>>77112742
smaev is natty
he's just been training for a long time

>>77112745
nah you can only look like this if you reconstitute your gh with tap water

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>>77112742
Are peptides cope

Only tried Reta
What are some peptides that actually work beside glps and MT2

Want to buy
- Tesamorelin
- TB500
- CJC no dac
- Nad 500
-Mots
- BPC 157
- Ipamorelin

>>77112752
>Tesamorelin
does nothing
>TB500
works
>CJC no dac
does nothing, causes severe allergic reactions
>Nad 500
never heard of it
>Mots
millenial cope
>BPC 157
works, I had better results pinning the arginate salt, but thats hard to source now unless you know Croatian
>Ipamorelin
doesnt do anything

pin GH
- Ipamorelin

>>77112778
Sorry NAD+

Oral form is available for this

> Butter
works excellent with both ret and tirz, about 3x the bioavailability of BAC water and 2x tap. Studies show 80-90% retention of the compound compared to 14-30% with BAC water
> Margarine
Much easier and people report a smoother draw, seems to only keep that 80% target with tirz though
> Lard
People believe other compounds in lard help reduce PIP and inflammation, also a good choice
> Olive oil
do not currently recommend, lacks the healthy liposomes needed to properly dissolve and deliver GLP 1s and we don't have enough knowledge of the appropriate filtration steps. Stick with butter until more information comes.

>>77112799
you forgot tap water

>>77112745
>he just has genetics

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Why don't we have a bodybuilding general on /fit/? Arnold Ohio is coming bros.

>BBC water

>>77112849
Make one bro

>>77112786
oral nad+ is useless. shit gets destroyed in your stomach

How common is it to get gyno on gear if I've never had it in my entire life?
Are there any indications than you might get it easier than others or is it completely random and you don't know until you start pinning?

Planning to start a cycle of just T soon btw

>>77113146
>if I've never had it in my entire life
You make it sound like something people get and then it goes away.

>>77113146
It happens. You can avoid getting gyno by being careful and always having an AI and not being retarded. The main thing to look for is if your mom or sisters have big tits. Post pics of your mom and sisters and tell you your gyno risk.

The main advice I would tell you besides that is

>dbol is gyno in a bottle
>finasteride will cause gyno as DHT has anti gyno effects
>put down the money to get your e2 tested until you gain the ability to just feel what high and low estrogen are like
>don’t take grams of gear in your first cycle like a retard

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>>77112799
is this supposed to be funny?
The idea of listing different cooking oils and comparing their effectiveness for reconstitution is funny but your execution is horribly unfunny and comes off as someone who has no business writing jokes.

>>77112742
He looks disgusting

>>77113201
yes you do.

>>77113214
Good one! Good luck on your crippling tranny body dysmorphia.

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>>77112742
>>77112745
>>77112749
>>77112846
You can try and cope about Smaev's "genetics" or how he's on "gear" but the main reason he's so huge (compared to other "genetic freaks" on gear) is because he literally eats multiple pharmacies worth of supplements erry day. He's clearly modulating a lot more muscle-related proteins than your typical hGH/tren stacker.
>t. also on a lot of supps but thinks Smaev has selected too many of the wrong ones and is progeria-maxxing

>>77113237
Like what

10 fruit Gummi multis

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>>77113242
Nope, try looking up what all this weird shit does:
>MuRF1/TRIM63 downregulation
>PI3K/Akt induction
>GSK3β inhibition
>MyoD induction
>MAFbx/Atrogin-1 inhibition
>Myogenin induction
You can do it all with supplements, and a lot more, if you're kinda sharp at reverse network pharmacology and toxicology.

>>77113237
>the guy is big because 1 ton of steroids
No shit anon

how do i game my test results?
im 45
i look like ive never gone through puberty
cant grow a beard
super low lean muscle mass
but my test is 1000 ng/dl which from what ive read is super high for a 45 year old

>>77113626
I am also a 37 year old who looks 17z

Holy shit bros the difference between 25mg Anavar and 50mg is night and day, I feel great.

