt say anything weird again like he used to. but that is just the impression i have. i dont really know. maybe he just likes to stay away from the public and just be a model nowadays.
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Well yeah the trickster items are stereotypical dadly items or cakes, which is also part of him. But John already defaulted to fisticuffs when knocking out Vriska and facing Caliborn. He's also someone who wanted to complete his planet quest and fulfill the potential Skaia saw in him, and live up to his dad's expectations of him. And he abandoned his own trickster items when the role of hero became more appealing to him. Like how his personal quote says
>"Absence diminishes little desires and increases great ones, just as wind extinguishes candles and fans a fire."
You could say he abandoned hammers because they reminded him of the childhood he lost through everything that happened, and was looking for meaning of his own to replace it.
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Well thats framing it more around maturity and growing up rather than being more "manly". And again i dont think theres ever that sense of expectations placed upon john, unlike everyone else in the franchise. John's dad literally adopted clown shit in the attempt to connect with him, so i don't think John's dad was trying to mold john into a "MAN" but into a man, aka a normally functional adult. With how much into gender shit Homestuck gets into i feel it necessary to separate those two concepts because of how catastrophic it goes when someone really tries to mold someone into the archetypal heroic male figure, Dave Strider.
I do kind of like the thread of John using bear knuckles as some form of more primal aggression. Because he *really* beats the shit out of caliborn, and is basically the only guy in all of paradox space John truly hates. Idk how to tie that into vriska but whatever.,
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>because of how catastrophic it goes when someone really tries to mold someone into the archetypal heroic male figure, Dave Strider.
That's the thing, Dave and John aren't the same people. John has a hero complex and had to be dissuaded multiple times from taking actions that would've resulted in his willing death. Dave was molded to be an ideal hero and became disgusted with it all, and rejected both his role and his powers. He said this was his position as a "reluctant hero" but he really just didn't want to be a hero at all.
John in contrast WANTS to be a hero. It fills in the void he feels, paralleling Terezi, who uses strong emotions to fill in her void. John completed his quest the way Skaia wanted him to, he reached the god tiers the traditional way as well. But he's often kept out of things and only arrives or learns things much later than other people due to it, which feeds into that void.
Maybe Roxy could've given him martial arts lessons.
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look you don't need to get so defensive. i'd molest your niece if i were you too. there's no shame in it guy. we all do it sometimes. You just need to own up to it is all. Own it like man, you diddy ahh blud
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>>154058211
Lil bro youre a lobotomite saying nothing but the same porn memes you learned during covid
I'm already humiliating Gooseworx for his lame identity death finale fetishizing/justifying his social group pushing him to renounce his male identity, I can do lots more before the social signal goes out that you fucked up
And be aware that I get riled up about doing this
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I've said it 8efore 8ut I like... oh wait nvm I was just a8out to say somethin6 stupid. Alternia IS a matriarchy. And so is 8eforus. Females have the dominant position. Well, if you say that the troll "females" are actually females in the 8iolo6ical sense, and not 8iolo6ically male (8iolo6ically, in the way that they 6ive their 6enetic... slurry to the mother 6ru8 to fertilize her e66s), which I think they are.
Aside from that, the mother 6ru8 is treated as a sacred... thin6. I remem8er one anon somewhere may8e talkin6 a8out how 6amzee's use of the word "motherfucker" didn't make sense 8ecause trolls don't have the concept of parenthood like we do, 8ut they do have a mother 6RU8, so that could 8e referencin6 that.
Anyways, 8ack to what I was sayin6. I like to think that troll society is matriarchal. Not just in the way that their leaders are all female, 8ut in the way that females have a dominant societal position. I suppose insertin6 one's sexual interests into a narrative may have detrimental effects on its quality, 8ut nonetheless, Hussie and his 8lue8lood fetish has no hypothetical room for ar6umentation. I di6ress. Ahhh the thou6ht of a hot and/or cute troll 6irl takin6 one look at me (human male of the superior human race) and wantin6 to put me on a leash like an exotic pet. Cherished yet inferior. It's titlatin6. Especially if she's a filthy lowb100d.
