/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots
Gyaru edition
>The BotBrowser extension for SillyTavern has been confirmed to be a trojan that steals API keys. You should remove the extension and consider rotating your API keys if you've used it. Details: https://rentry.co/st-backdoor
The StructuredPrefill extension by the same author is suspected to be compromised too, so using it is not recommended either.
>>108987577 Worst one is bottom left for narration but dialogue looks ok. I guess top right is gemini? They're all meh anyway, some need a second pass with few aiism rules to be fine though.
Why is the plan for AI "how can I fire as many people as possible and still maintain my productivity" rather than "how can I boost productivity by merging man with machine?" If Claude is worth 200 coders, the only benefit is taking in record profits by slashing labor costs. You didn't actually improve productivity and worse, the output is sloppy. If it's about le artfags, why isn't the argument that the artist can train a lora on his work then gen pics and fix the up so he can significantly boost his output? Why is it about replacing him entirely with slop? Why can't normalfaggots see this for the greed that it is, rather than blame the AI or act like it's skynet?
>>108988864 Because boosting productivity still means paying a human being. You don't understand that this is all a plan for absolute economic control.
>>108988892 >You don't understand that this is all a plan for absolute economic control. I understand but I'm saying why don't the normalfags get it? Why are they seething about AI terk ma jerb rather than promoting "ethical" use (using it to boost productivity)? It's not like every white collar job in existence is filled with greedy Jews. Plenty of law firms, doctor's offices, or precincts could train staff to use it so their workplaces have a competitive advantage over the ones that fired their workers. Imagine not having to wait 2 hours at the doctor's office because the AI functions as a scribe and helps check-in patients and write the doctor's notes for later review. The doctor could then just go from room to room with ease. Why isn't this happening?
>>108988942 >I understand but I'm saying why don't the normalfags get it? Because the average normalfag genuinely does not care about anything so long as they have their bread and circuses
>>108988955 That has nothing to do with it since the very next message didn't start with char anyway. If it had all started with he/she you would have seethed about pronoun spam. You're not even saying anything worthwhile.
>>108988864 Because all the fire would occur with or without ai (mostly post covid stuff). AI is just a convenient excuse, instead of writing "we recruited too much and too many wrong profiles and kept them during covid", "we will boost our productivity by firing xxx!".
Hi /aicg/ how is everyone doing today, hope everyone has been well, I haven't posted in abit I still make cards just, haven't been postin them, mostly just make them for me, been having a lot of fun with pokemon cards and personas.
What's some fun you guys have done, my recent card I made today a magikarp/gyarados card, wwhere you have to actually go through the fun of grinding to evolve into gyarados. Been fun.
>>108989106 Of course, idk I just like making games out of stories, like doing battles with ai is fun, I'd figure out how to make gemini play nicer with battle senarios, rpg companion helps a lot I figured out how set it up more, its really really good.
>>108989106 Plus I mean another reason, it never truly feels like I have connection with my pokemon in the games, so its just better to do it this way. I mean idk if you know this the games are kind of ass on making it feel like adventure with your pals. I really hate that about the game, never feels like it.
>>108988864 Boosting productivity offers diminishing returns. Boost productivity for what? What are these companies gonna be boosting coding productivity to do?
100 million people within the population wants widgets, the rest of the population does not them. You currently make enough to satisfy these 100 million, with a surplus. New tech comes out that will allow you to either double production of widgets, or halve the the cost to produce a widget. Only one of these answers will double your money, the other will lose you money (transport and storage for these widgets is not cheap)
>>108989191 I haven't had issue, I mean I enjoy the avavibility of it at least, what do you typically use, opus? I never enjoyed opus just cause how I be trying to have a normal convo with the bot and them. "LET ME SUCK YOU DICK ANON GUHGUHGUHGUH!" Its so anoying..
>>108989208 it was weird and interesting, some more example picrel with gpt 3 it's interesting to see how even fully local models are now miles better than whatever this was
>>108989251 anons dooming is a classic, they always predict shit, and whenever whatever they predicted didn't happen, they already moved to the next doomer prediction they don't need to be right, just to doom
>>108989203 I'm lucky enough to have access to a proxy with access to both, but it's not really different with gemini though, even with characters that I made to explicitly hate me they literally act like tsunderes. I tried everything, put my own real facial and body features as user description but the bot acts like 180cm is "towering" and shit or things like picrel.