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>>77113755
>I feel great

>>77113194
lol I have made almost this exact same post in response to him. The fag has the right idea but he is just too autistic and unfunny to make the meme work. And he insists upon it too much

>>77113774
Imagine being afraid of 50mg anavar.
You people are a bunch of pussies.
Afraid of 500mg test too.
Steroids used to be for getting huge, now its a bunch of bitches taking bitch doses of test and women's doses of anavar just to look like a slightly bigger natty

>>77113626
that is high. you probably have a different underlying issue. but dont sleep, exercise hard, and get fucking trashed. that'll help drop it on then test. or just shop around for a clinic that'll prescribe you whatever you want

>>77113774
lol I used to drink like 10 beers and take like 6 vicodins (with tylenol) on the regular. My liver is bullet proof. I come from a long line of alcoholics and we never die from liver problems just heart attacks

>>77113774
I don't care about my organs exploding in 5 years. I want to look good until then.

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>>77113850
>>77113850
>I don't care about my organs exploding in 5 years. I want to look good until then.
Yet most roiders stay DYEL and never get into unconventional bulking target proteins like >>77113336.

>>77113640
I've never seen such a young poster

>>77113807
Redditors think 200ml of a spirit means you should immediately report to A&E, they're always 5'1 men scared of anything that's not approved science

>>77113336
>if you're kinda sharp at reverse network pharmacology and toxicology.
God roidtrannys are so pathetically retarded

I ate a smurfberry today

>>77113850
this is the point

>>77112752
Hgh secretogogues are dumb. You're already pinning something (daily with most of them), might as well just pin actual hgh
>Nad500/mots-c
Maybe, I don't really think they're worth much in a strictly performance enhancing context. But if you have some kind of baseline energy dysfunction, maybe?
>Bpc-157
Definitely works
>Tb-500
Also works
>Semaglutide/tirzepatide/retatrutide
Amazing

The only test I can get my hands on in my country (Chile) is "Sustanon".
Does anyone how much do and how often do I need to pin in a cycle?

>>77114418
Dont for any reason do the slightest bit of research yourself.
Please shit up the thread with the most basic beginner questions you can possibly think of.
And dont forget to ask us how much AI you need to take with your sustanon

>>77114418
ED or EOD

>>77114418
fellow Weon

>>77114418

Don't listen to >>77114441

Just pin 1ml

>>77114418
Classic latin american waiting everyone's time with stupid questions

>>77114441
>>77114502
But I read the entire wiki before making my post, and only did it because there is literally no mention whatsoever of sustanon... every part of the guide is based on just enanthate and cypionate

>>77114506
Post your bloodwork. There's no way we can give you advice without it.

>>77113846
how do i find whats the underlying issue?
ive talked to primary and endocrinologists many times and they are completely useless
one endo literally started pushing tranny shit within a couple sentences (he started asking if i identify as trans and if that was something i'd be interested in, i wanted to fucking smash his head into the floor) when i simply came in to ask why my test is high but i cant grow a beard and have zero energy and have never had any energy

>>77114522
why do you need to see bloodwork to tell him to do the basic 500mg 20week babby blast?

>>77114506
they dont have google in your favella?

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What is the /fraud/ consensus on the BP danger zone while giga blasting gear?
180/100 or higher has always been my "pump the breaks" zone but curious to what others think?
And just in case you didn't read the first time I am talking about BP while ON A SHITLOAD OF FUCKING GEAR.

>>77114625
are you trolling or are you severely retarded? I cant tell any more.
If your systolic is 180 you literally need to go the emergency room.
And I'm not just saying that to be dramatic.

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>>77112503
?

>>77114654
was asking people who have actually used gear not some panty boy nurse quoting the hypertension poster at the ymca gym

>>77114625
Great chance your BP monitor doesn't actually work on your arms. Big nigga arms ruin most of them and give a very high false reading because it's chink bullshit.

If it's actually 180 then yeah what >>77114654
said

>>77113237
you can tell when someones natty just because of how retarded their perception of what more gear does

>>77114690
alright so I should prob get a stethoscope and old school bp gauge and take manual readings. thank you for the information I was thinking that those electronic shitters were bunk.