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i would pay 6ood money for a 8ronze8looded cutie to put me on a leash. Man i need to 6o to sleep what am i even postin6 rn
just... ima6ine. a shy and timid (inferior-8looded) 6irl. Near 8ottom of her caste system. As soon as she perceives herself as in a position of power over someone (me 8tw) she uses and immediately a8uses it. Kind of like tavros tried to do when he first tried to troll Dave. Or in the dream 8u88les fuckin6 with John.
May8e I just want Tavros to pull me around on a leash. That's weird. That's a weird thin6 to say and want. I should pro8a8ly specify that in this fantasy he is 6enderswapped. For the sake of heterosexuality, of course.
On that note I think, honestly, all the male characters should've 8een female and the female characters male. It would've 8een su8versive almost. Male Vriska would 8e a tum8lr sexyman or somethin6 (did i use that term ri6ht?), and fuckin6... femkat would 8e fucka8le. May8e. In my mind she would 8e, and that's all that matters. Man i really do need to do more retrospection if I find male characters' personalities attractive. Or may8e not.
Anyways 8ack to the 8ronze8lood. All the 8ronzai 8uddies i've seen have 8een just soooooo cute!! Which is just Homestuck and Hiveswap, and some fanventures. 8ut whatever.
You know what's fucked up? All the trolls in Hiveswap are 8asically just different versions of the characters of their respective caste that we've seen in Homestuck (all the purple8loods are clowns (despite 6amzee's clown reli6ion 8ein6 called somethin6 to the effect of "niche" iirc), Ardata LITERALLY just fuckin6 8ein6 Vriska 8ut with 5 less eyes, etc.) It just makes Troll World seem so much more... 8land and stereotypical. As if the trolls we've seen are just some random, everyday fuckin6 6uys and not THE Trolls. If every one is like them, then it sort of devalues them in my mind,
Also femtavros cute and needs more art.
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Rose and Dave
Still fucking like teenagers long after they've become oldstucks (still would).
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Isn't it fucked up how trolls NEED a mother6ru8 to survive? It's an important, inte6ral part of their species. It's not even an Alternian thin6 either since there was a Mother 6ru8 on 8eforus as well. Hmm I'm startin6 to consider endin6 my 6immick postin6. Somethin6 somethin6 sunk cost fallacy, commitment to the 8it 8lah 8lah 8lah 8ut whatever.
Anyways, as I was sayin6, I haven't read all of Prisoune8ound. 8ut from the small tid8its of spoilers I've 6athered, trolls in that universe use to 8e a8le to 8reed?? Normally??? A8stract and weird concept with no 8asis in canon, 8ut interestin6 nonetheless. May8e I'm autistic, 8ut I am physically repulsed 8y the idea of mischaracterization and/or 6ettin6 lore details wron6.
Man do you know I was 6onna make a fuckin6 S8ur8 thin6 so I was all like "well time to look at the rules for S8ur8 to make sure all my characters have all the details in line with what each S8ur8 player usually has". A8solute fuckin6 mistake. HAVE YOU FUCKIN6 SEEN HOW THE 6ATES WORK??? I can't conceptualize what was 6oin6 on inside Hussie's dru6-addled, mentally ill mind when he made Homestuck, 8ut I know that whatever it was, it was some fuuuuuucked up shit. Normally people don't make shit that convoluted and hard to understand. He's on a whole 'nother level for some reason 8eyond me.
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I see. Thank you, anon, 8ut I must ask: which part are you referrin6 to? I did say a lot of stuff. Was it a8out the characters 8ein6 6enderswapped? Or was it the flanderization of entire castes of trolls in Hiveswap? I'm curious to know what resonated with your mind wavvvvves. I don't know why I said mind waves, that's not a thin6 I normally say.
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What the fuck was Kurloz' pro8lem even? Fuckin6 weird clown 8astard. A8usin6 his kitty6irlfriend... And she just sits there and takes it.
Isn't it also funny how it's implied that Kurloz and Meulin smoke to6ether? That's funny. She even calls it catnip. I want art or Nepeta and Meulin tokin up a fat 8lunt, or however the nomenclature of dru6 paraphernalia 6oes.
I also find it funny how Meulin uses the word "mo6" multiple times. I was readin6 8ack on transcripts of Open8ound, specifically Meulin's lines, and she says it. Like, multiple times. It's a mispellin6 of OM6, 8ut still. It's humorous to see it used. I think I even chuckled at it.
