How do I know if my BAC water is real or bunk?
What would happen if it wasn't real? Just a risk of infection or would the compound not work at all?

>>77100551
just infection risk, which is kind of small anyways unless its contaminated from disgusting indians

Is it time to go back to clinic bros? The test situation kind of sucks. I don't even mind the price but I'm worried about availability. I'm also worried that my established sources will fold and finding new sources can suck.

Rub my head and console me sisters. I can't give up this life.

>>77100548
Isn’t that roidtranny dead as fuc?

>>77100774
Yes I strive to be him in every way.

>>77100548
>where do i start
>reddit
bad sign already

>>77100834
>he doesn't look at the failures of redditors doing 150mg/wk and getting no results

>>77100227
ah hadn't thought of that. that'd make sense. maybe 12 hours a week lifting is too much..... maybe. lol

>>77100770
Just buy 10 vials from a reputable source and you’re set for 1-5 years depending on dose and whether you want to blast or not. I personally have something like 120 vials of test, 70 vials primo, 50 vials mast, 50 vials eq, 30 vials npp, 30 vials tren, 15 vials dhb, 15 injectable sdrol, 15 tne and a bunch of other random oils and orals just in case the shortage lasts longer than expected.

>>77100917
Don’t want to waste the blast though, you know? The whole point is to get fucking huge

>>77100770
last pricelist i got from the Worldwide Wrestling Bederation had test p/u. tranny's latest list added c to 5th eu, so maybe the us will get a batch after their ops recover from chinese new year

>>77100922
yeah mentally i'm locked in. would be fun to get some of the effects i read about, but, eh. i'd rather keep working on my body dysmorphia (making it worse, i mean)

>>77100923
*to the eu. holy fuck i'm retarded

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I don't think I care about negative health consequences or dying anymore
Also don't care about being Mr Olympia big, just being leaner and bigger than my peers
It's a weird position to be in, I like roiding, the process of it, the results etc
Would add tren but I need a lot of cardio capacity rn
Probably some hormonal imbalance maybe anhedonia

>>77100548
$5 in monero to the fucker that can give me a good routine to follow while juiced, i don't care if it's retarded to ask, i just need a routine to follow. put your monero address in your reply

how can i boost my growth hormone + igf levels if i dont have access to a fridge? im currently cruising on 8ius per day but the gh vials need refrigeration and soon i wont have access to a fridge. does anyone know what else i can use?

>>77101168
>Start with a PPL
>Look at yourself in the mirror, pay attention to proportions
>Add volume for muscles that are PROPORTIONALLY small
>Lower volume for muscles that are PROPORTIONALLY big
My split is Chest and Tri's, Back and Bi's, Shoulders + Arms with a forearm focus, Whatever is lagging day, Legs, Off weekends
Congrats you're a bodybuilder

>>77101228
bro if you're going somewhere with no refrigeration you've got bigger fish to fry

anyone else feel like this is the only decent thread on this board these days?

>>77101240
it has its moments

>>77101238
its temporary, for a job
anyway has anyone tried tesamorelin?

>>77100770
>Open website
> Buy 8 vials of testosterone c/e (if you really want only the TRT aspect of it, just buy undecanoate)
> Open website
> Buy syringes and needles
>Receive it all
>Start
>Oh my god I have xyz questions
>Open the wiki (reddit) stated in this thread
>doubts resolved
>money saved
>I'm not a stupid faggot incapable of understanding what to do with my own body anymore.

>>77101240
Yes but it's awful as well.

People who take Reta meme are so pathetic. They're like cattle in my opinion. The funniest thing to me is when they try to justify taking this crap and not tirrisepide because Reta has "the added benefit of working with your glucagon too" lmao. They don't even know how to reconstitute a peptide, what are the chances of them understanding what that means? Cattle. At the same time they're saying this, they're always complaining about Reta's heart rate. It's really the drug of a Reddit guy.

>>77101168
800mg tren
Just do random shit with rings in the middle of the gym to mog everyone

Can I make good gains on 250mg test for life? I don't want to get too bulky.

>>77101561
Obviously yes. 250mg permanently will give way more gains than a 500mg cycle.

>>77101240
how do guys survive on deca only cycles

>>77101561
if you run 250 forever and stay disciplined with your training regiment and diet yes literally you can make great gains over time and you can control not getting “too bulky” by relaxing on one of or all 3 of those disciplines (workout schedule, nutrition, cycle dose)

.25 or .5 mg adex for a 500 test/wk cycle?

>>77101920
adex twice a week btw

>>77100919
I understand buying ahead, but more than 2 years? You really trust that shit for that long?

>120 vials of test
At 1g a week that will last for 300 weeks or 6 years, a little over the top no?

>>77100770
What do you even mean,
Literally every source is stocked up on test, there’s a couple without test e, but everyone has test c. Even mast and primo are back at major sources

>>77101372
Reta decimates liver fat so it really is that good.

>>77101920
>>77101923
depends on current body fat %, current e2 levels and results of initial tolerance assessment.
generally speaking you want to use as little as possible.

>>77101924
yeah it's almost like role playing shut ins are hopping from thread to thread larping out of their ass

Getting a headache on Reta, how much electrolytes am I supposed to take? Like should I care about their ratio? Should I measure how much salt I eat through food or just wing it?

>>77102137
Eat more frites.

>>77101798
good question. I never understood why one would use only nandrolone.

>>77101920
dosage varies by person anon
but always try to use the minimum

>>77100919
have you ever read about expiration? you imbecile.

>>77102137
ngl I read your post and just lol'd because the >>77101372

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>>77101924
I’m not going to get into all the reasons why every drug has an official expiration of 2 years or less, but the short version is that 2 years is the longest period of time that a manufacturer can claim without providing proof to the FDA. In reality, if stored properly, roids will last for literally decades with minor losses in potency (just like many other drugs). Basically I have my stash (the top shelf stuff), my backup stash (the good stuff), my backup backup stash (cheaper, slightly suspect quality), the emergency stash (random home brew vials, sources that exit scammed shortly after I got my order) and stuff I hand out to other people (probably will give you an abscess, use at your own risk). At this point though I’ve been offloading all the lower-tier stuff at huge profit so I only have verified good shit left.
>>77101978
Get fucked nigger

>>77102194
See >>77102204
expiration is essentially a non-issue and realistically I can sell or give away anything that I’m not going to use. There are jano tests on 10 to 15 year old vials that show they’ve lost 2-5% potency over that period, not something worth worrying about.