>>77114688
you're right anon.
Roids pretty much negate the effects of high blood pressure. The more roids you take the higher your tolerance.
If you ever hit 180 just add some anadrol and keep going.

>>77114699
Yes, especially common above like 18" biceps, you're welcome

Also you sound like a genuine psychopath

>>77114683
lipids nornalize pretty quick after coming off whatever screwed them up.

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>>77114713
Dropping var 100% played a role, but I've had high cholesterol for all of my 20s. I'm 30 now. First pin was in April 2024 and B&C since. If you look, it's my best panel by a good margin.

I guess my question still is... could I really just run this indefinitely? My bloods are the best of my life somehow lol.

>>77114706
lmao this fag doesnt have big arms.
He's on his first babby cycle, doesnt know how to manage estrogen and his bp is going into orbit so he's asking shitretarded questions hoping to be told not to worry about.
Or he's just trolling most likely

>>77114441
This. These subhumans are incapable of just reading the wiki.

>>77114717
>could I really just run this indefinitely?
you can run it until the day you die.
But why?
Just blast real dosages that actually make you huge for 3 or 4 months and then give your body a break with a proper cruise.
Niggas figured this shit out DECADES ago but every natty newb that comes along has to reinvent the wheel because they believe they thought of something nobody else did before.
And they never get fucking huge. Just look like a slightly bigger natty kek

>>77114728
Because I've already blasted a few times and I'm way bigger than natty already. I don't wanna get much bigger, I just wanna stay shredded but look full year round at the same time. I'm 30, not really interested in blasting too much more. Rather just perma cruise on the upper end.

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>>77114620
>Americans talking about poor and ugly criminal infested neighbourhoods
Your big cities don't even have sidewalks anymore. Just addicts, blacks and browns.
>But but the small and medium cities are nice!!!!!
Oh so like LatAm

Bonus point: You're probably Mexican

>>77114734
>I want to take anabolic steroids for the rest of my life but I dont want to grow muscle
lord have mercy I cant take any more of this stupid shit

>>77112752
>Tesamorelin
Worthless. Clinical dosage is 2mg. Nobody provides a vial to make it through a month (20 injections). This compound stings my injection site for 30-60 mins too. CJC no DAC + Ipa is vastly superior.

>NAD+
Worthless snake oil. All previous studies suggesting it had positive effects was on rats, recent study found that it doesn't do anything.

>BPC 157
>TB500
Get the combo so you're injecting less, success depends on the person. Some report it's a miracle others say it did nothing.

>>77112799
Beef tallow vs duck fat vs motor oil? I felt like the motor oil tirz had me burning off all my calories.

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>>77112742
Smaev has one of the worst cases of GH horns I've ever seen.

>>77114811
No he has a normal head, it's just his hair creating an optical illusion dumbass.

>>77114615
self direct some bloodwork, and check everything. free & total testosterone, estradiol, dht, shbg, prostate antigen, tsh, t3, and t4. the tsh/t3/t4 will show if you have a thyroid issue. dht can prevent hair growth. prostate out of whack can indicate other issues going on. a lot of docs are fucking retarded, ESPECIALLY when it comes to hormones. you'll either want to find a reputable hormone specialist that actually gives a fuck (as opposed to one that pencil whips scrips, like the endo you saw), or shop around for a clinic that's not a cash grab (i.e. has actual knowledgeable people who want to help and not just say numbers look good). let me know if you get that energy thing figured out.... maybe i have the same problem. sadlol :(

>>77114821
oh and you can get steep rate cuts online. hello good labs, discounted labs... others i cant recall. first one has the best prices lately. if you're in the US, of course, and i think they all partner with quest diagnostics

>>77114811
This niggas mind is so warp from tiktok he's seeing invisible fucking horns on people's heads.

>>77114833
>doesn't know what GH horns are
newfag detected

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>>77114833
picrelated growths at the corners of the cranium

>>77114861
that's a different person, imbecile
>>77114860
>me: correctly state that the person in the pic doesnt have gh horns
>you: HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT GH HORNS ARE AHHHHH!!!!
another fucking moron

>>77113626
probably low aromatization and very little 5-a-reductase. no negative feedback loop from estrogen to slow down your test production, no DHT to give you masculine features

>>77114869
bad bait, but here's a you

>>77112742
What are the risk to start a steroid cycle if you already suffer from deep terminal cystic acne over chest/shoulder?
i just dont believe in natty lifting but i dont want to make my problem worse, if it get ever worst i might never get to be on a gay cruise ship
My derm warned that i was morally wrong but it was my decision...