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I see. Well I suppose that's fine as well. She is cute after all.
And, a6ain, in my mind, Homestuck, specifically the trolls, 8ut all the characters in 6eneral, should've 8een 6enderswapped. Not only 8ecause I find the idea of femtavros 8ein6 8ullied 8y male vriska to 8e hot, 8ut also 8ecause I feel it just... ADDS depth to every character inexplica8ly. John 8ein6 a cute 6eek 6irl? Su8versive. Whatever male Kanaya and Porrim would have 6oin6 on? Unique and 6rond8reakin6. Eridan's whole thin6? Extremely arousin6. 8ut may8e I'm just ima6inin6 thin6s in a semi-sleep deprived delirum.
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>I'd argue several have surpassed Homestuck
nta (o8viously) 8ut names? Which do you think have surpassed Homestuck?
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Been away for too long. But I´m back.
https://r9.whiteboardfox.com/96115643-5703-7991
Here´s your thicc pirate Anon. unfortunatly I could only make her legs. Anything else is covered under her cloack and her chabot.
If you wanna give her the knockers. DO it yourself and draw her taking her coat to make the big boobas sloosh as you like. Knock yourself out anons.
The only question I want to ask is: Should I give her a hat?
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She looks like the Little Prince
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>>154059306
Say... that would be kinda neat to add to the reference pool. Peter Pan and Treasure planet are kinda alone among the 21th Century animu and movies I got from to inspire the setting.
Anyway. Thanks for the compliment
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Better? I wanted to improvise a Troll skull for her Jolly Roger, and I hope I had conveyed it´s eyes are the dices giving Snake eyes.
hOPE THAT YOU LIKE IT. vRISKA.
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Still I have to hone down the details. And also GOtta modify theDancestors to my designs for better accuracy for my "endgame".
Till then. Apreciate it.
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>What the fuck was Kurloz' pro8lem even?
He was most likely mindraped by Cronus' nightmare-inducing bard powers(we saw Gamzee do similar stuff with John and Dave, pic related) something inside him broke and he turned into a LE-worshipping satanist.
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>Thanks for the compliment
You're welcome, anon, keep it up
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Thanks. Gotta go. I wanna sleep now an d I want to sleep at least 5 hours. Hopefully 6
At least I started to maek the Darkleer. Misterious big ass guy vibes (I gravitate to this guy because Saint Seiya made me think Sagitarius was the coolest sign. Thank you Aioros.)
Cya. Take care
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Steelcorridor. Old HS artist. You can find more on the booru
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>all these guy friends for Tavros and not a single girl(ESPECIALLY Aradia) even though most of his troll friends in the comic were girls(lol gay) and he legitimately didn't even have any interaction with Sollux
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The game is over, but life isn't a story that ends.
Now there's nothing left to chase. He has to let go to actually be free. That's his Breath arc coming full circle.
Problem is Homestuck’s writing has real issues in the back half. Hussie clearly burned out, the pacing collapses, threads get dropped, and the epilogues especially feel lazy and mean-spirited. They had the perfect setup for John’s arc and still whiffed it
Oh well
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The Amazing Digital Circus ends with Jax becoming a mindbroken puppy because it twists around the ‘evil masculinity’ he blatantly exhibits of wanting to break in your pretentious girl to be submissive and squealing for daddy, especially a feminist or lesbian or ftm one.
I personally know about this because ipgd gooned about making me “her pet dumbass” as she was ruining my opportunity to be a Homestuck team member to KC Green and others for me (guy/Lovecraft’s cat) rejecting feminism, lgbtq, and Bernie socialism.
You cannot unread this brainrape for woke losers. I took off my name and will repost it to especially brainrape people who had me namefiltered. This truthbombing will have a irreversible effect on the reception of Digital Circus, and doing this makes me feel alive in the groin.
I woke up and immediately came up with this idea. Reconsider your gay urges to fuck with me, since you've lost all ability to contribute to the torturous life I was living during Covid and before.
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>The Amazing Digital Circus ends with Jax becoming a mindbroken puppy because
because he was a piece of shit who pushed away anyone who wanted to help him, and pushed multiple of his friends to abstraction.
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dont worry anon...