>>77102204
>posts 10 year prison sentence worth of gear to prove anonymous wrong
damn you really showed that guy

>>77102241
Come find me fed.

>>77102204
Fair play, it was me who asked about it.

I understand the expiry is bullshit. But I was kinda thinking mct oil starts to go rancid or something, I’ve heard grapeseed oil def doesn’t last forever. Anyway Godspeed

>>77102264
MCT lasts a really long time, GSO lasts maybe three years or so. Pretty much everything I have now is mct or migylol812

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>>77102319
That's Tim Pool tier

We're reaching Norwood levels previously thought impossible

>>77102210
I thought you were joking but you really have 200 vials lmao
I would like to take back what I said and apologize.
Based anon.

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>>77100548

>>77102517
very very homosexually charged
thank god my cock works id kill myself

>>77102319
Shit physique. Is he on more than trt?

>>77100548
Day 10 RAD-140. 10mg ED + 6.25mg Enclo.

>Strength+Endurance way, way up, surprisingly so.
>Muscles feeling hard and dry
>Feeling overall optimistic + clear minded
>Anxiety way, way down

>Dreams a little weird/Sleep is harder
>Morning grogginess
>Quicker to anger but nothing crazy
>Libido down, which is unexpected. Haven’t fapped for 5 days.

Probably going to drop down to 5mg from tomorrow.

>>77102319
We have always known he wore a hair system on dot org only newfags don’t know that

>>77101228
GH is fine outside of the fridge for some time. I'm on 3iu and the vials last me 8 days, all unrefrigerated.

>>77102897
do you think you could have 20 vials outside lasting months in the southern hemisphere summer going on right now?

Is hcg a good idea/required for a test only cycle? Is a test only cycle even worth it? I’ve been thinking about hopping on TRT. I’ve been to a “male health clinic” but they convinced me to hop on Eclomiphene instead of test. It didn’t do a whole lot for me, I got terrible anxiety and gyno from it. But I don’t love the idea of my balls shrinking, losing fertility, permanently having to take a medication or ruin my natural hormone production. I’m thinking cycling is the way to go. But I’m not super familiar with any other androgens besides testosterone.
Yes, I’ve seen the memes about dbol and tren growing your head or making you want to fuck trannies. But as far as body composition goes, I’m unsure what effects these different compounds have on your body or which ones are ideal for different goals.

>>77102897
Janoshik literally left GH in the sun for months and found it barely degraded, it's fine

>>77102319
wheres this fellas triceps

>>77102917
Are you reconstituting 20 vials at once? Or are you talking about the powder form which can stay out for years?

been running 250 test for a while. I want to add more gear, should I add test or primo/mast?

>>77102797
oh look xisters, mister "280 lbs with bigger arms than you'll ever have 'cuz muh superior genetics" fat faggot is branching out

>>77102931
oh my actual fucking god. your clinic is shit. you are shit. nothing will ever work for you, because you're so fucking lazy you never bothered to even enter google dot fucking com into your web browser. give up everything now before you hurt yourself, you absolute simple minded fuck. we're on a mongolian throat singing board, and you are the single dumbest fucking person who has ever posted here. fuck off
>> no fucking verification required
fuck you

>>77100548
If you could travel back in time to your 18 year old self what advice would you give your younger self?

>>77103282
add a better diet, better routine, and some self fucking control. 250 is already beyond trt. look further up this thread. someone literally already posted an answer to your question

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YOU CAN LEARN A LOT
DOING PEDS IS REALLY FUN
BUT STOPPING THEM IS NOT

>>77102931
>>77103339
what this guy said. i can smell the onions on you

>>77103345
Fuck her, and also fuck her she is into you, also her, maybe her but just try she is wishy washy.

>>77103346
you're retarded. I don't give a fuck about what is TRT, I want to add more gear and I'm wondering if I should add more test or something else. stop being a crybaby

>>77103339
Why do you say this ?

I take tren and never wanted to fuck trannies, only jerked off to them.

>>77103376
shit I do that on a cruise

>>77103352
Add 250 test (500 total) and 300 primo or EQ. Adjust the dosages to get your e2 where you want it and you’ll be g2g. There are other options but honestly this is probably the best option as it can become the base for future cycles. All of my cycles now are basically high test, something to control e2 and a little something extra (npp, tren, or sdrol)

>>77102241
>he doesn’t smoke crack and run Tren
PUSSY

>>77103113
>>77103228
really? the freeze dried powder can stay out of the fridge for years? are you sure?
i had a look around and it seems that even just shipping it between the lab and your house degrades it by about 10%

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>>77103339
This.

>>77103345
Understand that life's suffering.
Have some religion that will serve as a moral compass.
Don't care about friends, you'll change or lost them.
Don't care about girlfriends, you'll change or lost them.
Care about you and your career, study, have a proper career, physician, cop, fireman, etc things that need a person doing it.
After that, start a family. Get married. Have kids.
Don't get fat or too unhealthy. Instead, hit the gym religiously.
Times pass really fast, you'll blink and pfff, it's over.

>>77103641
Light degrades it, the shorter the wavelength the faster the rate of degradation. Heat degrades it in an exponential way with <30C being negligible.
Oxygen degrades it, depends how well the chinks vacuumed it/ if they N2 flushed not much you can do.
Bacteria degrades it, again not really up to you.

It usually degrades very quickly from like 99% to around 90% then just stays like that for decades

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>>77100548
What do you guys do for pain when you’re on anavar?

Internet says due to anavar toxicity, taking NSAIDs are not recommended.

>>77103738
ok ill trust you, ill keep the vials vacuum sealed and in a lightproof box
thanks (assuming youre telling the truth)

>>77103951
I still take NSAIDS but sparingly on var, but I am not being safe/healthy on purpose. That being said it barely helps anyways lol. I just groan and complain constantly and use the pain as an excuse to not do shit with people I hate.

>>77103998
He is right, but never take what anons say here as law without looking it up yourself. Some people like to shitpost and make stuff ip.

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>>77102319
>your face when

>>77102838
>on dot org
>>77103339
>google dot fucking com
What's up with that?