>>77115543
Butt sex your derm to assert dominance
This will increase your test to roid levels with minimal danger

>>77115585
funny you mention that because while i was waiting i found out he had a grindr account so he must be gay (i use it on to find out who are gays in my local area, not to meet, so its technically not gay)

>>77115543
If you already suffer from bad cystic acne and you haven’t already consulted a dermatologist about it in the past the get it taken care of then what makes you think you will have the determination to do it on cycle? You aren’t 100% guaranteed to get acne but it will get worse if yours is hormonal.

>>77115603
i ve been seing a derm for 3 years for my terminal cystic acne , its so bad all he can offer is cortisone shot and no private clinic around my area want (or claim they cant) to help me

How to avoid gyno while blasting 500mg of test e and 1mg of Dutasteride ED?

>>77115618
Ok then he is a bad derm.
>>77115633
AI lol lmao? I am on 500mg for the last 4 months and no gyno w/ Dbol cycle mixed in it.

>>77115679
i dont think he is a bad derm, i believe he has to follow protocol given by health canada and cant offer much
but you a right, a small steroid cycle cant hurt that much at this point, it might help the skins to recover a bit .. im sure he wont know

I regret taking steroids as an incel. Im on my 6th week 500mg test e cycle and I can't fucking focus on anything because I'm horny 24/7 with no one to fuck while being a 27yo virgin.

>>77115685
Oh canada is a 3rd world country I am sorry and take back what I said friend.
>>77115689
I would rather jerk off 5 times a day than deal with women crying and being faggots 6/7 days a week for a chance at pussy. Hop on hinge/tinder if you are a LTN or MTN or sub 7. or Grindr if you want to top a trans.

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>>77115618
>eing a derm for 3 years for my terminal cystic acne , its so bad all he can offer is cortisone shot
>>77115679
>Ok then he is a bad derm.
>>77115685
>i dont think he is a bad derm, i believe he has to follow protocol given by health canada
Cortisol monotherapy for acne is beyond retarded. Topical retinoids and azelaic acid in combination easily mog it, but photodynamic therapy is how you easily BTFO pretty much any superficial MDR infection.

>>77115689
Lol I would tell you to just go to a bar and get a girl. But I also think it is a pretty dangerous combo to be 6 weeks into your first cycle with peaking test levels and to get drunk cause you’ll probably get in a fight or something kek

>>77115689
this is why I fuck prostitutes
>inb4 ew prostitutes gross
lmaoing @ ur life incel
>>77115698
the amount of basic / sad / lonely looking guys on dating apps is astounding. Like holy fuck get a personality and take some good pictures goddamnit. Also they're all dyels.

>>77115724
BP sucks ass even at 9%

>>77115759
he is putting BP in the trash tho

>>77115749
i enjoy those posts when someone compiles multiple photos of different men from dating apps, where they all have taken the exact same photo. top looking down, wearing a trucker hat, and pit viper sunglasses. and their second photo is always them posing with a fish they just caught. they are always over 30% bf

>>77115759
>>77115778
What's wrong with BP? I was about to get some soon to try it

>>77116062
you can try, but i only help minor acne that is actually breaking out
if the acne is already there or a scar, it wont do shit at all

>>77116076
Accutane the only solution then?

>>77113146
Yeah, you know what
This dude is 100% honest and his post was fact checked and is true >>77113191
Post naked photos of your sister on /b/ or somewhere else and crosslink it here

>>77112799
Finally it became somewhat funny when you combined all of this in a single post

why does no one like sarms? I ran rad 140 and had zero side effects and just got bigger and stronger. What's the problem?

>>77114734
Just drop the var.

If you want to log 99% of nattys year round and maintain muscle just run something like 100 Test and 100 Tren. Throw in an adrol on days you want a great lift or something.