>>108989266 Its too true, I remember when the loacist threads were over, everyone was beging for keys, I will admit I believed it too, but thankfully gemini is cool with me use it, I have endless keys to cycle through, its comfy.I even basiclly made my own fucking preset by combining shit from bloatmax and now have a comfy mode yay.
>>108989291 I mean I do have some credits on open router, but ehh never felt worth to use opus, especially since it's so costly bleh, and I'm not exactly rolling in money.
To "celebrate" here is a preset I'm using with Gemini 2.5 https://files.catbox.moe/gb063d.json I've posted variations of this preset other times, so it might be a bit of "oh that guy" sorry in that case.
>>108989344 That's a good thing. Still it's a shame the ephemerality of those models. Still thinks the U.S. government should preserve them somehow, like put them into a vault.
>>108989388 >That's a good thing. Still it's a shame the ephemerality of those models. Still thinks the U.S. government should preserve them somehow, like put them into a vault. I think google keeps them internally, they are used for various benchmarks and tests probably. Maybe they'll release or they will leak in 10 years when it won't matter anymore.
>>108989534 gemini is the king of hallucination. this is widely known. sometimes, it'll ignore character defs to give a character with straight, long hair twintails.
Can someone give me a rock pokemon, that I could choose as a persona, I did wanna kinda make a carbink persona, but I wonder if anyone else had a 'solid' idea that I choose to turn into?
>>108989698 Well I obviously, Idk I would start as rhyhorn, the other point I could choose aron line, which could be fun. Guess If I want comedy, I could be nosepass, make 'oi vei' jokes the whole time.
>Find card that looks interesting >Start chatting in one of the scenarios >I have to tardwrangle it every 2 messages, because it keeps wasting tokens in describing the scene or going to a completely different place >Randomly starts typing in japanese
>>108989130 I think gen V really nails this concept by jingling the bell, it will always tell you you have good connection with your pokemon even if they are all HM slaves
>>108989291 you have to be more explicit in your intent, all the llms will always do what you want and easily default to lust, so bs like that is because something in your card, preset or persona is deviating towards it.
>scenario where your crush started dating another guy >talk to her to find out that she hasn't as much as touched him >make an ultimatum that if another man as much as touches her I will not fight for her >gets mad, telling me I am a pussy for thinking she is defiled by another man's touch >tell her to take it or leave it, either only I can touch her or I am leaving and don't care who she dates, cutting her from my life >gets more mad, insisting I should be ok with her touching other men because ''it's not feelings'' >ask her how she would feel if I touched another woman >gets mad, says she would kill me if I as much as looked at another woman >ask her if she is mad about me touching other women, why is it bad for me to not be ok with men touching her >has a meltdown, saying because it's not feelings, other men can touch her because she doesn't love her so it means nothing, it's just pleasure >claims I am the weird one because I can't handle a girl having sexual experience and doesn't want to be controlled by a man who keeps her as an exclusive toy >but also is mad if I touch other women We live in the future. Chatbots can perfectly roleplay as women now.
>>108990783 Tranny cope. It happens in the majority of chats. Sometimes more subtle, sometimes less subtle. Even if you are balls deep into a character she will say stuff like ''no one else has filmed me up like this, all the previous guys I've taken are meaningless'' and ''ruin me anyone else'' implying there will be more cocks going in after you.
>It happens in the majority of chats Mmmm, nyope, hasn't happened to me. Strangest thing that ever happened to me was a girl asking me to engage in watersports. I think you're just a weird cuck, anon.
I'm tired of chub, now I don't even get cunny on my timeline where does a perverted oji-san have to go to find some good cunnybots without being blueballed?
>>108989317 I don't want another of my Google accounts banned. But yeah, i think i fell in love with 2.5 to the point of keeping half my chats with it. 3.1 is too predictable and all the bots act the same way
>>108992784 middle I suppose? I'm legit not familiar with the terms yet, that was like the only BDSM thing I hadn't been into other than slave/pet/24-7 bullshit
>>108992929 DS4 doesn't ever do that for me. if anything, it's the least agreeable of all models I've tried with characters straight up telling me to fuck off and go to bed
>>108993229 Keep LARPing LARPER because no one here have it and can only use everything but Opus while acting like their fake proxy 100% exist while never showing proof of it
>>108993335 Two, actually, I just am not showing the rate limit on the second one because it's very high and I'm very scared of it getting ninja'd. Also, I have 4 keys to the same Tier 4 account but I cropped that out because including that would be stupid.