>>77103345
>If you could travel back in time to your 18 year old self what advice would you give your younger self?
BITCOIN IS NOT A MEME AND IN 10 YEARS IT WILL MAKE YOU OBSCENELY RICH SO START MINING RIGHT NOW, BUY THREE MORE COMPUTERS AND MINE FOR A YEAR

What's the raloxifene protocol for already developed gyno?

Experiences with kisspeptin (10 or 54)

>>77103374
a LOT of docs just don't know a damn thing about hormones, but they DO know they saw a thing from the 90s that said exogenous hormones are the devil. there's also a ton of fear mongering over le permanent shutdown, meaning you'll never be able to come off exogenous testosterone. the issue there is, until very recently, testosterone has had one of those fun fda black labels, so nobody really wants to touch it let alone do a long term study on it. anecdotal evidence says that's malarkey though, and you'll recover mostly fine if you decide trt isn't for you. i say mostly, because you have aged, and natural production drops as you age no matter what. that's how you end up with these meme treatments. just take test. shots, gel, implants. doesnt matter. docs run clinics as a side hustle because it's all pretty cookie cutter, so it's an easy extra $40-$300/person/month for them to write a scrip, and review a blood panel a few times a year. a lot of clinics are just assholes looking to cash in. a few clinics actually give a shit. point being they are not equal, and you should shop around. you should also find a dozen sites that talk about it (that are NOT listicles. 100% of those sites are trash), mull them over, form an opinion, then find a place that agrees with you that fills in your knowledge gaps. and, no. hcg is not required. you can still knock someone up on a blast. sure, you'll have more swimmer with hcg, but you're not sterile. one aas was actually studied as a male contraceptive (trestolone?), and even it was 60% effective. if you end, 350iu twice a week is plenty

>>77103404
thank you king

If we're being somewhat rational what's a reasonable tren cycle length?

>>77103404
Why superdrol? Honest question.

Has anyone tried aasvault? Somebody told me E R O I Ds was a good site to find legitimate sources online. And they list aasvault as a legitimate source. But a google search shows people talking about how they got scammed their products are bunk… I just don’t understand why it’s so difficult to find a legitimate source out why people seem to be so adamant about gate keeping theirs.

Trt 180mg + rad 140

How retarded am I

>>77100551
im crying
why would someone sell fake bac water, its so fucking cheap already
jesus christ man

>>77103347
IT GETS WORSE HERE EVERYDAY

>>77104705
Honestly, it’s just fun. I can only really run it for maybe two weeks before I start feeling like shit but in that time the effects are crazy. Strength goes through the roof, muscles absolutely gorge on glycogen so you appear to double in size almost overnight, as much or more of an “on roids” feeling mentally than tren, pinos so intense that it feels like your skin might split open from just a couple more reps. Then the lethargy starts to kick in and you can’t sustain the intensity and you have to drop it. But while it lasts it’s pretty cool. I have a buddy that does one week on, one week off for an entire 20 week cycle but these days I usually just run it pwo for a little boost.

>>77104807
Here’s the conundrum, if you’re not smart enough to find a source, you’re not smart enough to use the gear.

I’ll throw some bones though… there are forums on the internet where people discuss steroids, imagine people engaging in Steroid Source Talk, vetting all of the sources and reviewing their gear. If you can’t use google or chat gpt to find a forum full of steroid source talk, then you’re beyond help

>>77104856
Based. I like Anadrol/oxymetholone myself but I can't run it too long as well. It gives a really good strength and pump but be careful with your tendons, it's easy to get too excited with this nigga

>>77104860
>Here’s the conundrum, if you’re not smart enough to find a source, you’re not smart enough to use the gear.
100% agree. Jesus anon, just use the Internet

>>77104812
idk nigga i just started reta and hgh and i dont feel anything
its just a hypothetical question

>>77105006
You don't feel anything. They are peptides not cocaine

>>77104809
Ur fine bro, rad140 is chill I'm on 25mg and 12.5 enclo

I would say just go up to 300 test, or like 30mg rad one or the other

>>77105118
Been on test like 2 weeks now don’t feel it . Maybe its not worth it.

>>77101154
You're not alone. I was like that until everything got better on my life. I'm there with you. Just looking fitter than 90% of everyone is fucking great. Though I'm very mindful of the fuckery I'm doing to my body. I don't know how guys can do tons of androgens. The anxiety I get from every chest ache sore drives me nuts. Turns out chest exercises bring out costo in me.

>>77105165
give it 3 more weeks lol

Sorta bored on blast, not demotivated but not stoked like other times
600 test, 400 eq, 400 mast, 200 deca
thinking of the bottle of halo I have just to mix things up, have var too, probably could order something like anadrol/superdrol i suppose

What's a better pct for 500mg test e/wk for 16 weeks? Have nolvadex on hand.

>40mg 2 weeks then 20mg 2 weeks
Or
>20mg for 6 weeks

>>77104378
100mg ed for a few weeks, and prayer maxxing

>>77104696
8-10 weeks

>>77104809
rad is whatever. taking it alone is retarded. you fell for the sarms meme, but you're fine
>>77105006
>>77105065
this. you're not gonna "feel" anything. maybe tingle fingers from hgh, and nausea/diarrhea from reta
>>77105165
six weeks to saturation.... and you're not gonna feel anything. maybe you'll notice something if you pay attention, but i'm willing to bet you're so unaware of your own being that don't even wash your own ass because you think it makes you gay

>>77104998
Yeah, I like adrol as well. I just ended up with like 30 vials of sdrol for really cheap so I’ve been using that instead. I actually prefer adrol for strength but the look on sdrol is fucking crazy. Perfect way to finish a cycle.

>>77105222
Up the test nigger. 600 ain’t shit. I’d literally double the eq and the test if I were you. Probably double the mast while you’re at it.

>>77105222
I am noticing a lack of Trenebolone.

>>77105065
>You don't feel anything
NTA and I "felt" tirzepatide the next day after my first pin. I just stopped wanting to eat whatsoever. No cravings at all

>>77105223
Do 6 weeks. Doubling the dose is mostly a meme
You'd knew this if you read the steroid wiki on reddit like I told you before. But you ignored it

>>77104809
>>77105118
The enclo faggot says youre good so take that as you will

>>77105165
>>77105600
I didn't say he's good I said up the dose

You can get a respectable 1500+ test equivalent from 25mg rad140

If he's gonna be at a trt dose below 200mg then he should up the rad or vice versa

If he told us the rad dose we'd have more info

>>77105573
That's true, but idk if he's using tirz, reta users don't feel this appetite suppression like on tirz.