If ur scared of tren probably could just sub it for mast, but it wont be as potent at that dose.

how do I push past the fear of injections?
my piece of shit dad had my dog euthanized when I was 4 and made me watch just because I left a door open and the dog chewed up his leather briefcase.
every time I think of needles I see my dogs face and his eyes rolling up into his head while pissing and shitting all over the table. makes me sick just typing it out.

>>77116139
That's generally the plan, but 300 test 150 primo has been wonders. Not gonna fuck with tren nor any 19-nor, I'm a CEO and my mental state is important, but mogging 99.9% of the world is already achieved with my current stack. Was just wondering if I could realistically run it year round with how good my bloods are now.

That and def like adrol here and there very rarely but the cartoon gains are real. If I do it on an upper day, my legs look like toothpicks lol

>>77116103
I don’t even think Accutane will help scars
>>77116171
Have you tried getting really drunk before injecting? IM is really simple to not fuck up once you get over the fear. I can do it blind into my quads and the first dozen times I would have a panic attack. Just line it up perpendicular and straight and don’t look bro just slowly apply pressure until you can’t go further then depress plunger.
>>77116187
Yo can I get a job I am on 400mg tren/wk and can do your dirty work.

>>77116232
>>77116103
>>77116076
Former Accutane user here (I had bad acne as a teen, completely unrelated to roids). This is correct. Accutane does not and is not meant to help scars. That is an entirely different issue.

>>77116256
Doesn't tretinoin work well on scars? Accutane is like the same thing but in the oral form. It certainly made my face much younger.

>>77116292
you have no idea how many clinic will sell you bogus product to treat scars that have no effect
some people speed thousands upon thousands only to have the scar come back 2 years later
the best remedy isnt really a remedy, flatten all the scar and get a tattoo to hide them

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>>77116062
Barely works as monotherapy even at 10%. It's a fairly pussy-ass oxidizer in purported "medicinal" concentrations that even gets mogged by hypochlorous acid wound wash, let alone more schizo-tier ROS generation systems.

>>77116103
>Accutane the only solution then?
Boomer liver poison; therapies in >>77115724 mog it.

>>77116232
>I don’t even think Accutane will help scars
>>77116292
>Doesn't tretinoin work well on scars?
Adapalene has the best evidence for acne scars, but turmeric plus bromelain had a pretty good clinical trial recently; photo and cryotherapies have some evidence along with corticosteroids and many other agents.

>>77114885
>little 5-a-reductase
googling this says you have a micropenis
my cock is 8 inches even though im 5'9"

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>>77116751
I'm guessing partial androgen insensitivity syndrome instead, given the high test levels.

You guys were right butter reta really feels much better lol

Ate women

>>77116171
Your dad is a pedo serial killer or something? What a faggot cunt crying baby idiot he is.
That said, try shock therapy anon. I. E. Force yourself. It's not big deal and you'll see how easy it will work. Your trauma will progressively fade and die

>>77116232
NTA but based
>Yo can I get a job I am on 400mg tren/wk and can do your dirty work.

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Any experiences with clenbuterol?
Any experiences with DHB?
Any experiences with Reta and how it changed (for the better or not) your lipids?

>>77116171
I watch porn and do it while edging
I don't watch porn any other time
Trying to train myself to associate sexual pleasure with steroids

>>77112778
Ipa works. I had my igf1 and gh tested. 4 fold increase on cycle. Not pushing bb levels just want sleep and recovery benefits. Also way cheaper than soma. Lel

>>77117237
I would literally leave my well paid unionized job right this second if an anon near me with a physically demanding shittier job but better hours offered me a guaranteed position. The coal mines are whispering to me.

>>77117134
Not racis’, just don’t like em

>>77117241
DHB is my favorite compound. Good strength gains, good size gains, very dry, minimal effect on e2, great vascularity, mental effects similar to mast, minimal impact on bloods. Basically like a stronger version of primo with some characteristics of mast. The fear mongering about it being harsh on your liver is fake news. I have my own bloods and the bloods of a dozen other guys to back this up. The pip can be real if it wasn’t brewed correctly but most dhb these days is good and this can be mitigated by ED injections and mixing with other compounds. It is not “tren lite” or whatever some claim, just a solid dht-derivative that will actually deliver some gains.
Reta took my ldl from ~110 to 85 in three or four months. Didn’t affect hdl at all as far as I can tell.