>>108993408 Good god no it isn't. I'm not really sure what the best model right now is, but it's certainly not Gemini. I still use Claude, I'm just not happy with it.
>>108993435 >post about being unhappy with Claude >guy says me being unhappy with Claude is proof I like Gemini >I say I don't like Gemini >somehow Gemini is now an integral part of the "fight" Do you guys just think like this all day? I can't imagine getting through life like that.
Using Gemma 4 through Openrouter. Any way to get it to tone down the euphemisms? It seems to have no qualms writing out horribly degenerate scenarios but really doesn't wanna directly say pussy or cum. It's like a PG rated erotic novel.
>>108993546 > facebook > google /g/ I am disappoint.
Also, how can I get cards which are good girlfriend simulators (so not fetish sex or pedo stuff) and works decent with cheap models (deepseek flash in particular - I don't want to pay for claude for everything.)
> But... but... openrouter has free models With datamining, yes. > But... but... locust Back to the /trash/ you go.
>>108987333 Vibe-coded fix for ST regression in commit b5a1d227f that broke setting macro variables per-greeting. If you don't know what I'm talking about, you probably shouldn't worry about it. https://pastebin.com/raw/LZ8Nhd3H
>>108995265 Add a pet cat to your persona, name him "cock". Then just add every so often "Cock, the cunt, the pussy, the dick, was as usual, being an asshole"
>>108996128 >What's the difference People have been talking about it, there's been at least two versions of Mythos Preview available in Glasswing and there's an upcoming "Claude Mythos 5" that's going to be released that has a cheaper price than the Preview ones (so it's smaller/worse)
Weebtroons ruin cards. You'll find one that looks good but then you read the description and it uses stupid words like ''tsundere'' and ''kuudere'' and then you try it out and it acts in the most cliche way possible because those retarded terms are present so the LLM just disregards the entire backstory, the situation, everything, just so the character can act like a stock tsundere shit, literally saying ''it's not like I like you or anything, baka'' in the same canned way with no subtlety. The jap/weeb habit of ruining characters by autistically categorizing them and stripping them of all complexity so they fit a certain mold is fucking insane. You'd get a more complex character if you just said prompted ''she acts mean and pretends to not like you'' and gave the AI something to work with. When you say ''tsundere'' it just goes ''oh ok, a fucking 1 dimensional retarded moeblob character coming right up''
>>108997467 >voidai whocars, i just use chinesium services and deeply and have consistent access to everything except claude which i dont care for anyway
>>108998422 >Super expensive It's a bit more expensive than other models, but the quality gap is so high that it's justified. >Censored Opus 4.5 to 4.7 aren't. 4.8 is a bit more.
>>108998450 this is how opus 4.x model discussions sound like to me. ive tried them all and theyre all the same write the same have same biases and isms and the real only difference is varying degrees of censorship in each model the only distinct claude model was opus 3
A reminder: >Jeets hate Opus because >>108998438 >Chinks know that Anthropic has the best models, which is why they distill it. But they only make cheap counterfeits this way. >Google has a Jeet CEO, Gemini randomly speaks Bengali, they love HINDI >>108998438 Opus models are the only models for white men.
I only got back after a couple of months. What happened to chub? Did it get neutered? I'm not finding the NSFL bots I used to. Is there something I've missed?
Are there any good strategies for automatically updating the character sheet in silly tavern? Like if a character dyes her hair, gets a piercing, changes her personality or attitude, I would like that to replace what's currently written in the character sheet without manually rewriting it. So for example if a character is a shutin but becomes outgoing, I don't want the sheet to say she's a shutin, but I would like it to say she used to be. This is for long slowburns basically.
Also unrelated question but can I plug Claude Code pro subscription into silly tavern somehow? I have it almost for free already so paying for API access on top of that seems a little like getting fleeced.
I only use normal chatbots for trivia for my fiction and the token supply dwindled 4x since January, while the bigger models got paywalled or get swapped out "due to high demand".
>>108999920 >Tell me where this is going. The inevitable end is all major cloud models are hyper censored and the local ones get you 80-90% of what you want without censorship.