>>77105165
2 weeks is nothing. Give it 8 weeks

>>77105223
Are you unable to read the reddit wiki?

The Tren paranoia grows every day, I have cut back down to 200/wk so I just have to survive a little bit for the Enanthate esther to dissipate. In my head everything makes sense but there are too many variables to say for certain. I remain vigilant writing notes in my phone app keeping track of thinga that could be lies or that might not add up, it’s turning into those “Crazy detective” memes like in Always Sunny where Charlie is looking for Pepe Silvia. But it is extremely weird looking at it from my point of view knowing it is Tren induced paranoia, but also not being positive it is 100% delusions, when everything points to a little of column A and column B to distinguish completely.

I'd probably go insane with tren paranoia
I'm pretty paranoid as is in my everyday life
Not gonna use tren though. I don't want sides this severe

>>77105722
Definitely journal everything coz tren screws up with your memories of events

Then look back on your notes to ground yourself, remember it's not how you remember it, it's how it's written down

The real head kicker is when you start thinking that someone else has been writing in your journal

>>77105995
You have to go pretty heavy for tren paranoia. Im a schizo at the best of times and i’ve never had tren paranoia. Just insomnia, night sweats and high blood pressure.

>>77106035
Yeah I already have bad memory from years of benzo abuse but I genuinely feel 40 IQ lower.
>>77105995
It really isn’t bad from 50-200mg/wk but once you go past 400mg it is a circus fun house.

derm appointment tomorrow
its so unmotivating knowing he wont be able to do anything with terminal acne
my biggest regret ever was doing steroid, 500 test-e ruined my life
i will never be able to go on gay cruises now
please dont make my mistake, stay away from the roid,
antibiotic, accutane and cortisone shot couldnt help me, there is no hope

>>77106166
Terminal velocity acne is not a joke...

>>77106180
yes its been 2 year of suffering
i feel i was wrongly diagnosed
if accutane didnt do shit for 1 year, why cant he admit it be something else than acne :'(
is there anyhting i could suggest to him,
no i dont need MAIDS because i got maids at home (i bought a rope)
im so desesperate that im considering cruising/blasting until i die, im sure a new test-e cycle could fix my shit but the derm is saying im retarded

>>77106180
im a real person and not a meme

>>77106166
I’ll be honest I have not noticed an improvement in my acne after starting Accutane, it has been a few weeks of low dose (50mg) and maybe a week or 2 of 75mg.

>>77106306
what should i suggest
someone suggested ivermectin

>>77106322
Tretinoin is what I hear but I will give the tane a few more weeks before I get annoyed to the point of trying more stuff.

Why isn't every boomer blasting gear or even just trt

Just ignorance I presume

It's funny I see fat fucks in 100k classic cars, like 1k a year and you'd have similar muscle to me after like 6 months training

>>77106446
I’m a boomer and I’m pretty close to it, but the main hang ups are:

>2x week minimum injections
>minimum 2x year bloodwork
>the risk that even at a TRT dose your hct will still creep up and then you’ll have to do blood donations and iron supplementation also
>if you’re not low T to start with you can’t go through a doc or a lab which means you gotta got UGL
>gotta spend time and resources always knowing what ugls to trust, check their testing, constantly ordering illegal packs in the mail etc

Yeah there’s a lot of benefits. Obviously. But there’s also a monumental amount of fucking around and dedication , most people don’t have the willpower to train and diet let alone keep up with all that shit

>>77105722
why use this shit

>>77106480
I'm the rad140 guy imo there is basically 0 downside to sarms as boomer, your test is already suppressed by age, sarms perfectly legal so you aren't going to jail, that's just my Oppenheimer though

>>77106166
how old were you when blasting

Finally started getting some deca dick. I can counter act it if I take cialis but it’s concerning. Weird how it only kicked in after like 8 weeks on cycle. Might actually just be that I crashed my estrogen or something. I’m cutting my AI dose in half, and stopping the deca.

>>77106565
>sarms
>more toxic than steroids, for 10x less result
>BUT ANON I HAVE PANIC OF NEEDLES
just man up brother

>>77106572
I did a trt cycle 10 years ago, I don't want a felony nigguh

>>77106565
My test isnt supressed by age

You terminally online niggers just regurgitate that stuff with no basis. I have high testosterone, and I get bloodwork done every 4 months

Nothing is more retarded than sarms tho

>>77104812
Asking because I bought it from peptide websites from Google not actual roid sites (they were out of bac water there)

Also gaining 3 lbs of muscle every 6 weeks is enough lol, I don't need to put on 40lbs of muscle in 2 months, 1 I'm already a large animal and I'm trying to recomp, 5'9" 275lbs at the moment

Rad140 is honestly killing my appetite at 25mg and my mk dose lowered to 15mg, literally lost like 10lbs in the last week after that change and still busting my ass

Stop accusing me of being afraid of needles, begging a jew for roids or buying fake shit is literally not a problem for me and doesn't align with my goals at the moment I shot test into my quads when I was 22 I'm not afraid of fucking needles

My routine is easy to follow and aquire what I need, I'm a large individual and don't need size at the moment

>>77106582
It is a natural biological process that you produce less test as you age negrito

>>77106591
1% per year on average

The average person is fat, eats unhealthily and doesn’t train…

I’ve been eating healthily, training and cardio for my entire life… and my testosterone hasn’t moved

>>77106607
My post wasn't directed towards ubermench such as yourself more towards the average BOOMER lol

With that big ol potbelly and noodle arms driving a 100k shiny car

>>77106576
>trt
>cycle
Retard

>>77106623
I pinned like 150mg into my quads per week just out of curiosity I wasn't even lifting at the time

So yes not afraid of needles you stupid fuck, literally the most painful place to inject

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Am I ready to pin? Thoughts? Planning on doing 500mg per week.

>>77106576
Trt cycle lmao

>>77106696
Yes I did a cycle at a trt dosage because I was curious how it would feel I was into a lot of different drugs at that point

>>77106631
If you're from North or North East Brazil no.
If you're from Sao Paulo and the three southern states then yes.
Sorry anon steroids are racists.
That said, yes you're good. What do you have in mind? 16 weeks 500mg/w?