>>77117134
They've been psyopping me lately. Every fucking time someone is driving like a retard on the road and I pass them it's always a woman. I'm accustomed to at least a little diversity but it's been nonstop women this past week for some reason.

>>77117639
How much Ipa were you pinning, goddamn. I'm guessing you were taking it with CJC?

>>77118195
I shoot 12floz IPA once in a while to remind myself it sucks ass.

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>>77113755
>>77113774

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I'm thinking about running 25mg of Proviron/day. Perhaps along with Clomid or Tamoxifen. Before I jump shit to T.

Does Proviron really raise libido, improves mood and improve erection quality or is it just a jewish scam?

so whats the deal with the mental sides of tren? is it worth trying it out or should i just avoid it?

>>77112742

So the first cycle is just 500test for 12-20 weeks, right?

What about second cycle? Dianabol? Anavar?

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>>77119331

>>77119331
I think the mental sides are kind of overblown, and thats from someone who 8 days ago was having awful paranoia from it. If you are pushing over 400 or even over 300 it is much more noticeable and crazy. Is it worth it? HELL YES
>>77119588
Babbys first is ya usually 250-500mg test only. Unless you already know what you are doing both in the gym, and you are lean and dieting hard. Then you can add a compound oral or another injectable or higher dose. Generally upping test for second cycle is the choice for beginners so you can manage strictly test side effects and not introduce more test AND another compound.
Dbol has it’s place and I don’t think its for casual second cycle use, Anavar is amazing so I will run it every cycle on top of Test base and Tren.

>>77118062
Great. Thank you!

>>77119094
lots of people say that. i took 100mg ed and didn't notice anything. tried 200mg ed for a month, and also nada. jano report was good too, so don't think it was bunk, unless i got selective scammed, but never heard anything like that about that ugl

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>>77119588
Test base + Nandrolone is the traditional Patrician choice for the second one

>>77119753
Yeah, that's what I've been reading. It works like magic for some people even at the 25mg low dose, but doesn't for others. Thanks lad.

Guess I have to try it for myself.

>>77119588
test + primo depot (2:1) is 100% the cleanest feeling combo and gives a nice cut physique
only side effects are lighter wallet and people calling you a "primosexual" on anonymous message boards

>>77119799
godspeed

>>77114811
Lmao no horns are there, that's just what's left of his hair sticking up

>>77116125
It's just a lack of long term testing and data bruh. we have decades worth of info on test, nothing on sarms. they are also classified as experimental and not yet even approved for human consumption. who knows, maybe you'll be absolutely fine and stay fit as a fiddle in old age. or maybe your organs will explode and you get cancer. there's just no saying yet...
im leaning towards them being more on the dangerous side with all these guys trying these new compounds dropping dead lately. but hey I'm just some homo posting absolute bullshit on a Bosnian basket weaving forum, so feel free to disregard my opinion altogether

>>77120014
Peptides for muscle are cope but stuff like reta or tirz or bpc157 is good for recovery and weight loss.
Just do roids or gh this is why I tell everyone to have clear cut goals on your body before just jumping into injectables.

Will DHT make me taller?

>>77120766
No, hgh + aromatase inhibitor before you get out of puberty otherwise gg

Drugs are good mk

>>77120785
mr. mackey!

>>77120886
I look like this and it's because I don't run Tren.

>>77119792
Nandrolone is dogshit and kills your dick.
>>77119691
>Dbol
Enjoy your tranny tits.
>>77119823
>primo
Shit and expensive compound. Tren clears.

>>77120902
>AHHHHHHH I CANT CONTROL MY E2
kys

>>77120907
You have tranny tits, nigger. kys.

>>77113237
>>77113976
Post physique, you wont.

I stopped taking roids altogether and I actually feel higher test than I ever have before. I think my body got used to having high test and now just makes more naturally

>>77120941
Not that anon but I prefer primo to mast. Mast gives me acne and primo doesn't. Also easier on my lipids.