>>77106704
Cycle is different than TRT, my blessed friend.
You need to know how to address it

>>77106711
It was a cycle at a trt dosage

>>77106591
>negrito
Eres de hispachan?

>>77105604
20mg
I would up the trt dose but I am a fat fuck and it would aromatize

>>77106719
That doesn't make any sense
TRT is when you don't have your own T for some reason and you replace it with exogenous T. Can be infinitely long because in the end you just have your natural (or slightly higher) levels of T, but you don't produce it yourself
Cycle is when you blast big to massive doses of exogenous T for "short" amounts of time (T and its derivatives, and other compounds that mimic it). That's harmful in the long run because your system isn't supposed to run with so much T

A "cycle" with a "TRT dose" just means "fuck my shit up for no reason". You just suppressed your natural T and replaced it with the same amount of exogenous T. It's quite literally pointless, and tremendously retarded. You won't see ANY positives from such an approach and the only thing you achieved is suppression of your natural T and that's it. Good job. I feel retarded explaining this to you because it's not only like explaining what's 2+2, but it's just common sense that goes without saying
It's not a "cycle". You achieved nothing

>>77105631
Would front loading or something like that help ? I feel like shit.

>>77106786
Which ester? Dosage?
Just wait anon. Longer the ester longer the wait for steady levels. You'll be fine

>>77106831
Enthanate , should be a little shorter than Cyp

>>77106883
Yes. Everything is under control, just wait 6-8 weeks and go get some labs, tt free testo e2, cbc, lipids...

>>77106563
Because I feel fucking amazing 99% of the day, muscles bulging just from brushing my teeth, veins popping while cooking dinner, chin held high while walking through the store, casual jokey flirting with women turning into social media exchanges into nudes into sex, my aura is pure confidence of a sexual tyrannosaurus.

>>77106480
dont see a doc, go to a clinic. if the clinic says they wont prescribe you because your levels are fine, go to another clinic. there's even 100% online ones, where doctor pajeet will prescribe you likely without looking at your labs. absolutely do not take iron. hct will be fine as long as you remember to drink some water. ifn you don't like needles, there's gel, and implants that last months. if you're fine with needles, but just don't want to inject so frequently, ask for test undeconate (sp?). if you have sides, diet until they go away. if your prostate gets pissed off, take saw palmetto/pygeum/stinging nettle root

is the testosterone icecream legit?
if so how are they allowed to sell it at a gas station?

>>77106322
Ivermectin is for rosacea and redness not full blown acne. Sometimes compounded with other things like oxymetazoline.

>>77106480
Injections are really not that bad. For peptides and shit I've done 5 in a day.

>>77107085
This. I had a jewish doc say my labs looked good and that he was prescribing me what I wanted. Despite having high test. I should honestly be concerned about this but he's probably just in it for the money rather than psyopping me.

>>77106774
A blood test had me at 210ng/dl when I was 21

I did a trt cycle without working out which is dumb but I did inject my quads so I'm not afraid of needles

>>77106766
Honestly that's good, I'm in a similar situation

>>77106727
100 percent white American, just a fun word though

>>77106306
It took me a couple months of 80-100mg/daily to see results. Now I'm pretty much acne free. Azithromycin pulse therapy pairs well with it

>>77107339
Yes, its like 2 whole testosterones for one scoop

>>77105722
share some of your notes

Is 15% bf good enough to hop on? I really don't want to have to go to 10-12

>>77107538
Easily yes. I'm 20% and have barely any aromatization.

>>77107438
If you’re doing enclo just do that and do 25mg and not the rad 140 . Youll get at least half the results of pinning test without any of the side effects

>>77106480
Lack of tech savvy and just dumb in general
I mean the typical faglennial and cum guzzling zoomer can barely find sst and it's in the clearnet
wtf a boomer gonna do, ask Big Ron at the gym? lol
Then there's the fear that test will immediately explode their heart that normie doctors feed them
Half the time doctors fuck up trt dosing, needle gauges etc
Most mfers here can't comprehend the difference between trt and an actual cycle, much less that they have vastly different severity of consequences most of which are easily compensated for even at relatively moderate to high doses
Truly a series of echo chambers, social conformity pressure and IQ filters

>>77106446
>>77107608
Missed the reply like a dumbass
Maybe roids do lower IQ

/fraud/sters I'm real drunk about to be vulnerable for a second. I've spent the last ten years blowing loads to pictures of eddie hall and derek poundstone and shit like that. i'm 31 now and I've only ever fucked around in the gym as a hobby, I've never really taken it seriously, I haven't been to the gym in like eight months, but something is breaking in me really bad this month and I think it's the fact that I'm small. I hate feeling bone when I touch my wrist. I hate the way women at work vent to me like I'm one of them.

If I was to load up on gear, slam the gas on the gym and my food intake, make it my only hobby type shit, is there a world in which I could be fucking huge like that? It's too late for me to win any competitions, I just wanna be gigantic. I feel like a tranny but like doubling down on being male. I'm so fucking tired of not being big, man. I don't care if I die at 40 if I look like jeep swenson when I go

>>77107695
Do you mean you literally jerk off to Eddie Hall?

>>77107695
youll end up killing yourself but if really want to do this then look into carb cycling, insulin, gh, and tren. also be prepared to spend 10 hours a day on your body

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>>77107700
i mean among others but like I meant what I said

>>77107708
>youll end up killing yourself
if that's what it takes to be happy with myself then fuck it i guess

>on TRT with private clinic for years
>move
>convinced to go through public system
>"Actually over 200 is considered normal, so we will only sell you this Gel for 50% the cost your clinic was selling Test, HCG, Finasteride, and arimadex for. In fact, i've never heard of any of those things, why would a man be on hcg?"

Yeah, fuck this, imma do a cycle
500mg a week is a good first cycle, yeah?

I swear to fucking god if i hear "Let's just take a few month off, and see where you land" one more time i will go insane

>>77107695
at a certain point, it's down to genetics. you can sorta get bigger wrists, but only sorta. you can certainly look big though. sounds like you're already skinny, so you're way ahead of most. take testosterone + deca + hgh. maybe 750mg/week + 750mg/week + 8iu ed. find your base metabolic rate, then eat 500 calories more than that a day. be sure you're getting 200g protein a day. blast for 24 weeks, then drop to 250mg test/week + 100mg deca/week + 8iu hgh ed for a few months....maybe. if your bloods look fine, dont stop blasting. if they don't look great, cruise until they do, then blast away for another 24 weeks. constant high hgh increases odds for roid gut, and macrophalagy. a few years of that increases cancer risk. you can ditch hgh after a year if you want though, and let things chill. natural production comes back quick. or you can just do 2-3iu ed while cruising. all that will get you bulky, then you can switch to tren + var + reta for a few months to lean out if you want

>>77107749
lol fuck that. 500 is fine. 750 is fine. blast away, my dude

>>77107452
That is a little longer than I wanted but I guess I shouldve done more research before only buying 100ct of 25mg. Guess I am buying more if I start to notice a change by the end of this amount.
>>77107513
I do not want to censor 70% of it but the jist is I think my gf secretly hates me for breaking up with her over a year ago and is stringing me along until she finally explains she has been cheating on me or pretending everything for the last 5 months. I know how she acts is consistent with how she used to act, and I know it all lines up with what she is saying she is doing and who she is hanging out with, but in the back of my mind I keep thinking “Oh she only said X Y Z was there but the picture she showed me there was 4 people and it kind of looks like a man why wouldn’t she say it’s her friends husband or etc.”
Again, I trust her because I know her and how she acts is exactly the same, but I still can’t get over the fact women are emotionally driven spiteful creatures who need to be coddled and lead.

>>77107761
Oh god he just told me he wants to taper off the gel over 6 months and then go another 6 months on NOTHING to see if i recover. He also says if i end up on TRT, he recommends freezing sperm instead of HcG

if you talk about SARMs or enclo outside of a PCT context your ass needs to be banned

>>77107764
Best tren advice ever posted:
Never make any life decisions while on tren

>>77107773
Yeah fuck that, doing it yourself beats clinics and normoid doctors 99.9% of the time, just be above room temp IQ
TRT to blast and cruise pipeline is real and based, straight to b&c is more efficient but whatever
Read the leddit steroid wiki, do the newbie 500 test cycle, enjoy gains and full control of your medication
You are already familiar with a good portion
Learning to dose AI is a big part of why 500 is picked, I would keep it simple at first for that learning experience

How do i change my workouts once i start a cycle?

>>77107817
Same shit, go til failure, full range of motion, controlled. Progressive Overload. You will just make gains faster and easier.

im on trt, 150mg a week, but i'm obese, 103kg.
If i take 500mg a week, would I lose weight?

:^)

i should probably go down to like, 80kg before doing a cycle, huh?

>>77107839
Fatty.
No.
Yes. Unless you are pure muscle. BF% needs to be lower or you'll just be aromatising more Estrogen, you'll get worse sides.

>>77107435
if it is really that low you need to be on it for life my friend

>>77106774
>>77107435
i had 295-305ng
they said anything over 300 was fine, turns out that is not true, and they should have investigated.

Go to a new doctor, they pull the same shit. Won't investigate because I'm borderline.

Official "fine" number drops to 250. Doctors tell me that's good news, now im well in the normal level

>>77107773
you're free to never see that doctor again. and he really suggests going through a fucking $30,000 invitro process that can still fail instead of taking twenty five cents worth of hcg a week? this nigga's nutty. yeah.... google meso forum, go to the steroid underground subforum, and start researching underground labs (ugl). use your favorite ai to plan a blast/cruise/trt/whatever you want to do, look up the info without ai to verify it, and place an order. yeesh. sorry you gotta deal with that nonsense

>>77107839
more test can increase metabolism, but just pick up some tirzepetide, and use that while you blast until you're happy. like other anon said, you'll need to take your ai religiously though, but, whatever

>>77107865
UGL in aus is easy, but i really want to work in China, Taiwan, Korea and Japan in around 2030 or so.

I think i will find a clinic that will prescribe things to me, then add to it with UGL stuff...

>>77107588
High estrogen

>>77107850
Perhaps, and I've accepted that I might cruise for a year or more, I've been on some form of test enhancement for over 6 months straight now

>>77107853
Indeed, oy vey goy 100ng is within 500ng of the median which is normal

>>77107780
I don't know why you fags are so buttfrustrated at my cycle according to ai what I take is equivalent to 400mg test cycle, but isn't muh test

Everyone has a different situation

>>77107890
your situation is that youre a fucking faggot

>>77107892
I'm straight, you're mad

>>77107890
>according to ai
what are the odds he works up the nerve to shoot his girlfriend before his blood turns to sludge

>>77107895
>allying with snakedemons

Couldn't be me nigga

>>77107871
ugl in aus is easy? that's surprising to me. i've always read about how difficult it is to get imports through customs there. well, shit! have at it then! and isnt this stuff legal in china & taiwan? should be even easier when you move

>>77102797
>>77103326
Lol you tarded nigs were seething about me earlier too huh

I'm on 3x that dose btw

I'm allegedly a huge pussy yet I'm taking the less healthy steroid which is riskier than your stack while being obese

More risky more alpha, God's chosen lol

>>77107901
it's expensive, but most of it is run by ISIS and TALIBAN gangs

>>77107764
only mildly concerning

>>77108031
Eh I ping pong between caring and not caring, it peaks around 3-6am when I am just in bed with my thoughts so I don't try to pay attention to it

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>>77107749
>why would a man be on hcg?
An actual doctor said this? Like, a real someone with higher medicine education in a white coat working in an actual clinic?
That's wild

>>77107839
No amounts of drugs can burn the food you eat, fatty
Stop swallowing sugars and fat, lard man

>>77107890
Please be trolling

>>77108265
yeah, i'm about 10kg into obese, another 15kg into overweight.

literally 25kg heavier than i should be. Moving back to Aus was a mistake, the snacks are so tasty here. I put on 15kg since moving back here...

So what should I do to lose weight? I've started a c25k program, currently up to 2min walk, 5.5min power walking, 4 sets. Don't actually start jogging for another 4 weeks or so.

I've started actively drinking more water, liters of it. All sugar soda has been gone for a while

Tomorrow I will buy some more appropriate diet food. Sugarfree jelly seems like a good way of eating without really eating. any other ideas?

>>77108370
>So what should I do to lose weight?
The same thing that every person does on this planet
Burn more calories than you eat

>>77108370
>Sugarfree jelly seems like a good way of eating without really eating. any other ideas?
But you know what
It seems like you literally can not not eat
If you want to rely on drugs then use tirzepatide. It will cure you from your gluttony

>>77108370
eat less you pig

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On trt and I lift 5x a week. Can/should I bump it up to 6 or 7?