Currently on week 4 of
200 tren e/ wk
250 test c/ wk
200 primo e/ wk
25mg proviron ed

3iu hgh ed
500hcg eod

Just hit 30, how the fuck does everyone get TRT?

>>77121083
On the internet illegally.

>>77121083
>30
if you need trt at this age its over


anyone have a /fraud/ way of getting rid of what are basically self harm scars? i have two on my leg from jumping over a barbed wire fence years ago and theyre annoying me

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>>77121083
Just hit 33, I brew my own.

>>77121167
>t. zoomer
Own the scars I love my scars from work and play.

>>77121229
true and i do have some that i like but these are just where my shorts end and actually do look like self harm scars and that i probably have more

>>77121243
If you aren’t a feminine twink or a woman it’s a cool story for the huzz, and even then some women show that shit off as a “oh look at me i survived heckin suicidal ideations!!” for attention.

>>77121112
>>77121168
based
>>77121167
back to plebbit to cry about no one showing up to your birthday parties as a child

>>77121083
if you're in the us, there are trt clinics fucking everywhere, and online. or head to google, search for underground lab reviews, find some forums, and start researching good ones. if you find anything that doesnt have a lot of chatter about it, it's a scam. all good ugl's have threads you can easily find with active discussions about their product quality, and other things. most all of them do NOT have websites. you'll either need to email them, or they use telegram/signal/whatsapp. do NOT use a ugl that usesba normie email host, like google/yahoo/whatever. they usually stick to encrypted email services

fuck bros I am getting hot flashes and feel like shit. I guess this is crashed estrogen. I dont have depression or anxiety like a lot of other fags get though at least

>>77120902
>Nandrolone is dogshit and kills your dick.
Deca dick is the stamp for retards that don't know how to use it/ combine it with a DHT for synergy.

>>77120902
Doing 600 test e, 300 npp, 875 hcg, 0.5 caber right now. I'm the horniest I've ever been in my entire life. I've learned several local stable diffusion image generation workflows to generate the gayest, most degenerate furry porn just because my natty twink bf can't keep up with my libido. I have to cum at least 3-4 times per day to have any chance of sleep

>>77120950
Why mix c and e?

>>77121356
lmao this anon is right ngl

>>77121722
IF e2 crashed just take dianabol or TNE

>>77121083
Yeah you don't need fucking TRT at 30. You're probably fine without it till 50, I'm serious. if you feel shitty it's probably just because you're a fat fuck, have a terrible diet or don't train right. likely all three. try getting in shape and you'll feel amazing. no drugs can substitute fitness.
>t. 43 y/o boomer still benching 315, still not on TRT, feel just like I did at 25

>>77121722
get bloodwork TODAY and see where you are at
you might be low e2 because when your e2 is nuked you will have absolutely no doubt in your mind (it is hell on earth)
avoid that hell and get your bloodwork TODAY

>>77120902
>Shit and expensive compound
expensive? sure. shit? never heard anything bad about it from the few people I know who actually took it and aren't just larping on anonymous message boards.
>Tren
on his 2nd cycle? you are either a sadistic asshole or more than likely just a hogwheels clone rp'ing online

>>77122075
He's just a pathetic imbecile zoomer, like 99% of all these redditor tier here spamming about tren

>>77122057
What are typical low E2 symptoms to watch out for?

>>77122244
the only concrete symptoms are drier skin and achy joints
many people experience low libido, irritability, insomnia and depression
I consider 2-10 pg/mL to be low e2
anything less than that is crashed e2 which gives you extreme symptoms to the point where you will think you are dying
if you think you are low now, stop AI,EQ etc for 1 week then get labs. get labs now too if you can afford.

>>77112742
Now this is what a true fag looks like.

>>77122260
Thanks senpai. Seems like I crashed my E2 on Clomid with AI like a retard kek. I will check the bloods.