>>77108862
Haha he said it ! He said the meme numbers !

>>77108270
Do you have 19 inch arms

>>77108862
no, you need rest days even when frauding. some people will argue three days a week at the gym is plenty if your routine is dialed in. five is fine

>>77100551
Just use tap water, bac is a scam rofl

>>77109141
don't listen to her. please dont use tap water.... distilled is fine, but you may get bacterial growth after a month

>>77106998
Sure thing Pacho
>>77108509
>The same thing that every person does on this planet
>Burn more calories than you eat
WHILE ON TIRZEPATIDE OR RETATRUTIDE. Yes it's that easy.
>>77109141
Ban this guy

>>77109141
>use tap
no, do not do this. for the mineral content alone.
just buy the damn bac water
I heard you can do 50ml of purified water and put in 0.5ml of everclear but at that point you have to spend $20 on the everclear so I don't see the point
also bac water used to be 2/$20 on most sources but thanks to peptides they are like $25 each now

I thought butter was optimal for things like reta
Where'd butter anon go

Pinned my first time yesterday. 250mg of test e. Why am I not feeling anything? Is my gear bunk? Can't be, its pharma grade.

>>77109179
Yeah

>>77109179
you have 2 options
-keep pinning on schedule until you feel it start to work
-pin 125 every day until you can feel it then stop for a week then go back to normal dosing

>>77109172
I tried butter tirz and honestly it pins super smooth and I did feel like my cravings were much more evenly diminished to the point I do think butter is the ideal suspension mechanism. But it takes up loads of space.

>>77109145
>>77109169
>>77109171
I obv meant boil it first and let it cool, idiots

>>77109235
boiling tap water doesn't remove solid contaminants
if you want to have puss bursting out of your subq injection sites have fun
>>77109171
this is significantly less of a retarded idea but still not better than just buying bac water

>>77109179
I pinned for the first time a couple weeks ago and here's what I've been feeling (more or less chronologically):
>water retention
>bloated face
>weight gain from water retention
>people commenting I look bigger
>busting out more reps
>ability to lift heavier weights
>veins popping
>hot flashes (they stopped)
>acne in my arms
>pimple in my face (went away)
>hornier (maybe, nofap makes me horny anyways)
>traps & delts bigger (maybe)
>nipple sensitivity (took ai and it calmed down)
>probably other stuff I forgot

Have fun

>>77109297
Thats exactly how my terminal cystic acne started, I warned you

>>77109297
Oh and I felt my balls go inside my body for the first time leaving me with an empty sack

Nice

>>77109306
I'm actually scared I'm gonna have an acne breakout once I drop to a trt dose and drop the ai

>>77100548
this is the only good thread on /fit/

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>>77109317
Yes thats what happened to mexican andy when he stopped his cycle

>>77100548
test

>>77109309
I kinda like when I am jerking off and one of my balls shoots up into the pocket in my pubis when cooming. I like pushing it back down from the top into it’s tiny little dice bag.

How do you treat acne

>>77109352
First love and accept your body, never take steroid ever again and go see a derm before it turns to scars

>>77109352
buy it some bacon grease and let it stay up late on the weekends

I was on 400 test 200 npp for a few months, now dropping to just 200 test since I'm cutting and experiencing "deca dick" kinda hard to stay hard.
It's funny because it never happened while I was on it only now that I dropped it. I guess everything is still stabilizing to the new dose and it is only temporary.

I had bad cystic body acne as a dyel nerd in high school. Should I even fuck with any of this

>>77109320
And yet it still fucking sucks

>>77109455
Umm... maybe yes? If all you are worried about is acne anything around 250mg will be fine if you want to TRT dose and cruise, I had medium acne as a teen and didn't even get a blemish on my skin until 400mg Test/wk. Then you either accept the small bits or go up and manage better with things like AI if its Estrogen related, or many of the plethora of acne treating medication/creams you can buy at the dollar store. BUT if you want to push very high with Test and other compounds you will NEED to manage it for those of us predisposed to it, for people who can run 1g+ high blasts without acne being a problem I envy.

>>77109497
I blame Bobby

>>77109669
dangit Bobby

>>77109667
Blast accutane and you wont have a problem with acne, thats what Im doing.
>800mg test e
>400mg NPP
>150mg anadrol (DAILY)
>60mg accutane (DAILY)

>>77109707
Yes that is what I started doing about 3 weeks ago, I am in the honeymoon phase of Accutane so in about a month or so I should be cleared up a ton, it isn't as bad as Sam Sulek's back but my shoulders and chest has enough where it pisses me off and my GF asked what happened and was surprised it was acne so I said "My dermatologist calls it hormonal stress acne" to shut her the fuck up.

>>77109119
Don't bodybuilders do 5+ times a week and sometimes two a days?

>>77109719
They do muscle group splits so by the time the 5 days is up they can full rest and rotate back to the start.

How long til full saturation, like 6, maybe even 7 right ?

>>77100548
hey fraud is an estradiol of 75 pmol/L high? my natruopath acted like it was really high and that she would want to see me around "20"

i asked her if she was sure about what she was saying, and she doubled down, but i can't help but think this retarded bitch got her units mixed up and thought the test was in pg/mL

>>77109325
https://www.instagram.com/realmexicanandy/?hl=en


Andy won

Would going from 600mg test to 700mg kill me ?

>>77109927
you'd be a big guy

>>77109936
For you?

>>77100548
Anyone wanna fight https://discord.gg/pNthNvtVC
I'm natty

>>77109980
this guys ESL as fuck btw

will Benzoyl Peroxide and Adapalene clear my acne?

>>77110037
some people Benzly peroxide works, didn't work for me.

Along with not believing diabetes exists, I also have a hard time believing my liver will have a problem with indefinite use of 25mg rad140 along with various other peds

Am I psychotic or just built different

0 bloodwork done

>>77109025
I'm not morbidly obese

These threads aren't funny
1) I'm obese and I take enclomiphene which is the same as pinning testosterone
2) Terminal acne
3) Butter for retatrutide
And now
4) Use tap water for injections

What did I miss?

>>77110191
You seem very emotional right now, have you considered upping your AI?

>>77110188
Your arms don't store any significant portion of fat, neither do the shoulders

Beta

>>77109811
6-8 weeks, yeah

>>77109833
that's like... 20pg/mL. normal range pmol is something like 36-150. you're fine

>>77110037
check out the skin addiction subplebbit. they get into various skin care routines. try 'em out until you find one that works for you

>>77110191
sometimes trenny shows up, and tells people to take more tren. i like her though. solid advice every time

>>77110923
I am male and love thick women.

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>>77110191
Forgot this one

lol sarm goblins are fucking retarded just to agree with all of you. Imagine taking the most toxic and barely studied shit when we have bio-identical testosterone and shit that is proven to be safe and effective as fuck.

>>77111156
>the Vax is safe and effective

Beta follower, can't into critical thinking

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HCG is the fucking best bro. I can't believe how many boomer faggots told me "not to bother with it". My nuts are bigger than they ever were before roiding and they stay that way year round.

if i have a 5000IU bottle of HCG and im pinning 250IU every other day, that means one bottle will last a little more than a month or so, but from what ive been reading is that peptides including hcg degrade really fast, like within 2 weeks, is that just not true or do i need to adjust the dosing protocol?

>>77111292
The shit is very overstated. It STARTS to degrade after 2 weeks but if its still at 90% effectiveness at the end of the month you are fine.

You need to be mixing with BAC water. If you are using just like regular distilled water or some shit then yeah its going to degrade rapidly.

>>77111300
what if you use tap water? some other anon said it was a good idea

>>77111292
Just take a hot bath to loosen the nut sack, warm up some nickels in the bath. Stretch and pull the skin around the nuts and place the warm nickel on the testicle and snap some prictures of your nuts. Now you have a reference frame.

I am 100% you aren't going to see nut shrinkage on 250 IU every other day. I do 250IU twice per week and my nuts havent shrunk. I am keeping a vial in my fridge for like 10 weeks and it still works as far as I can tell

If you are actively trying to knock someone up you might want a higher dose but for preserving the nuts you should be in great shape

>>77111306
Smart, the estrogen in the tap water will keep you from taking too much AI and crashing your e2 levels

>>77111300
yeah i use BAC water and keep it refrigerated

>>77111306
no lol

>>77109707
Take care with the anadrol cowboy

>>77109707
2.5g/week
Post physique

>>77111333
Just wondering if you’ve tried butter composition or when you plan to?

so wait you can just take a rad-140 pill every now and then and its basically like im on juice and there are no side effects?
why isnt everyone just doing that then?
retard here please explain

>>77111799
for me, its margarine

Has anyone of you regretted getting on gear? I'm very afraid of needles and that's why I never used, but my gains are shit for the amount of efforts I put in nowadays and Ihave symptoms of low T.
I've been lifting for years While some skinny fags join the gym, hop on gear and become huge in 6 months. Tell me horror stories about gear to make me change my mind. I've been studying and close to ordering the stuff for my first T only cycle...

I'm so tired of getting mogged, but I'm an oldfag and I can't keep up anymore.

>>77111885
My fear of needles has to do with "what if I miss the vein" so IM or subQ is actually less scary than I thought, but it still sucks. You get out of it what you put in it, if you are lazy and don't watch your blood levels running high doses you will ruin your body.

>>77111885
I took 1mg of tren and subscribed to a tranny porn discord that required face upload verification

>>77109707
Lol it’s amazing how superior my genetics are to most of you. If I took this cycle I would literally look like a gorilla and probably reach 300 pounds

>>77111842
You take it every day and you probably want to take at least 20mg with enclomiphene or test

>>77111927
I did that as precycle therapy.
>>77111963
>t. fatty

yeah im drinking tonight fuck everything

>>77112039
based. In the filth it shall be found

>>77112039
fuck it all

Need to add a DHT compound to my current 250 mg test C + 200 mg tren A, mostly for the mental effects
I can't really decide what to go for, any suggestions?
I can get most common stuff except primo, don't care if it's oral or injectable, I've been thinking of 100 mg mast P or proviron but experiences seem conflicting

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>>77111885
I nuked my e2 by being retarded with adex and went through 3 weeks of hell
constant paranoia and suicidal idiation combined with complete physical exhaustion the entire time I was awake
those 3 weeks were the only time I felt regret
pushed past it and still using gear. if you are lucky the worst you will get is insomnia, acne and homosexual desires.
if you are soft, sensitive and lived a sheltered life this shit is probably out of your league. if you aren't ready to poke yourself with needles on the regular then its not for you. can't in good faith recommend it to anyone.

>>77112171
Is that why I am crying at romance movies?

>>77112174
that sounds more like high e2
if you crash your e2 you will feel abysmal
not a sad movie or sad song type of feeling but more like a "I feel like death why the fuck did I ever take any of this shit god please let me live and I wont use any of this shit ever again" type of feeling

Dumb question, but how long can hgh stay reconstituted for? I reconstituted a vial but my timing was off. Long story short rehabbing, cycling off tb for 6 weeks. Will my hgh still be good by then? I'd rather take them both together, but if I just take the gh now nbd

>>77112178
I don't see how my E2 would be high with 12.5mg Aromasin EOD with 500mg Test. Tren and Var don't count.

>>77112039
fuck it

>>77111963
pro body builders are only big because they take more gear than me

>>77112243
I mean yeah. You ever see pictures of Lee Priest or Mike O'Natty at like 19 years old and they are already massive as fuck. When you have good genes and you take high doses of gear you can just blow up. Of course you still have to eat and lift but shit can happen fast

>>77112203
you really don't want to wait with reconstituted HCG. As anon says it really starts to degrade after only 2 weeks. I would probably take like double doses if its been in my fridge for 6 weeks, just assuming its at half potency. You might want to talk to AI about this shit

>>77112171
Damn bro that sounds awful.

I feel like I was able to detect my e2 getting too low just from having weak boners and I cut my AI dose in half and shit was fixed in like a week and a half.

I almost think nobody should be fucking with cialis if you dont absolutely need it because it will completely cover up the early warning signs of your hormones being fucked up and just force your dick to work right.

>>77111881
>not reconstituting steroids with olive oil
ngmi

>>77112319
Lard is superior. 95% of the olive oil on the market isn’t even real.

>>77112327
>hes not using olive oil branded lard

>>77112339
>non virgin oil branded lard
kek amateurs