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>>77122278
>AI with clomid

What in the zoom zoom? You do realize clomid will at best get you to top of normal range, in which case you don't need to bother with AI at all

Fucking zoomers I swear man

>>77122336
He's on clomid. He can't read this

>>77122336
>>77122349
he already went blind from the clomid

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Going to run 250 test 800 deca, for 20wks

Wish me luck boys

Remember when all you nigs were seething at my rad140 cycle, muh liver


Cardarine literally counteracts all the liver and cholesterol issues and I forgot to mention that

It's a psyop to not take these

25mg rad140 12.5mg enclo 15mg ac262 30mg mk677 35mg cardarine .1mg t3

Feels pretty good man ngl, it's literally a psyop to make you stop roiding

>>77122438
But muh heart I can already hear you fags seething 40mg aminotadalafil 35mg cardarine, heart pumps peacefully as fuck, big ass vessels and shiet

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>>77122438
Sounds extremely homosexual
just suck a dick already
why you skirting around the issue with sarms and not quite roids, trying to tell people your gay but not really commit to the gay lifestyle
We know, you know, and you know we know
It's ok bruh, some dudes like dick, you clearly REALLY do
/fraud/ is a place of acceptance and brotherhood
We accept your rampant love of cock, just pin some test and decent roids tho fr
wagmi

>>77122470
Keep coping, growing tits, I'm recomping and my protocol is good for recomping not putting on a ton of estrogenic water

>recomping
>sarms
jfc it keeps getting better

>>77122278
First of all bro, never do clomid. Always enclomiphene. Clomid is enclomiphene + zuclomiphene. Zuclomiphene is highly estrogenic, it's not meant for men. Men taking clomid have gotten horrific permanent side effects like floaters.

Second, on enclomiphene, the actual estrogen number matters much less than the feel. The estrogen being produced is selectively blocked in your body. This means that 40+ pg/ml can be fine, as long as you don't have side effects. If your nipples start burning or itching a lot, you're taking too much enclo and are getting a high estrogen side effect. Same with insomnia.

I got insomnia after 8 months on 12.5mg enclo daily. Went away dropping to 6.25mg daily and my test levels were even higher.

>>77122336
Idk man it's crazy to me how retarded some people are and just start taking random shit without understanding what is going on. Then we gotta come on here and tell them how stupid they are to save them.

>>77121762
Are you retarded?

>>77122438
I'd explain to you how to read the cardarine studies properly and why it was never brought to market

But you're a dumb zoomie, you wouldn't get it anyways

Alright posting again since I was too late in the previous thread

I'm running 250 mg test C + 200 mg tren A
Want to add a DHT compound, mostly for the mental benefits
Would proviron do anything? I've also been considering winny, apparently it's quite underrated if you don't run it too high to prevent joint issues

>>77121762
Dawg its just an ester. Termination half life of c is only 1 more day. Its virtually the same thing. Tldr my source had c in stock so thats what I have.

>>77122414
Goodbye penis

>>77122623
Hes busy speed running cancer

>>77120950
Nice stack, why the proviron?

>>77122628
Winny is harsh on liver and lipids. If you want to run a dht do an injectable like mast or primo

>>77119331
i've been on 15mg/day baby doses and i feel like a different human, insane confidence, low inhib and things feel effortless

two test cycles and a test + primo + var blast didn't come close to feeling this good mentally, it'll probably get worse if i bump it but this is the sweet spot

>>77120950
That's not your physique.

>>77120902
I’ve run NPP up to 700mg and I never once got deca dick. That’s just a boomer meme leftover from back in the day when they would run deca only without a test base. Which would cause them to have no test from test production shutdown, and therefore erectile dysfunction. The thought process was that since deca was a brand new, synthetic hormone made in a lab, it was superior to testosterone and you didn’t even need it. Basically bro science from the 60s. Use a decent dose of test and you will never get deca dick.

>>77122336
>>77122502
I'm 50 and thought the doctor knows his stuff but apparently he didn't.

>>77122502
nta, but where do you get legit Enclo? don't want to buy pajeet or chinese fakes.

>>77122649
Gonna be like 5 weeks at most
I did consider mast too but I wanna keep the DHT dose low, I might just run 100-200 mg though
And I don't feel like primo does shit for me unless running absurdly expensive doses

How does mast compare to winny in terms of mental effectts?

>>77122708
Umbrella labs if you're in the US they have analysis results posted